Mass bug filing: lesstif1->lesstif2 transition

2006-06-15 Thread Kai Hendry
Lesstif1 is deprecated in favour of the upstream maintained lesstif2.

More background is available here:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2006/06/msg00154.html

Transition status will be tracked on the Wiki:
http://wiki.debian.org/OngoingTransitions

Affected packages are:

Adrian Bridgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   xmcd

Eric Delaunay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   xtel

Anthony Fok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   stardic

Debian QA Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   electric

Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   sqsh

Camm Maguire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   xmpi

Steffen Moeller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   clustalw

Barak Pearlmutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   sciplot

Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   plan

Steve M. Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   geomview
   inventor

Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   xsol

Joop Stakenborg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   twclock
   twpsk

Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   njplot

Aaron M. Ucko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   ncbi-tools6

Lucas Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   imaze

Sam Hocevar (Debian packages) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   elk
   lesstif1-1


Best wishes and try have a good weekend,


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Work-needing packages report for Jun 16, 2006

2006-06-15 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested
through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the
last week.

Total number of orphaned packages: 280 (new: 1)
Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 86 (new: 3)
Total number of packages requested help for: 21 (new: 1)

Please refer to http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ for more information.



The following packages have been orphaned:

   sawfish (#373702), orphaned yesterday
 Description: a window manager for X11
 Reverse Depends: gnome-core sawfish-merlin-ugliness sawfish-pager
   sawfish-themes sawfish-xmms
 Installations reported by Popcon: 1063

279 older packages have been omitted from this listing, see
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/orphaned for a complete list.



The following packages have been given up for adoption:

   libraw1394 (#372802), offered 4 days ago
 Description: library for direct access to IEEE 1394 bus (aka
   FireWire)
 Reverse Depends: coriander dvgrab ffmpeg ffmpeg2theora gscanbus
   gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.8-dv kcontrol kino
   libavc1394-0 (19 more omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 7466

   libspf2 (#372629), offered 5 days ago
 Description: Sender Policy Framework library, written in C
 Reverse Depends: libspf2-dev spfquery
 Installations reported by Popcon: 37

   libsrs2 (#372630), offered 5 days ago
 Description: SRS email address rewriting engine
 Reverse Depends: libsrs2-dev
 Installations reported by Popcon: 10

83 older packages have been omitted from this listing, see
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/rfa_bypackage for a complete list.



For the following packages help is requested:

[NEW] ntp (#373824), requested today
 Description: Network Time Protocol: network utilities
 Reverse Depends: nagios-plugins-standard ntp-refclock ntp-server
   ntp-simple radioclk
 Installations reported by Popcon: 8037

   aboot (#315592), requested 357 days ago
 Description: Alpha bootloader: Looking for co-maintainers
 Reverse Depends: aboot aboot-cross dfsbuild ltsp-server
 Installations reported by Popcon: 53

   apt-build (#365427), requested 47 days ago
 Description: Need new developer(s)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 417

   athcool (#278442), requested 597 days ago
 Description: Enable powersaving mode for Athlon/Duron processors
 Installations reported by Popcon: 218

   cvs (#354176), requested 112 days ago
 Description: Concurrent Versions System
 Reverse Depends: bonsai cvs-autoreleasedeb cvs-buildpackage cvs2cl
   cvs2html cvsconnect cvsd cvsdelta cvsps cvsreport (15 more omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 7132

   docbook (#358522), requested 85 days ago
 Description: standard SGML representation system for technical
   documents
 Reverse Depends: alcovebook-sgml docbook-dsssl docbook-to-man
   sgmltools-lite
 Installations reported by Popcon: 3331

   docbook-xml (#358520), requested 85 days ago
 Description: standard XML documentation system, for software and
   systems
 Reverse Depends: dblatex docbook-dsssl docbook-ebnf
   docbook-html-forms docbook-jrefentry docbook-mathml docbook-simple
   docbook-slides docbook-website docbook-xsl-stylesheets-ko (6 more
   omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 8041

   dpkg (#282283), requested 572 days ago
 Description: dselect: a user tool to manage Debian packages
 Reverse Depends: alien alsa-source apt-build apt-src backuppc
   build-essential clamsmtp crosshurd cvs-autoreleasedeb
   cvs-buildpackage (83 more omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 13303

   grub (#248397), requested 766 days ago
 Description: GRand Unified Bootloader
 Reverse Depends: dfsbuild grub-splashimages grubconf replicator
 Installations reported by Popcon: 10085

   gtkpod (#319711), requested 326 days ago
 Description: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod
 Installations reported by Popcon: 339

   lirc (#364606), requested 52 days ago
 Description: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support
 Reverse Depends: digitaldj fbtv gkrellm-radio gxine irmp3 kradio
   liblircclient-dev lirc lirc-svga lirc-x (15 more omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 7400

   mwavem (#313369), requested 367 days ago (non-free)
 Description: Mwave/ACP modem support software
 Installations reported by Popcon: 6

   nas (#354174), requested 112 days ago
 Description: The Network Audio System
 Reverse Depends: abakus abuse acm acm4 adept alsaplayer-nas apollon
   ark arson asc (235 more omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 8927

   openssl (#332498), r

Re: Bug#363486: dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, EXCEL, MEDIA-PLAYER etc.

2006-06-15 Thread Guillem Jover
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 03:06:09 +0300, Jari Aalto+mail.linux wrote:
> I don't see real obstacle here. Granted that the alternatives system
> should be extended to look for
> 
> $HOME/debian/alternatives
> 
> Before checking
> 
> /etc/laternatives
> 
> Perhaps I should file a wishlist for it.

Please don't, we already have several of those...

regards,
guillem


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Re: Bits from the stable release team

2006-06-15 Thread Florian Weimer
* Martin Zobel-Helas:

> After we got some basic overview of what had to be done, we decided to delay
> all kernel-related updates until r3. Otherwise we would have delayed r2 even
> more, as that kernel update requires a complete rebuild of the Debian
> Installer. Frans Pop is currently taking care of coordinating with
> debian-boot@ and debian-kernel@, together with Dann Frazier to get d-i
> rebuild with the new kernel.

By the way, what has happened to the propagation of stable security
updates to etch and sid in cases where the version number of the
security update is larger than that of the current version?  It does
not seem to happen anymore.


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Re: SQL Ledger and PostgreSQL: ID fault on create database

2006-06-15 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 10:12:32PM +0100, Chris Forsey wrote:
> Not sure if this is the right list, but unsure where to post as I need
> some guys with good debian experience

[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], for
starters.  This list is for development of Debian itself.

- Matt


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Re: SUMMARY -- Generic handling of WORD, EXCEL, FILE MANGER ...

2006-06-15 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 12:38:52PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> * Jari Aalto+usenet [Thu, Jun 15 2006, 01:31:49PM]:
> > x-word-processor
> > x-spreadsheet
> > x-file-manager
> > x-archiver
> > x-media-player  or "x-video-player"
> > x-media-editor  or "x-media-mastering"
> > x-music-player
> > x-music-editor  think "audacity" etc.
> 
> Allright, why is it called x-spreadsheet but not x-word, x-file,
> x-archive and x-media? Please be consistent about the naming; if you
> mean a spreadsheet processor, call it x-spreadsheet-processor (or
> -calculator).

Eh, what is a "spreadsheet processor"?  The name for this class of
programs was always "spreadsheet" even in the days of Lotus 1-2-3.
And, this name actually makes sense, as opposed to "word processor"
which is a remnant of the historic usage.

Just look up "word processor", "spreadsheet", "file manager" or
"archiver" in Wikipedia.  While not an authoritative source, it would
have a disambiguation from "word" to "word processor" or from "excel"
to "spreadsheet" if using the names of certain Microsoft products had
any wide use in the "industry".

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Re: please advise?

2006-06-15 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Thomas Bushnell BSG [Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:51:18 -0700]:

> Can someone take a look at #373797 and give advice?

I agree with the submitter, and I have always nodded when I've read
changelog entries describing changes like this.

The example the submitter mentions, though, is not the real concern. The
scenario where foo gets removed leaving foo-common behind it's much more
likely (any time a tool without "mark as autoinstalled" support is used).

Same deal with manpages.

(The above is of course my opinion, but it's what makes sense to me.)

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Re: severities of blocking bugs

2006-06-15 Thread Steve Greenland
On 14-Jun-06, 11:18 (CDT), Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> Many (most?) maintainers use the BTS severity state to manage their
> worklist.  That is, the severity is a largley a note to themselves as
> to which order to do things in or what priority to give them. 

So http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#severities is no longer valid
and should be removed?

I doubt you're actually contending that, and what you're describing is
often defacto what happens (one tends to start at the top of the bug
list and work down by severity), but the severities *do* have defined
meanings, and in general should be used as such.

Conceptually, "priority" is NOT the same as "severity"; adding a
"wishlist" feature that would benefit many may be of more value and
thus higher priority than a "normal" bug that affects only a few and is
easily worked around.

There are many reasons not to mess with bug priorities on others
packages, but "it screws up my todo list" is not one of them.

Steve
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Re: please advise?

2006-06-15 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.06.15.2351 +0200]:
> Can someone take a look at #373797 and give advice?

If the download crashed during an APT, the system is potentially
inconsistent, so it needs fixing before it can be expected to work
again.

Then again, nothing prevents me from just installing the -common
package.

Either the menu system should check the availability of commands
(which is non-trivial), or those .desktop files should really only
come with the commands.

What's the benefit anyway of having such a small file in the
arch:all package? I bet the total savings across all twelve
architectures is less than one or two kilobytes.

Just my 2¢...

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python2.3/2.4 installation failure (and workaround)

2006-06-15 Thread Matthias Klose
python2.3/python2.4 fails to install after today's dinstall run, due
to a brown paper bag bug on my side.  Please either set python-central
on hold (0.4.15) or install 0.4.17 from incoming
http://incoming.debian.org/python-central_0.4.17_all.deb  Thanks to
Kurt Roeckx for the pointer.  Sorry for the inconvenience.

  Matthias


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Re: x.org related question

2006-06-15 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout

On 6/15/06, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It's probably because the /usr/X11R6/man/man1 directory doesn't exist,
> should it?

Only if you install some package that contains it.  Since nothing else on
the system is using it anymore, this is a bug in fvwm1 for trying to create
a symlink in a directory it does not ship.


Aha, if you do a dpkg -L fvwm1 it doesn't list a /usr/X11R6 directory,
but the postinst definitely refers to it. Looks like a bug, I'll file
one in the morning...

Thank you very much.
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please advise?

2006-06-15 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG

Can someone take a look at #373797 and give advice?


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Re: x.org related question

2006-06-15 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Martijn,

On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 11:34:03PM +0200, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
> I just got around to upgrading to x.org in testing to see if it's
> better and see if the 3D support has improved. After much hassle, I
> got it, but I'm running into a problem with fvwm1.

> # dpkg --configure --pending
> Setting up fvwm1 (1.24r-50) ...
> update-alternatives: unable to make
> /usr/X11R6/man/man1/fvwm.1.gz.dpkg-tmp a symlink to
> /etc/alternatives/fvwm.1.gz: No such file or directory
> dpkg: error processing fvwm1 (--configure):
> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
> Errors were encountered while processing:
> fvwm1

> It's probably because the /usr/X11R6/man/man1 directory doesn't exist,
> should it?

Only if you install some package that contains it.  Since nothing else on
the system is using it anymore, this is a bug in fvwm1 for trying to create
a symlink in a directory it does not ship.

> You see, during the upgrade x11-common bailed out complaining that
> /usr/X11R6/bin wasn't empty. At the moment in /usr/X11R6 I have a
> symlink for bin but include, lib and man are real directories. Should
> they be? I can't find an answer.

Yes, lib/ and man/ should be real directories.

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x.org related question

2006-06-15 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout

I just got around to upgrading to x.org in testing to see if it's
better and see if the 3D support has improved. After much hassle, I
got it, but I'm running into a problem with fvwm1.

# dpkg --configure --pending
Setting up fvwm1 (1.24r-50) ...
update-alternatives: unable to make
/usr/X11R6/man/man1/fvwm.1.gz.dpkg-tmp a symlink to
/etc/alternatives/fvwm.1.gz: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing fvwm1 (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
fvwm1

It's probably because the /usr/X11R6/man/man1 directory doesn't exist,
should it?

You see, during the upgrade x11-common bailed out complaining that
/usr/X11R6/bin wasn't empty. At the moment in /usr/X11R6 I have a
symlink for bin but include, lib and man are real directories. Should
they be? I can't find an answer.

x11-common bailing out is very uncool btw. Letting me drop to a shell
would have been better than leaving me with a system full of half
configured packages. Even giving me the option to fix the issue in
another screen would've been better. It was one lousy symlink from
netscape-base-4 holding up the entire process.
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SQL Ledger and PostgreSQL: ID fault on create database

2006-06-15 Thread Chris Forsey








Not sure if this is the right list, but unsure where to post
as I need some guys with good debian experience

 

System setup and versions.

 

New install of Debian Stable with the following installed.
All are the latest releases compiled from source with dependency requirements
fulfilled and all make errors fixed.

 

Apache Server 2.2.2

Postgresql 8.1.4

Readline 5.1

Zlib 1.2.3

Openssl 0.9.8b

SQL-ledger 2.6.12

DBD-Pg-1.49

DBI-1.5.1

Mod_perl-2.0.2

Perl 5.8

 

Everything “seems” to be running ok. Only
problem is when creating a dataset in sql ledger  I keep getting the error

 

Error!

 

Create sequence id start 1

Error: relation “id” already exists 

 

Searched the web and found this article. http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg195151.html
checked instructions within but to no avail.

 

The postsgre template 1 has been recreated and the language
is already installed. PGadmin3 confirms the database is created and language is
correct. SQL-ledger sort of creates the new database behind the error but does
not propagate it with anything.

 

Unsure where to go now to fix this problem. We need the
latest release of postgreSQL and SQL-Ledger for our project.

 

Any help or guidance will be gratefully received.

 

Chris



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Re: Move to python 2.4 / Changing the packaging style for python packages

2006-06-15 Thread Matthias Klose
Mike Hommey writes:
> On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 10:09:15AM +0200, Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > Mike Hommey writes:
> > > Anyways, there would be a problem with python native extensions linked
> > > against libpython. They would get the shlib dependencies on python2.x
> > > packages.
> > 
> > So at least we can find these and fix them.
> 
> What is so wrong about linking to libpython ? Is that because the
> interpreter isn't linked against the lib ?

Most likely this comes from the Windows world, where the extensions
are required to link against pythonXX.dll.  Looking at the code for
extensions like in sqlrelay or graphviz I don't see any need that the
extension is linked against the python library.

  Matthias


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Bug#373824: RFH: ntp -- Network Time Protocol: network utilities

2006-06-15 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Package: wnpp
Severity: normal

We could use a few more people to help with the ntp package.  We have a
new mailing list and a subversion repository hosted under the pkg-ntp
project on alioth.  There is a boatload of bugs to deal with, most of
which are not that hard but need someone with a little time and
dedication to evaluate them.

The package description is:
 NTP, the Network Time Protocol, is used to keep computer clocks accurate
 over the Internet, or by following an accurate hardware receiver which
 interprets GPS, DCF-77, NIST or similar time signals.
 .
 This package contains control programs which can access a remote NTP
 server.  Thus you will need either ntp-simple or ntp-refclock;
 ntp-refclock includes drivers for radio clocks.
 .
 For more information about the NTP protocol / NTP server configuration
 and operation, load the optional Debian package 'ntp-doc'.


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Re: Why isn't gnome in testing?

2006-06-15 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 10:18:57AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Julian Gilbey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060614 10:54]:
> > On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 10:32:36PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > > * Julian Gilbey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060511 22:17]:
> > > > Does anyone know why the binary package gnome is no longer in testing?
> > > > The source package meta-gnome2 is there
> > > 
> > > Seems like an accident currently. We're researching the matter.
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > Andi
> > 
> > It's still not in testing.
> 
> fixed.
> 
> Cheers,
> Andi

Yay, great thanks!

   Julian


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Re: FTWCA Policy Section 7.6 (Build-Depends/Build-Depends-Indep)

2006-06-15 Thread Andreas Metzler
Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Section 7.6[1] is an often misunderstood/forgotten part of the Policy
> that explains how Build-Depends and Build-Depends-Indep are used to
> build a package. Here is almost a copy&paste:

>   The dependencies and conflicts they define must be satisfied
>   in order to invoke the targets in debian/rules, as follows:

>   The Build-Depends and Build-Conflicts fields must be satisfied
>   when any of the following targets is invoked:
>  build, clean, binary, binary-arch, build-arch,
>  build-indep, binary-indep.·

>   The Build-Depends-Indep and Build-Conflicts-Indep fields
>   must be satisfied when any of the following targets is invoked:
>  build, build-indep, binary and binary-indep.
[...]

Which basically means that Build-Depends-Indep lists *additional*
packages that are needed for dpkg-buildpackage but _not_ for
"dpkg-buildpackage -B".
   cu andreas


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FTWCA Policy Section 7.6 (Build-Depends/Build-Depends-Indep)

2006-06-15 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Dear fellow developers,


  Section 7.6[1] is an often misunderstood/forgotten part of the Policy
that explains how Build-Depends and Build-Depends-Indep are used to
build a package. Here is almost a copy&paste:

   The dependencies and conflicts they define must be satisfied
   in order to invoke the targets in debian/rules, as follows:

   The Build-Depends and Build-Conflicts fields must be satisfied
   when any of the following targets is invoked:
  build, clean, binary, binary-arch, build-arch,
  build-indep, binary-indep.·

   The Build-Depends-Indep and Build-Conflicts-Indep fields
   must be satisfied when any of the following targets is invoked:
  build, build-indep, binary and binary-indep.


  In particular, it means that having cdbs, yada, dbs, dh-make-php and
other packaging helpers that are included from your debian/rules in
B-D-I is wrong, and that having debhelper in B-D-I is wrong as soon as
you use dh_clean in your clean target.

  Such issues generally trigger FTBFSes as soon as the source generates
one arch:any package. Though, as autobuilders do not rebuild source
packages that only build arch:all binary packages, a lot of them are
missed. In fact, it breaks pbuilder[2] and some other autobuilding
tools.


  I've listed all the packages that list dbs, cdbs, dh-make-php,
debhelper, yada, dpatch or quilt in their Build-Depends-Indep, and ...
2106 source packages are affected, which rules out any mass bug filing.
I've instead setup a dynamic (regenerated once a day) list of the
packages with this bug on people.d.o[3]. Also note that most of those
problems are already reported by lintian (at least for the usual patch
helpers, debhelper and cdbs).

Greetings,


 [1] http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-sourcebinarydeps

 [2] pbuilder asks you to install Build-Depends if you miss them, but do
 not ask for B-D-I (and it *is* the right behaviour), and then
 builds can fail.

 [3] http://people.debian.org/~madcoder/policy_7.6_violation.txt

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Re: SUMMARY -- Generic handling of WORD, EXCEL, FILE MANGER ...

2006-06-15 Thread Jari Aalto+mail.linux
* Thu 2006-06-15 Bernhard Link 
* Message-Id: 20060615123501.GA11774 AT login.informatik.uni-freiburg.de
> * Jari Aalto+usenet  [060615 12:32]:
>> The features would be those proposed at the beginning. Examples:
>> 
>> x-mime-handler --run x-file-manager /home/foo
>> x-mime-handler --run x-spreadsheet this.xls
>
> What is wrong with:
>
> run-mailcap  --action=view application/vnd.ms-excel:this.xls
>
> or shorter:
>
> see application/vnd.ms-excel:this.xls
>
> or even shorten (if its type can be detected automatically correctly and
> one has no other information:)
>
> see this.xls

Good. I just wasn't familiar with run-mailcap's capabilities. I'll
update the proposal after comments.

Jari


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Re: some Debian Apache Maintainer here ?

2006-06-15 Thread Adrian von Bidder
Marc cc:ed, not sure if you're on the list.

On Thursday 15 June 2006 16:06, Marc Chantreux wrote:
> I've posted a patch to fix #350119, #342008, #350119 139 days ago and
> have no news about it. I tried to contact the apache team to know if i
> was able to help  but i have no news.

There is the debian-apache mailing list.  I don't ee much life there, 
though, except for bts email.

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Re: SUMMARY -- Generic handling of WORD, EXCEL, FILE MANGER ...

2006-06-15 Thread Benjamin Seidenberg
Jari Aalto+usenet wrote:

[]

> Where items proposed for graphical programs could include:
> x-word-processor
> x-spreadsheet
> x-file-manager
> x-archiver
> x-media-player  or "x-video-player"
> x-media-editor  or "x-media-mastering"
> x-music-player
> x-music-editor  think "audacity" etc.
>
>   
x-audio-editor, it's not just for music. I think of music editor as
moving notes around on a score.



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Re: some Debian Apache Maintainer here ?

2006-06-15 Thread Marc Chantreux
Olaf,


> >I still apply my patch on every server i install, this is boring me.
> >
> >Is there a way to help/join/"have news from" the apache team ?
> 
> Try irc://irc.debian.org/debian-apache
> Unfortunately, a more informative answer than it's fixed when it's
> fixed shouldn't be expected.

thanks for your answer. In fact, the question i want to ask to them
isn't "when will you fix ?"  but "can i do better ? can i help to fix
?".

I hope the answer will be more informative.


regards
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Re: some Debian Apache Maintainer here ?

2006-06-15 Thread Olaf van der Spek

On 6/15/06, Marc Chantreux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi all,

I've posted a patch to fix #350119, #342008, #350119 139 days ago and
have no news about it. I tried to contact the apache team to know if i
was able to help  but i have no news.

I still apply my patch on every server i install, this is boring me.

Is there a way to help/join/"have news from" the apache team ?


Try irc://irc.debian.org/debian-apache
Unfortunately, a more informative answer than it's fixed when it's
fixed shouldn't be expected.


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some Debian Apache Maintainer here ?

2006-06-15 Thread Marc Chantreux
Hi all, 

I've posted a patch to fix #350119, #342008, #350119 139 days ago and
have no news about it. I tried to contact the apache team to know if i
was able to help  but i have no news.

I still apply my patch on every server i install, this is boring me.

Is there a way to help/join/"have news from" the apache team ? 

regards.

mc

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Re: SUMMARY -- Generic handling of WORD, EXCEL, FILE MANGER ...

2006-06-15 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Jari Aalto+usenet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060615 12:32]:
> (2) Another proposed solution was to use existing MIME types
> framework in /etc/mime.types, /etc/mailcap.order and /etc/mailcap.
> It tackles the proposal like this:
> 
> application/msword; oowriter '%s'; edit=oowriter '%s'; ...
> application/msexcel; oocalc '%s'; edit=oocalc '%s';...
>[...]
> 
> (2) There would also be need for standard features to call common
> "actions". There is no need for end user to know the names of mime
> types.
> 
> x-mime-handler --run FEATURE [ARGS]
> 
> The features would be those proposed at the beginning. Examples:
> 
> x-mime-handler --run x-file-manager /home/foo
> x-mime-handler --run x-spreadsheet this.xls

What is wrong with:

run-mailcap  --action=view application/vnd.ms-excel:this.xls

or shorter:

see application/vnd.ms-excel:this.xls

or even shorten (if its type can be detected automatically correctly and
one has no other information:)

see this.xls

(All available in the mime-support packages and already used for this
 purpose by a variety of packages.)

Hochachtungsvoll,
  Bernhard R. Link


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Re: SUMMARY -- Generic handling of WORD, EXCEL, FILE MANGER ...

2006-06-15 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include 
* Jari Aalto+usenet [Thu, Jun 15 2006, 01:31:49PM]:
> 
> -- This is summary of thread:
> -- Subject: Bug#363486: dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, 
> EXCEL ...
> 
> Please comment. --Jari

> Where items proposed for graphical programs could include:
> 
> x-word-processor
> x-spreadsheet
> x-file-manager
> x-archiver
> x-media-player  or "x-video-player"
> x-media-editor  or "x-media-mastering"
> x-music-player
> x-music-editor  think "audacity" etc.

Allright, why is it called x-spreadsheet but not x-word, x-file,
x-archive and x-media? Please be consistent about the naming; if you
mean a spreadsheet processor, call it x-spreadsheet-processor (or
-calculator).

Eduard.


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SUMMARY -- Generic handling of WORD, EXCEL, FILE MANGER ...

2006-06-15 Thread Jari Aalto+usenet

-- This is summary of thread:
-- Subject: Bug#363486: dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, 
EXCEL ...

Please comment. --Jari

THE INTENTION

There are many programs that can act on a file if it contains
certain extension. The use of program names like 'konqueror', 'xfe'
is not optimal. It would be better if common actions could be
expressed through terms of "File Manager", "Spreadsheet" etc.

This would help e.g. to provide better defaults for graphical
programs that include features like: "Options => Preferences =>
Programs" having line:

Edit __ (fill program name)

Filling in 'xedit' is not good default, when user must change this
same "setting" is other installed GUI programs as well.

PROPOSED SOLUTIONS

(1) It was discussed if /etc/alternatives could be used by providing
configuration possiblitity through

update-alternatives --config 

Where items proposed for graphical programs could include:

x-word-processor
x-spreadsheet
x-file-manager
x-archiver
x-media-player  or "x-video-player"
x-media-editor  or "x-media-mastering"
x-music-player
x-music-editor  think "audacity" etc.

This list is not comprehensive, only a start.

(2) Another proposed solution was to use existing MIME types
framework in /etc/mime.types, /etc/mailcap.order and /etc/mailcap.
It tackles the proposal like this:

application/msword; oowriter '%s'; edit=oowriter '%s'; ...
application/msexcel; oocalc '%s'; edit=oocalc '%s';...

CONCLUSIONS

Method (1) has drawbacks. Only adminstrator can update the
alternatives links, so individual users would not have control
over selected programs.

Method (2) supports user configurations through personal
mime type files in $HOME/.mailcap and thus better suitable.

REQUIRED WORK

(1) In order to carry on this proposal, there is need to write
a wrapper program that would use `run-mailcap'. The program
would use syntax:

x-mime-handler --mime TYPE [--action ACTION]

Where ACTION could be those defined in /etc/mime.types
[FIXME: If I understood correctly]

run (implicit if not given), edit, compose, print

An example call

x-mime-handler --mime application/msword --action run

Error handling would be based on return status

(2) There would also be need for standard features to call common
"actions". There is no need for end user to know the names of mime
types.

x-mime-handler --run FEATURE [ARGS]

The features would be those proposed at the beginning. Examples:

x-mime-handler --run x-file-manager /home/foo
x-mime-handler --run x-spreadsheet this.xls

BENEFITS

There are many graphical programs that contain setting that are
shipped with packages.

- These would all now have sensible defaults. E.g to run "editor".

There are many non-desktop window managers (not KDE, Gnome, XFCE),
that have simple menu structures. The menus call simple "programs".

- All those window managers could now have menu entries like
  "File manager" and use the program `x-mime-handler'.

PROBLEMS

The mime types are based on WWW protocol, which does not
necessarily map to local actions. Editing videos or mastering DVDs
are not expressed through MIME types (FIXE: If I undertand
right).

However, the possibility to use

x-mime-handler --run FEATURE

poses no such resstrictions and can run any defined FEATURES that
cannot be expressed through mime types. QUESTION: What about
user preferences in these cases when MIME types are not used?

QUESTION: this might be possible through MIME types by defining
custom actions.



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Re: Cleaning /var/lib/dpkg/available

2006-06-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Wednesday 14 June 2006 14:34, Jérôme Warnier wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've been upgrading my machines since Woody to Sarge, then to Etch. Now,
>> my /var/lib/dpkg/available are huge (15MB), and it seems they never get
>> cleaned.
>> How am I supposed to clean them? Isn't there any automated tools in
>> Debian to do that?
>
> In case you are interested to clear your /var/lib/dpkg/status, here is what I 
> use sometimes. For instance, if you want to purge package section with 
> 'Status: purge ok not-installed', ./this_script > /tmp/status.cleated, and 
> then see what have been removed from it diff'ing against your 
> current /var/lib/dpkg/status. Remember to make a backup before actually 
> replacing the file ;-)
>
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl
>
> use warnings;
> use strict;
>
> my $filename='/var/lib/dpkg/status';
>
> open FILE, $filename or
> die "Failed to open $filename\n";
>
> while (my $line=) {
>
> chomp($line);
> my @section=();
>
> while ($line ne "") {
> push(@section,$line);
> $line=;
> chomp($line);
> }
>
> if ($section[1] ne 'Status: purge ok not-installed') {
>
> foreach (@section) {
> $_ = $_ . "\n";
> print;
> }
>
> print"\n";
> }
> }

grep-dctrl -F Status "purge ok not-installed" status
mv status status.old
grep-dctrl -v -F Status "purge ok not-installed" status.old >status

MfG
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Re: Bug#373571: ITP: mugshot -- Client for integration between Mugshot and the Linux desktop

2006-06-15 Thread Heikki Henriksen
tor, 15,.06.2006 kl. 05.29 -0400, skrev Kevin Mark:
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 12:39:42PM +0200, Heikki Henriksen wrote:
> >   Package name: mugshot
> >   Description : Client for integration between Mugshot and the Linux 
> > desktop
> > Note: 
> > I don't plan to upload this until the trial has expanded
> > significantly or the project has been opened up for everyone.
> when you say 'upload', does that imply 'unstable'. What about experimental?

That depends on how long it'll be before we find a solution on the
current trademark-restrictions. 'upload' in my sentence implied
unstable, but I might put it in experimental first (if I find it
uploadable before the trial-period is over)

For now, my package can be found at:
http://media.heitech.no/debian/build/mugshot/ 

Cheers :)
 Heikki



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Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-15 Thread George Danchev
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 03:58, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On 13 Jun 2006, George Danchev said:
> > On Saturday 10 June 2006 15:57, Marc Dequènes wrote:
> > --cut--
> >
> >> Until this is solved, i'm still maintaining my original version,
> >> since more people use it than the one in the package, but this is
> >> not an ideal situation.
> >
> > Ok, time to ask a real question about cdbs ;-) I assume you are
> > pretty much familiar with it and its strengths and weaknesses, hence
> > my little problem follows:
> >
> > my debian/rules (in which I have my self-written target, no it is
> > not supported by cdbs yet)
>
> I do not think your make file does what you think it does. It
>  replaces, instead of enhancing, the single colon rule that CDBS
>  uses.

Absolutely right. This has nothing to do with CDBS features, the fault 
is 
mine.

> > * what couses that, and how to escape that annoying warn ?
>
> common-configure-arch common-configure-indep:: myowntarget
>
> myowntarget:
> ./configure --prefix=/usr
> touch debian/stamp-autotools-files

I really failed to suspect the single/double colon dependencies! In 
fact, in 
my second thoughts and after digging for a while into rules and class CDBS 
makefiles I realized that it is enough to have just debhelper.mk and 
autotools.mk included in my debian/rules file and have all the common things 
I need. Then I added my own and unique (phony) targets to enhance what I 
already have inherited from cdbs. That is what I think I need - the common 
things should be implemented by a common pile of code, and my part stays 
really mine, isolated and being added next to that.

Thanks for the comprehensive make lecture, it was pretty refreshing, at 
least 
for me.

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Re: Bug#373571: ITP: mugshot -- Client for integration between Mugshot and the Linux desktop

2006-06-15 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 12:39:42PM +0200, Heikki Henriksen wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Heikki Henriksen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>   Package name: mugshot
>   Version : 1.1.5
>   Upstream Author : Mugshot Developers (http://developer.mugshot.org/)
>   URL : http://mugshot.org
>   License : GPL-2 & Mugshot Client License Agreement
>   Programming Lang: C
>   Description : Client for integration between Mugshot and the Linux 
> desktop
> Note: 
> I don't plan to upload this until the trial has expanded
> significantly or the project has been opened up for everyone.
Hi,
when you say 'upload', does that imply 'unstable'. What about experimental?
Cheers,
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Re: Why isn't gnome in testing?

2006-06-15 Thread Andreas Barth
* Julian Gilbey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060614 10:54]:
> On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 10:32:36PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > * Julian Gilbey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060511 22:17]:
> > > Does anyone know why the binary package gnome is no longer in testing?
> > > The source package meta-gnome2 is there
> > 
> > Seems like an accident currently. We're researching the matter.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Andi
> 
> It's still not in testing.

fixed.

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Re: Cleaning /var/lib/dpkg/available

2006-06-15 Thread George Danchev
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 14:34, Jérôme Warnier wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've been upgrading my machines since Woody to Sarge, then to Etch. Now,
> my /var/lib/dpkg/available are huge (15MB), and it seems they never get
> cleaned.
> How am I supposed to clean them? Isn't there any automated tools in
> Debian to do that?

In case you are interested to clear your /var/lib/dpkg/status, here is what I 
use sometimes. For instance, if you want to purge package section with 
'Status: purge ok not-installed', ./this_script > /tmp/status.cleated, and 
then see what have been removed from it diff'ing against your 
current /var/lib/dpkg/status. Remember to make a backup before actually 
replacing the file ;-)


#!/usr/bin/perl

use warnings;
use strict;

my $filename='/var/lib/dpkg/status';

open FILE, $filename or
die "Failed to open $filename\n";

while (my $line=) {

chomp($line);
my @section=();

while ($line ne "") {
push(@section,$line);
$line=;
chomp($line);
}

if ($section[1] ne 'Status: purge ok not-installed') {

foreach (@section) {
$_ = $_ . "\n";
print;
}

print"\n";
}
}

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