Release-critical Bugreport for December 22, 2000
Bug stamp-out list for Dec 22 05:15 (CST) Total number of release-critical bugs: 485 Number that will disappear after removing packages marked [REMOVE]: 0 -- Package: afbackup (debian/main) Maintainer: Christian Meder [EMAIL PROTECTED] 77189 afbackup: cartis cannot detect which is the server config file Package: afterstep (debian/main) Maintainer: Steven R. Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] 69297 afterstep: Pager causes wharf to go wonky 75330 afterstep: Please merge changes from potato version (patch available). Package: aolserver (debian/main) Maintainer: Brent A. Fulgham [EMAIL PROTECTED] 77783 SECURITY: buffer overrun potential in Ns_DStringPrintf() call Package: apache (debian/main) Maintainer: Johnie Ingram [EMAIL PROTECTED] 72468 apache: log file permissions are insecure 75087 cron.daily for apache sends SIGHUP to any process with 75941 jserv: configuring jserv kills libapache-mod-ssl 77621 Assertion `new_opencount[0] == 0' failed 78527 Apache 1.3.12-2.2 returns no data (at least when calling http://localhost/) 79256 apache should include mod_mime module 79301 Apache's mod_auth_db insists existent and world readable file does not exist 79364 apache build on potato breaks woody php4 (DB2 and pgsql) 80210 Needs a recompile against new libc6 (again) Package: apache-common (debian/main) Maintainer: Johnie Ingram [EMAIL PROTECTED] 73004 apache-common: undefined symbol shm_ something 73013 Security vulnerability in Apache mod_rewrite (fwd) 74306 apache-common: Incorrect mysql return results Package: apache-perl (debian/main) Maintainer: Daniel Jacobowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 70472 AddDefaultCharset problem 77893 libapache-dbi-perl: @INC problems when starting apache with module AuthDBI 78676 Apache in woody is now 1.3.14, apache-perl needs to be re-compiled Package: apcupsd (debian/main) Maintainer: Martin Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 74060 apcupsd: apcupsd doesn't take any action on powerfail Package: apt (debian/main) Maintainer: APT Development Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] 78712 apt: problem resolver refuses to deinstall obsolete packages Package: aptitude (debian/main) Maintainer: Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] 80183 aptitude_0.0.7.14-1(unstable): error in build dependencies Package: arpwatch (debian/main) Maintainer: KELEMEN Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 78228 arpwatch: On upgrade /var/lib/arpwatch/arp.dat is cleared Package: aspell (debian/main) Maintainer: Sudhakar Chandrasekharan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 78986 aspell dies, seemingly due to too many Ignores Package: autofs (debian/main) Maintainer: Adam Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] 75909 [PATCH] autofs needs a patch for building on Alpha and sparc Package: autolog (debian/main) Maintainer: Nicolás Lichtmaier [EMAIL PROTECTED] 73051 autolog: autolog creates endless zombies after upgrade to libc6-2.1.94 Package: barracuda (debian/main) Maintainer: Arpad Magosanyi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 79646 Database code errors during installation. Package: base-config (debian/main) Maintainer: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] 77920 passwords entered in base-config are not treated literally 79336 base-config bug Package: base-passwd (debian/main) Maintainer: Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 52065 [hurd] does not compile 69819 base-passwd: update-passwd fails when a group has too many members Package: bbdb (debian/main) Maintainer: Takuo KITAME [EMAIL PROTECTED] 78564 bbdb breaks gnus Package: binutils (debian/main) Maintainer: Christopher C. Chimelis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 74396 binutils_2.10.0.27-0.cvs2923.1(unstable): serious malfunction on m68k 78562 binutils: Strip corrupts static libraries if given the wrong kind of pathname Package: bock (debian/main) Maintainer: Charles Briscoe-Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] 70903 bock is not installable Package: bugs.debian.org (pseudo) Maintainer: Darren O. Benham and others [EMAIL PROTECTED] 69406 static BTS HTML pages not being updated Package: cdrdao (debian/main) Maintainer: Martin Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 77255 cdrdao: gcdmaster doesn't work (properly or otherwise) Package: cdrecord (debian/main) Maintainer: Erik Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 79353 postinst checks for wrong filetype Package: chimera (debian/non-free) Maintainer: Debian QA Group debian-qa@lists.debian.org 76234 [do not fix, package being removed] segmentation fault with new xlibs Package: chpp (debian/main) Maintainer: Darren Benham [EMAIL PROTECTED] 65780 chpp not installable Package: clisp (debian/main) Maintainer: Kevin Dalley [EMAIL PROTECTED] 62116 clisp_2000-03-06-1(unstable): m68k build error [woody] Package: cocoon (debian/contrib) Maintainer: Julio Maia [EMAIL PROTECTED] 71142 ajp12: Servlet Error: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/jtauber/fop/Version: com/jtauber/fop/Version Package: colorgcc (debian/main) Maintainer: Raphael Bossek [EMAIL PROTECTED] 75789
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Uploaded cmatrix 1.1b-3 (m68k) to erlangen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 05:25:06 -0700 Source: cmatrix Binary: cmatrix Architecture: m68k Version: 1.1b-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian/m68k Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Edward Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: cmatrix- Console Matrix simulates the display from The Matrix Closes: 79879 Changes: cmatrix (1.1b-3) unstable; urgency=low . * Added Depends on xutils because postinst uses mkfontdir (closes: Bug#79879) Files: 91c3f37e8f500e89ec97f4a44d4985b9 20330 misc optional cmatrix_1.1b-3_m68k.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.5 and Gnu Privacy Guard http://www.gnupg.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAjpDPkIACgkQcS3JWD3FdvcNeACeL3N3wr9xXWAkaAg/TmmBZfeS bpoAnRhqYd1FnxzrqYuMDOcZsyWGhMhG =wywk -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Uploaded black-box 1.4-1 (m68k) to erlangen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:59:06 +0100 Source: black-box Binary: black-box Architecture: m68k Version: 1.4-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian/m68k Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: black-box - Find the crystals Changes: black-box (1.4-1) unstable; urgency=low . * New upstream release. * Changed the build dependency from libsdl-mixer-dev to libsdl-mixer1.1-dev. * Added a build dependency on libsdl-image1.1-dev. * Removed no longer needed build dependencies on libgpmg1-dev, libncurses5-dev and slang1-dev. * Remove all Makefile.in in the clean target of debian/rules Files: 9599c3d0932ba749709133c94e58fed0 233610 games optional black-box_1.4-1_m68k.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.5 and Gnu Privacy Guard http://www.gnupg.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAjpDPfQACgkQcS3JWD3FdvdeOQCfU7P2bpvfQSdbCXRvIZm3BbzB BoYAn2On0OwLEWfCHC+n0w/p0UfL2O+g =9H8T -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Uploaded tidy 20000804-1 (m68k) to erlangen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 04:25:16 +0100 Source: tidy Binary: tidy Architecture: m68k Version: 2804-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian/m68k Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Matej Vela [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: tidy - HTML syntax checker and reformatter Closes: 79626 Changes: tidy (2804-1) unstable; urgency=low . * New upstream version. Closes: Bug#79626. * Conforms to Standards version 3.2.1: * debian/rules: Supports `debug' and `nostrip' build options. * debian/control: No longer suggests lynx because it doesn't seem relevant. (Feel free to contact me if you disagree.) Files: a55ed1b650d4207bafd789da6cee9805 103126 web optional tidy_2804-1_m68k.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.5 and Gnu Privacy Guard http://www.gnupg.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAjpDPbkACgkQcS3JWD3Fdvd0mwCeLR4yMo+jJdZW7QNri27H7eXx B7MAnAsFtynmi1fR1HXXCfHzkrVpYOjT =pSes -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Uploaded sgrep 1.92a-4 (m68k) to erlangen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:22:19 -0600 Source: sgrep Binary: sgrep Architecture: m68k Version: 1.92a-4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian/m68k Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Jim Studt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: sgrep - a tool to search a file for structured pattern Changes: sgrep (1.92a-4) unstable; urgency=low . * [EMAIL PROTECTED] takes over package. * Fix parser to handle backslashed quotation marks in patterns. (closes Bug#79495) (closes Bug#69450) * Add a Depends: m4. Not strictly true, its possible to avoid it, but I suspect its true for nearly everyone. (close Bug#76296) Files: f17df035f906c9ba25a8e79e17d515ad 83088 text optional sgrep_1.92a-4_m68k.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.5 and Gnu Privacy Guard http://www.gnupg.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAjpDPa8ACgkQcS3JWD3FdvfI8ACfZsLFcujYeC5qXv1VV/d4cp6Q y/oAn39h9QbhmalD6Jg+dX8m3LoE8RoN =Y8CB -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Uploaded tar 1.13.18-1 (sparc) to ftp-master
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:09:44 -0700 Source: tar Binary: tar Architecture: sparc Version: 1.13.18-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Bdale Garbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: tar- GNU tar Closes: 51889 57436 58171 64279 Changes: tar (1.13.18-1) unstable; urgency=low . * new upstream version, closes: #57436, #51889 * add suggestion for bzip2, closes: #64279 * this package is pristine upstream source plus the debian/ directory, so there should be no issues compiling on any platform, closes: #58171 Files: 444d1a79d17b2b5fe1e27bf07e1fb6bf 441174 base required tar_1.13.18-1_sparc.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] iD8DBQE6Q3szfNc/ZB4E7C0RAuWbAJ9j6f5ugXrqxQuo5EsopMV4OxIvegCgrlpQ B4h94THXEeAhYXamxhm4aPQ= =hHE9 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Uploaded update 2.11-2 (sparc) to ftp-master
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 19:01:38 -0600 Source: update Binary: update Architecture: sparc Version: 2.11-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Roland Bauerschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: update - daemon to periodically flush filesystem buffers. Changes: update (2.11-2) unstable; urgency=low . * Non Maintainer Upload * /usr/man /usr/share/man * /usr/doc /usr/share/doc * Maintainer Field set to Debian QA * dpkg-gencontrol will be invoked with -isp now Files: e2d868dc466a61500b8514966637550d 8504 base required update_2.11-2_sparc.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] iD8DBQE6Q3s1fNc/ZB4E7C0RAqr1AKDHZCiS/DSDnyjBBpyZKAU8b0LeqgCeNjEF mcGR/NT8SNeB+dunxynulVk= =1IiW -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Uploaded bsdmainutils 5.20001028-5 (sparc) to ftp-master
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 21:24:32 +0100 Source: bsdmainutils Binary: bsdmainutils Architecture: sparc Version: 5.20001028-5 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: bsdmainutils - More utilities from FreeBSD. Closes: 78224 78873 79128 79219 Changes: bsdmainutils (5.20001028-5) unstable; urgency=low . * Removed debconf invocation in postinst (Closes: #79128). * Fixed some entries in calendar.music (Closes: #79219). * Added Japanese and Croatian holidays (Closes: #78224, #78873). Files: 5ce92ed6d71e78aa160ee1c88c7ed43c 141500 utils important bsdmainutils_5.20001028-5_sparc.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] iD8DBQE6Q3s3fNc/ZB4E7C0RArvBAJ4qNKkajIarNq/Hvv+yc3JP6zd4rgCgmWGG 99FmXodcuxQ6+Fedqf4+ygg= =20uo -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Uploaded kdelibs 2.1-20001218-2 (all sparc) to ftp-master
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 12:22:00 -0700 Source: kdelibs Binary: libarts-dev kdelibs3 kdelibs3-dev kdelibs3-doc libarts Architecture: all sparc Version: 4:2.1-20001218-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: kdelibs3 - KDE core libraries (runtime files) kdelibs3-dev - KDE core libraries (development files) kdelibs3-doc - KDE core library documentation libarts- aRts Sound system libarts-dev - aRts Sound system (development files) Changes: kdelibs (4:2.1-20001218-2) unstable; urgency=low . * more upstream bug fixes Files: 68c51a6cdf43f248f12a644b19244ded 4923382 libs optional kdelibs3_2.1-20001218-2_sparc.deb b0c6e61e3c0aa14c1a6ce99e4df34d42 562630 libs optional libarts_2.1-20001218-2_sparc.deb 3cb38d923f053930b7959ff95e6021fa 69648 devel optional libarts-dev_2.1-20001218-2_sparc.deb 18a8342ddd41e5d262619aa3f0061a82 579348 devel optional kdelibs3-dev_2.1-20001218-2_sparc.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] iD8DBQE6Q5xTfNc/ZB4E7C0RAgLuAKCPP14ucMwRp7qCwEBf3gPyHyMthQCfean5 mCfYQ99FF/32vch9KnByVZA= =HvqS -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Uploaded libmcal 0.6-7 (sparc) to ftp-master
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 12:48:30 +0100 Source: libmcal Binary: libmcal0-dev libmcal libmcal0 Architecture: sparc Version: 0.6-7 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Ola Lundqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: libmcal0 - Shared mcal libraries. libmcal0-dev - Development library for mcal support. Changes: libmcal (0.6-7) unstable; urgency=low . * Fixing maintainer field. * Fixing permissions for /var/lib/mstore * Creating a empty (touch) /etc/mpasswd file at installation. Files: 6a7c21034563520b23df4abfbe659611 27122 devel optional libmcal0_0.6-7_sparc.deb d2c1c286a308081d768cd4431c3f2355 36578 devel optional libmcal0-dev_0.6-7_sparc.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] iD8DBQE6Q59jfNc/ZB4E7C0RAmFSAKCgx7zG27r3CHrWGXRWV5WHu+LsWgCfbE4U ArGcMCtNltuCLExrKkHdIuQ= =U/K6 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Uploaded qt2.2 2.2.3-3 (sparc all) to ftp-master
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 01:13:00 -0700 Source: qt2.2 Binary: qt2.2-doc libqt2.2-dev libqt2.2-mt-dev libqt2.2-mt libqt2.2 libqt2.2-gl Architecture: sparc all Version: 2:2.2.3-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: libqt2.2 - Qt GUI Library (runtime version). libqt2.2-dev - Qt GUI development headers, static libraries libqt2.2-gl - Qt GUI Library (Open GL Version). libqt2.2-mt - Qt GUI Library (runtime threaded version). libqt2.2-mt-dev - Qt GUI development headers, static libraries (Threaded version) qt2.2-doc - Tutorial and reference documentation and examples for Qt. Closes: 79876 Changes: qt2.2 (2:2.2.3-3) unstable; urgency=low . * Applying Anti-Aliasing patch * Adjusting Build-Depends as we now must have the latest X4 * Adding libfreetyp6-dev to Build-Depends * Fixing document links (Closes: #79876) * New i18n patch update for qpsprinter Files: 3be3954ea83791e5cd67fc76f6a61076 1981152 libs optional libqt2.2_2.2.3-3_sparc.deb afa26a6876fef11e7c40560c988712f9 1985202 libs optional libqt2.2-gl_2.2.3-3_sparc.deb e27577440ccf11adc778ed7841654734 1964434 libs optional libqt2.2-mt_2.2.3-3_sparc.deb 81e00ff4ec63a523fc2c020b1edd9001 2629042 devel optional libqt2.2-mt-dev_2.2.3-3_sparc.deb 3f95f823e7f7e1be376e11dd91ed1a19 3604120 devel optional libqt2.2-dev_2.2.3-3_sparc.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] iD8DBQE6Q80qfNc/ZB4E7C0RAkx8AJ9s7D5OOLP8YqljoY4pdMe5gJqGfACgm+Kr CnQwnltyXVzKqq0wuRU1ZMs= =V0tZ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Uploaded ami 1.0.8-1 (sparc) to ftp-master
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 18:32:23 +0900 Source: ami Binary: ami ami-gnome Architecture: sparc Version: 1.0.8-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Changwoo Ryu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: ami- An X input method server for Korean text input ami-gnome - An X input method server for Korean text input (GNOME applet) Changes: ami (1.0.8-1) unstable; urgency=low . * New upstream release Files: f1e9651f9f7ab06ee9a84dd6b46bc072 370554 x11 optional ami_1.0.8-1_sparc.deb 2d8277084c03c8df75075701033e13d3 169702 x11 optional ami-gnome_1.0.8-1_sparc.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] iD8DBQE6RA2UfNc/ZB4E7C0RArVEAKCfUO0uvidTRdrjAZ7K73mZc7tBowCdE1Z2 PLR8jarHJhU6EXNk5G7MUaA= =HSZJ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Uploaded kdegraphics 2.1-20001218-1 (sparc) to ftp-master
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 23:50:00 -0700 Source: kdegraphics Binary: kpixmap2bitmap kghostview ksnapshot kfract libminimagick-dev pixie kview libminimagick5 Architecture: sparc Version: 4:2.1-20001218-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: kfract - fractal generator for KDE kghostview - PostScript viewer for KDE. kpixmap2bitmap - pixmap to bitmap conversion tool ksnapshot - Screenshot application for KDE kview - A simple image viewer/converter for KDE. libminimagick-dev - KDE graphics libraries (development files) libminimagick5 - Mini version of ImageMagick for use with KDE pixie - Image Management System for KDE Changes: kdegraphics (4:2.1-20001218-1) unstable; urgency=low . * More upstream fixes * Adding in missing conflicts for kdegraphics Files: 5b07c19dd76600e39813dfad3b5c7b18 282628 graphics optional kfract_2.1-20001218-1_sparc.deb 871f169b3336d346549d79540bba4762 130416 graphics optional kghostview_2.1-20001218-1_sparc.deb a35c0492711cf2abb30fd94b79d0d99d 49574 graphics optional ksnapshot_2.1-20001218-1_sparc.deb 03de8aab468239bdd4e99e3bbebb0895 37730 graphics optional kpixmap2bitmap_2.1-20001218-1_sparc.deb d0b50c9842d07908e6a84504c781396b 486036 graphics optional kview_2.1-20001218-1_sparc.deb 71959fa7fafcedb22cd323c6aa54c623 256304 graphics optional pixie_2.1-20001218-1_sparc.deb 1ed1c7581e7f48d0c823e887ef48e7a9 147028 libs optional libminimagick5_2.1-20001218-1_sparc.deb 5f9bb941aa926d6fd44cec4ed8a17ffb 5108 devel optional libminimagick-dev_2.1-20001218-1_sparc.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] iD8DBQE6Q+8lfNc/ZB4E7C0RAhEnAKDDXRwwjTpxu7HveYPc1Nf4jofHbACffI3z CWfhKjdsDIxzqBkq9TJNsCk= =75dX -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Uploaded imagemagick 5.2.6-3 (sparc) to ftp-master
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 10:27:58 +0900 Source: imagemagick Binary: libmagick++5 imagemagick libmagick5-dev libmagick5 libmagick++5-dev Architecture: sparc Version: 1:5.2.6-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Ryuichi Arafune [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: imagemagick - Image manipulation programs. libmagick++5 - The object-oriented C++ API to the ImageMagick library libmagick++5-dev - The object-oriented C++ API to the ImageMagick library.--developm libmagick5 - Image manipulation library (free version). libmagick5-dev - Image manipulation library (free version) -- development Closes: 79936 Changes: imagemagick (1:5.2.6-3) unstable; urgency=medium . *(libmagick5) Conflicts imagemagick (=5.2.6-1) closes: #79936 Files: d9a80a6d5076dc62958ec10639820e70 1129588 graphics optional imagemagick_5.2.6-3_sparc.deb dec12cfd41b7cebfdb546a9fc08e0cb3 733094 graphics optional libmagick5_5.2.6-3_sparc.deb f6e4b2b2a4aa76214f63c20749949f33 52862 graphics optional libmagick5-dev_5.2.6-3_sparc.deb ce51c13f680e0d3bd1af01c9d573e7a3 288554 graphics optional libmagick++5_5.2.6-3_sparc.deb cdaaa428eb6ef8979d10cb0c7039a5c9 47144 graphics optional libmagick++5-dev_5.2.6-3_sparc.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] iD8DBQE6Q+jIfNc/ZB4E7C0RAvvdAKCrUq6E27EThZcG69e0efQY1IkrogCfeukg ZpKAsg48kDkP84XICuhTkrI= =GWPc -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Uploaded w3c-libwww 5.3.1-3 (sparc) to ftp-master
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 17:18:27 +0900 Source: w3c-libwww Binary: libwww-dev libwww0 Architecture: sparc Version: 5.3.1-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Takuo KITAME [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: libwww-dev - The W3C-WWW library - development files. libwww0- The W3C-WWW library. Closes: 78438 Changes: w3c-libwww (5.3.1-3) unstable; urgency=low . * closes: #78438: missing build dependency Files: 15807980197c7ae397085469ac9f7b3f 408612 libs optional libwww0_5.3.1-3_sparc.deb 8661adef91d5c41ed03a8a95fbaca8e5 576930 devel optional libwww-dev_5.3.1-3_sparc.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] iD8DBQE6Q+jEfNc/ZB4E7C0RAqBhAJ9vTU3TGLDI0SJjxL3GX53eydiFPACgyIw0 G/8Iz6lQA9ZEJLkruFrc344= =t05k -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Uploaded mc 4.5.51-12 (sparc) to ftp-master
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 14:48:35 +0100 Source: mc Binary: mc mc-common gmc Architecture: sparc Version: 4.5.51-12 Distribution: unstable Urgency: high Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Martin Bialasinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: gmc- Midnight Commander - A powerful file manager. - Gnome version mc - Midnight Commander - A powerful file manager. - normal version mc-common - Common files for mc and gmc Closes: 74905 74906 75134 77172 79639 80014 80038 Changes: mc (4.5.51-12) unstable; urgency=high . * Added build-depends * Recompiled with latest glibc, closes: #74905, #74906, #75134, #77172 * Added menu hints, closes: #80014, #80038 * Fix problems with file selection code, closes: #79639 Thanks to Alexander Viro Files: f0ac88b0bdd86cda25f907a891f0266b 419196 utils optional mc_4.5.51-12_sparc.deb d7b7a2ddd4d7a6b00141189fec75ae96 1569758 utils optional gmc_4.5.51-12_sparc.deb 425f9e85ac5179aabc2924c49d11d75e 1244274 utils optional mc-common_4.5.51-12_sparc.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] iD8DBQE6RA2QfNc/ZB4E7C0RAhVZAJwObUWMpYLgJYwHAGt+W8fojeavdwCgvVQI lnh4j9xJ5A7DOqx7WuI5Ylw= =5Ki4 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Uploaded ash 0.3.7-13 (sparc) to ftp-master
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Uploaded t-code 2.1pre3-1 (sparc) to ftp-master
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Re: ITP: charities.cron
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://freshmeat.net/projects/charities.cron/ I'll look at it and make a package, unless someone really objects... Fix the tmp security hole while you are at it, will you? Thanks, -- Marcelo
looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in
Hi, I am maintainer for run and console-log, and waiting for NM to complete. Unfortunately, run has a nasty bug that causes console-log to hang which in turn may prevent a clean shutdown. Upstream doesn't maintain run any more (and I shouldn't have packaged it in the first place), and isn't interested in fixing that bug. I don't have the expertise to fix this one as it is buried deep inside interprocess communication and vanishes under the debugger and when debugging outputs are included, and asking for help on debian-devel multiple times didn't show a helper. I am now seriously thinking of having run pulled from the project since its quality surely isn't up to Debian's standards. To keep console-log, I need a program that can daemonize a normal program, i.e. put it in the background, maintain a pid file unter /var/run and optionally restart the program when it dies. Is something that can do this in Debian at the moment, or is there maybe somebody who can help in debugging run? Any hints will be appreciated. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | lose things.Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29
RE: linkchecker lintian warnings
On 22-Dec-2000 Bastian Kleineidam wrote: Hi, if you test my linkchecker .deb package: I just noticed that lintian gives the following warnings on my 1.2.12 package of LinkChecker: W: linkchecker: postinst-does-not-set-usr-doc-link W: linkchecker: prerm-does-not-remove-usr-doc-link a mental typo on my part in lintian. I am uploading 1.11.13 in a few minutes. Should be installed during dinstall run tomorrow. (btw it is debhelper, not debconf -- two different things)
finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition
It has been more than 1 year since the technical committee decided how the /usr/share/doc transition would be accomplished[1], and in that time most packages have implementede the transition. The decision stated that Thus, potato+1 (woody) ships with a full /usr/share/doc, and a /usr/doc full of symlinks. and went on to detail how woody+1 (sarge?) will begin to phase out the symlinks and how woody+2 will finally be free of this mess. I'm looking forward to a day with a lot less postinst and postrm scripts myself, so I want to make sure we don't miss the traget of full conversion by woody's release. There are a total of 645 packages that have not been converted[2]. There are 16 weeks between December 31st and Aj's projected freeze date for woody. If 40 people could do one package a week, we would be done. Or 20 people doing two a week, or just 6 people doing one a day. In other words, it seems acheivable, especially if we file bugs now on the undone packages, which would probably wake a fair number of maintainers up.. What do you think? -- see shy jo [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte-9908/msg00038.html [2] web/weblint mail/signify web/faqomatic doc/debian-guide x11/sfm oldlibs/libstdc++2.8 x11/libcqcam-dev x11/icewm-themes otherosfs/pilot-manager devel/lib-sax-java math/plotmtv net/asp devel/pydb base/libgdbmg1 non-free/x11/xtoolplaces devel/et non-free/news/trn devel/tk8.0-ja-dev text/ibrazilian text/ppd-gs utils/quickppp math/dome oldlibs/libg++27 non-free/sound/mp3asm devel/librx1g-dbg graphics/qvplay web/htget non-free/web/netscape-java-408 non-free/web/communicator-spellchk-408 sound/timidity-patches oldlibs/libc5-altdbg oldlibs/ncurses3.0 libs/libtime-modules-perl non-free/admin/idled oldlibs/ncurses3.4 non-free/graphics/xwpick libs/libggi-target-vcsa text/abc2ps utils/lsof-2.0.36 libs/libggi2 devel/libstringlist-dev interpreters/bwbasic devel/cflow x11/xpaste non-free/devel/scheme-to-c devel/curves net/lambdamoo-docs math/g2 non-free/web/chimera sound/awe-drv misc/dbf2mysql devel/libliteclue-dev net/rinetd non-free/web/netscape-dmotif-408 libs/aalib1-dev mail/xlbiff libs/umich-libldap math/tela math/dstool libs/libggi-target-aa games/g5 x11/xinput mail/splitdigest math/seesat5 editors/emacs20 editors/jed-sl-ja doc/tochnog-doc x11/xserver-ggi x11/iceconf libs/ftplib-dev games/netmaze non-free/misc/xacc-smotif interpreters/perl-debug libs/libawe0.4 text/wfrench devel/libgdbmg1-dev games/xvier misc/titrax net/sirc devel/rscheme-modules libs/libsrp-dev devel/librecode-dev libs/libliteclue oldlibs/librx1-altdev oldlibs/xaw95 graphics/cdlabelgen web/gtml utils/cracklib2 devel/sup base/update text/brazilian-conjugate libs/libggidemos interpreters/libfile-tail-perl doc/stl-manual x11/swisswatch utils/afbackup non-free/x11/xarchie x11/xfntmizi-ko devel/librx1g-dev editors/gnuserv interpreters/perl-suid admin/dialdcost oldlibs/libc5-altdev x11/fvwmconf non-free/web/communicator-dmotif-408 utils/libxdelta2 contrib/devel/cup editors/xcoral net/tinyirc graphics/vstream utils/cpbk otherosfs/hfsutils games/crossfire-client-gtk interpreters/bigloo non-free/graphics/picon-domains web/swish-e doc/installmanual-de devel/perl-byacc net/ftp-upload admin/lexmark7000linux non-free/net/archie x11/xmanpages-ja base/dpkg-multicd comm/seyon non-free/x11/xsnow devel/sml-nj contrib/x11/metro-motif-man otherosfs/pilot-template libs/libggi-target-svgalib non-free/x11/x3270 devel/libcdaudio0-dev misc/dtaus oldlibs/libgdbm1 oldlibs/libc5 games/mgt non-free/devel/gbdk-dev non-free/graphics/picon-news web/python-bobopos devel/libdnd1-dev net/sendfile libs/libggi-target-fbdev utils/authbind devel/fhist admin/mingetty text/sgml-base devel/kernel-patch-2.0.37-raid devel/kernel-source-2.0.36 games/xchain sound/mikmod libs/libgii0 non-free/web/navigator-dmotif-408 net/dhcp-dns devel/stalin net/rlinetd devel/binutils-m68k-linux net/zone-file-check doc/libgtk-doc sound/xmp non-free/games/ines comm/minicom devel/libawe0.4-dev utils/kbackup non-free/graphics/picon-misc games/empire-hub non-free/graphics/giflib3g-dev mail/bulkmail net/omirr non-free/math/gap4-tdat utils/kbackup-doc utils/tleds libs/libggi-samples interpreters/libtime-period-perl x11/logout-button doc/tkinfo x11/fsviewer utils/konfont text/psutils utils/lzop admin/timeoutd admin/printop devel/xxgdb misc/puzzle mail/tkmail non-free/misc/phylip utils/sformat non-free/x11/freefont devel/m2c graphics/libjpeg-progs non-free/web/netscape-smotif-408 non-free/graphics/picon-usenix contrib/web/netscape3 contrib/web/netscape4 text/par admin/bpowerd games/xbat sound/cdcd net/jail misc/readseq x11/rt doc/manpages-de-dev utils/synaptics devel/bock hamradio/ax25-tools devel/kernel-patch-2.2.10-netwinder non-free/utils/glimpse games/spider tex/bibview non-free/games/gsn-curses doc/ldp-ligs non-free/mail/rblsmtpd-src interpreters/gcl doc/r5rs-doc text/gsfonts math/meschach doc/guile1.3-doc interpreters/libprpc-perl graphics/phototk non-free/devel/ocamltk oldlibs/ncurses3.0-altdev
NSA's Secure Linux Distribution
No doubt most of you have seen the NSA's secure linux posting on Slashdot this morning. Looking at: http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/docs.html there appears to be several utilities that have been updated to provide enhanced security. Should we be merging these patches into Debian, assuming they appear to be compatible with our policy, etc.? Thanks, -Brent
please fix the smartlist setup on lists.debian.org
Donald J Bindner wrote:
On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 01:44:54PM -0600, Vince Mulhollon wrote:
The cruddy, slow, GUI based email program I use at work seems to imply your
reply to address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] but your email came from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Or maybe its the other way around. I hate
GUIs, they just make it harder.
If this really causes the problem [...]
It doesn't. The problem is explained in the attached email.
Someone with access to lists.debian.org needs to fix it.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is apparently unresponsive.
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On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 10:53:45PM +0100, Marco Herrn wrote:
Now I have the same problem. I tried it several times written the
unsubscribe in the subject and in the body. But it doesn't work. Thats the
answer I get:
You have not been removed, I couldn't find your name on the list.
What I did find were the following approximate matches:
1745 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 32752 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
822 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18529 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
432 [EMAIL PROTECTED]18227 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
741 [EMAIL PROTECTED]18227 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
623 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17202 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
791 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17202 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1197 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16631 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
704 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15460 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What I find really interesting is that my e-mail adress is contained 9
times!
Because it found 9 'similar' things and wasn't sure which you were
talking about.
The left hand side is 'addresses on the list', the right hand side is 'I
think it matches this address-like-thing I found in your mail'.
Admittedly SmartList isn't exactly clear about the meanings there, but
I've played with SmartList for years and know it well. :)
SmartList uses some weird logic to find address-like-things in mail
headers because, well, people suck and are subscribed based on all sorts
of things other than their 'From:' header (it could be their 'reply-to'
or their 'envelope-from' or 'sender:' and even then it may or may not
include a hostname like mail.example.com instead of just example.com
handling mailing lists sucks when so many clients and users are broken).
And this problem must be new. I have subscribed and unsubscribed several
times already. And evertime it worked.
Someone changed the thresholds in SmartList (those funny numbers in the
3rd column). The defaults (from ~list/.etc/rc.init on a Debian machine):
match_threshold = 30730 # for close matches to the list
medium_threshold= 28672 # for not so close matches to the list
loose_threshold = 24476 # for loosely finding your name
auto_off_threshold= $medium_threshold # for auto-unsubscribing bouncers
off_threshold = $loose_threshold # for unsubscribing
reject_threshold= $match_threshold # for rejecting subscriptions
submit_threshold= $medium_threshold # for permitting submissions
Clearly the first line in your quote above is more close (32752 30730)
than is needed in a stock install of SmartList and is the -only- one that
is above the 'off_threshold', so it should remove you just fine. It
should have matched your address, removed it and been done here:
if $multigram -b1 -l$off_threshold -x$listreq -x$listaddr $remov $dist \
2/dev/null
then
$echo
$echo You have been removed from the list.
Instead it fell through to:
else
$echo You have not been removed, I couldn't find your name on the list.
if test ! -z $unsub_assist -a 0 != $unsub_assist
then
$echo What I did find were the following approximate matches:
$echo
$multigram -m -b$unsub_assist -l-32767 -x$listreq -x$listaddr $dist \
$tmprequest
(etc)
Note that it opens the limit (-l) on the second part to show you
everything, even things far looser than what would normally match.
The numbers shouldn't be tweaked casually, but aparrently someone did
that. They should undo that tweaking.
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RE: finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition
There are a total of 645 packages that have not been converted[2]. There are 16 weeks between December 31st and Aj's projected freeze date for woody. If 40 people could do one package a week, we would be done. Or 20 people doing two a week, or just 6 people doing one a day. In other words, it seems acheivable, especially if we file bugs now on the undone packages, which would probably wake a fair number of maintainers up.. What do you think? other than perl packages and debconf packages, lintian tests are getting quite close to showing policy complience. Perhaps we should start pinging people whose packages fail in lintian. Either way, yes, it would be nice to kill many many postinsts.
Re: finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition
Joey Hess wrote: There are a total of 645 packages that have not been converted[2]. There are 16 weeks between December 31st and Aj's projected freeze date for woody. If 40 people could do one package a week, we would be done. Or 20 people doing two a week, or just 6 people doing one a day. In other words, it seems acheivable, especially if we file bugs now on the undone packages, which would probably wake a fair number of maintainers up.. I'd be glad to help. How should we proceed? Should we send patches to the appropiate maintainers or directly upload the NMUs? Honestly, they had enough time to tranist to /usr/share/doc. Roland -- Roland Bauerschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition
On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 01:04:26PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: It has been more than 1 year since the technical committee decided how the /usr/share/doc transition would be accomplished[1], and in that time most packages have implementede the transition. The decision stated that Thus, potato+1 (woody) ships with a full /usr/share/doc, and a /usr/doc full of symlinks. and went on to detail how woody+1 (sarge?) will begin to phase out the symlinks and how woody+2 will finally be free of this mess. I'm looking forward to a day with a lot less postinst and postrm scripts myself, so I want to make sure we don't miss the traget of full conversion by woody's release. There are a total of 645 packages that have not been converted[2]. There are 16 weeks between December 31st and Aj's projected freeze date for woody. If 40 people could do one package a week, we would be done. Or 20 people doing two a week, or just 6 people doing one a day. In other words, it seems acheivable, especially if we file bugs now on the undone packages, which would probably wake a fair number of maintainers up.. What do you think? I think we need to reevaluate this decision based on the fact that the bug in dpkg that forced this implementation (as opposed to a clean /usr/doc symlink to share/doc) has been gone for awhile now (the potato dpkg is fixed). For those that do not remember, the bug in dpkg would have caused doc files to go missing if /usr/doc was a symlink to share/doc, once a package was upgraded from the latter to the former (docs in /usr/share/doc). That is no longer the case, so I would hope that our efforts would be better spent writing a transition script to handle the move (moving things from /usr/doc to /usr/share/doc, if needed, and removing symlinks). Note that I have a /usr/doc - share/doc symlink on all my systems right now (note, auric is also setup this way, running potato, without any errors or missing files). Can we do this and avoid further hacking around with this? Moving to /usr/share/doc in woody is possible. The tools handle it, packages that support the symlink in postinst/prerm already magically work (IOW, any policy abiding app supports it), packages that use the old /usr/doc work with it, and new packages that only use /usr/share/doc will work with it. We just need a script/program that sanely does this transition, then creates the /usr/doc - share/doc symlink. Ben -- ---===-=-==-=---==-=-- / Ben Collins -- ...on that fantastic voyage... -- Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
Re: finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition
I'd be glad to help. How should we proceed? Should we send patches to the appropiate maintainers or directly upload the NMUs? Honestly, they had enough time to tranist to /usr/share/doc. send patch, wait some period of time (maybe a week?) then warn of NMU, then NMU.
[ADMIN] Unsubscription problems
Hi there, A number of people have reported problems with unsubscribing from various lists, principally debian-user and debian-devel. We, the listmaster team, believe we have fixed the underlying problem and you should merrily be able to [un]subscribe as needed. Please inform us if you aren't but keep in mind that you may not get a response with 24 hours. Three to four days is the norm. Thanks, Anand -- Linux.Conf.Au -- http://linux.conf.au/ 17th - 20th January,-- Alan Cox, David Miller, Sydney, Australia -- Tridge, maddog and you?
Re: NSA's Secure Linux Distribution
from the secret journal of Brent Fulgham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): No doubt most of you have seen the NSA's secure linux posting on Slashdot this morning. Looking at: http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/docs.html there appears to be several utilities that have been updated to provide enhanced security. Should we be merging these patches into Debian, assuming they appear to be compatible with our policy, etc.? unless we have a policy against security, it should be fine. :) it's all gpl. -- jacob kuntz [EMAIL PROTECTED] underworld.net/~jake
Re: Boost Windows Reliability!!!!!
Daniel Stone wrote: On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 01:06:53AM +0100, Robert van der Meulen wrote: Quoting Bas Zoetekouw ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Now you can boost the reliability of ordinary Windows 3.x, 95 and 98 to nearly the level of Windows NT or 2000, Microsoft's professional and industrial version of Windows. Hmm, the debian lists get quite a lot of spam lately. Is there anything that can be done about this? Close debian-devel for posting by non-subscribers, ask for volunteers who would like to 'moderate' debian-devel, and have them look at the rejected messages and accept them if on-topic. Every mailing list i know has these functions, I was also wondering why we weren't using such a system ;) Every mailing list software might have these functions, but none of the open project mailing lists that I know of do this. linux-kernel, gcc, glibc, openldap. There's a very good reason for this. Not the least of which is the effort in keeping it up. Secondly, not all developers use the same email accounts. I, for example, have three email accounts from which I post to Debian-devel. Solution: Pick one you like, stick to it, even if it means having forwarders, having to SSH in, faking senders, whatever. anot her solution is the one I've seen svlug.org using: you can subscribe without email being sent to you (they use mailman, IIRC). So you can subscribe all your addresses and sent email to list from all of them but receive email from list only in one account. erik
Re: wnpp bug reports
On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 12:58:54PM -0500, Bob Hilliard wrote: Is there any way to submit an ITP bug on WNPP, so that the bug number appears in the copy to -devel? Yes, put -devel in Cc: or (X-Debbugs-Cc:) fields. -- Digital Electronic Being Intended for Assassination and Nullification
Re: NSA's Secure Linux Distribution
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brent Fulgham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No doubt most of you have seen the NSA's secure linux posting on Slashdot this morning. Looking at: http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/docs.html there appears to be several utilities that have been updated to provide enhanced security. Ofcourse it's not just the utilities - they rely on the special NSA Linux kernel. Packaging the NSA versions of the utilities is only useful if Debian was also using the NSA Linux kernel. The NSA Linux kernel is based on 2.2 (while 2.4 is due out soon), it deviates from the standard kernel in a big way, and it is higly experimental. The kernel people are going to look at the NSA kernel, and might merge the security features in 2.6 or 3.0, then again they might not merge them at all. So I guess it's not an issue. Unless you want to start a seperate destribution, based on Debian: Debian/GNU/NSA Linux Mike.
Re: NSA's Secure Linux Distribution
At 04:38 PM 12-22-2000 -0500, Jacob Kuntz wrote: from the secret journal of Brent Fulgham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): No doubt most of you have seen the NSA's secure linux posting on Slashdot this morning. Looking at: http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/docs.html there appears to be several utilities that have been updated to provide enhanced security. Should we be merging these patches into Debian, assuming they appear to be compatible with our policy, etc.? unless we have a policy against security, it should be fine. :) it's all gpl. I'd take a close look at what they did before deciding to integrate their patches in. The goals of the NSA in doing this may not be suitable for Debian. I'm not talking about paranoia concerning the NSA putting back-doors into everything; I'm taking as given that they are being honest and upfront about what they are doing and why. But... Here is a quote from their overview page (http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/index.html): Security-enhanced Linux is not an attempt to correct any flaws that may currently exist in Linux. Instead, it is simply an example of how mandatory access controls that can confine the actions of any process, including a superuser process, can be added into Linux. The focus of this work has not been on system assurance or other security features such as security auditing, although these elements are also important for a secure system. In addition, while they provide 15 new or modified system utilities, they also provide 36 new system-calls, and require a custom kernel to handle the system. On their to-do list are the following items: Port the kernel patches to the latest 2.2 kernel Port the kernel patches to the 2.4.0 kernel Port the utility patches to the latest versions of the base utilities so I'm not even sure we -could- apply their patches, even if we wanted to. -- jacob kuntz [EMAIL PROTECTED] underworld.net/~jake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libapache-asp-perl - perl Apache::ASP - Active Server Pages for Apache with mod_perl.
Piotr == Piotr Roszatycki [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Piotr ITO: libapache-asp-perl Piotr ITO: libapache-filter-perl Piotr ITO: libapache-ssi-perl Piotr ITO: libcgi-pm-perl Piotr ITO: libdbd-csv-perl Piotr ITO: libhtml-clean-perl Piotr ITO: libhtml-simpleparse-perl Piotr ITO: libsql-statement-perl Piotr ITO: libtext-csv-perl I will happily pick all these up. -- Stephen If I claimed I was emporer just cause some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me they'd put me away
Re: NSA's Secure Linux Distribution
from the secret journal of Buddha Buck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): unless we have a policy against security, it should be fine. :) it's all gpl. i posted that before i hit the download page. Security-enhanced Linux is not an attempt to correct any flaws that may currently exist in Linux. Instead, it is simply an example of how mandatory access controls that can confine the actions of any process, including a superuser process, can be added into Linux. The focus of this work has not been on system assurance or other security features such as security auditing, although these elements are also important for a secure system. In addition, while they provide 15 new or modified system utilities, they also provide 36 new system-calls, and require a custom kernel to handle the system. On their to-do list are the following items: Port the kernel patches to the latest 2.2 kernel Port the kernel patches to the 2.4.0 kernel Port the utility patches to the latest versions of the base utilities so I'm not even sure we -could- apply their patches, even if we wanted to. you have a point. but what about seperate packages for the modified ones, or even wrapper scripts like we do with dhcpd? that sounds somewhat ugly, adding quite a bit of bulk to the default install since even tar and procps get patched. -- jacob kuntz [EMAIL PROTECTED] underworld.net/~jake
the experimental mutt package
Some days ago I uploaded mutt 1.3.12 to experimental. Please test it, because if people will not complain I'm going to upload it to woody. README.Debian says: ~~ ~ NOTES ABOUT THE EXPERIMENTAL PACKAGE ~ ~ There is no support for building dinamically loadable crypto modules. ~ There is no GSSAPI support. ~ If it works, great. ~ If it breaks, you keep bot pieces (but send a bug report). ~ ~~ -- ciao, Marco
Re: NSA's Secure Linux Distribution
Pardon my paranoia, but even if it was worth making all the changes they are talking about (which are pretty extensive), I'd want to see anything coming from the NSA audited carefully before being included. Britton Kerin __ GNU GPL: The Source will be with you... always. On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Jacob Kuntz wrote: from the secret journal of Brent Fulgham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): No doubt most of you have seen the NSA's secure linux posting on Slashdot this morning. Looking at: http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/docs.html there appears to be several utilities that have been updated to provide enhanced security. Should we be merging these patches into Debian, assuming they appear to be compatible with our policy, etc.? unless we have a policy against security, it should be fine. :) it's all gpl. -- jacob kuntz [EMAIL PROTECTED] underworld.net/~jake
Re: NSA's Secure Linux Distribution
from the secret journal of Britton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Pardon my paranoia, but even if it was worth making all the changes they are talking about (which are pretty extensive), I'd want to see anything coming from the NSA audited carefully before being included. Britton Kerin you're pardoned. i'm sure we're all a little wary of No Such Agency right now, with carnivore and all. but what fact are these fears based in? would the nsa really plop a backdoor in an opensource project, hoping it missed and accepted with the rest of the code? i doubt it. their whole (advertised) motive was to protect against the possibility of Trusted (AIX|Solaris|PalmOS|whatever closed os) going belly up. of course i plan on running this monster on a throwaway machine before i make form any real opinions. -- jacob kuntz [EMAIL PROTECTED] underworld.net/~jake
Re: Boost Windows Reliability!!!!!
On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 01:39:45AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 12:43:03AM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: Hmm, the debian lists get quite a lot of spam lately. Is there anything that can be done about this? Pardon my French, but this is a fucking stupid idea. Did you ever stop to think that there are only a tiny handful of mailers that even think about supporting this? And in a half-decent way? If this is implemented in -devel, or any Debian lists, it will be one of the, if not the, most stupid decisions made. A possability might be to have a signature key. This is not significantly different than the extra header idea but it would allow *any* MUA to work with it. Could be something like a GPG fingerprint or whatever. Just a thought. -- Frisco Rose By any other name, I would smell the same E.O.U. Stud. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physics Mathematics Computer Science INTACT Director
Bug#80343: general: Lack of policy on which files should be owned by which user
Package: general
Version: 20001222
Severity: important
Hi,
I feel that there exists a general confusion among some Debian developers as
to what user ids such as 'nobody' should be used for. I suggest that the
policy be updated with relevant advice.
As I see it, 'nobody' should be a user that owns no files and has no
privileges; thus, if a service running as 'nobody' were to be compromised,
the attacker wouldn't gain the ability to change any files.
However, some packages seem to contain or create files owned by 'nobody' or
the 'nogroup' group (for example, the buffers of distributed-net-pproxy are
owned by nobody.nogroup).
www-data is another user that shouldn't own files (so that breaking into the
webserver won't allow the attacker to replace files on the system); sadly,
Roxen needs to own its own configuration files for the web-based
configuration interface to work.
'daemon' is another user that is, in my opinion, often abused. For example,
portmap, the 'at' daemon, lprng and the distributed-net client all run under
the 'daemon' uid. There is no need for these to be able to affect each other
in any way (e.g. send each other signals). All of these should probably run
under their own (dynamically allocated) user id.
A quick search for files owned by 'daemon' turned up the following:
/var/state/mon
/var/lib/distributed-net
/var/lib/distributed-net/distributed-net.ini
/var/lib/distributed-net/distributed-net
/var/lib/distributed-net/buff-out.rc5
/var/lib/distributed-net/buff-in.rc5
/var/log/mon
/var/run/lprng/lpd.printer
/var/run/mon
/var/spool/cron/atjobs
/var/spool/cron/atjobs/.SEQ
/var/spool/cron/atspool
and any number of files and directories under /var/spool/lpd/.
Obviously, the portmapper has no need to write to any of these; however, if
an attacker were to compromise it and gain its privileges, they could break
unrelated software (like lprng or distributed-net) on the system, perhaps
even leading to privilege escalation.
Imho 'daemon' is a user that exists mainly for historical reasons, reminding
us of times when security wasn't as much an issue as it is now.
Basically, if two processes have no need to ever send each other signals or
write to the same files, they probably shouldn't run under the same user id
(except if they need to run as root, of course).
Now that capabilities exist in the Linux kernel, Debian packages should
probably make use of them more often; perhaps even fewer programs would need
to run as root do their work.
Most packages that contain programs run 'at system level' ('daemons') should
probably create their own user id that the program can run under (luckily,
many packages already do this).
I file this report as 'important' because the way things are now, a
vulnerability in an unprivileged (non-root) service can be used to
compromise other unrelated services running under the same userid.
Regards,
Andrew
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Re: wnpp bug reports
Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 12:58:54PM -0500, Bob Hilliard wrote: Is there any way to submit an ITP bug on WNPP, so that the bug number appears in the copy to -devel? Yes, put -devel in Cc: or (X-Debbugs-Cc:) fields. When I have done this, the report shows up on -devel the same as I submitted it - the Bug Number doesn't appear. -- _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] |_) (_) |_) 1294 S.W. Seagull Way [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palm City, FL USA GPG Key ID: 390D6559 PGP Key ID: A8E40EB9
Re: NSA's Secure Linux Distribution
On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Jacob Kuntz wrote: from the secret journal of Britton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Pardon my paranoia, but even if it was worth making all the changes they are talking about (which are pretty extensive), I'd want to see anything coming from the NSA audited carefully before being included. Britton Kerin you're pardoned. i'm sure we're all a little wary of No Such Agency right now, with carnivore and all. but what fact are these fears based in? would the nsa really plop a backdoor It wouldn't be paranoia if it had a basis in fact :) in an opensource project, hoping it missed and accepted with the rest of the code? i doubt it. their whole (advertised) motive was to protect against the possibility of Trusted (AIX|Solaris|PalmOS|whatever closed os) going belly up. Agreed. But past things like the weird unexplained DES s-boxes show that NSA is at least not afraid of doing things that are blatantly suspicious. And a lot of insiders there have the attitude that no one outside a project ever really looks closely enough at things to detect problems unless something is noticably broken. With Linux and open source that assumption is probably more wrong than ever before, but still with a grain of truth in it. of course i plan on running this monster on a throwaway machine before i make form any real opinions. Good thought. I guess if it seems to work we could offer an alternate kernel package, and perhaps one huge package with all their patched utilities or something? Trouble is a lot of them are kind of buried in other debian packages and would not be easy to substitute for. jacob kuntz [EMAIL PROTECTED] underworld.net/~jake Britton
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Close list
I'm getting tired of getting spam through mail lists I subscribe to that have an open post policy. Can we please close the debian-devel and other such lists that should be closed. I don't think trademark domains is doing anything for debian development. -- Carl B. Constantine ([EMAIL PROTECTED])Phone: 250.953.2650 Open Source Solutions Inc. Fax: 250.953.2659 4252 Commerce Circle, Victoria, BC. V8Z 4M2 http://www.os-s.com/ I feel like a genocidal maniac when emacs asks me if I want to kill 10789 characters.
Re: Close list
Carl B. Constantine wrote: I'm getting tired of getting spam through mail lists I subscribe to that have an open post policy. Can we please close the debian-devel and other such lists that should be closed. I don't think trademark domains is doing anything for debian development. This is ill-advised proposal #403021; check the list archives for flamewar #403021b; the conclusion is always: no. -- see shy jo
Re: Close list
Carl B. Constantine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm getting tired of getting spam through mail lists I subscribe to that have an open post policy. Can we please close the debian-devel and other such lists that should be closed. I don't think trademark domains is doing anything for debian development. Before you go starting another flame war, did you go back and look through the list history for 'closed list' et similae? Maybe you could do that, and respond to the concerns raised in *those* flame wars... -- David N. Welton Personal: http://www.efn.org/~davidw/ Free Software: http://people.debian.org/~davidw/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org
Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in
Marc Haber wrote: Hi, I am maintainer for run and console-log, and waiting for NM to complete. Unfortunately, run has a nasty bug that causes console-log to hang which in turn may prevent a clean shutdown. Upstream doesn't maintain run any more (and I shouldn't have packaged it in the first place), and isn't interested in fixing that bug. I don't have the expertise to fix this one as it is buried deep inside interprocess communication and vanishes under the debugger and when debugging outputs are included, and asking for help on debian-devel multiple times didn't show a helper. I am now seriously thinking of having run pulled from the project since its quality surely isn't up to Debian's standards. To keep console-log, I need a program that can daemonize a normal program, i.e. put it in the background, maintain a pid file unter /var/run and optionally restart the program when it dies. Is something that can do this in Debian at the moment, or is there maybe somebody who can help in debugging run? what about that start-stop-daemon or something like that used to start and stop daemons and various services, check the /etc/init.d scripts what/how they use, I do not have debian handy at the moment but I think it might do what you want. erik
Re: Boost Windows Reliability!!!!!
from the secret journal of esoR ocsirF ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): A possability might be to have a signature key. This is not significantly different than the extra header idea but it would allow *any* MUA to work with it. Could be something like a GPG fingerprint or whatever. Just a thought. first thoughtungh. overhead./ -- Jacob Kuntz underworld.net/~jake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Strategery -- George W. Bush Lockbox -- Al Gore
Re: Boost Windows Reliability!!!!!
from the secret journal of Ben Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Solution: just deal with the few spam we get so as not to hinder real discussions. Ben amen. OK, if you can do that, I'm absolutely thrilled to do it, PLEASE make debian-devel spam-free. But the problem is that you CAN'T. Because there's too much of it. What are we going to do, kill everything with more than 2 exclamation marks? Come on, don't tell me you're _that_ naive.
Re: wnpp bug reports
On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 06:03:28PM -0500, Bob Hilliard wrote: Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, put -devel in Cc: or (X-Debbugs-Cc:) fields. When I have done this, the report shows up on -devel the same as I submitted it - the Bug Number doesn't appear. If you CC it it will - that's just a regular mailing list posting. If you use X-Debbugs-Cc it will go through the BTS first. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpEPFtochrQo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: testing to be implemented on ftp-master
Adrian Bunk wrote: BTW: Are there any rules when a developer has to use which urgency or can he if he wants to simply do all his uploads with the urgency set to high? I read the Packaging Manual and I did only find a very vague how important it is to upgrade to this version from previous ones that can be interpreted in many ways. The urgency field really hasn't been used at all. Now at least two things are using it: 1. Testing 2. Apt-listchanges (sorts by urgency) If I see a developer consitently and unnecessarily using normal urgency in apt-listchanges when I upgrade, I think I would eventually get sick of it and complain to them. -- see shy jo
Re: Boost Windows Reliability!!!!!
Daniel Stone wrote: from the secret journal of Ben Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Solution: just deal with the few spam we get so as not to hinder real discussions. Ben amen. OK, if you can do that, I'm absolutely thrilled to do it, PLEASE make debian-devel spam-free. But the problem is that you CAN'T. Because there's too much of it. What are we going to do, kill everything with more than 2 exclamation marks? Come on, don't tell me you're _that_ naive. He said deal with it and ignore it, not anything from your quote suggests that he said something about stopping it.
Re: Boost Windows Reliability!!!!!
On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 12:00:26PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: from the secret journal of Ben Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Solution: just deal with the few spam we get so as not to hinder real discussions. Ben amen. OK, if you can do that, I'm absolutely thrilled to do it, PLEASE make debian-devel spam-free. But the problem is that you CAN'T. Because there's too much of it. What are we going to do, kill everything with more than 2 exclamation marks? Come on, don't tell me you're _that_ naive. By deal with it I mean, get over it. It's only a few spam, you can hit the delete key as easily as anything else. BTW, I'm on a 28.8, and I get over 1000 emails a day from all the lists I am sub'd to. So I do see a lot of spam, even beyond Debian's lists. If I can ignore it, so can everyone else, IMNHO. Ben -- ---===-=-==-=---==-=-- / Ben Collins -- ...on that fantastic voyage... -- Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
Re: Boost Windows Reliability!!!!!
Quoting Ben Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): BTW, I'm on a 28.8, and I get over 1000 emails a day from all the lists I am sub'd to. So I do see a lot of spam, even beyond Debian's lists. If I can ignore it, so can everyone else, IMNHO. Ignoring spam has made the internet the spam-ridden place it is right now. As long as people do not do anything about it, spam will be as commonplace and as 'ignorable' as spam by snailmail. I do not like that, and lots of people don't. Apart from the annoyances, spammers almost regularly clobber up mailservers, network links, and are being _very_ intrusive. Spam is not an ignorable problem, and every spam-account i can manage to get killed, will get killed. If your opinion is that we shouldn't actively try to bring down the spam to a minimum, and just delete it - that's your opinion, but definately not mine, and not a lot of others' too ;) Greets, Robert -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Cistron Internet Services - www.cistron.nl| | php3/c/perl/html/c++/sed/awk/linux/sql/cgi/security | | My statements are mine, and not necessarily cistron's. | If you want divine justice, die. -- Nick Seldon
Re: Boost Windows Reliability!!!!!
On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 02:21:46AM +0100, Robert van der Meulen wrote: Quoting Ben Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): BTW, I'm on a 28.8, and I get over 1000 emails a day from all the lists I am sub'd to. So I do see a lot of spam, even beyond Debian's lists. If I can ignore it, so can everyone else, IMNHO. Ignoring spam has made the internet the spam-ridden place it is right now. As long as people do not do anything about it, spam will be as commonplace and as 'ignorable' as spam by snailmail. I do not like that, and lots of people don't. Apart from the annoyances, spammers almost regularly clobber up mailservers, network links, and are being _very_ intrusive. Spam is not an ignorable problem, and every spam-account i can manage to get killed, will get killed. If your opinion is that we shouldn't actively try to bring down the spam to a minimum, and just delete it - that's your opinion, but definately not mine, and not a lot of others' too ;) My opinion is that trying to block spam is a losing battle. Trying to attack it at it's roots by closing open relays, filing suit on people breaking the law, etc..is the right thing. It's like arresting drug users, as opposed to arresting the drug smugglers. You should kill the root, not the offspring. Ben -- ---===-=-==-=---==-=-- / Ben Collins -- ...on that fantastic voyage... -- Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
Re: Boost Windows Reliability!!!!!
You going to send them the bill then? At the bottom off the mailinglist subscription page: http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe is the mailinglist policy. Basically, the policy says either pay us $1,000 up front or $1,999 after. Martin (Joey, whatever you prefer...), Remco, Alexander, Anand (the listed mailing lists administration members): I think that you have some volunteers to send dunning notices within this thread (myself included). If you already are, could you post a summary of your actions and results on a periodic basis to somewhere that we can refer the close the list thread starters to? On Sat, 23 Dec 2000, Robert van der Meulen wrote: Quoting Ben Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): BTW, I'm on a 28.8, and I get over 1000 emails a day from all the lists I am sub'd to. So I do see a lot of spam, even beyond Debian's lists. If I can ignore it, so can everyone else, IMNHO. Ignoring spam has made the internet the spam-ridden place it is right now. As long as people do not do anything about it, spam will be as commonplace and as 'ignorable' as spam by snailmail. I do not like that, and lots of people don't. Apart from the annoyances, spammers almost regularly clobber up mailservers, network links, and are being _very_ intrusive. Spam is not an ignorable problem, and every spam-account i can manage to get killed, will get killed. If your opinion is that we shouldn't actively try to bring down the spam to a minimum, and just delete it - that's your opinion, but definately not mine, and not a lot of others' too ;) Greets, Robert -- Pardon me, but you have obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a damn. email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boost Windows Reliability!!!!!
I was kind of feeling sorry about including you as a CC in the last post--partial oversight, partial personal policy (I never quite know how to deal with tertiary CCs: I generally detest people who adulterate a message they're replying to, but I also think that responsibility for replies stops about third-hand). This eases my conscience somewhat: Sending bills and dunning letters IAW a pre-existing policy sounds like it fits your kill the root, not the offspring ethos... So are you a part of the problem in this case or willing to be part of the solution? On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Ben Collins wrote: On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 02:21:46AM +0100, Robert van der Meulen wrote: Quoting Ben Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): BTW, I'm on a 28.8, and I get over 1000 emails a day from all the lists I am sub'd to. So I do see a lot of spam, even beyond Debian's lists. If I can ignore it, so can everyone else, IMNHO. Ignoring spam has made the internet the spam-ridden place it is right now. As long as people do not do anything about it, spam will be as commonplace and as 'ignorable' as spam by snailmail. I do not like that, and lots of people don't. Apart from the annoyances, spammers almost regularly clobber up mailservers, network links, and are being _very_ intrusive. Spam is not an ignorable problem, and every spam-account i can manage to get killed, will get killed. If your opinion is that we shouldn't actively try to bring down the spam to a minimum, and just delete it - that's your opinion, but definately not mine, and not a lot of others' too ;) My opinion is that trying to block spam is a losing battle. Trying to attack it at it's roots by closing open relays, filing suit on people breaking the law, etc..is the right thing. It's like arresting drug users, as opposed to arresting the drug smugglers. You should kill the root, not the offspring. Ben -- Pardon me, but you have obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a damn. email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
update excuses.. how to read them
Hello, if i take for example: http://ftp-master.debian.org/~ajt/update_excuses.html adns 1.0-3 (low) Maintainer: Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] adns is 27 days out of date! out of date on alpha: libadns0, libadns0-dev (from 0.8-2) out of date on i386: libadns0, libadns0-dev (from 0.8-2) there are up to date bins in i386 also out of date on m68k: libadns0, libadns0-dev (from 0.8-2) there are up to date bins in m68k also out of date on powerpc: libadns0, libadns0-dev (from 0.8-2) there are up to date bins in powerpc also out of date on sparc: libadns0, libadns0-dev (from 0.8-2) there are up to date bins in sparc also not considered Does that mean that it is not considered because on alpha there are no up-to-date bins? The line out of date can be ignored as long as there is also a line there are up to date bins in * also? Is there a build-info for all the other platforms, too? How can I see why the alpha failed to build my package? The valid candidate (will be installed unless it's dependent upon other buggy pkgs) is printed, even if the package is already installed in woody? Greetings Bernd -- (OO) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ( .. ) [EMAIL PROTECTED],linux.de,debian.org} http://home.pages.de/~eckes/ o--o *plush* 2048/93600EFD [EMAIL PROTECTED] +497257930613 BE5-RIPE (OO) When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl!
Re: Boost Windows Reliability!!!!!
On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 02:21:46AM +0100, Robert van der Meulen wrote: Quoting Ben Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): BTW, I'm on a 28.8, and I get over 1000 emails a day from all the lists I am sub'd to. So I do see a lot of spam, even beyond Debian's lists. If I can ignore it, so can everyone else, IMNHO. I can ignore it, too. It was my fault for misreading; I stand corrected. Ignoring spam has made the internet the spam-ridden place it is right now. As long as people do not do anything about it, spam will be as commonplace and as 'ignorable' as spam by snailmail. I do not like that, and lots of people don't. Apart from the annoyances, spammers almost regularly clobber up mailservers, network links, and are being _very_ intrusive. Spam is not an ignorable problem, and every spam-account i can manage to get killed, will get killed. If your opinion is that we shouldn't actively try to bring down the spam to a minimum, and just delete it - that's your opinion, but definately not mine, and not a lot of others' too ;) My opinion is that trying to block spam is a losing battle. Trying to attack it at it's roots by closing open relays, filing suit on people breaking the law, etc..is the right thing. It's like arresting drug users, as opposed to arresting the drug smugglers. You should kill the root, not the offspring. Which isn't to say you leave the offspring alone. You slay them, too. You have to do both - not just one or the other. EOT for me.
Re: Close list
Carl B. Constantine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm getting tired of getting spam through mail lists I subscribe to that have an open post policy. Can we please close the debian-devel and other such lists that should be closed. I don't think trademark domains is doing anything for debian development. No, lets not. Right now I'm subscribed to debian-devel, but often in the past I've read it occasionally in the archives, and sent mail as I thought appropriate. I know there are other people who do this. The fact is that the spam level on debian-devel right now is in the noise (it's certainly exceeded by the volume of pointless and/or downright stupid posts). -Miles -- Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come. --Nietzsche
Re: finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition
On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 01:04:26PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: base/update I uploaded a NMU for this already. Roland -- Roland Bauerschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Close list
On 12/22/2000 19:44, Miles Bader at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, lets not. Right now I'm subscribed to debian-devel, but often in the past I've read it occasionally in the archives, and sent mail as I thought appropriate. I know there are other people who do this. The fact is that the spam level on debian-devel right now is in the noise (it's certainly exceeded by the volume of pointless and/or downright stupid posts). Yo ppl, it's not hard to archive a closed list, most list software supports archive directly. Sheesh! You make it sound like it's the end of the world for crying out loud. Give me a break! No one should be allowed to post to ANY mail list that is NOT subscribed to that list! all we need is for more idiot spammers to harvest the address and spam ad infinitum. Then maybe you'll change your minds. *sigh* Back to regularly scheduled Debian/woody discussion. -- Carl B. Constantine ([EMAIL PROTECTED])Phone: 250.953.2650 Open Source Solutions Inc. Fax: 250.953.2659 4252 Commerce Circle, Victoria, BC. V8Z 4M2 http://www.os-s.com/ I feel like a genocidal maniac when emacs asks me if I want to kill 10789 characters.
Re: Close list
Carl B. Constantine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yo ppl, it's not hard to archive a closed list, most list software supports archive directly. Sheesh! You make it sound like it's the end of the world for crying out loud. Give me a break! I was complaining about not being able to post to the list when I wasn't subscribed. No one should be allowed to post to ANY mail list that is NOT subscribed to that list! Why? all we need is for more idiot spammers to harvest the address and spam ad infinitum. Then maybe you'll change your minds. Well, so far this hasn't happened. Until it _does_ happen, there's absolutely no reason to restrict posting to the list. -Miles -- Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come. --Nietzsche
Re: Close list
This discussion is being taken off list to avoid yet another flame war (not my intention to start another flamewar). -- Carl B. Constantine ([EMAIL PROTECTED])Phone: 250.953.2650 Open Source Solutions Inc. Fax: 250.953.2659 4252 Commerce Circle, Victoria, BC. V8Z 4M2 http://www.os-s.com/ I feel like a genocidal maniac when emacs asks me if I want to kill 10789 characters.
Re: update excuses.. how to read them
On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 04:04:03AM +0100, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: if i take for example: http://ftp-master.debian.org/~ajt/update_excuses.html adns 1.0-3 (low) Maintainer: Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] adns is 27 days out of date! out of date on alpha: libadns0, libadns0-dev (from 0.8-2) out of date on i386: libadns0, libadns0-dev (from 0.8-2) there are up to date bins in i386 also out of date on m68k: libadns0, libadns0-dev (from 0.8-2) there are up to date bins in m68k also out of date on powerpc: libadns0, libadns0-dev (from 0.8-2) there are up to date bins in powerpc also out of date on sparc: libadns0, libadns0-dev (from 0.8-2) there are up to date bins in sparc also not considered Does that mean that it is not considered because on alpha there are no up-to-date bins? Since libadns0 and libadns0-dev seem to be out of date on all architectures, it probably means they're not being built anymore, and need to be removed from unstable. Whether there are up to date bins on an arch is more just to give a hint at what might be causing the problem, rather than anything particularly important. Is there a build-info for all the other platforms, too? How can I see why the alpha failed to build my package? It may well be excluded on alpha: there are (according to the above) *no* other abcde binaries on alpha, whether up to date or not. The valid candidate (will be installed unless it's dependent upon other buggy pkgs) is printed, even if the package is already installed in woody? The way it goes is: * package files are generated, mirroring happens etc * testing scripts run: - excuses generated - attempt to add all valid candidates to woody (some fail, some succeed) - dinstall is told what to put into woody * time passes * packages files are generates, mirroring happens etc * wash, rinse, repeat So I don't think valid candidate should appear for any version of a package already in woody at the time you see it, unless you get in between mirroring and the testing scripts getting run. Unless you're poking around at the dinstall database on auric, of course. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``Thanks to all avid pokers out there'' -- linux.conf.au, 17-20 January 2001 pgpn3kZIaCHdt.pgp Description: PGP signature
