Work-needing packages report for Mar 7, 2014

2014-03-06 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested
through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the
last week.

Total number of orphaned packages: 561 (new: 5)
Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 142 (new: 5)
Total number of packages requested help for: 53 (new: 0)

Please refer to http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ for more information.



The following packages have been orphaned:

   fbset (#740580), orphaned 3 days ago
 Description: framebuffer device maintenance program
 Installations reported by Popcon: 1332

   ffe (#740921), orphaned today
 Description: Tool for parsing flat and CSV files and converting them
   to different formats
 Installations reported by Popcon: 69

   libtirpc (#740622), orphaned 3 days ago
 Description: transport-independent RPC library
 Reverse Depends: freebsd-nfs-common freebsd-nfs-server freebsd-utils
   granule libassa3.5-5-dev libtirpc-dev nfs-common nfs-kernel-server
   quota rpcbind
 Installations reported by Popcon: 103082

   log4cxx (#740507), orphaned 4 days ago
 Description: A logging library for C++
 Reverse Depends: liblog4cxx10-dev libroboptim-core-dev
   libroboptim-core2 libroboptim-core2-plugin-base solarpowerlog
   zookeeper-bin
 Installations reported by Popcon: 1801

   tbb (#740548), orphaned 4 days ago
 Description: parallelism library for C++ - runtime files
 Reverse Depends: clasp flexbar gringo libfeel++-dbg libfeel++-dev
   libmia-2.0-8 libmia-2.0-dev libopencv-calib3d2.4
   libopencv-contrib2.4 libopencv-core2.4 (24 more omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 29320

556 older packages have been omitted from this listing, see
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/orphaned for a complete list.



The following packages have been given up for adoption:

   abiword (#740678), offered 3 days ago
 Description: efficient, featureful word processor with collaboration
 Reverse Depends: abiword abiword-dbg abiword-plugin-grammar
   abiword-plugin-mathview gnome libabiword-3.0-dev
 Installations reported by Popcon: 8474

   pastescript (#740531), offered 4 days ago
 Description: serving web applications, creating file layouts for
   Python packages
 Reverse Depends: python-authkit python-keystone python-pastewebkit
   python-pylons
 Installations reported by Popcon: 953

   pastewebkit (#740533), offered 4 days ago
 Description: port/reimplementation of Webware WebKit in WSGI and
   Paste
 Installations reported by Popcon: 36

   python-tempita (#740534), offered 4 days ago
 Description: very small text templating language
 Reverse Depends: python-formalchemy python-migrate python-nova
   python-paste python-pylons python-weberror python3-paste
 Installations reported by Popcon: 1069

   x-tile (#740793), offered 2 days ago
 Description: tile selected windows in different ways
 Installations reported by Popcon: 156

137 older packages have been omitted from this listing, see
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/rfa_bypackage for a complete list.



For the following packages help is requested:

   apt-xapian-index (#567955), requested 1494 days ago
 Description: maintenance tools for a Xapian index of Debian packages
 Reverse Depends: ept-cache fuss-launcher goplay packagesearch
 Installations reported by Popcon: 79908

   athcool (#278442), requested 3418 days ago
 Description: Enable powersaving mode for Athlon/Duron processors
 Installations reported by Popcon: 56

   balsa (#642906), requested 893 days ago
 Description: An e-mail client for GNOME
 Reverse Depends: balsa-dbg
 Installations reported by Popcon: 813

   cardstories (#624100), requested 1046 days ago
 Description: Find out a card using a sentence made up by another
   player
 Installations reported by Popcon: 13

   chromium-browser (#583826), requested 1376 days ago
 Description: Chromium browser
 Reverse Depends: chromedriver chromium chromium-dbg chromium-l10n
   mozplugger
 Installations reported by Popcon: 25003

   cups (#532097), requested 1734 days ago
 Description: Common UNIX Printing System
 Reverse Depends: bluez-cups chromium cups cups-backend-bjnp
   cups-browsed cups-bsd cups-client cups-core-drivers cups-daemon
   cups-dbg (62 more omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 138218

   debtags (#567954), requested 1494 days ago
 Description: Enables support for package tags
 Reverse Depends: goplay packagesearch
 Installations reported by Popcon: 2460

   fbcat (#565156), requested 1513 days ago
 Description: framebuffer grabber
 Installations reported by Popcon: 15

Re: debian/copyright: how extensive ...

2014-03-06 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 13507 March 1977, Osamu Aoki wrote:

> When FTP master rejected previous upload rightfully, he had interesting
> message:
[...]
> He was not asking to list auto-generated files with permissive licenses.
[...]
> (These all are autotools generated special exception ones with slightly
> different wordings.)

Yes.

> Is there any rules in place written somewhere?

If one takes it all the way to the end, then each and every file ought
to be documented. This, however, is not realistic, especially not for
the class of files you listed. The more people do this, the better, but
we would have to reject 90% of all uploads if we enforce listings like this.

> I need a correct list so I can exclude them from debmake copyright check
> list.

There is no such thing as a "correct list".

> Also, not all files in archive come copyright/license text within the file.

Not all files CAN come with a license included in them. It is one of the
reasons why one (upstream) should include a file with the (C)/license
text prominently in the distribution. Than one can default to "files not
marked especially with a license follow that one" and revisit that idea
when there is reasonable doubt. (Say, multiple files with license text,
having lots of source files appearently imported, ...)

> There is no DEP-5 rules on what to do.

There is no way to have a clear rule.

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Re: Idea for apt-get : getting source code instead getting binaries

2014-03-06 Thread Octavio Alvarez
On 03/06/2014 07:33 AM, Solal Rastier wrote:
> Hello! I've an idea for a new apt-get package style :
> 
> Developer side :
> -The developer create a ./install script in the source code.
> -The install script executes all commands necessary for install the software. 
> Also, it getting dependancies, etc.
> -The developer create a tarball (.tar.bzip2) and rename the file name. 
> Instead of software.tar.bzip2 , that's software.deb
> -The developer distribute the software.deb
> 
> Apt-get side :
> -The apt-get tool download software.deb from the Debian repository.
> -The program is installed with dpkg
> 
> Dpkg side :
> -dpkg rename the software.deb software.tar.bzip2
> -tar uncompress the software.tar.bzip2
> -cd go into the "software" folder
> -./install execute install script

Uninstalling would be a pain and would *easily* leave my system (and
systems I support) in an inconsistent state and with a lot of leftovers
because of packagers that don't care about uninstalling properly.

This is something I like about Debian and dislike about Windows, by the way.

Bad idea.

Despite being a bad idea, I think it could be done by using the postinst
script, but nobody does it like this because it is very inconvenient.


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Re: Idea for apt-get : getting source code instead getting binaries

2014-03-06 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 06:58:41PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On 03/06/2014 05:01 PM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> > Script to do this attached; can I have my GSoC money now? :)
> 
> Homer: Can I have some money now?

BTW; just for context, I thought this message was to a soc-coordination
list (and idling making a joke, I didn't intend to slander our student's
work, they do great stuff, and I respect the crap out of everyone that
works in GSoC).

> On a more serious side note, I think OP's point was to promote a package
> format where the upstream developer already does all the work and create
> a Debian package on the fly which could simply be dropped into the
> archives ready to install. Even when the package wasn't in Debian in
> the first place, which is the main assumption of your script, Paule.

Yeah, well, I was just showing that this is feasible with a properly
defined source package in the archive, even without any built debs. This
script was just snark (and has two big bugs, at least)

> However, this shifts the responsibility for the QA of a package from
> Debian towards upstream which will probably end in fear and loathing
> in the archives in no time.

Yep.

> Turning an upstream source into a working Debian package isn't really
> time-consuming and difficult for most cases. However, creating a well-
> maintainable and (lintian-)clean package into Debian isn't and takes
> lots of care and attention by a dedicated Debian Maintainer which knows
> the in and outs of Debian, its Policy and its powerful tools.

The proposed idea was basically as much effort as properly debianizing
the package.

> Cheers,
> 
> Adrian
> 
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Re: Using docker for Debian packaging work ?

2014-03-06 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
I'd be interested in a few things - a Debian index which I can trust
(images) - I'm keen
to help add OpenPGP to Docker upstream. I'd also love it if dbuilder (or
whatever)
could tag layers with build-deps installed (tagging something like
foobar:1.2.3-1),
so that building the package wouldn't have to install the b-d's each time -
and since
they're defined in terms of the Debian layer in the Dockerfile, we can keep
each
image super small.


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Olivier Berger <
olivier.ber...@telecom-sudparis.eu> wrote:

> Hi.
>
> I've been investigating the use of Docker containers on Debian
> (resulting in the creation of a few wiki pages [0]), and intend to use
> them more for Debian related tasks. Btw, thanks a lot for the packaging
> of docker and other guides already available around (I tried to collect
> what I spotted in the Wiki).
>
> I'm wondering if there are some bits of docs you would like to share if
> you're using docker regularly for Debian maintenance.
>
> I'm curious if anyone investigated the use of docker for git-pbuilder,
> fonr instance. Not that I'm sure there would be benefits compared to
> other current backends of git-pbuilder. I'm pretty sure that some may
> find a limitation in that Docker only supports building for amd64 over
> an amd64 system, currently.
>
> May I suggest to add more links / pages, starting from
> https://wiki.debian.org/PackagingWithDocker ?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Best regards,
>
> [0] see https://wiki.debian.org/Docker for an index
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Re: Idea for apt-get : getting source code instead getting binaries

2014-03-06 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
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On 03/06/2014 05:01 PM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> Script to do this attached; can I have my GSoC money now? :)

Comic Book Guy: I'm interested in upgrading my 28.8k modem to a
fibre-optic T1 line. Will you be able to provide
an interface which is compatible with my Token
Ring network setup?

Homer: Can I have some money now?

On a more serious side note, I think OP's point was to promote a package
format where the upstream developer already does all the work and create
a Debian package on the fly which could simply be dropped into the
archives ready to install. Even when the package wasn't in Debian in
the first place, which is the main assumption of your script, Paule.

However, this shifts the responsibility for the QA of a package from
Debian towards upstream which will probably end in fear and loathing
in the archives in no time.

Turning an upstream source into a working Debian package isn't really
time-consuming and difficult for most cases. However, creating a well-
maintainable and (lintian-)clean package into Debian isn't and takes
lots of care and attention by a dedicated Debian Maintainer which knows
the in and outs of Debian, its Policy and its powerful tools.

Cheers,

Adrian

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Using docker for Debian packaging work ?

2014-03-06 Thread Olivier Berger
Hi.

I've been investigating the use of Docker containers on Debian
(resulting in the creation of a few wiki pages [0]), and intend to use
them more for Debian related tasks. Btw, thanks a lot for the packaging
of docker and other guides already available around (I tried to collect
what I spotted in the Wiki).

I'm wondering if there are some bits of docs you would like to share if
you're using docker regularly for Debian maintenance.

I'm curious if anyone investigated the use of docker for git-pbuilder,
fonr instance. Not that I'm sure there would be benefits compared to
other current backends of git-pbuilder. I'm pretty sure that some may
find a limitation in that Docker only supports building for amd64 over
an amd64 system, currently.

May I suggest to add more links / pages, starting from
https://wiki.debian.org/PackagingWithDocker ?

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,

[0] see https://wiki.debian.org/Docker for an index
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Re: RSA vs ECDSA (Was: Bits from keyring-maint: Pushing keyring updates. Let us bury your old 1024D key!)

2014-03-06 Thread Ian Jackson
Helmut Grohne writes ("Re: RSA vs ECDSA (Was: Bits from keyring-maint: Pushing 
keyring updates. Let us bury your old 1024D key!)"):
> ECDSA is a DSA algorithm and therefore relies on the creation of secure
> random numbers. It has this problem, that if you happen to choose the
> same number for two signatures, your private key is broken. With RSA it
> is harder to accidentally disclose your private key by using bad random
> numbers for signatures. As far as I can tell a malicious random number
> generator is part of our threat model now. Bernstein addresses this
> issue in EdDSA.

I don't understand why everyone isn't using deterministic signatures
for DSA.  Instead of trying to use a fresh random number for the
random input into the signature scheme, you (speaking loosely) hash
the message and the private key together.  Done right, this completely
eliminates this potential weakness.

See RFC6979 for a detailed specification.  I think all DSA and ECDSA
signature generation code in Debian should be altered to use a
deterministic DSA variant.  (Unless we have something that relies on
the covert channel or randomness of signatures, which seems unlikely.)

We should use the procedure in RFC6979 exactly unless there is a
compelling reason to use something else.

Ian.


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Bug#740957: ITP: libjs-jquery-coolfieldset -- jQuery Plugin for creating collapsible fieldset

2014-03-06 Thread Francois-Regis Vuillemin
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Francois-Regis Vuillemin" 

* Package name: libjs-jquery-coolfieldset
  Version : 1.0.0
  Upstream Author : Luc Ky  
* URL : http://w3shaman.com/article/jquery-plugin-collapsible-
fieldset
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: javascript
  Description : jQuery Plugin for creating collapsible fieldset

 This plugin can collapsed or hide fieldset and it's content by clicking it's
 legend. You can also decide the initial state for your fieldset wheter it's
 expanded or collapsed. The separated CSS file will also useful if you need
 to modify the fieldset appearance.

This lib is embeded by sourceforge, so according to debian policy 4.13 it
should be packaged separately.


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Re: Idea for apt-get : getting source code instead getting binaries

2014-03-06 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 04:33:50PM +0100, Solal Rastier wrote:
> Hello! I've an idea for a new apt-get package style :
> 
> Developer side :
> -The developer create a ./install script in the source code.
> -The install script executes all commands necessary for install the software. 
> Also, it getting dependancies, etc.
> -The developer create a tarball (.tar.bzip2) and rename the file name. 
> Instead of software.tar.bzip2 , that's software.deb
> -The developer distribute the software.deb
> 
> Apt-get side :
> -The apt-get tool download software.deb from the Debian repository.
> -The program is installed with dpkg
> 
> Dpkg side :
> -dpkg rename the software.deb software.tar.bzip2
> -tar uncompress the software.tar.bzip2
> -cd go into the "software" folder
> -./install execute install script

Script to do this attached; can I have my GSoC money now? :)

Cheers,
  Paul

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#!/bin/bash

PACKAGE=$1
WORKDIR=$(mktemp -d)
pushd ${WORKDIR} >/dev/null

apt-get build-dep ${PACKAGE}
apt-get source --build ${PACKAGE}
dpkg -i *deb


popd ${WORKDIR} >/dev/null


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Re: Bug#740946: ITP: libsub-recursive-perl -- anonymous memory leak free recursive subroutines

2014-03-06 Thread Dominique Dumont
On Thursday 06 March 2014 14:32:00 Peter Roberts wrote:
> * License : GPL

Note that the upstream license in same as Perl [1] 

All the best

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Re: Idea for apt-get : getting source code instead getting binaries

2014-03-06 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Solal Rastier  wrote:
> Hello! I've an idea for a new apt-get package style :
>
> Developer side :
> -The developer create a ./install script in the source code.
> -The install script executes all commands necessary for install the software. 
> Also, it getting dependancies, etc.
> -The developer create a tarball (.tar.bzip2) and rename the file name. 
> Instead of software.tar.bzip2 , that's software.deb
> -The developer distribute the software.deb
>
> Apt-get side :
> -The apt-get tool download software.deb from the Debian repository.
> -The program is installed with dpkg
>
> Dpkg side :
> -dpkg rename the software.deb software.tar.bzip2
> -tar uncompress the software.tar.bzip2
> -cd go into the "software" folder
> -./install execute install script

Maybe I'm missing something:

apt-get source foo
apt-get build-dep foo

Do those commands do what you are needing?

-m


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Re: Idea for apt-get : getting source code instead getting binaries

2014-03-06 Thread Liang Suilong
There is a tool named as apt-build. It should be satisfied for your need.

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On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Solal Rastier  wrote:

> Hello! I've an idea for a new apt-get package style :
>
> Developer side :
> -The developer create a ./install script in the source code.
> -The install script executes all commands necessary for install the
> software. Also, it getting dependancies, etc.
> -The developer create a tarball (.tar.bzip2) and rename the file name.
> Instead of software.tar.bzip2 , that's software.deb
> -The developer distribute the software.deb
>
> Apt-get side :
> -The apt-get tool download software.deb from the Debian repository.
> -The program is installed with dpkg
>
> Dpkg side :
> -dpkg rename the software.deb software.tar.bzip2
> -tar uncompress the software.tar.bzip2
> -cd go into the "software" folder
> -./install execute install script
>
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Re: debian/copyright: how extensive ...

2014-03-06 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 12:12:10AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> There is no DEP-5 rules on what to do.  For example the followings are

I hasten to point out, just in case it's still unclear to anyone, that
DEP-5 (now copyright-format/1.0) does not, in any way, affect what
files can or can't be excluded in documenting licenses in
debian/copyright. The level of detail required by ftpmaster in
debian/copyright is entirely independent of the syntax used in the
file.

(I have no answer to your actual question, sorry.)

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Re: Bug#740946: ITP: libsub-recursive-perl -- anonymous memory leak free recursive subroutines

2014-03-06 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 06/03/2014 15:32, Peter Roberts a écrit :
>   Description : anonymous memory leak free recursive subroutines

Hi,

I suggest using hyphens and comas in the short title: "anonymous,
memory-leak-free, recursive subroutines". Initially I thought you were
packaging a free package for leaking memory anonymously.

The short title should also mention that it is a Perl module, IMHO.

Kind regards, Thibaut.





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Idea for apt-get : getting source code instead getting binaries

2014-03-06 Thread Solal Rastier
Hello! I've an idea for a new apt-get package style :

Developer side :
-The developer create a ./install script in the source code.
-The install script executes all commands necessary for install the software. 
Also, it getting dependancies, etc.
-The developer create a tarball (.tar.bzip2) and rename the file name. Instead 
of software.tar.bzip2 , that's software.deb
-The developer distribute the software.deb

Apt-get side :
-The apt-get tool download software.deb from the Debian repository.
-The program is installed with dpkg

Dpkg side :
-dpkg rename the software.deb software.tar.bzip2
-tar uncompress the software.tar.bzip2
-cd go into the "software" folder
-./install execute install script

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Re: Bits from the Security Team

2014-03-06 Thread Guido Günther
Hi Jakub,
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 10:33:23PM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> * Guido Günther , 2014-03-05, 20:54:
[..snip..] 
> >I looked at the docs and as I read them this would affect uid 0 as
> >well.
> 
> Luckily this is not the case. :) root can see other users' /proc
> entries just fine. Perhaps the documentation should be improved.

I should have checked the code first. If I read that correctly
CAP_SYS_PTRACE is necessary here. I've forwarded a patch upstream.
Thanks!
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debian/copyright: how extensive ...

2014-03-06 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

While refining my debmake command and sponsoring libkkc package as my test 
case, I came to questions on practical aspect of debian/copyright file.

  How far we need to document in debian/copyright for auto-generated and
  what to do with files with explicit text.  I want to know this to
  refine debmake command.

When FTP master rejected previous upload rightfully, he had interesting
message:

> Please add the missing LGPL license of at least:
>libkkc/kkc-1.0.pc.in
>tests/lib/test-case.vala
>tests/lib/test-case.c
> and the missing GPL2+ license of:
>libkkc/user-rule.vala
>libkkc/user-rule.c
> to debian/copyright.
   (These are not permissive licenses.)

He was not asking to list auto-generated files with permissive licenses.
  ./m4/intltool.m4 ./m4/ltversion.m4 ./m4/libtool.m4 ./m4/ltoptions.m4
  ./m4/ltsugar.m4 ./m4/lt~obsolete.m4 ./po/Makefile.in.in 'aclocal.m4',
  'config.guess', 'ltmain.sh'
  (As I found out these by reviewing the package.)

(These all are autotools generated special exception ones with slightly
different wordings.)

Is there any rules in place written somewhere?
I need a correct list so I can exclude them from debmake copyright check
list.

Currently, I am excluding the followings:
  'Makefile.in', 'compile', 'config.h.in', 'config.sub', 'configure',
  'depcomp', 'install-sh', 'ltconfig', 'missing', 'mkinstalldirs',
  'py-compile' 

Also, not all files in archive come copyright/license text within the file.

There is no DEP-5 rules on what to do.  For example the followings are
likely not come with copyright/license text within the file. 
  'INSTALL', 'README', 'README.txt', 'README.Debian', 'ChangeLog', 'changelog',

I am excluding these and also 'COPYING' and 'LICENSE' from auto license
scanning.

Osamu


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Bug#740946: ITP: libsub-recursive-perl -- anonymous memory leak free recursive subroutines

2014-03-06 Thread Peter Roberts
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Peter Roberts 

* Package name: libsub-recursive-perl
  Version : 0.03
  Upstream Author : Johan Lodin 
* URL : https://metacpan.org/release/Sub-Recursive
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : anonymous memory leak free recursive subroutines

Recursive Perl closures suffer from a severe memory leak. Sub::Recursive makes 
the problem go away cleanly and at the same time allows you to write recursive 
subroutines as expression and can make them truly anonymous. There's no 
significant speed difference between using &recursive and writing the simpler 
leaking solution.


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Re: RSA vs ECDSA (Was: Bits from keyring-maint: Pushing keyring updates. Let us bury your old 1024D key!)

2014-03-06 Thread Helmut Grohne
On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 02:33:23PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Umh, I feel I have to answer this message, but I clearly don't have
> enough information to do so in an authoritative way¹. AIUI, ECDSA has
> not been shown to be *stronger* than RSA ??? RSA works based on modulus
> operations, ECDSA on curve crypto. ECDSA keys can be smaller and
> achieve (again, AIUI) the same level of security. But nothing so far
> shows that RSA will be broken before or after ECDSA.

Let me add two aspects concerning ECDSA and RSA:

RSA relies on factorization of large numbers being hard. While it
certainly is hard, it may not be hard enough. The interesting question
is: How long does a signature operation take on a key strong enough to
defeat the current global computing power? Unfortunately this time
raises faster than our hardware becomes faster for RSA while it is a bit
better for ECDSA. At some point in the very far future it will be
infeasible to use RSA simply because your device will take ages to emit
a signature that is strong enough.

ECDSA is a DSA algorithm and therefore relies on the creation of secure
random numbers. It has this problem, that if you happen to choose the
same number for two signatures, your private key is broken. With RSA it
is harder to accidentally disclose your private key by using bad random
numbers for signatures. As far as I can tell a malicious random number
generator is part of our threat model now. Bernstein addresses this
issue in EdDSA.

Bottom line: I think it is a bit early to jump on ECDSA.

Hope this helps

Helmut


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Re: Bits from the Security Team

2014-03-06 Thread Jakub Wilk

* Moritz Muehlenhoff , 2014-03-05, 20:03:
* Since Wheezy the Linux kernel features a security mechanism which 
nullifies many symlink attacks (fs.protected_symlinks).


For the lazy, documentation of protected_symlinks:

When the value in this file is 0, no restrictions are placed on 
following symbolic links (i.e., this is the historical behaviour before 
Linux 3.6). When the value in this file is 1, symbolic links are 
followed only in the following circumstances:


* the filesystem UID of the process following the link matches the owner 
(UID) of the symbolic link (as described in credentials(7), a 
process’s filesystem UID is normally the same as its effective UID);


* the link is not in a sticky world‐writable directory; or

* the symbolic link and its parent directory have the same owner (UID)

A system call that fails to follow a symbolic link because of the above 
restrictions returns the error EACCES in errno.


We're planning to treat any vulnerabilities which are rendered moot by 
this protection as non-issues. If you're using custom Linux kernels 
builds you need to enable this option.


It should be noted here that while symlink attack is the most well-known 
way to exploit insecure use of /tmp, it is not the only way, and often 
even not the most exciting way. The symlink protection does not exempt 
you from having to care about using temporary files securely!


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