Work-needing packages report for Nov 7, 2008
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 489 (new: 2) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 118 (new: 1) Total number of packages requested help for: 48 (new: 0) Please refer to http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ for more information. The following packages have been orphaned: libfile-counterfile-perl (#504263), orphaned 4 days ago Description: Persistent counter class for Perl Installations reported by Popcon: 59 liblog-loglite-perl (#504265), orphaned 4 days ago Description: lightweight logging Installations reported by Popcon: 53 487 older packages have been omitted from this listing, see http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/orphaned for a complete list. The following packages have been given up for adoption: gputils (#504473), offered 2 days ago Description: GNU PIC utilities Reverse Depends: gputils Installations reported by Popcon: 837 117 older packages have been omitted from this listing, see http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/rfa_bypackage for a complete list. For the following packages help is requested: apache2 (#470795), requested 238 days ago Description: Co-maintainer wanted Reverse Depends: achims-guestbook ampache apache2 apache2-dbg apache2-mpm-event apache2-mpm-itk apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-mpm-worker apache2-prefork-dev apache2-suexec (154 more omitted) Installations reported by Popcon: 40261 ara (#450876), requested 361 days ago Description: utility for searching the Debian package database Installations reported by Popcon: 124 athcool (#278442), requested 1472 days ago Description: Enable powersaving mode for Athlon/Duron processors Installations reported by Popcon: 227 bash-completion (#472468), requested 227 days ago Description: programmable completion for the bash shell Installations reported by Popcon: 18378 cvs (#354176), requested 987 days ago Description: Concurrent Versions System Reverse Depends: crossvc cvs-autoreleasedeb cvs-buildpackage cvs2cl cvs2html cvschangelogbuilder cvsconnect cvsd cvsdelta cvsps (12 more omitted) Installations reported by Popcon: 22405 dctrl-tools (#448284), requested 376 days ago Description: Command-line tools to process Debian package information Reverse Depends: aptfs debian-goodies dlocate feta haskell-devscripts hg-buildpackage ia32-archive ia32-libs-tools mlmmj sbuild (1 more omitted) Installations reported by Popcon: 9210 dpkg (#282283), requested 1447 days ago Description: dselect: a user tool to manage Debian packages Reverse Depends: alien alsa-source apt-build apt-cross apt-src backuppc build-essential bzr-builddeb cacao-oj6-dbg cacao-oj6-jdk (118 more omitted) Installations reported by Popcon: 79745 drscheme (#402589), requested 696 days ago Description: PLT scheme programming environment Reverse Depends: drscheme minlog proofgeneral-minlog Installations reported by Popcon: 357 elvis (#432298), requested 486 days ago Description: powerful clone of the vi/ex text editor (with X11 support) Reverse Depends: elvis elvis-console elvis-tools Installations reported by Popcon: 385 fglrx-driver (#454993), requested 334 days ago (non-free) Description: non-free AMD/ATI r5xx, r6xx display driver Reverse Depends: fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-atieventsd fglrx-control fglrx-driver fglrx-glx fglrx-glx-ia32 fglrx-kernel-src Installations reported by Popcon: 2192 flightgear (#487388), requested 138 days ago Description: Flight Gear Flight Simulator Installations reported by Popcon: 942 gentoo (#422498), requested 550 days ago Description: a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager Installations reported by Popcon: 277 gnat-4.3 (#475374), requested 210 days ago Description: help needed to execute test cases Reverse Depends: adabrowse adacontrol asis-programs ghdl gnade-bin gnat gnat-4.3 gnat-gps libadasockets-dev libahven13 (45 more omitted) Installations reported by Popcon: 554 gnat-gps (#496905), requested 70 days ago Description: co-maintainer needed Installations reported by Popcon: 112 grub (#248397), requested 1641 days ago Description: GRand Unified Bootloader Reverse Depends: brdesktop-artwork-grub dfsbuild grub-choose-default grub-doc replicator startupmanager Installations reported by Popcon: 73119 hotkey-setup (#483107), requested 164 days ago Description: au
Re: DFSG violations: non-free but no contrib
Manoj Srivastava wrote: But there is less pressure on the author, since they are getting paid, since people who want to run debian hassle free will by their hardware anyway. I think that the same argument would have helpd for including netscape in main as Alex Yukhimets was arguing back in '97. There might be short term gain in popularity by letting the line shift on freedom (heck, windows still is the dominant OS for a reason). I think we need to be sure that the pressure is towards option C, and not from B to A. We might find vendors get the wrong message: "We want to able to to use your product with Debian out of the box", which swings them towards the "easier" option A (closed firmware distributed on ROM), not option C (open firmware with source). Brian May -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DFSG violations: non-free but no contrib
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 18:06 +, David Given wrote: > So having the source doesn't actually gain you anything --- you would > neither be able nor allowed to do anything with it, apart from printing > it on T-shirts. You can learn about it. Remember the educational purpose of free software? Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Call for testers: Gutenprint 5.2.1-2 in experimental
Hi folks, The new release of Gutenprint, 5.2.1, has been packaged and uploaded to unstable. However, I currently lack an inkjet printer in order to test it. If you have five minutes to install and test printing, I would be grateful for any feedback. Once Lenny has been released and any major bugs have been ironed out, this will be uploaded to experimental. Simply printing a test page from CUPS after installing the library and cups-driver-gutenprint package would be sufficient, though any more detailed testing would also be appreciated, e.g. of the gimp-gutenprint plugin or the ijs server driver ijsgutenprint with foomatic. If you used the old "canon" or "epson" CUPS backends to drive a parallel-, USB- or network socket-connected printer, these two backends were removed by upstream (obsolete). I added some logic to the cups-driver-gutenprint postinst to migrate to one of the "parallel", "usb",or "socket" backends where possible. However, the process isn't perfect because the USB device naming for the USB backend no longer allows plain device nodes, so these devices will require the queue to be manually modified, e.g. using the CUPS web interface or lpadmin. CUPS now supports fully internationalised PPD files, which will be created correctly only if the gutenprint-locales package is installed. Not all applications yet display the translations, however. You may just get English if the application does not look at the translations. Packages available here: http://packages.debian.org/source/experimental/gutenprint Suggested packages to install (in order): libgutenprint2 gutenprint-locales cups-driver-gutenprint The package sources are in git: git://git.debian.org/git/collab-maint/gutenprint Thanks, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: DFSG violations: non-free but no contrib
On Tue, Nov 04, 2008, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > It is better and more honest to our users to tell them, "that's not > ours and we cannot fix it. We cannot pledge to support it. Here it is, > it is a nice blob, but it is NOT ours, go bug your hardware > manufacturer for support". Ack. > It is not that I want Debian to ship a system with no hardware support > - But that I'd prefer it to be kept visibly separate. I fully agree. > And not because they are inherently evil or anything, but because > Debian is not the right place to distribute them from. See what I > wrote regarding the RFCs - I agree with the IETF, the RFCs server much > better their purpose being non-free than if they were DFSG-free. But > that's not a reason to bend Debian's principles and ship IETF RFCs in > main. I see your point. Albeit all the things we're talking about are quite different in nature. A wifi card needs to be usable to access the network even during an install, so if we want to support hardware which requires firmware to be loaded after each boot with the Debian OS, the file needs to be accessible to the Debian OS. I see how easy it is to define that "everything which Debian distributes is free software". I wish I'd have a rule as simple to claim which would make it clear that "this is a free OS which comes with some companion firmware files without source to make hardware just work". Anyway, there's too little traction to suggest changing our foundation documents in an unclear way, so I'll shut up. -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Upcoming events in Japan
Hi, This is a short note to tell you all about what kind of events are happening in Japan. Please tell me if there is a more suitable list or alias to send this to. 1. Kansai Open Source November 7-8 Osaka. Debian will have a booth, and a few sessions. http://k-of.jp/ 2. Tokyo Area Debian Meeting November 15 LaTeX / whizzytex hands-on. http://tokyodebian.alioth.debian.org/2008-11.html 3. Kansai debian Meeting December 14 Using LaTeX to produce resources. http://wiki.debian.org/KansaiDebianMeeting regards, junichi -- [EMAIL PROTECTED],debian.org} -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#504706: ITP: vdr-plugin-softdevice -- Software output device plugin for VDR.
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Onur Aslan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: vdr-plugin-softdevice Version : 0.5.0 * URL : http://softdevice.berlios.de/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : Software output device plugin for VDR. The softdevice plugin is a software device and MPEG-2 decoder and is used by VDR as an output device. The output comes to the monitor or TV-out of the graphics card. The plugin gets the video stream decodes, scales and converts it to the RGB format. -- System Information: Debian Release: lenny/sid APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: DFSG violations: non-free but no contrib
On Wed, Nov 05, 2008, Robert Collins wrote: > It may be that for that hardware Debian does not fit your desires. Can I > remind you of this little statement Please, don't quote the social contract on me. And I already expressed that I understood my position implied changes to foundation documents. > > Now if Debian can distribute a blob which allows my hardware to run as > > indicated by a clear interface with my free OS, that's good enough for > > me. > Why draw the line there? why not be happy if Debian can ship a blob that > uses the kernel's binary interfaces? There's no moral or technical > difference. I acknowledge it's hard to draw the line. One idea in this thread was "[ultimately] runs on the host's CPU". It's hard. > > > And if the answer reduces down to 'firmware is made by proprietary > > > vendors and does something many people need and we don't have a > > > replacement yet' - well thats fine, but at various points we didn't have > > > a free kernel, or a free libc, or a free graphic desktop environment. > > > > And we didn't have Debian or OpenMoko; and the glibc, linux, and > > Xorg/GNOME/KDE/Xfce are huge separate projects and we could start new > > projects to free more things up. > > Debian started in 1993; Linux was first released in 1991, glibc had its > core functional in 1988 > ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_C_Library#cite_note-1). KDE was > started in 1996, and GNOME in 1997. XFree86 forked around 1992, IIRC. > > We *had* Debian long before we had a free graphical desktop environment > [that really meets the term - a window many isn't enough :)] I still don't see your point. I hope you see mine that all these efforts are run as separate projects though. And the availability of new free software after the apparition of Debian isn't really an exciting argument. Would Debian have been possible without a free glibc and a free kernel? Should we make it harder for Debian to be useful because we don't have free firmware and hardware? > > Google.com is run with software I don't have access to > google doesn't affect the functionality of hardware you own. No, but what is debated here is whether I need to be able to change it. I can't change google's software, I might not be able to change the firmware's software depending on the hardware implementation (whether the firmware can be dynamically loaded) or on the availability of the firmware's source. Yet I can use google and my wifi card. What's possible is pretty clear at the time you buy the hardware and wont change over time, wont require relicensing. > > , but I use it > > daily, as well as my microwave > ECOMPLETELYUNRELATED Or my phone; this was to illustrate my point WRT to interfaces: I don't mind interfacing with something non-free when (there's no free replacement and) there's a clear interface. TBH I don't see enough new ideas or arguments in this thread anymore to justify proposing fundamental changes to our core documents, so I'll shut up. -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
