Re: intent to package eql
That's good news. I use eql here and at present have three 56K modems connecting a school to the ISP. The one big problem is that the ISP has three boxes and eql needs to have all modems connected to the same box. This is purely a matter of chance when you dial in to a rotary, so most days I have to be content with two lines connected. So eql is nice but what I really need is Multi Link ppp. I believe that BSD has it and I know that Multisloth has it. Any ideas on how to stir things along for Linux? BTW, I'm in the market for a good connection manager if anyone has one. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lindsay Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perth, Western Australia voice +61 8 9316 248632.0125S 115.8445Evk6lj Debian Unix =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= On Mon, 4 May 1998, Roberto Lumbreras wrote: Hi all. I've noted that debian doesn't have the tool to manage the EQL network device. After a bit of ftping I've found eql-1.2.tar.gz in sunsite.unc.edu, compiled and tested it. Maybe eql is not very used (I used it some years ago and it worked fine!), but anyway it's silly to have EQL support in the kernel without the neccesary tools to use it. Here is my proposed description: Description: load balancing tool for serial network connections The eql_enslave tool allow you to double, triple, quadruple your network bandwidth with multiple point-to-point links. Works with PPP or SLIP. It needs EQL (serial line load balancing) support in the kernel. It was written by Simon Janes [EMAIL PROTECTED], it is GPLed and smallish. If nobody objects I'll package and upload it to unstable, with package name eql, section admin and priority optional. Regards, -- Roberto Lumbreras [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp 143BE391 Lander Internet, Madrid-Spain-UE; http://www.lander.es -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New APT version
On Tue, 5 May 1998, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Tue, 5 May 1998, Joey Hess wrote: This makes me wonder if we should think about dropping autoup as the preferred way to upgrade to hamm, and switch to apt. On the one hand, autoup has been tested pretty thouroghly and we shouldn't risk postponing debian 2.0 to work out bugs in apt. On the other hand, I've never seen autoup as anything but a hack. Apt also lets people accomplish the entire bo - hamm upgrade from inside dselect, which is much cleaner. i agree. if apt can do it and is ready in time for testing then we should certainly drop autoup and use apt instead. autoup *is* just a hack to get around a few deficiencies in dselect/'dpkg -iGROEB'. if it's no longer needed, then throw it awayit served it's purpose for the time it *was* needed. Well, not to belittle auto-up, but has it been kept up with the new bo-hamm elements? yep. Dpkg now depends on libstdc++ for instance. i released a new version to cope with this (and slang dependancies and other stuff) only a week or so ago. i update it as required, and as people inform me that it has problems. As far as bugs in apt go, I have been running a beta for the past month on alot of different machines and system and people. I have monitored about 5 bo upgrades that apt didn't have any problem with (there were package bugs though) if apt can do a complete bo - hamm upgrade without requiring the user to install a few packages by hand then we should use it. The very nice thing about apt is that it is highly deterministic in it's ordering, if you do one upgrade you can be pretty sure that alot of other similar ones will work correctly as well. I tried to do alot to make things happen in a highly predictable and constant order. yes, i really like apt. i've been using it to upgrade my own systems for a few weeks now. it works. i've used 'apt-get upgrade' from the command line, and apt as a dselect access method...i am very impressed with apt's performance. craig -- craig sanders -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hamm
I maintain a hamm mirror at work. According to my records, the traffic to keep hamm up to date amounts to about 20 MB/day. I'm a bit of a newbie with respect to Debian, and I've recently susbcribed to some mailing lists. I'm still reading a lot of FAQ material, but since I saw this thread I couldn't resist to ask: what's the recommended way (program) to keep an updated unstable distribution for a home user? I don't know of any easy way. That 20 MB/day includes some of the files from Incoming (including the ones with 14 in their names, so I get early copies of the installation disks) -- your traffic could be less. I actually maintain three mirrors. The first is a conventional one at work (updated using mirror run from a cron job). The second is a set of 11 zip disks. The third is at home. Each zip disk has a mirror control file at the root with a name like load3. I pop the disk into the zip drive and execute a command like mount /zip; mirror /zip/load*; umount /zip Then I insert the next disk, type upenter to re-execute the same command, and repeat until all the disks are updated. Each disk also has a mirror control file named something like dump3. When I get home, I run mount /zip; mirror /zip/dump*; umount /zip for each disk to update the home mirror. A second way to transfer the updates is to parse the mirror log file and extract the names of the files and symlinks downloaded, and tar up just those files. Parse the log a second time and extract the names of the deleted files. One of these incremental updates should fit on a single zip disk, provided you update at least every two or three days. However, 20Mb/day is not that manageable for me. Since I intend to help testing the base system of unstable Debian, what directories would you suggest to mirror, in order to get a decent updated 'base system'? You can help debug the install disks if you keep current copies of just these files from hamm/hamm/disks-i386/current/: base2_0.tgz drv1440.bin install.bat linux loadlin.exe resc1440.bin root.bin Beyond that, you will have to make your own choices. You could eliminate some traffic by skipping some sections, like hamradio, tex, and x11. - Jim Van Zandt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Intent to package: xfnt-URW gimp-extra-plugins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- The URW fonts are a set that the gimp home page points to as good fonts to use in the gimp. Additionally, in the plugin registry, there are a number of good plugins that are not included in the gimp distribution. I would like to begin working on packaging these. However, I cannot officially upload a maintainer release until I am accepted as a maintainer :). - --- Aaron Van Couwenberghe -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] |--- Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org ftp://ftp.debian.org -\ |- Proud competitor in the race for World Domination ---| Illusion web designs - http://www.sonic.net/~vanco - To be launched by June PGP KeyID: 41119089 UserID: Aaron Van Couwenberghe [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNVH89foZ48BBEZCJAQG3swP/TNBx14rhsO+1eegxfot6jX5qoA9Z2RRW uShOR/ipfjALX9SC49pH6jDLP7toFP19VWfZeDNz1ezDAD4Ea3lV0jguEGsJorn5 Q5VVQ25FxHn6RUL/qcglx/qstOEz3AYokYW92zd3RbiNGqdXgqXK3mgGNTgX9QRO 2il4CELWTYI= =HmES -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Intention to package x11amp
This is my formal announcement of intention to package x11amp, a graphical .mp3 player for X. x11amp is a clone of WinAMP. It's free to redistribute, but no source is available, so it's going into non-free/sound. Its home page is: http://www.x11amp.bz.nu/ One question: x11amp uses the real-time functions of Linux (and sounds much better) if it's installed suid-root, but there are unknown holes that this opens up. Should I use suidmanager and make it suid? Ben -- Brought to you by the letters R and Y and the number 13. I don't want the world.. I just want your half. -- They Might Be Giants Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hamm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 6 May 1998, James R. Van Zandt wrote: I maintain a hamm mirror at work. According to my records, the traffic to keep hamm up to date amounts to about 20 MB/day. I'm a bit of a newbie with respect to Debian, and I've recently susbcribed to some mailing lists. I'm still reading a lot of FAQ material, but since I saw this thread I couldn't resist to ask: what's the recommended way (program) to keep an updated unstable distribution for a home user? I don't know of any easy way. There is an easy way. I do it at home. My personal traffic amounts to about 40 megs a week. (that's a one night update) This can be accomplished easily with apt. If you want it done automatically, here is how you do it: 1) get apt. project/experimental on ftp.debian.org:/pub/debian 2) set up apt's resources. I have included a file sent to me by culus (apt maintainer) that lists all available http resources. 3) create a cron job to get online and run apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade -m (nightly or weekly -- your choice). 4) every time cron runs apt will automatically get every file you need and fix everything in place, without needing any input from you. Personally, I just use the easy method: su root and do it myself. setting up apt's resources: I have attatched the master source list from a while back -- it should still be good enough. however, remember to remove the stable entry -- apt will not update stable correctly. Remeber that having more than two actual servers listed in the sources list... is overkill. And btw -- this should have been on debian-user. I'm forwarding it there now. - --- Aaron Van Couwenberghe -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] |--- Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org ftp://ftp.debian.org -\ |- Proud competitor in the race for World Domination ---| Illusion web designs - http://www.sonic.net/~vanco - To be launched by June PGP KeyID: 41119089 UserID: Aaron Van Couwenberghe [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNVIABfoZ48BBEZCJAQGb1gP+LV2w6GufrYR5QCTML1+IrmRR0mJYi/YD zhUbyi/uoIACqG8MC2Yz7YX+BpaRRzP/s7zmYDsZhjOA+rgu3tsXER+kXZcWBw1T WZSBNfzlEieero35XXtk6CTMAnw7IxXQsXo9WlD+3PoFuuTFI4CHopGK/uIdjENd qlwqv94//w8= =K0b6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- # Tim Sailer [EMAIL PROTECTED] # HTTP 1.0 - roxen deb http://llug.sep.bnl.gov/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://llug.sep.bnl.gov/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb http://llug.sep.bnl.gov/debian frozen main contrib non-free # [EMAIL PROTECTED] deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian frozen main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/binary-i386/ deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/binary-i386/ # deb http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/linux/distributions/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/linux/distributions/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/linux/distributions/debian frozen main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/linux/distributions/debian-non-US stable/binary-i386/ deb http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/linux/distributions/debian-non-US unstable/binary-i386/ # [EMAIL PROTECTED] deb http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/mirrors/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/mirrors/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/mirrors/debian frozen main contrib non-free # [EMAIL PROTECTED] deb http://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/debian frozen main contrib non-free # [EMAIL PROTECTED] deb http://ftp.infomagic.com/pub/mirrors/linux/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.infomagic.com/pub/mirrors/linux/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.infomagic.com/pub/mirrors/linux/debian frozen main contrib non-free # [EMAIL PROTECTED] deb http://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/distributions/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/distributions/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb http://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/distributions/debian frozen main contrib non-free # [EMAIL PROTECTED] deb http://web.rge.com/pub/systems/linux/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://web.rge.com/pub/systems/linux/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb http://web.rge.com/pub/systems/linux/debian frozen main contrib non-free # deb http://ftp1.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://ftp1.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb http://ftp1.us.debian.org/debian frozen main contrib non-free #
corel porting apps to linux
Does anyone know if something official is released? I have only seen the irc transcript on slashdot. John John Lapeyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson,AZ http://www.physics.arizona.edu/~lapeyre -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intention to package x11amp
BG == Ben Gertzfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BG One question: x11amp uses the real-time functions of Linux (and BG sounds much better) if it's installed suid-root, but there are BG unknown holes that this opens up. Should I use suidmanager and BG make it suid? I would say to register it with suidmanager, leave it non-suid by default, and place a notice somewhere that if performance is an issue, it may be made setuid through suidregister. On my K6-200, the CPU time it takes up is pretty negligible, although I understand it may be an issue on lesser machines :) However, since it does not come with source, my opinion is that leaving it suid by default would be irresponsible of us as a distribution, especially since it is not necessary for proper functioning of the program. -Larry -- Larry Daffner| Linux: Unleash the workstation in your PC! [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://web2.airmail.net/vizzie/ One macine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man. --Elbert Hubbard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intent to package: xfnt-URW gimp-extra-plugins
vanco == vanco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: vanco URW fonts are a set that the gimp home page points to as vanco good fonts to use in the gimp. vanco Additionally, in the plugin registry, there are a number of vanco good plugins that are not included in the gimp vanco distribution. Good luck! I'm the current GIMP maintainer, and I know what a pain in the butt those extra plugins are to compile and maintain. Have fun :) -- Brought to you by the letters W and G and the number 5. Porco ga daisuki! -- Fio, Porco Rosso Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intention to package x11amp
Larry == Larry 'Daffy' Daffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Larry I would say to register it with suidmanager, leave it Larry non-suid by default, and place a notice somewhere that if Larry performance is an issue, it may be made setuid through Larry suidregister. On my K6-200, the CPU time it takes up is Larry pretty negligible, although I understand it may be an issue Larry on lesser machines :) Good idea. How exactly should I explain the use of suidmanager in the README, though? -- Brought to you by the letters H and G and the number 10. Disobeying me? No, I don't. -- Final Fantasy II Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intention to package x11amp
BG == Ben Gertzfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Larry == Larry 'Daffy' Daffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Larry I would say to register it with suidmanager, leave it Larry non-suid by default, and place a notice somewhere that if Larry performance is an issue, it may be made setuid through Larry suidregister. On my K6-200, the CPU time it takes up is Larry pretty negligible, although I understand it may be an issue Larry on lesser machines :) BG Good idea. How exactly should I explain the use of suidmanager BG in the README, though? -- Brought to you by the letters H and G BG and the number 10. Disobeying me? No, I don't. -- Final BG Fantasy II Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ BG Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and BG EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. I'd put something like this: Although x11amp is more efficient if made setuid root, doing so has the potential of opening security holes, especially since it is a binary-only package. Thus, it is not installed setuid by default. If you require the additional efficency (for instance, if it skips, or freezes) or you are aware of the security issues and consider the risks acceptable, then you may run the following command to set x11amp to run setuid: suidmanager (insert required options here) -Larry -- Larry Daffner| Linux: Unleash the workstation in your PC! [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://web2.airmail.net/vizzie/ It is important to keep an open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out. --Stephen A. Kallis, Jr. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lilo..
On Wed 29 Apr 1998, Enrique Zanardi wrote: matthew.r.pavlovich.1 wrote: I am getting a quirky bug with lilo. I have a 4gig Wide SCSI drive that is set to scsi id 0. I can partition the disk, write to the disk, read, mount it as /, but I cannot boot from it (The boot flag is set on the first primary partition). I have an adaptec 2940UW controller w/ 2.0.33. Lilo runs correctly, and the light flashes on the drive, but at boot it just hangs..not even a 'Li'. I was wondering if anyone has seen a similar problem with lilo and large drives, or lilo and adaptec 2940's. Lilo works correctly with another hard drive, that is a 2gig and on the narrow bus. I had the same problem some time ago (Adaptec card, I don't remember the model). I solved it by disabling the Extended translation mode for big disks in the adaptec BIOS and adding the linear option to lilo.config. I hope that helps. I still saw problems last weekend with mbr.b not being written to /dev/sda when installing frozen with the 04-11 boot-floppies. I did that by hand dd if=/boot/mbr.b of=/dev/sda bs=444 and after that I could boot from the disk. And yes, I did answer 'y' to the question install a boot block or whatever the exact message is. Note that this only happens on a virgin disk or a disk that otherwise doesn't have any remains of a previous installation on it (e.g. dos; the dos primary bootstrap also works). Paul Slootman -- home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.wurtel.demon.nl | Murphy Software, Enschede, the Netherlands Support Randal Schwartz! See http://www.lightlink.com/fors/ or send empty email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installation report of hamm 26.4.
On Wed 29 Apr 1998, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote: linux did not booted, and when repairing from the boot cdrom, i got : no room in lost+found directory. expand y ? y segmentation fault. Damn, that's still in there? I ran into this problem about 18 months ago, while trying to repair a disk that had a crashed head. This was before I started using debian, BTW. I ended up using e2fsdb (or whatever it's called) to add a couple of blocks to lost+found. I'd have thought that that bug would have been fixed by now. Please report this to the BTS, so that it can get fixed (by the upstream maintainer, I'd assume). I still have the crashed disk, so I could test this if necessary (I copied the readable data to another disk before fsck'ing; amazing how much data you can recover when one of the 15 heads is dead). Paul Slootman -- home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.wurtel.demon.nl | Murphy Software, Enschede, the Netherlands Support Randal Schwartz! See http://www.lightlink.com/fors/ or send empty email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intention to package x11amp
One question: x11amp uses the real-time functions of Linux (and sounds much better) if it's installed suid-root, but there are unknown holes that this opens up. Should I use suidmanager and make it suid? don't make it suid if it works without (mpg123, amp both work well as normal programs), register it with suidmanager without suid bit, and document in README.debian how to make it suid, what advantages this has, and the security risks. maybe also look for buffer overflows or similiar stuff in the source. andreas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intention to package x11amp
Andreas == Andreas Jellinghaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andreas don't make it suid if it works without (mpg123, amp both Andreas work well as normal programs), register it with Andreas suidmanager without suid bit, and document in Andreas README.debian how to make it suid, what advantages this Andreas has, and the security risks. Right, that's what I'm doing. Andreas maybe also look for buffer overflows or similiar stuff in Andreas the source. No source available. :/ -- Brought to you by the letters L and I and the number 12. Frungy! Frungy! Frungy!! -- ZokFotPik, SCII Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intention to package x11amp
Ben Gertzfield wrote: No source available. :/ In the FAQ, though, it says there will be source available sometime. -- see shy jo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lilo..
On Fri, May 08, 1998 at 09:06:32AM +0200, Paul Slootman wrote: I still saw problems last weekend with mbr.b not being written to /dev/sda when installing frozen with the 04-11 boot-floppies. I did that by hand dd if=/boot/mbr.b of=/dev/sda bs=444 and after that I could boot from the disk. And yes, I did answer 'y' to the question install a boot block or whatever the exact message is. Note that this only happens on a virgin disk or a disk that otherwise doesn't have any remains of a previous installation on it (e.g. dos; the dos primary bootstrap also works). The install a boot block dialog takes the opposite action of what one chooses (that is, if you want to install a boot block, answer No). It's a known bug, and has been fixed in boot-floppies_2.0.5 (04-26), still stuck in Incoming. Thanks, -- Enrique Zanardi[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#22206: Some package uses psmisc without a dependency
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 7 May 1998, James Troup wrote: Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyway, since psmisc is not essential (and this is what really matters), it would be interesting to know which package uses killall (if any) and where, to add the appropriate Dependency. Maintainer scripts (and most everything else) should not use killall, killall is Evil[1]. Packages using killall should be fixed not to use it rather than depend on psmisc. [1] URL:http://www.nl.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-devel-9801/msg01205.html Ok, nothing to object. I killall is really evil, perhaps it should be documented in the policy. It is? Thanks. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBNVLLByqK7IlOjMLFAQEw+AP/XfOWTW0oAD/lx0nr17kG7/MHvdtPOPPT DZlfOpkFqFtGorYHQMq1nLPV2H0l/9EWuUPICSKvrXe4j21U1g2gc/3L54PRyHrs pjuGbmXsDgciohFA1ssSZphisriiwMHq9+AVDX9WxWWMzp3CHa4xt9bj748mAyTl 9GVHOMlPbrY= =0AcA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intention to package x11amp
On Thu, May 07, 1998 at 07:37:57PM -0700, Ben Gertzfield wrote: This is my formal announcement of intention to package x11amp, a graphical .mp3 player for X. x11amp is a clone of WinAMP. It's free to redistribute, but no source is available, so it's going into non-free/sound. Its home page is: http://www.x11amp.bz.nu/ One question: x11amp uses the real-time functions of Linux (and sounds much better) if it's installed suid-root, but there are unknown holes that this opens up. Should I use suidmanager and make it suid? There are one or two others who have already signed up for this package: Sami Haahtinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Jens Ritter [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Sami is still in the new-maintainer procedure and has told us that he spoke to the 'already registered maintainer'. I believe he refers to Grimaldi, if not, Grimaldi speak up now. :-) Sami gave us http://www.x11amp.ml.org/ as website for x11amp. I haven't checked if it's the same as above. Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / http://home.pages.de/~joey/ / The only stupid question is the unasked one / pgpuHvDwyN2Tg.pgp Description: PGP signature
magicfilter and /etc
Is there some good reason why all of the printer filters need to be installed in /etc? The magicfilter filters, in particular, make /etc/ much bigger than it might be otherwise. (I understand I can remove that which I don't need; this is a question about the optimum default configuration.) Susan Kleinmann -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: magicfilter and /etc
Is there some good reason why all of the printer filters need to be installed in /etc? The magicfilter filters, in particular, make /etc/ much bigger than it might be otherwise. (I understand I can remove that which I don't need; this is a question about the optimum default configuration.) There are also some other things which really not belong into /etc. For example the Filsystem Hirarchy Standards says that no executable files should go there, but 'filter.ps' and 'filter.pcl' still are executable. In my opinion they should rather go to /usr/lib. -- PGP key via email or finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] New PGP key (RSA DSS) since Jan. 21 1998 ICQ: 2882018 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RSync
One thing though, is there any chance you might consider a pair of new options: --regex-include and --regex-exclude. It shouldn't be too difficult using one of the new regex libraries (pcre comes to mind). possibly. I know the current exclude mechanisms really aren't flexible enough right now so I will redo them sometime. I may include regex as an option. Right now we use fnmatch() to do all the work, which works pretty well for simple cases but isn't really good enough for complex stuff. Anyway, lots of people have told me this is an area that needs improving, I just need some time to do it :-) Cheers, Andrew PS: Thanks for all your comments! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
compile probs, glibc, satlink.c (Planetc Feed)
Hiya. I've a Planetc satfeed and there's a module satlink.c (.o respectively) which doesn't want to compile w/ glibc. No prob with that, I added a -I/usr/i486-linuxlibc1/ to the gcc call and it compiled. I've installed the libc5-altdev beforehand and the libc5 and hopefully this is enough. Now... I've a custom 2.0.33 kernel (not the Debian kernel- source package). I've altered the links from /usr/include/asm/ and /usr/include/linux/, of course. I'm compiling it and whenever I try to insmod satlink.o it tells me it was compiled for 2.0.32 and that doesn't match the actual kernel. I've that module version information thing switched on in the kernel (which should help, since it says it allows me to use modules compiled for another kernel version). Now... what did I do wrong? Any help is appreciated... Thanks a lot, Alexander -- SGH Internet Division Alexander Koch, Administration Waldstr. 36, 30163 Hannover eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefon: +49 511 391088, Fax +49 511 391307, http://www.sgh-net.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: compile probs, glibc, satlink.c (Planetc Feed)
On Fri, May 08, 1998 at 04:03:46PM +0200, Alexander Koch wrote: I've a Planetc satfeed and there's a module satlink.c (.o respectively) which doesn't want to compile w/ glibc. No prob with that, I added a -I/usr/i486-linuxlibc1/ to the gcc call and it compiled. The recommended way of compiling libc5 binaries on hamm is to use altgcc and ensure that /usr/i486-linuxlibc1/bin is in the PATH before the regular bin directories. I've installed the libc5-altdev beforehand and the libc5 and hopefully this is enough. Now... I've a custom 2.0.33 kernel (not the Debian kernel- source package). I've altered the links from /usr/include/asm/ and /usr/include/linux/, of course. I'm compiling it and whenever I try to insmod satlink.o it tells me it was compiled for 2.0.32 That's because libc5-altdev comes with its own set of kernel headers from 2.0.32. and that doesn't match the actual kernel. I've that module version information thing switched on in the kernel (which should help, since it says it allows me to use modules compiled for another kernel version). Now... what did I do wrong? You didn't use the -f option to insmod: -f Attempt load the module even if the version of the running kernel and the version of the kernel for which the module was compiled do not match. HTH, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
libg++ in hamm?
I am wondering that there is no libg++ in hamm compatible with egcs. I know, that a lot of things moved to libstdc++, but for me things like the Integer class are still useful. Has somebody a libg++ debian package? Thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Intent to package doc-debian-es
Hi everyone, I have translated today the New Maintainer HOWTO to Spanish and am willing to translate some other important debian documentation to Spanish making it, thus, more accesible to spanish developers. I intend to package it as doc-debian-es. Just a thought: it might be not that polished and now it would only contain that HOWTO (I will translate Debian FAQ, Debian Policy ... also) but I would like it to go into hamm/frozen. It is only a package with sgml+ps+txt+html in it so even if it is a new package it won't compromise nothing serious. Any thoughts? Could it be considered? Saludos Javi pgpUJIriiql84.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Intent to package doc-debian-es
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- The doc-debian-es package is already in alpha stage, and contains the Debian FAQ. Please see: http://master.debian.org/~sanvila If you are interested in translation issues, please subscribe to the debian-l10n-spanish mailing list. BTW: I need people to read the *english* FAQ (doc-debian package) and report *any* inaccuracies. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBNVMfPSqK7IlOjMLFAQFlPAP7BfIeONMdCgpgVJFBbXj8JfJmD5Bs/l98 9ZaPBS5jYoLeGg9PYYHcxpCqdaeJhWGIQd5c3nAZTq1aOECRn/P3t0AX/DPFY1E1 sLjRNVKEEPYvAmHLv6xId+H/FE2JwIu7rM1aQkrnDEM2r+htcsIcQxmghqw6rtQA 9N9BUi0YAqY= =sAdi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libg++ in hamm?
On Fri, May 08, 1998 at 04:28:09PM +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote: I am wondering that there is no libg++ in hamm compatible with egcs. I know, that a lot of things moved to libstdc++, but for me things like the Integer class are still useful. Has somebody a libg++ debian package? I'm working on one currently; hopefully it'll be ready this weekend. HTH, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Lilo..
I had similar problems with Windows NT and large drives on 2940UW controllers. The problem appeared to be the wide bus mode setting ( I forget the exact wording in the adaptec setup). If I changed the setting, the machine would not boot from the drive until I either low level formatted the drive or changed the setting back. I eventually took to setting all the options to default, then enabling the ultra mode, then installing the OS and not touching the card setup again. There were four of us working on those machines, so the simpler we made the setup the less we had to remember and document. Pat -Original Message- From: Paul Slootman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 08, 1998 3:07 AM To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Lilo.. On Wed 29 Apr 1998, Enrique Zanardi wrote: matthew.r.pavlovich.1 wrote: I am getting a quirky bug with lilo. I have a 4gig Wide SCSI drive that is set to scsi id 0. I can partition the disk, write to the disk, read, mount it as /, but I cannot boot from it (The boot flag is set on the first primary partition). I have an adaptec 2940UW controller w/ 2.0.33. Lilo runs correctly, and the light flashes on the drive, but at boot it just hangs..not even a 'Li'. I was wondering if anyone has seen a similar problem with lilo and large drives, or lilo and adaptec 2940's. Lilo works correctly with another hard drive, that is a 2gig and on the narrow bus. I had the same problem some time ago (Adaptec card, I don't remember the model). I solved it by disabling the Extended translation mode for big disks in the adaptec BIOS and adding the linear option to lilo.config. I hope that helps. I still saw problems last weekend with mbr.b not being written to /dev/sda when installing frozen with the 04-11 boot-floppies. I did that by hand dd if=/boot/mbr.b of=/dev/sda bs=444 and after that I could boot from the disk. And yes, I did answer 'y' to the question install a boot block or whatever the exact message is. Note that this only happens on a virgin disk or a disk that otherwise doesn't have any remains of a previous installation on it (e.g. dos; the dos primary bootstrap also works). Paul Slootman -- home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.wurtel.demon.nl | Murphy Software, Enschede, the Netherlands Support Randal Schwartz! See http://www.lightlink.com/fors/ or send empty email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: official brand for cdroms
maybe the term offical for cdroms be used, if someone sells a set of cdroms, constisting of the official cdroms and an extra cd with things like debian-non-US, debian-non-free (those parts that are allowed to be burned and sold), and other stuff like 2.0 + 2.1 kernel source, netscape, mozilla, kde ... ? does anyone know how dselect can handle installing packages from several cd's ? 1) I also think that such CDs are desirable. Is there somewhere such a collection ? 2) direct invokation of dpkg could always be used to overcome dselect limitations (or my lack of knowledage on how to use dselect). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intention to package x11amp
On Fri, May 08, 1998 at 12:10:56PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: On Thu, May 07, 1998 at 07:37:57PM -0700, Ben Gertzfield wrote: This is my formal announcement of intention to package x11amp, a graphical .mp3 player for X. x11amp is a clone of WinAMP. It's free to redistribute, but no source is available, so it's going into non-free/sound. Its home page is: http://www.x11amp.bz.nu/ One question: x11amp uses the real-time functions of Linux (and sounds much better) if it's installed suid-root, but there are unknown holes that this opens up. Should I use suidmanager and make it suid? There are one or two others who have already signed up for this package: Sami Haahtinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Jens Ritter [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Sami is still in the new-maintainer procedure and has told us that he spoke to the 'already registered maintainer'. I believe he refers to Grimaldi, if not, Grimaldi speak up now. :-) Grimaldi (Jens Ritter) is on vacation and is back at 20.05.1998. Grisu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: magicfilter and /etc
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: Is there some good reason why all of the printer filters need to be installed in /etc? The magicfilter filters, in particular, make /etc/ much bigger than it might be otherwise. (I understand I can remove that which I don't need; this is a question about the optimum default configuration.) There are also some other things which really not belong into /etc. For example the Filsystem Hirarchy Standards says that no executable files should go there, but 'filter.ps' and 'filter.pcl' still are executable. In my opinion they should rather go to /usr/lib. second. if i want to change them, i will copy the file to /etc/magicfilter, edit it, and change my printcap to call the new version. someoen should file a bug report, or better write a patch... andreas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ../dists/slink/main/binary-i386/Packages is empty
Douglas Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I notice that the Packages file for slink/main/binary-i386 on master is empty ... To follow up on my own post - this was reported as bug #21025. In the bug report the date on the file was Apr 2. Now it is Apr 24 but it is still zero length. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: reopen 20587 Bug#20587: There's no current libg++ package Bug#21253: gperf can't be installed with libstdc++ Bug reopened, originator not changed. severity 20587 normal Bug#20587: There's no current libg++ package Bug#21253: gperf can't be installed with libstdc++ Severity set to `normal'. retitle 20587 Fixed in NMU: There's no current libg++ package Bug#20587: There's no current libg++ package Changed bug title. thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Ian Jackson (administrator, Debian bugs database) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: on forming a new Linux Distributionx
Rev. Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 06:55:43PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: You think nobody is going to try and snatch it then? Er.. how do you snatch an expired patent? Reregistration? Prior art Since there is documentary evidence that the particular idea existed at least for 20 years (it was a patent, no less), how can someone else come along and claim it as a new invention? - Hari -- Raja R Harinath -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] When all else fails, read the instructions. -- Cahn's Axiom Our policy is, when in doubt, do the right thing. -- Roy L Ash -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: corel porting apps to linux
G John Lapeyre wrote: Does anyone know if something official is released? I have only seen the irc transcript on slashdot. I was at the meeting last night when they announced the netwinder. They said all the tools to develop on the Netwinder were GPL'ed and will be released soon. They didn't give a schedule, but since they were talking about a matter of weeks before Netwinders would be available to developpers, I suspect that the developping tools will be coming soon too. Very cool. Behan -- Behan Webster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-613-224-7547 http://www.verisim.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Predepends query
I've just been testing the new version of dpkg-mountable -- nothing exciting, I'm afraid -- using a large set of packages to install, and I've hit a small problem. perl-base was predepended on by something, which caused it (using the usually-disabled predepends support) to remove perl. This broke dpkg-mountable, and I had to install perl by hand. Now, for me, this was trivial, as I knew exactly what needed to be done. The question is, what about other users? And more specifically, should I make dpkg-mountable predepend on perl? This would have the advantage that, so far as I can tell, the installation shouldn't break like this in future (although I have a fuzzy memory of a bug in dpkg which might actually allow this). On the other hand, it's another predepends, and I'm not really sure whether dpkg would handle this situation well anyway. I guess it comes down to: does breaking dpkg-mountable count as stopping the system functioning? Comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Andy -- Andy Mortimer, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.poboxes.com/andy.mortimer PGP public key available on key servers -- I only smile in the dark, My only comfort is the night gone black. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intention to package x11amp
Martin == Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin There are one or two others who have already signed up for Martin this package: Sami Haahtinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Jens Martin Ritter [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Sami is still in the Martin new-maintainer procedure and has told us that he spoke to Martin the 'already registered maintainer'. I believe he refers Martin to Grimaldi, if not, Grimaldi speak up now. :-) I'll wait then. I was talking to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about this, and whipped up some packages for the new version. They're done, but I won't upload them until Jens or Sami gets back to me. Martin Sami gave us http://www.x11amp.ml.org/ as website for Martin x11amp. I haven't checked if it's the same as above. It's been moved to http://www.x11amp.bz.nu/ now. -- Brought to you by the letters V and Y and the number 8. O, Mentos Boy! -- Guppy Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ../dists/slink/main/binary-i386/Packages is empty
Douglas == Douglas Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Douglas To follow up on my own post - this was reported as bug Douglas #21025. In the bug report the date on the file was Apr 2. Douglas Now it is Apr 24 but it is still zero length. In case I haven't mentioned it enough, the Packages files for slink are rebuilt correctly locally at ftp1.us.debian.org. The URL for apt upgrades is http://ftp1.us.debian.org/debian/. Incidentially slink doesn't have overrides files either - PGP E4 70 6E 59 80 6A F5 78 63 32 BC FB 7A 08 53 4C __ _Debian GNU Johnie Ingram [EMAIL PROTECTED] mm mm / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __netgod irc.debian.org mm mm / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / m m m / /__| | | | | |_| |Those who do not understand UNIX mm mm \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ are doomed to repeat it, poorly. GO BLUE -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uploaded uae 0.7.3b-1 (source i386) to chiark
On Fri, 8 May 1998, Fredrik Hallenberg wrote: -BEGIN PGP DECRYPTED MESSAGE- Format: 1.5 Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 19:46:44 +0200 Source: uae Binary: uae Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.7.3b-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Fredrik Hallenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: uae- Amiga Emulator Changes: uae (0.7.3b-1) unstable; urgency=low . * New upstream version. Files: be5aac3e0ee1fdfa6e498f94d062ad5a 614 otherosfs optional uae_0.7.3b-1.dsc 651a2cfc2b8361a4843493f953e7ad99 644759 otherosfs optional uae_0.7.3b.orig.tar.gz 71128894e71db62248c7fc7df354c442 45578 otherosfs optional uae_0.7.3b-1.diff.gz 862d20ffd99be669eab7b96491348675 303110 otherosfs optional uae_0.7.3b-1_i386.deb -- Good signature from user Fredrik Hallenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Key is not certified with a trusted signature. -END PGP DECRYPTED MESSAGE- I am the maintainer of uae (i.e., I have been in the wnpp for uae for a long time (afaik I am still listed there), and I recently uploaded good versions of uae-2.7.2 (to unstable only, just like you)). Please let me know what made you package it, and lets fix that (I don't intend to drop the package, though). Thank you, --Stephan o-o |Stephan Alexander Suerken [EMAIL PROTECTED] | +-+---+ | Voice: (+49) (6241) 92566-2 | Use | | WWW : http://www.fh-worms.de/~suerken | Debian GNU/Linux! | +-+ Visit| | Debian-related mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.debian.org. | o-o -- Note: When using reply with your mail reader, please check that the mail address matches one of those given above (some mailers might not recognize the Reply-to:-field but instead use the From:-field for replies, which is not necessarily correct). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
