Re: systemd - some more considerations

2014-04-04 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Chow Loong Jin hyperair at debian.org writes:

 For the record, there's CONFIG_BINFMT_SCRIPT, which when disabled, causes
all
 #! scripts to be run under /bin/sh unconditionally.
 
 *everything* runs under /bin/sh, including Perl, Python, and Bash scripts.

Yes, and /bin/sh is supposed to parse the shebang and call out to
the interpreter. AFAICT, mksh does. That the kernel can also do it
is just a shortcut.

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Re: systemd - some more considerations

2014-04-04 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 08:27:01AM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
 Chow Loong Jin hyperair at debian.org writes:
 
  For the record, there's CONFIG_BINFMT_SCRIPT, which when disabled, causes
 all
  #! scripts to be run under /bin/sh unconditionally.
  
  *everything* runs under /bin/sh, including Perl, Python, and Bash scripts.
 
 Yes, and /bin/sh is supposed to parse the shebang and call out to
 the interpreter. AFAICT, mksh does. That the kernel can also do it
 is just a shortcut.

Are you sure about this? AFAICT this seems to be the exception rather than the
rule. Running my Python scripts (with appropriate #!s) through zsh, bash, and
dash don't seem to automagically redirect them to Python.

Some references would be helpful. I can't seem to find anything on this through
some cursory googling.

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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 08:18:41AM +1100, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
 On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 14:16:15 Undefined User wrote:
  The problem is that right now Debian project is changing its default
  desktop environment, and I think that this is not a good move. Of course,
  it all depends on where the project is aiming at, specially on which users.
  But, for normal users, Gnome 3 is a way better experience than Xfce.
 
 I think Xfce is much better *default* desktop environment (DE) than Gnome.
 
 As KDE fan I do not like Gnome. Those who forget to choose DE in installer 
 (just like I did more than once) and end up with Xfce will have a lot less to 

Yeah, forgetting to press space instead of enter can lead to disaster!
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Re: systemd - some more considerations

2014-04-04 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 08:27:01AM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
  For the record, there's CONFIG_BINFMT_SCRIPT, which when disabled, causes
 all
  #! scripts to be run under /bin/sh unconditionally.
  
  *everything* runs under /bin/sh, including Perl, Python, and Bash scripts.
 
 Yes, and /bin/sh is supposed to parse the shebang and call out to
 the interpreter. 
Supposed by whom?

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Re: systemd - some more considerations

2014-04-04 Thread Christoph Biedl
Chow Loong Jin wrote...

 Some references would be helpful. I can't seem to find anything on this 
 through
 some cursory googling.

Perl scripts, when installed by ExtUtils::MakeMaker or similar, do
have

| eval 'exec /usr/bin/perl  -S $0 ${1+$@}'
| if 0; # not running under some shell

in the very first lines. Yes, it works. However I wasn't aware there
still was a need for that.

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Re: systemd - some more considerations

2014-04-04 Thread Rens Houben
In other news for Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 05:24:50PM +0800, Chow Loong Jin has 
been seen typing:
 On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 08:27:01AM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
  Chow Loong Jin hyperair at debian.org writes:

  Yes, and /bin/sh is supposed to parse the shebang and call out to
  the interpreter. AFAICT, mksh does. That the kernel can also do it
  is just a shortcut.
 
 Are you sure about this? AFAICT this seems to be the exception rather than the
 rule. Running my Python scripts (with appropriate #!s) through zsh, bash, and
 dash don't seem to automagically redirect them to Python.

For myself, I'd *prefer* the latter behavior -- if I explicitly tell
bash to parse a script, I want it to assume I have a good reason, and 
not silently follow a shebang line to execute a different parser
altogether.

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shebang (was Re: systemd - some more considerations)

2014-04-04 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Fri, 4 Apr 2014, Chow Loong Jin wrote:

 Are you sure about this?

Yes.

 Some references would be helpful. I can't seem to find anything on this 
 through

Sure. I’ve patched mksh to use “#?” ipv “#!” as shebang, to
simulate a kernel not supporting the shebang:

Index: exec.c
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/bin/mksh/exec.c,v
retrieving revision 1.129
diff -u -p -u -p -r1.129 exec.c
--- exec.c  11 Jan 2014 16:26:27 -  1.129
+++ exec.c  4 Apr 2014 09:34:58 -
@@ -893,7 +893,7 @@ scriptexec(struct op *tp, const char **a
/* restore begin of shebang position (buf+0 or buf+3) */
cp = (unsigned char *)(buf + fd);
/* bail out if read error (above) or no shebang */
-   if ((cp[0] != '#') || (cp[1] != '!'))
+   if ((cp[0] != '#') || (cp[1] != '?'))
goto noshebang;
 
cp += 2;

(Some comment on the side: “buf+0 or buf+3” is because mksh additionally
strips an UTF-8 BOM before the shebang. This is beyond standard.)

Then I run this:

tglase@tglase:~ $ cat x
#?/usr/bin/python
import sys
print sys.version
tglase@tglase:~ $ ls -l x
-rwxr-xr-x 1 tglase tglase 47 Apr  4 12:54 x
tglase@tglase:~ $ ./x
import.im6: unable to grab mouse ': Resource temporarily unavailable @ 
error/xwindow.c/XSelectWindow/9047.
sys.version
tglase@tglase:~ $ b/mksh
tglase@tglase:~ $ ./x
2.7.6 (default, Mar 22 2014, 17:40:27) 
[GCC 4.8.2]

(This is Debian sid/i386 (still waiting for x32, that’s why i386).)

 some cursory googling.

Try duckduckgoïng instead ☻ or searching POSIX, or something.

Also, “man mksh” look for EXECSHELL (which is the interpreter the
shell uses if the script doesn’t even have a shebang).

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Re: shebang (was Re: systemd - some more considerations)

2014-04-04 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 12:58:23PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
  Are you sure about this?
 
 Yes.
 
  Some references would be helpful. I can't seem to find anything on this 
  through
 
 Sure. I’ve patched mksh 
mksh doesn't count as a reference.

  some cursory googling.
 Try duckduckgoïng instead ☻ or searching POSIX, or something.
That's quite helpful.

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Re: shebang (was Re: systemd - some more considerations)

2014-04-04 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi,

Thorsten Glaser t.gla...@tarent.de writes:
 On Fri, 4 Apr 2014, Chow Loong Jin wrote:

 Are you sure about this?

 Yes.

 Some references would be helpful. I can't seem to find anything on this 
 through

 Sure. I’ve patched mksh to use “#?” ipv “#!” as shebang, to
 simulate a kernel not supporting the shebang:
[...]
 Try duckduckgoïng instead ☻ or searching POSIX, or something.

I tried and found that POSIX says the shell shall try execve(), and if
that fails 'the shell shall execute a command equivalent to having a
shell invoked with the pathname resulting from the search as its first
operand, with any remaining arguments passed to the new shell, except
that the value of $0 in the new shell may be set to the command
name.'[1] No #! involved.

  [1] 
http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/xcu_chap02.html#tag_02_09_01_01

Furthermore Wikipedia says For this reason and because POSIX does not
standardize path names, POSIX does not standardize the feature.[2].

  [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_%28Unix%29#Portability

I'm interested where POSIX says what you are sure it says (that the
shell is responsible for evaluating #!).

 Also, “man mksh” look for EXECSHELL (which is the interpreter the
 shell uses if the script doesn’t even have a shebang).

I don't think the manual for a not commonly used shell is a good
reference...

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Re: shebang

2014-04-04 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Fri, 4 Apr 2014, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:

 I'm interested where POSIX says what you are sure it says (that the
 shell is responsible for evaluating #!).

I said the shell is supposed to, and suggested to search POSIX, but
I wasn’t sure that it was POSIX standardised, and never said so. As
you cited, it’s probably not. Doesn’t mean the shell doesn’t or
shouldn’t.

  Also, “man mksh” look for EXECSHELL (which is the interpreter the
  shell uses if the script doesn’t even have a shebang).

 I don't think the manual for a not commonly used shell is a good
 reference...

Uhm, excuse me?

“Larry Page: 1.5 million Android devices activated every day”
“Android device activations set to hit 1 billion soon”
‣ 
http://www.androidcentral.com/larry-page-15-million-android-devices-activated-every-day
That was on 2013-07-18; by that time, every new device activation
meant one new mksh user.

“Google announced that in Q3 2011, the total number of Android
activations had surpassed 190 million, which was a significant increase
from 135 million the previous quarter. The increase was boosted by sales
of Android smartphones at lower prices from Chinese and Indian
manufacturers.[2] As of 3 September 2013, there have been 1 billion
Android devices activated.[3]”
‣ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Android_devices
Every 4.x device, and many others, run mksh as system shell
(/system/bin/sh, Android’s equivalent of our /bin/sh).

According to the graphics at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Android_historical_version_distribution_-_vector.svg
that’s over ¾ of all devices (although the graphics is unclear as to
whether that is the total number of all activations, or (as seems to
be common with statistics from Google) the number of currently “live”
devices). Add to that the amount of devices running AOSP or another
non-phone-home firmware (Replicant, maybe SiMKo3, Cyanogen… well it
does phone home…).

There are also hundreds of Debian (or derivates) systems running
with mksh as /bin/sh (I should know, I set up a good part of them).

All FreeWRT, MidnightBSD, MirBSD, and recent OpenADK systems run
with mksh as system shell (/bin/sh); sta.li will do that too.

There’s also a lot of systems that c̲a̲n̲ run with mksh as system shell
at the administrator’s choice. Debian, all BSDs (NetBSD® only from
version 1.6 onwards, 1.5 has ashisms in the init scripts), Crux,
FreeMiNT, Deli Linux, etc. at least.

And only then add the sheer amount of systems where mksh is used
but not as system shell…

I honestly doubt that any other Unix shell is currently used as
widespread as mksh.

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Re: shebang (was Re: systemd - some more considerations)

2014-04-04 Thread Jakub Wilk

* Thorsten Glaser t.gla...@tarent.de, 2014-04-04, 12:58:

Try duckduckgoïng instead ☻ or searching POSIX, or something.


SUSv4 “helpfully” says:

If the first line of a file of shell commands starts with the characters 
#!, the results are unspecified.


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Re: shebang (was Re: systemd - some more considerations)

2014-04-04 Thread Salvo Tomaselli
In data venerdì 04 aprile 2014 17.38.12, Andrey Rahmatullin ha scritto:
  Sure. I’ve patched mksh 
 
 mksh doesn't count as a reference.
Did you even read before replying? He patched it to use #? Instead of #! that 
was using.
He was sure about it being there because he had patched it to behave 
differently.

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Re: shebang

2014-04-04 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 02:00:46PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
  I'm interested where POSIX says what you are sure it says (that the
  shell is responsible for evaluating #!).
 
 I said the shell is supposed to, and suggested to search POSIX, but
 I wasn’t sure that it was POSIX standardised, and never said so. As
 you cited, it’s probably not. Doesn’t mean the shell doesn’t or
 shouldn’t.
Can you please refrain from asking to search something when you are not
sure something even exists?

   Also, “man mksh” look for EXECSHELL (which is the interpreter the
   shell uses if the script doesn’t even have a shebang).
 
  I don't think the manual for a not commonly used shell is a good
  reference...
 
 Uhm, excuse me?
 
 “Larry Page: 1.5 million Android devices activated every day”
 “Android device activations set to hit 1 billion soon”
 ‣ 
 http://www.androidcentral.com/larry-page-15-million-android-devices-activated-every-day
 That was on 2013-07-18; by that time, every new device activation
 meant one new mksh user.
 
 “Google announced that in Q3 2011, the total number of Android
 activations had surpassed 190 million, which was a significant increase
 from 135 million the previous quarter. The increase was boosted by sales
 of Android smartphones at lower prices from Chinese and Indian
 manufacturers.[2] As of 3 September 2013, there have been 1 billion
 Android devices activated.[3]”
 ‣ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Android_devices
 Every 4.x device, and many others, run mksh as system shell
 (/system/bin/sh, Android’s equivalent of our /bin/sh).
 
 According to the graphics at
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Android_historical_version_distribution_-_vector.svg
 that’s over ¾ of all devices (although the graphics is unclear as to
 whether that is the total number of all activations, or (as seems to
 be common with statistics from Google) the number of currently “live”
 devices). Add to that the amount of devices running AOSP or another
 non-phone-home firmware (Replicant, maybe SiMKo3, Cyanogen… well it
 does phone home…).
 
 There are also hundreds of Debian (or derivates) systems running
 with mksh as /bin/sh (I should know, I set up a good part of them).
 
 All FreeWRT, MidnightBSD, MirBSD, and recent OpenADK systems run
 with mksh as system shell (/bin/sh); sta.li will do that too.
 
 There’s also a lot of systems that c̲a̲n̲ run with mksh as system shell
 at the administrator’s choice. Debian, all BSDs (NetBSD® only from
 version 1.6 onwards, 1.5 has ashisms in the init scripts), Crux,
 FreeMiNT, Deli Linux, etc. at least.
 
 And only then add the sheer amount of systems where mksh is used
 but not as system shell…
 
 I honestly doubt that any other Unix shell is currently used as
 widespread as mksh.
Doesn't make it more authoritative or something.

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Re: shebang (was Re: systemd - some more considerations)

2014-04-04 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 02:04:32PM +0200, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
   Sure. I’ve patched mksh 
  
  mksh doesn't count as a reference.
 Did you even read before replying? He patched it to use #? Instead of #! that 
 was using.
 He was sure about it being there because he had patched it to behave 
 differently.
And all of that was to prove mksh does something, which cannot be used as
an argument about general or standardized behavior, or something.

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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Undefined User
Well, it's almost impossible to avoid personal judgments on this matter.
This involves personal taste. But when talking about new users or
not-that-advanced users, I'm really suggesting Gnome 3 to be the choice
of the project.

I know that its size is bigger than Xfce and it takes more resources, but
it represents the evolution of a great desktop environment. And it is (and
looks like) today.

As I said before, we can't deny that a lot of people hate changes. But it's
part of the process. Each product, when getting big changes, faces it.
Windows 8 is a good example.

I'm saying something that the market is showing us: people don't want to
perform magic to make things work these days. They want to press an icon
and get that program to work. Furthermore, they're asking developers to
narrow differences between platforms.

It's not about Gnome, Xfce or whatever desktop environment being focused
only on touchscreen devices or identical to a mobile platform (that would
be terrible for everyone), but at least something that doesn't make people
think that Debian looks like from last decade and don't support new
technologies (although, we all know, none of these being true -- but we
have to show it).


2014-04-04 6:40 GMT-03:00 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz:

 On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 08:18:41AM +1100, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
  On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 14:16:15 Undefined User wrote:
   The problem is that right now Debian project is changing its default
   desktop environment, and I think that this is not a good move. Of
 course,
   it all depends on where the project is aiming at, specially on which
 users.
   But, for normal users, Gnome 3 is a way better experience than Xfce.
 
  I think Xfce is much better *default* desktop environment (DE) than
 Gnome.
 
  As KDE fan I do not like Gnome. Those who forget to choose DE in
 installer
  (just like I did more than once) and end up with Xfce will have a lot
 less to

 Yeah, forgetting to press space instead of enter can lead to disaster!
 :)

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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Undefined User contributed:

 It's not about Gnome, Xfce or whatever desktop environment being focused
 only on touchscreen devices or identical to a mobile platform (that would
 be terrible for everyone), but at least something that doesn't make people
 think that Debian looks like from last decade and don't support new
 technologies (although, we all know, none of these being true -- but we
 have to show it).

I'm not sure I agree or that many care so much. In just the last few
weeks I have had one 80 year old and one 30 year old both say they
wanted the Windows XP interface back over Windows 7/Vista repectively.

Which bit exactly do you think looks like win 98? xfce4-panel;
gnome-panel runs in xfce.

It should take very little to improve the look of xfce and with very
little memory usage increase.

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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 10:03:46AM -0300, Undefined User wrote:

This involves personal taste. But when talking about new users or
not-that-advanced users, I'm really suggesting Gnome 3 to be the choice
of the project.


But what are your definitions of „new users”? Someone who has never used 
Linux before (but maybe Windows and wants to change from his old XP, 
I don’t think he will like Gnome3)? Or really a new user?


As far as I understand Gnome3 needs more resources than XFCE and modern 
hardware. The default desktop should be moderate. If you want more eye 
candy and bells and whistles you can install bigger desktop environments.


As far as I know the installer can’t do a hardware check and switch 
desktop environemnts fitting to the system.


I know that its size is bigger than Xfce and it takes more resources, 
but it represents the evolution of a great desktop environment. And it 
is (and looks like) today.


No, it’s terrible and keeps you from getting your work done (at least in 
my case).


As I said before, we can't deny that a lot of people hate changes. But 
it's part of the process. Each product, when getting big changes, faces 
it. Windows 8 is a good example.


Yes, Win8 is horrible. But you don’t have to go that far. I know people 
who refused a new system with Windows 7 because it didn’t work the same 
way as Windows XP. So they kept the old hardware and the old system.


My mother is using Debian 6 with Gnome 2. I don’t know if I will ever 
update this system. Gnome 3 is not a solution, and I’m not interested in 
teaching XFCE.


Shade and sweet water!

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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Chris Bannister
[Please don't top post on this mailing list.]

On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 10:03:46AM -0300, Undefined User wrote:
 Well, it's almost impossible to avoid personal judgments on this matter.
 This involves personal taste. But when talking about new users or
 not-that-advanced users, I'm really suggesting Gnome 3 to be the choice
 of the project.

Having a sensible default is not about new users or not-that-advanced
users; there are derivatives which cater for that sort of thing.

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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland
We go over the same ground over and over. I'm increasingly in favour of *no*
default. You must pick one from a list on install. Randomize the list if
necessary.


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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Undefined User
Perfect solution.

Debian installer should provide you information about desktop environments
and let the user choose it.


2014-04-04 10:52 GMT-03:00 Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org:

 We go over the same ground over and over. I'm increasingly in favour of
 *no*
 default. You must pick one from a list on install. Randomize the list if
 necessary.


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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Undefined User
Sorry for not deleting the reply text over my last e-mail.


Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread The Wanderer
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 Sorry for not deleting the reply text over my last e-mail.

Actually, for all that top-posting is a sin, failing to quote at all
when replying is AFAIK generally considered even worse...

(Depending on context, of course; in a Web forum where the message being
replied to is probably still visible when reading the reply, quoting
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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 04 avril 2014 à 15:25 +0200, Stephan Seitz a écrit : 
 As far as I understand Gnome3 needs more resources than XFCE 

This is mostly irrelevant. The resources consumed by the desktop are
negligible compared to applications. As soon as you start a browser with
a few tabs on non-trivial websites, 1 GiB of memory is barely enough.
Regardless of the desktop environment.

 and modern hardware. 

This is no longer a requirement in jessie, at least on x86 where
llvmpipe is now accepted as a GL engine.

 The default desktop should be moderate. If you want more eye 
 candy and bells and whistles you can install bigger desktop environments.

The default desktop should be functional and easy to use. I don’t call
features that go in this direction “eye candy” or “bells and whistles”.
Please don’t compare GNOME to Compiz just because it has OpenGL
requirements.

 My mother is using Debian 6 with Gnome 2. I don’t know if I will ever 
 update this system. Gnome 3 is not a solution, and I’m not interested in 
 teaching XFCE.

Looks like you are deciding in place of your mother what is good for
her. And I don’t think you should in this case. GNOME 3 is very popular
among less experienced users, for good reason.

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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 04:13:27PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:

Le vendredi 04 avril 2014 à 15:25 +0200, Stephan Seitz a écrit :

and modern hardware.

This is no longer a requirement in jessie, at least on x86 where
llvmpipe is now accepted as a GL engine.


Ah, thank you.


The default desktop should be moderate. If you want more eye
candy and bells and whistles you can install bigger desktop environments.

The default desktop should be functional and easy to use. I don’t call


Yes, and what means „functional”? XFCE is of course functional, heck, 
even fvwm is functional, and I know people who still use it because they 
only have one config file to copy to a new machine and their desktop is 
ready.



My mother is using Debian 6 with Gnome 2. I don’t know if I will ever
update this system. Gnome 3 is not a solution, and I’m not interested in
teaching XFCE.

Looks like you are deciding in place of your mother what is good for
her. And I don’t think you should in this case. GNOME 3 is very popular


Of course I do because she will ask me what she has to do now. She 
doesn’t try and she doesn’t experiment.


Shade and sweet water!

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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 02:52:41PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
 We go over the same ground over and over. I'm increasingly in favour of *no*
 default. You must pick one from a list on install. Randomize the list if
 necessary.

And can I pass my granddad's phone call on to you when he is stuck
choosing among names that are absolutely obscure to him like GNOME,
Xfce, and KDE?

We are software integrators, making default choices is what we do.

We can't pass the bucket down to our users.

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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Undefined User
2014-04-04 11:42 GMT-03:00 Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org:

 And can I pass my granddad's phone call on to you when he is stuck
 choosing among names that are absolutely obscure to him like GNOME,
 Xfce, and KDE?


Not giving the user a taste of the options, well... Yes, I agree, it's
pretty hard to solve it this way.

In addition to that, it's very important for us to understand that an
average user (someone that just surfs the internet ou work with text
editors) don't separate/discriminate the OS from the desktop environment.
On Wheezy, for example, they would think that Debian is Gnome 3, because
it is included in the whole default installation package.


2014-04-04 11:42 GMT-03:00 Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org:

 On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 02:52:41PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
  We go over the same ground over and over. I'm increasingly in favour of
 *no*
  default. You must pick one from a list on install. Randomize the list if
  necessary.

 And can I pass my granddad's phone call on to you when he is stuck
 choosing among names that are absolutely obscure to him like GNOME,
 Xfce, and KDE?

 We are software integrators, making default choices is what we do.

 We can't pass the bucket down to our users.

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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Undefined User
2014-04-04 11:04 GMT-03:00 The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm:

 Actually, for all that top-posting is a sin, failing to quote at all
 when replying is AFAIK generally considered even worse...

 (Depending on context, of course; in a Web forum where the message being
 replied to is probably still visible when reading the reply, quoting
 would be inapproriate. But we're talking about E-mail here.)



Duly noted. I will be more careful when replying.


getting rid of md5 hashes

2014-04-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

as I've just been affected by #700266  fetchmail: --sslfingerprint uses MD5 
I wonder if someone is tracking all the bugs related to using md5 hashes kind 
of like how we track bugs in software not supporting ipv6.

User debian-secur...@lists.debian.org
Usertag 700266 md5 

maybe?


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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2014-04-03, Dmitry Smirnov only...@debian.org wrote:
 As KDE fan I do not like Gnome. Those who forget to choose DE in instal=
 ler=20

Part of me wants to have KDE Plasma Desktop as the default workspace,
because it is completely awesome.

Other parts of me is happy that it is not the default because then we
don't have all sorts of weird wishes about oh noes. networkmanager or
Please use this non-integrated piece of messaging software because it
does something that no one uses.

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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Hashem Nasarat
On 04/04/2014 10:36 AM, Stephan Seitz wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 04:13:27PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
 Le vendredi 04 avril 2014 à 15:25 +0200, Stephan Seitz a écrit :
 and modern hardware.
 This is no longer a requirement in jessie, at least on x86 where
 llvmpipe is now accepted as a GL engine.
 
 Ah, thank you.
 
 The default desktop should be moderate. If you want more eye
 candy and bells and whistles you can install bigger desktop
 environments.
 The default desktop should be functional and easy to use. I don’t call
 
 Yes, and what means „functional”? XFCE is of course functional, heck,
 even fvwm is functional, and I know people who still use it because they
 only have one config file to copy to a new machine and their desktop is
 ready.

XFCE (at least the version in Debian 8) doesn't automatically handle
external monitors, which is a pretty significant use-case for all kinds
of users.

I do not think it's fair to expect a new user to be configure xrandr or
find  install a 3rd party xrandr GUI.

On the other hand, experienced users are familiar enough to install
whichever environment they wish. Perhaps a compromise is to have GNOME
the default and then XFCE as a bare-bones GUI or something.


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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 04:42:19PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
 And can I pass my granddad's phone call on to you when he is stuck
 choosing among names that are absolutely obscure to him like GNOME,
 Xfce, and KDE?

No, just say pick a random one. Surely they'll all be entirely appropriate
for your grandad by the time we release jessie ;)


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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Stephan Heidinger
On 04.04.2014 17:15, Hashem Nasarat wrote:
 On the other hand, experienced users are familiar enough to install
 whichever environment they wish. Perhaps a compromise is to have GNOME
 the default and then XFCE as a bare-bones GUI or something.

Why then install an alternative at all. Experienced users install what
they want anyways. The DEs working best for unexperienced users would
be the DEs that do much work themselves, that is multi display,
network(-manager), easy (GUI) ways to change stuff like time, date,
language, sound, (themes), … Therefore the default should probably be
looked around the bigger ones like Gnome, KDE, (Cinnamon when its included).

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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list people contributed:

 Why then install an alternative at all. Experienced users install what
 they want anyways. The DEs working best for unexperienced users would
 be the DEs that do much work themselves,

Xfce allows more options and choice by default on a cd and
unexperienced users have a better chance of loading synaptic and a web
browser on xfce than heavier desktops and is meant to be more stable.

Hasn't Gnome or just GTK3? just removed cue tips shortcuts too affecting
mouse/touchless systems.

 XFCE (at least the version in Debian 8) doesn't automatically handle
 external monitors, which is a pretty significant use-case for all kinds
 of users.
 

I don't want to reboot right now but xfce4-display-settings in debian 7
does atleast after you have run xrandr and I would guess if plugged in
during boot up as my second screen comes up by itself with it's own
panels when it is.

 I do not think it's fair to expect a new user to be configure xrandr or
 find  install a 3rd party xrandr GUI.

You could add lxrandr to the default and the DE would still be smaller
than gnome. How modular is Gnome, you could even use their display
management tools until newer versions of xfce hit debian stable,
atleast you should be able to? 

I know xfce 4.11 might take some time to hit stable and has some extra
tweaks such as for having screens above and below each other. Perhaps
having an xfce backports choice during install is another idea but I
guess that couldn't be supported.

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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk writes:

 Part of me wants to have KDE Plasma Desktop as the default workspace,
 because it is completely awesome.

 Other parts of me is happy that it is not the default because then we
 don't have all sorts of weird wishes about oh noes. networkmanager or
 Please use this non-integrated piece of messaging software because it
 does something that no one uses.

We should change the default desktop environment with each release so that
each maintenance team gets to share in the fun!  It's like a giant hazing
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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Amy Rice
Is it a bad idea in the end not to include a desktop at all,
and the user can install one at their own discretion?

On 4/4/2014 8:55 AM, Undefined User wrote:
 Perfect solution.

 Debian installer should provide you information about desktop
 environments and let the user choose it.


 2014-04-04 10:52 GMT-03:00 Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org
 mailto:j...@debian.org:

 We go over the same ground over and over. I'm increasingly in
 favour of *no*
 default. You must pick one from a list on install. Randomize the
 list if
 necessary.


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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Undefined User
2014-04-04 14:46 GMT-03:00 Amy Rice pill.dic...@aol.co.uk:

 Is it a bad idea in the end not to include a desktop at all,
 and the user can install one at their own discretion?


The Debian Installer lets you choose if you want to install a desktop
environment or not. By default it comes checked (so it will be installed).
I don't think that we have to change that. We only have to discuss about
what desktop environment will be the default.


Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Freitag, 4. April 2014, Russ Allbery wrote:
 We should change the default desktop environment with each release so that
 each maintenance team gets to share in the fun!  It's like a giant hazing
 ritual.  :)

wow, the quality of debian-devel has really degraded. Russ starts trolling... 
at least it's still funny :-)


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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Fernando Toledo
El 03/04/14 22:15, Norbert Preining escribió:
 On Thu, 03 Apr 2014, Stephen Allen wrote:
 Like the OP - I didn't like Gnome-Shell at first, but after giving it a
 month I really started enjoying it. It's also mature and being worked on
 extensively. Not something one can say about Xfce4 at this point.

 I think you're probably the exception to the rule.
 
 No: I tried G3 for nearly a year - and finally have purged my laptop
 of all traces if it. 
 
 I don't go to rants about user interface design blocking me to do 
 things I want to do etc etc etc.
 
 XFCE is *by*far* superior to G3, IMNSHO
 
 Norbert
 

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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 04 Apr 2014 10:28:26 -0700, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org
wrote:
Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk writes:

 Part of me wants to have KDE Plasma Desktop as the default workspace,
 because it is completely awesome.

 Other parts of me is happy that it is not the default because then we
 don't have all sorts of weird wishes about oh noes. networkmanager or
 Please use this non-integrated piece of messaging software because it
 does something that no one uses.

We should change the default desktop environment with each release so that
each maintenance team gets to share in the fun!  It's like a giant hazing
ritual.  :)

Please do the same for the default MTA.

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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 04 Apr 2014 10:04:37 -0400, The Wanderer
wande...@fastmail.fm wrote:
(Depending on context, of course; in a Web forum where the message being
replied to is probably still visible when reading the reply, quoting
would be inapproriate. But we're talking about E-mail here.)

And e-mail threading wasn't invented somewhat 25 years ago?

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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread The Wanderer
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On 04/04/2014 03:39 PM, Marc Haber wrote:

 On Fri, 04 Apr 2014 10:04:37 -0400, The Wanderer 
 wande...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 
 (Depending on context, of course; in a Web forum where the message
 being replied to is probably still visible when reading the reply,
 quoting would be inapproriate. But we're talking about E-mail
 here.)
 
 And e-mail threading wasn't invented somewhat 25 years ago?

I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean by this question.

Of course E-mail threading is a thing. But when you're viewing the body
of one message, the body of another message is not visible - unless
you've taken special measures, such as opening one of the two messages
in a separate window. Threading makes it (relatively) fast and easy to
move between a reply message and its parent message, but it doesn't
cause both messages to be displayed at once.

As such, I'm not sure what E-mail threading has to do with the issue.

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Re: Bug#743656: ITP: memoizable -- A gem that offers Memoization is an optimization that saves the return value of a method so it doesn't need to be re-computed every time that method is called.

2014-04-04 Thread Andrei POPESCU
Control: reassign -1 wnpp

On Vi, 04 apr 14, 23:25:42, Danial Jose wrote:
 package: memoizable
 Severity: wishlist
 Owner: 'Danial José' danialj...@gmail.com
 
 *Package Name : memoizable
  Version : 0.3.2
  Upstream Author : Dan Kubb, Erik Michaels-Ober (Author name/s of the Gem).
 *URL :  https://github.com/dkubb/memoizable‎ (Link to the git repo of the
 Gem)
 *License : Expat
 *Description :  Memoization is an optimization that saves the return value
 of a method so it doesn't need to be re-computed every time that method is
 called.
 
 
 I am packaging devise as it is a dependency of debian-diaspora
 (#691181)  which is a dependency of diaspora (#597093)

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Re: Deprecating/removing racoon/ipsec-tools from Debian GNU/Linux and racoon from Debian/kfreebsd

2014-04-04 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 12:59:35PM +1300, Matt Grant wrote:
 Systemd package support is the thing that pushed me over the edge about
 this.  There are no systemd unit files at all for ipsec-tools/racoon
 that I know of. Please advise me otherwise, and I will look at putting
 them in the current package.

I've recently worked out unit files for other packages, and am happy to
help come up with a suitable unit file for racoon as well.

 The issues are:
 
 1) Security.  The racoon daemon has to run as root, with a lot of the
 default GCC security flags turned off. 

Running as root without build-time hardening is bad, but...

 4) racoon/setkey are native IPSEC implementations across FreeBSD,
 NetBSD, Mac OSX, and Linux, and thus having it available give a 'just
 works' IPSEC option. 

...

 My main concern as maintainer are the security issues, with an old code
 base running as root.

The code base may be old, but it's pretty widely used and thus should
have many eyes watching it. (I'm being optimistic, I know). The
ipsec-tools mailing lists don't see a lot of activity, but they're by no
means dead.  And there was just an upstream 0.8.2 release in February.

 I am willing to co-maintain this package with other developers and
 maintainers.  My belief is that there is likely a Debian kFreeBSD
 developer/maintainer out there who would like to do this, and do a lot
 of the work :-)

I'm happy to help maintain ipsec-tools, as I make regular use of it and
have done so for several years. I'd also be supportive of removing it
for jessie+1 based on your arguments for doing so. If that's the path
taken, it'd be really good if we could document (and at least partially
automate?) the migration path from racoon to the preferred alternatives.

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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 16:19 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 04:42:19PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
  And can I pass my granddad's phone call on to you when he is stuck
  choosing among names that are absolutely obscure to him like GNOME,
  Xfce, and KDE?
 
 No, just say pick a random one. Surely they'll all be entirely appropriate
 for your grandad by the time we release jessie ;)

Well, one might argue that DEs are either a suitable pick for our users or
they are not and that the actual choice from the suitable set is therefore
irrelevant.

I would like to see the No default scheme implemented in such a way that
users are shown a picture of the desktop + one/two sentences about the DEs.
That way the user would be actually more likely to pick a DE (s)he likes.

But then I also believe that Gnome 3 is, like XFCE, a perfectly reasonable
choice and would be perfectly happy with Gnome 3.

One thing I dislike about switching the default DE is that it puts a lot of
people active in support in a position in which they might not actually be as
familiar with the DE they will end up supporting most frequently simply by
having learned a different default one a few generations back. The
information flow from experienced users to new users is thereby slightly
hampered.
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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Philip Hands
Wolodja Wentland deb...@babilen5.org writes:
...
 One thing I dislike about switching the default DE is that it puts a lot of
 people active in support in a position in which they might not actually be as
 familiar with the DE they will end up supporting most frequently simply by
 having learned a different default one a few generations back. The
 information flow from experienced users to new users is thereby slightly
 hampered.

Yes, because all that Gnome 2 experience is going to be so helpful when the
poor sod at the other end of the phone is looking at a Gnome 3 desktop.

Anyway, to return to the main point, I do wonder why nobody has bothered
to mention that the reason for the switch was that Gnome no longer fits
on CD#1.

Rather than a totally pointless discussion about choosing a default that
will render our minimal install media worthless, how about persuading
people that nobody needs CD images any more, or that it's OK to have a
useless CD#1.

Actually, no, instead why don't you all check out the various threads on
debian-boot where those arguments have failed to be persuasive, and then
go and do something productive instead.

Cheers, Phil.
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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Undefined User
2014-04-04 19:52 GMT-03:00 Philip Hands p...@hands.com:

 pointless discussion


First of all, great attitude, my friend. It seems like you are a very
reasonable person. Second, pointless discussion? So all these people here
are just wasting time? Well... What can I say? That's your point of view
and I have to respect it.


Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 05/04/14 00:52, Philip Hands wrote:
 Anyway, to return to the main point, I do wonder why nobody has bothered
 to mention that the reason for the switch was that Gnome no longer fits
 on CD#1.

If that were true, we could surely fix it. If it were true.

Emilio


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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 04/04/14 21:38, Marc Haber wrote:
 On Fri, 04 Apr 2014 10:28:26 -0700, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org
 wrote:
 Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk writes:

 Part of me wants to have KDE Plasma Desktop as the default workspace,
 because it is completely awesome.

 Other parts of me is happy that it is not the default because then we
 don't have all sorts of weird wishes about oh noes. networkmanager or
 Please use this non-integrated piece of messaging software because it
 does something that no one uses.

 We should change the default desktop environment with each release so that
 each maintenance team gets to share in the fun!  It's like a giant hazing
 ritual.  :)
 
 Please do the same for the default MTA.

Don't forget the kernel and the init system.

/me runs


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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread John Holland
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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Philip Hands
Undefined User unknowuse...@gmail.com writes:

 2014-04-04 19:52 GMT-03:00 Philip Hands p...@hands.com:

 pointless discussion

 First of all, great attitude, my friend. It seems like you are a very
 reasonable person. Second, pointless discussion? So all these people here
 are just wasting time? Well... What can I say? That's your point of view
 and I have to respect it.

Well, I should probably have worded the conditional clause in that
sentence to make my point more clearly -- i.e.:

  Given that the options other than XFCE that people are advocating here
  (Gnome and KDE) don't actually fit on CD#1, there is very little point
  trying to decide which of them you might want, since you cannot have
  either of them.

If you're wondering where the idea that they will no longer fit on CD#1
came from, it's been a repeating theme on debian-boot, as the packages
and dependencies have grown over time -- this thread seems to cover the
subject pretty well, if you read all of it (there's quite a lot of it
though):

  https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2013/05/msg00684.html

As for my grumpy tone, I apologise for that -- it probably comes from
the several voluminous threads on debian-devel recently spouting drivel
about systemd which I may have unfairly associated with this thread.

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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Undefined User
2014-04-04 20:36 GMT-03:00 Philip Hands p...@hands.com:

 As for my grumpy tone, I apologise for that -- it probably comes from
 the several voluminous threads on debian-devel recently spouting drivel
 about systemd which I may have unfairly associated with this thread.


Philip, I would like to thank you for the reply and also apologize for the
email that I sent. I didn't want the discussion to be lost.

However, I believe we should all know that there are many developers here,
but also users - the latter being my case. So, I am not aware of the
technical limitations of the distribution, and I think that some developer
here could help us pointing them out, if any. Moreover, it would be
important to know whether these limitations can be overcome or not.


Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 23:52 +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
 Wolodja Wentland deb...@babilen5.org writes:
 ...
  One thing I dislike about switching the default DE is that it puts a lot of
  people active in support in a position in which they might not actually be 
  as
  familiar with the DE they will end up supporting most frequently simply by
  having learned a different default one a few generations back. The
  information flow from experienced users to new users is thereby slightly
  hampered.
 Yes, because all that Gnome 2 experience is going to be so helpful when the
 poor sod at the other end of the phone is looking at a Gnome 3 desktop.

My knowledge of various GTK applications and their idioms actually helps in a
lot in this, but I simply wanted to make an argument against switching.

 Anyway, to return to the main point, I do wonder why nobody has bothered
 to mention that the reason for the switch was that Gnome no longer fits
 on CD#1.

[...]

 Actually, no, instead why don't you all check out the various threads on
 debian-boot where those arguments have failed to be persuasive, and then
 go and do something productive instead.

Exactly. Lets offer a netinstall with a sensible menu that allows the user =
to choose the DE (s)he wants plus the various CD1, [1GB, 2GB, 3GB] DVD1, BD1,
...  images for the different DEs as has been done for wheezy.

I am personally not convinced that having one unlabelled CD1 and a hard to
change preselection in the netinst is worth discussing the default DE every
other month and a very desirable goal in itself. And offering a choice does
not even prevent the expression of a preference or bias (choose this if you
are unsure). Neither do I think that being able to provide a single complete
CD image will be the most important factor in this discussion in the years to
come.

The interface somebody uses to interact with a computer is probably one of the
few examples in which a user actually wants to make a choice as preferences
are inherently subjective and far reaching. All I was arguing for is simply to
provide a little more information to enable the user to make this decision.
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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Roger Lynn
On 04/04/14 00:50, Stephen Allen wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 08:18:41AM +1100, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
 I think Xfce is much better *default* desktop environment (DE) than Gnome.
 
 As KDE fan I do not like Gnome. Those who forget to choose DE in installer 
 (just like I did more than once) and end up with Xfce will have a lot less 
 to 
 remove from their systems shall they choose to use a different DE.
 
 Faster installation is another good reason to stick with Xfce by default.
 
 Disagree - Gnome 3 I would think for MOST users would be preferable.
 Like the OP says Xfce4 is not desirable for most users coming from the
 dark side or heck perhaps for most users on Linux that want a modern
 desktop.

If you assume that most users have previously used MS Windows, then wouldn't
KDE be more appropriate? It might also avoid some of the more controversial
discussions we've seen here in recent years.

Roger


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Re: shebang (was Re: systemd - some more considerations)

2014-04-04 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi,

Thorsten Glaser:
 tglase@tglase:~ $ cat x
 #?/usr/bin/python
 import sys
 print sys.version
 tglase@tglase:~ $ ls -l x
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 tglase tglase 47 Apr  4 12:54 x
 tglase@tglase:~ $ ./x
 import.im6: unable to grab mouse ': Resource temporarily unavailable @ 
 error/xwindow.c/XSelectWindow/9047.
 sys.version
 tglase@tglase:~ $ b/mksh
 tglase@tglase:~ $ ./x
 2.7.6 (default, Mar 22 2014, 17:40:27) 
 [GCC 4.8.2]
 
This just says that mksh handles #! scripts like no other shell.
Doesn't mean that it's a good (or bad) idea.

In fact, I wonder whether anything would break if we removed the ability
to run shebang-less scripts from our shells.

Currently, they do this:

* bash opens the script and interprets it
* ash dash immediately execve() /bin/sh with the script
* mksh obviously opens the file and tries to read the #! line, which
  seems pointless because the kernel already did this.

This gets interesting if you point the #! line to something which is not an
executable.

* ash bash dash obviously behave as if the #! line was not there and
  interpret the script.
* mksh reports the ENOEXEC. I actually like that.

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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Stephen Allen
On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 12:32:45AM +0100, Roger Lynn wrote:
 On 04/04/14 00:50, Stephen Allen wrote:
  On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 08:18:41AM +1100, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
  I think Xfce is much better *default* desktop environment (DE) than Gnome.
  
  As KDE fan I do not like Gnome. Those who forget to choose DE in installer 
  (just like I did more than once) and end up with Xfce will have a lot less 
  to 
  remove from their systems shall they choose to use a different DE.
  
  Faster installation is another good reason to stick with Xfce by default.
  
  Disagree - Gnome 3 I would think for MOST users would be preferable.
  Like the OP says Xfce4 is not desirable for most users coming from the
  dark side or heck perhaps for most users on Linux that want a modern
  desktop.
 
 If you assume that most users have previously used MS Windows, then wouldn't
 KDE be more appropriate? It might also avoid some of the more controversial
 discussions we've seen here in recent years.

Sure KDE is worthy of consideration as well, my personal favourite is
Gnome-Shell. The point is, it should be a modern Desktop Environment.
Anybody I've showed Gnome-Shell to, likes it. Of course these are folks
that were never exposed to CDE or other dinosaur window shells. :-/

Most folks are going to be using modern laptops and won't be happy with
something out of the 90s as their DE. I'm speaking as a retired person 
too. LOL


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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Stephen Allen
On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 12:36:30AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
 Undefined User unknowuse...@gmail.com writes:
 
  2014-04-04 19:52 GMT-03:00 Philip Hands p...@hands.com:
 
  pointless discussion
 
  First of all, great attitude, my friend. It seems like you are a very
  reasonable person. Second, pointless discussion? So all these people here
  are just wasting time? Well... What can I say? That's your point of view
  and I have to respect it.
 
 Well, I should probably have worded the conditional clause in that
 sentence to make my point more clearly -- i.e.:
 
   Given that the options other than XFCE that people are advocating here
   (Gnome and KDE) don't actually fit on CD#1, there is very little point
   trying to decide which of them you might want, since you cannot have
   either of them.
 
 If you're wondering where the idea that they will no longer fit on CD#1
 came from, it's been a repeating theme on debian-boot, as the packages
 and dependencies have grown over time -- this thread seems to cover the
 subject pretty well, if you read all of it (there's quite a lot of it
 though):
 
   https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2013/05/msg00684.html
 
 As for my grumpy tone, I apologise for that -- it probably comes from
 the several voluminous threads on debian-devel recently spouting drivel
 about systemd which I may have unfairly associated with this thread.

These days why bother with CDs at all - simply use DVDs? Too many
choices is hard on finite developer resources and really not needed.
IMHO YMMV


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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/04/2014 09:55 PM, Undefined User wrote:
 2014-04-04 10:52 GMT-03:00 Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org
 mailto:j...@debian.org:
 
 We go over the same ground over and over. I'm increasingly in favour
 of *no*
 default. You must pick one from a list on install. Randomize the list if
 necessary.
 Perfect solution.
 
 Debian installer should provide you information about desktop
 environments and let the user choose it.

There's only one problem with this approach: somebody has to actually
implement it... [1]

Thomas

[1] And it's been years we're (uselessly) discussing it.


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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/04/2014 10:42 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 02:52:41PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
 We go over the same ground over and over. I'm increasingly in favour of *no*
 default. You must pick one from a list on install. Randomize the list if
 necessary.
 
 And can I pass my granddad's phone call on to you when he is stuck
 choosing among names that are absolutely obscure to him like GNOME,
 Xfce, and KDE?

If we are the universal OS, we shouldn't just focus on non-experts, we
shall try to satisfy everyone. If someone implements the choice thing
(after years we're talking about, I still have hope...), then it's
probably a good thing to keep it in the expert mode only. Which of
course leads to: we still have a default to decide, in the case of the
non-expert mode.

Then, maybe a GR for deciding which DE should be the default could be
considered. It's not like the init system: I think every DD has enough
knowledge to decide, especially because this is a very subjective choice
with tastes and habits involved (TWM anyone? :)). I'm not sure I would
like to take the burden of being the person proposing the GR and writing
the text though, and I would prefer to first discuss if it is a good
idea to do that (some may very dislike that idea).

Thomas Goirand (zigo)


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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Gunnar Wolf
John Holland dijo [Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 07:27:11PM -0400]:
 How about something completely different: Enlinghtenment?
 
 No, I'm not kidding

If we are offering users something different, we should go for
technical excellence. And I have never seen a group where tiling
window managers are more favored than Debian. We have to teach our
users how to be more productive, and how to make themselves more
unique. So, I suggest we ship a desktop consisting of:

- Window manager: i3
- File browser: urxvt
- Photo viewer: caca-utils
- Web browser: lynx
- Mail client: mutt
- Instant messenger: irssi
- Productivity suite: emacs
- Music app: supercollider
- Media player: mplayer (on libcaca, of course)

(TBH, I am a regular user of most of those packages, and in fact most
of the time I'm using only that plus two X-native applictions)


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Accepted sitesummary 0.1.10 (source all)

2014-04-04 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
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Source: sitesummary
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Version: 0.1.10
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers debian-...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Petter Reinholdtsen p...@debian.org
Description: 
 sitesummary - Generate site summary of submitting hosts (server part)
 sitesummary-client - Generate site summary of submitting hosts (client part)
Changes: 
 sitesummary (0.1.10) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Drop Morten Werner Forsbring, Steffen Joeris and Patrick Winnertz as
 uploaders.  Thank you for your good work!
   * Move package upstream source from svn to git.  Update Vcs-* values
 in debian/control to reflect this.
   * Update from debhelper version 5 to 9.
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Accepted nova 2014.1~rc1-1 (source all)

2014-04-04 Thread Thomas Goirand
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Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2014 07:55:24 +0800
Source: nova
Binary: python-nova nova-common nova-compute nova-compute-lxc nova-compute-uml 
nova-compute-qemu nova-compute-kvm nova-conductor nova-cert nova-scheduler 
nova-volume nova-api nova-network nova-console nova-consoleauth nova-doc 
nova-cells nova-baremetal nova-consoleproxy
Architecture: source all
Version: 2014.1~rc1-1
Distribution: experimental
Urgency: low
Maintainer: PKG OpenStack openstack-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org
Description: 
 nova-api   - OpenStack Compute - compute API frontend
 nova-baremetal - Openstack Compute - baremetal virt
 nova-cells - Openstack Compute - cells
 nova-cert  - OpenStack Compute - certificate manager
 nova-common - OpenStack Compute - common files
 nova-compute - OpenStack Compute - compute node
 nova-compute-kvm - OpenStack Compute - compute node (KVM)
 nova-compute-lxc - OpenStack Compute - compute node (LXC)
 nova-compute-qemu - OpenStack Compute - compute node (QEmu)
 nova-compute-uml - OpenStack Compute - compute node (UserModeLinux)
 nova-conductor - OpenStack Compute - conductor service
 nova-console - OpenStack Compute - console
 nova-consoleauth - OpenStack Compute - Console Authenticator
 nova-consoleproxy - OpenStack Compute - NoVNC proxy
 nova-doc   - OpenStack Compute - documentation
 nova-network - OpenStack Compute - network manager
 nova-scheduler - OpenStack Compute - virtual machine scheduler
 nova-volume - OpenStack Compute - storage metapackage
 python-nova - OpenStack Compute - libraries
Changes: 
 nova (2014.1~rc1-1) experimental; urgency=low
 .
   [ Thomas Goirand ]
   * New upstream release.
   * Reviewed (build-)dependencies.
 .
   [ Gustavo Panizzo ]
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Accepted python-scrapy 0.22.2-3 (source all)

2014-04-04 Thread Vincent Cheng
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Maintainer: Debian Python Modules Team 
python-modules-t...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Vincent Cheng vch...@debian.org
Description: 
 python-scrapy - Python web scraping and crawling framework
 python-scrapy-doc - Python web scraping and crawling framework documentation
Closes: 743315
Changes: 
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 .
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Accepted glance 2014.1~rc1-1 (source all)

2014-04-04 Thread Thomas Goirand
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Version: 2014.1~rc1-1
Distribution: experimental
Urgency: low
Maintainer: PKG OpenStack openstack-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org
Description: 
 glance - OpenStack Image Service - metapackage
 glance-api - OpenStack Image Service - API server
 glance-common - OpenStack Image Service - common files
 glance-registry - OpenStack Image Service - registry server
 python-glance - OpenStack Image Service - Python client library
 python-glance-doc - OpenStack Image Service - Python library documentation
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 .
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   * Reviewed (build-)depends for this release.
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Accepted bovo 4:4.11.3-2 (source amd64)

2014-04-04 Thread Maximiliano Curia
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Maximiliano Curia m...@debian.org
Description: 
 bovo   - gomoku (five in line) board game
Changes: 
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Accepted git-buildpackage 0.6.13 (source all)

2014-04-04 Thread Guido Günther
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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Guido Günther a...@sigxcpu.org
Changed-By: Guido Günther a...@sigxcpu.org
Description: 
 git-buildpackage - Suite to help with Debian packages in Git repositories
Closes: 733470 733759
Changes: 
 git-buildpackage (0.6.13) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Guido Günther ]
   * [14f6ded] Test option parser fallbacks more thoroughly
 revealing another bug where we overwrote parsed values with defaults
 (Closes: #733759)
   * [03ada72] .gitignore: ignore editor backup files
   * [4c6b067] Add minimal 'config' command.  This only allows to print single
 config values so far. (Closes: #733470)
   * [b393080] Import command not module. This matches the function name.
   * [459d9bf] config: add decorator to add_option_* functions.
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 these.
 .
   [ Markus Lehtonen ]
   * [a8cfd88] Revert GitRepository/add_remote_repo: fix the 'tags' argument
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Accepted haskell-exceptions 0.5-1 (source all amd64)

2014-04-04 Thread Joachim Breitner
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Version: 0.5-1
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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Haskell Group 
pkg-haskell-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Joachim Breitner nome...@debian.org
Description: 
 libghc-exceptions-dev - ${haskell:ShortDescription}${haskell:ShortBlurb}
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 .
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Accepted hbro 1.1.2.2-2 (source all amd64)

2014-04-04 Thread Joachim Breitner
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Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 09:58:08 +0200
Source: hbro
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Architecture: source all amd64
Version: 1.1.2.2-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Haskell Group 
pkg-haskell-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Joachim Breitner nome...@debian.org
Description: 
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 .
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Accepted kbounce 4:4.11.3-2 (source amd64)

2014-04-04 Thread Maximiliano Curia
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Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Maximiliano Curia m...@debian.org
Description: 
 kbounce- Jezzball arcade game
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Accepted kblackbox 4:4.11.3-2 (source amd64)

2014-04-04 Thread Maximiliano Curia
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Version: 4:4.11.3-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Maximiliano Curia m...@debian.org
Description: 
 kblackbox  - Black Box puzzle game
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 .
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Accepted hbro 1.1.2.2-1 (source all amd64)

2014-04-04 Thread Joachim Breitner
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Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 09:35:10 +0200
Source: hbro
Binary: hbro libghc-hbro-dev libghc-hbro-prof libghc-hbro-doc
Architecture: source all amd64
Version: 1.1.2.2-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Haskell Group 
pkg-haskell-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Joachim Breitner nome...@debian.org
Description: 
 hbro   - minimal KISS-compliant web browser
 libghc-hbro-dev - minimal KISS-compliant web browser${haskell:ShortBlurb}
 libghc-hbro-doc - minimal KISS-compliant web browser${haskell:ShortBlurb}
 libghc-hbro-prof - minimal KISS-compliant web browser${haskell:ShortBlurb}
Changes: 
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 .
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   * Fix path to test whether -threaded is supported by GHC
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Accepted haskell-pipes-safe 2.1.0-1 (source all amd64)

2014-04-04 Thread Joachim Breitner
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Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 09:35:13 +0200
Source: haskell-pipes-safe
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Architecture: source all amd64
Version: 2.1.0-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Haskell Group 
pkg-haskell-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Joachim Breitner nome...@debian.org
Description: 
 libghc-pipes-safe-dev - ${haskell:ShortDescription}${haskell:ShortBlurb}
 libghc-pipes-safe-doc - ${haskell:ShortDescription}${haskell:ShortBlurb}
 libghc-pipes-safe-prof - ${haskell:ShortDescription}${haskell:ShortBlurb}
Changes: 
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 .
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Accepted kcolorchooser 4:4.11.3-2 (source amd64)

2014-04-04 Thread Maximiliano Curia
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Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:21:14 +0200
Source: kcolorchooser
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Architecture: source amd64
Version: 4:4.11.3-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Maximiliano Curia m...@debian.org
Description: 
 kcolorchooser - color chooser and palette editor
Changes: 
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 .
   * Bump Standards-Version to 3.9.5, no changes needed.
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Accepted kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer 4:4.11.3-2 (source amd64)

2014-04-04 Thread Maximiliano Curia
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Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:20:59 +0200
Source: kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer
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Architecture: source amd64
Version: 4:4.11.3-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Maximiliano Curia m...@debian.org
Description: 
 kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer - graphics file format plugins for Strigi Desktop 
Search
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 .
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Accepted kfourinline 4:4.11.3-2 (source amd64)

2014-04-04 Thread Maximiliano Curia
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Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:20:58 +0200
Source: kfourinline
Binary: kfourinline
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 4:4.11.3-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Maximiliano Curia m...@debian.org
Description: 
 kfourinline - Connect Four game
Changes: 
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 .
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   * Bump Standards-Version to 3.9.5, no changes needed.
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Accepted kdenetwork-strigi-analyzers 4:4.11.3-2 (source amd64)

2014-04-04 Thread Maximiliano Curia
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Source: kdenetwork-strigi-analyzers
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Architecture: source amd64
Version: 4:4.11.3-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Maximiliano Curia m...@debian.org
Description: 
 kdenetwork-strigi-analyzers - Network related analyzers for Strigi Desktop 
Search
Changes: 
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Accepted klettres 4:4.11.3-2 (source amd64 all)

2014-04-04 Thread Maximiliano Curia
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Version: 4:4.11.3-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Maximiliano Curia m...@debian.org
Description: 
 klettres   - foreign alphabet tutor for KDE
 klettres-data - data files for KLettres foreign alphabet tutor
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Accepted kdesdk-strigi-analyzers 4:4.11.3-2 (source amd64)

2014-04-04 Thread Maximiliano Curia
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Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:21:00 +0200
Source: kdesdk-strigi-analyzers
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Architecture: source amd64
Version: 4:4.11.3-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Maximiliano Curia m...@debian.org
Description: 
 kdesdk-strigi-plugins - software development file format plugins for Strigi 
Desktop Searc
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Accepted kde-workspace 4:4.11.8-1 (source all amd64)

2014-04-04 Thread Maximiliano Curia
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Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:21:07 +0200
Source: kde-workspace
Binary: kde-workspace kdebase-workspace plasma-desktop plasma-netbook 
kde-workspace-bin kdebase-workspace-bin kde-workspace-data kde-workspace-dev 
kdebase-workspace-dev plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-widgets-workspace 
plasma-scriptengines plasma-scriptengine-ruby plasma-scriptengine-python 
plasma-scriptengine-webkit freespacenotifier kdm kinfocenter klipper ksysguardd 
ksysguard kde-window-manager libkdecorations4abi2 libkwineffects1abi5 
systemsettings kde-workspace-kgreet-plugins kde-style-oxygen kmenuedit 
libkephal4abi1 libkscreensaver5 libksgrd4 libksignalplotter4 libkworkspace4abi2 
liblsofui4 libplasmaclock4abi4 libplasma-geolocation-interface4 
libkwinglutils1abi2 libkwinglesutils1 libplasmagenericshell4 
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kde-workspace-dbg kdebase-workspace-dbg ktouchpadenabler kde-workspace-randr
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Version: 4:4.11.8-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Maximiliano Curia m...@debian.org
Description: 
 freespacenotifier - free space notification module for KDE
 kde-style-oxygen - Oxygen widget style
 kde-window-manager - K window manager (KWin)
 kde-workspace - KDE Plasma Workspace components
 kde-workspace-bin - core binaries for the KDE Plasma Workspace
 kde-workspace-data - shared data files for the KDE Plasma Workspace
 kde-workspace-dbg - debugging symbols for the KDE Plasma Workspaces
 kde-workspace-dev - development files for the KDE Plasma Workspace
 kde-workspace-kgreet-plugins - KDE greet libraries for authentication
 kde-workspace-randr - randr tools from kde-workspace
 kdebase-workspace - transitional package for kde-workspace
 kdebase-workspace-bin - transitional package for kde-workspace-bin
 kdebase-workspace-dbg - transitional package for kde-workspace-dbg
 kdebase-workspace-dev - transitional package for kde-workspace-dev
 kdm- KDE Display Manager for X11
 kinfocenter - system information viewer
 klipper- clipboard manager
 kmenuedit  - XDG menu editor
 ksysguard  - process monitor and system statistics
 ksysguardd - System Guard Daemon
 ktouchpadenabler - kded daemon to enable/disable touchpad
 libkdecorations4abi2 - library used by decorations for the KDE window manager
 libkephal4abi1 - API for easier handling of multihead systems
 libkscreensaver5 - library of the KDE Screensaver system
 libksgrd4  - library for ksysguard
 libksignalplotter4 - KSignalPlotter widget
 libkwineffects1abi5 - library used by effects for the KDE window manager
 libkwinglesutils1 - library with OpenGL/ES utilities for the KDE window manager
 libkwinglutils1abi2 - library with OpenGL utilities for the KDE window manager
 libkworkspace4abi2 - library for the kdebase workspace
 liblsofui4 - library for ksysguard's list of open files
 libplasma-geolocation-interface4 - library for the Plasma geolocation
 libplasmaclock4abi4 - library for Plasma clocks
 libplasmagenericshell4 - shared elements for all the plasma shells
 libprocesscore4abi1 - library for ksysguard based process view
 libprocessui4a - library for ksysguard process user interface
 libtaskmanager4abi4 - library which provides task management facilities
 libweather-ion6 - library which provides an interface for weather information 
servi
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 plasma-desktop - KDE Plasma workspace for desktop and laptop computers
 plasma-netbook - KDE Plasma workspace for netbook computers
 plasma-scriptengine-python - Python script engine for Plasma
 plasma-scriptengine-ruby - Ruby script engine for Plasma
 plasma-scriptengine-webkit - Web and Mac OS X dashboard widget support for 
Plasma
 plasma-scriptengines - metapackage to install all Plasma script engines
 plasma-widgets-workspace - plasma widgets and containments for the KDE Plasma 
Workspace
 systemsettings - System Settings
Changes: 
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Accepted kdegraphics-thumbnailers 4:4.11.3-2 (source amd64)

2014-04-04 Thread Maximiliano Curia
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Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:20:57 +0200
Source: kdegraphics-thumbnailers
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Architecture: source amd64
Version: 4:4.11.3-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Maximiliano Curia m...@debian.org
Description: 
 kdegraphics-thumbnailers - graphics file format thumbnailers for KDE SC
Changes: 
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 .
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Accepted ksaneplugin 4:4.11.3-2 (source amd64)

2014-04-04 Thread Maximiliano Curia
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Version: 4:4.11.3-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Maximiliano Curia m...@debian.org
Description: 
 ksaneplugin - KScan plugin for scanning through libksane
Changes: 
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 .
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Accepted libnm-qt 0.9.8.1-3 (source amd64)

2014-04-04 Thread Maximiliano Curia
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Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:20:56 +0200
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Version: 0.9.8.1-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian KDE Extras Team pkg-kde-ext...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Maximiliano Curia m...@debian.org
Description: 
 libnetworkmanagerqt-dbg - Qt wrapper for NetworkManager API -- debugging 
symbols
 libnetworkmanagerqt-dev - Qt wrapper for NetworkManager API -- development 
files
 libnetworkmanagerqt1 - Qt wrapper for NetworkManager API
Changes: 
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 .
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Accepted korundum 4:4.11.3-3 (source all amd64)

2014-04-04 Thread Maximiliano Curia
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Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:21:03 +0200
Source: korundum
Binary: korundum ruby-kde4 ruby-kde4-dbg ruby-akonadi ruby-okular ruby-plasma 
ruby-soprano
Architecture: source all amd64
Version: 4:4.11.3-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Maximiliano Curia m...@debian.org
Description: 
 korundum   - Ruby bindings for the KDE Development Platform
 ruby-akonadi - Akonadi Ruby bindings
 ruby-kde4  - KDE bindings for the Ruby language
 ruby-kde4-dbg - Debug symbols for the KDE ruby bindings
 ruby-okular - Okular Ruby bindings
 ruby-plasma - Plasma Ruby bindings
 ruby-soprano - Soprano Ruby bindings
Closes: 739123
Changes: 
 korundum (4:4.11.3-3) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
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Accepted poxml 4:4.11.3-2 (source amd64)

2014-04-04 Thread Maximiliano Curia
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Version: 4:4.11.3-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Maximiliano Curia m...@debian.org
Description: 
 poxml  - tools for translating DocBook XML files with Gettext
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 .
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Accepted probabel 0.4.3-1 (source amd64 all)

2014-04-04 Thread L.C. Karssen
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Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2014 09:54:54 +0200
Source: probabel
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Architecture: source amd64 all
Version: 0.4.3-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Med Packaging Team 
debian-med-packag...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: L.C. Karssen lenn...@karssen.org
Description: 
 probabel   - Toolset for Genome-Wide Association Analysis
 probabel-examples - Example files for ProbABEL
Changes: 
 probabel (0.4.3-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   [ L.C. Karssen ]
   * New upstream release fixing two bugs and speeding up analysis in
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   * Add texlive-fonts-recommended to Build-Depends
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Accepted qtruby 4:4.11.3-3 (source amd64 all)

2014-04-04 Thread Maximiliano Curia
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Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:21:11 +0200
Source: qtruby
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ruby-qt4-uitools ruby-qt4-webkit libqt4-ruby libqt4-ruby1.8
Architecture: source amd64 all
Version: 4:4.11.3-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Maximiliano Curia m...@debian.org
Description: 
 libqt4-ruby - transitional package for ruby-qt4
 libqt4-ruby1.8 - transitional package for ruby-qt4
 libqtruby4shared-dev - internal library for Qt 4 Ruby bindings -- development
 libqtruby4shared2 - internal library for Qt 4 Ruby bindings
 ruby-phonon - Phonon bindings for the Ruby language
 ruby-qscintilla2 - QScintilla2 bindings for the Ruby language
 ruby-qt4   - Qt 4 bindings for the Ruby language
 ruby-qt4-dbg - Qt 4 bindings for the Ruby language -- debug symbols
 ruby-qt4-declarative - QtDeclarative bindings for the Ruby language
 ruby-qt4-script - QtScript bindings for the Ruby language
 ruby-qt4-test - QtTest bindings for the Ruby language
 ruby-qt4-uitools - QtUiTools bindings for the Ruby language
 ruby-qt4-webkit - QtWebKit bindings for the Ruby language
Closes: 739769
Changes: 
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   * Aesthetic changes made by wrap-and-sort.
   * Build against ruby 2.0. (Closes: #739769)
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Accepted ruby-sigar 0.7.2-3 (source amd64)

2014-04-04 Thread Pirate Praveen
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Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Ruby Extras Maintainers 
pkg-ruby-extras-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Pirate Praveen prav...@debian.org
Description: 
 ruby-sigar - System Information Gatherer And Reporter
Changes: 
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Accepted smokekde 4:4.11.3-2 (source amd64)

2014-04-04 Thread Maximiliano Curia
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Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:21:13 +0200
Source: smokekde
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Architecture: source amd64
Version: 4:4.11.3-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Maximiliano Curia m...@debian.org
Description: 
 libsmokeakonadi3 - Akonadi SMOKE library
 libsmokeattica3 - Attica SMOKE library
 libsmokekde-dev - KDE SMOKE libraries -- development files
 libsmokekde4-dbg - KDE SMOKE libraries -- debug symbols
 libsmokekdecore4-3 - KDE Core SMOKE libraries
 libsmokekdeui4-3 - KDE Ui SMOKE libraries
 libsmokekfile3 - KFile SMOKE library
 libsmokekhtml3 - KHTML SMOKE library
 libsmokekio3 - KIO SMOKE library
 libsmokeknewstuff2-3 - KNewStuff2 SMOKE library
 libsmokeknewstuff3-3 - KNewStuff3 SMOKE library
 libsmokekparts3 - KParts SMOKE libraries
 libsmokektexteditor3 - KTextEditor SMOKE libraries
 libsmokekutils3 - KUtils SMOKE libraries
 libsmokenepomuk3 - Nepomuk SMOKE libraries
 libsmokenepomukquery3 - Nepomuk Query SMOKE libraries
 libsmokeokular3 - Okular SMOKE bindings
 libsmokeplasma3 - Plasma SMOKE library
 libsmokesolid3 - Solid SMOKE libraries
 libsmokesoprano3 - Soprano SMOKE library
 libsmokesopranoclient3 - Soprano Client SMOKE library
 libsmokesopranoserver3 - Soprano Server SMOKE library
Changes: 
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Accepted svgpart 4:4.11.3-2 (source amd64)

2014-04-04 Thread Maximiliano Curia
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Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:21:01 +0200
Source: svgpart
Binary: svgpart
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 4:4.11.3-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Maximiliano Curia m...@debian.org
Description: 
 svgpart- KDE SVG KPart
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Accepted ceilometer 2014.1~rc1-1 (source all)

2014-04-04 Thread Thomas Goirand
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Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 13:25:59 +0800
Source: ceilometer
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Version: 2014.1~rc1-1
Distribution: experimental
Urgency: low
Maintainer: PKG OpenStack openstack-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org
Description: 
 ceilometer-agent-central - OpenStack efficient metering counters system - 
central agent
 ceilometer-agent-compute - OpenStack efficient metering counters system - 
compute agent
 ceilometer-agent-notification - OpenStack efficient metering counters system - 
alarm notifier
 ceilometer-alarm-evaluator - OpenStack efficient metering counters system - 
alarm evaluator
 ceilometer-alarm-notifier - OpenStack efficient metering counters system - 
alarm notifier
 ceilometer-api - OpenStack efficient metering counters system (API service)
 ceilometer-collector - OpenStack efficient metering counters system - 
collector service
 ceilometer-common - OpenStack efficient metering counters system - common files
 python-ceilometer - OpenStack efficient metering counters system - Python 
libraries
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Accepted ruby-hitimes 1.2.1-2 (source amd64)

2014-04-04 Thread Pirate Praveen
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Source: ruby-hitimes
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Version: 1.2.1-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Ruby Extras Maintainers 
pkg-ruby-extras-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Pirate Praveen prav...@debian.org
Description: 
 ruby-hitimes - fast, high resolution timer for recording performance metrics
Changes: 
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- drop ruby1.9.1 and add ruby2.1
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Accepted python-dugong 2.2+dfsg-1 (source all)

2014-04-04 Thread Nikolaus Rath
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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 16:41:30 -0700
Source: python-dugong
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Version: 2.2+dfsg-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Nikolaus Rath nikol...@rath.org
Changed-By: Nikolaus Rath nikol...@rath.org
Description: 
 python-dugong-doc - HTTP 1.1 client module for Python (documentation)
 python3-dugong - HTTP 1.1 client module for Python
Closes: 741387
Changes: 
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Accepted ruby-http 0.5.0-1 (source all)

2014-04-04 Thread Pirate Praveen
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Source: ruby-http
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Version: 0.5.0-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Ruby Extras Maintainers 
pkg-ruby-extras-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Pirate Praveen prav...@debian.org
Description: 
 ruby-http  - easy-to-use client library for making http requests from Ruby
Closes: 743475
Changes: 
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Accepted xpra 0.12.2+dfsg-1 (source amd64)

2014-04-04 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
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Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 13:05:15 +1100
Source: xpra
Binary: xpra xpra-dbg
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 0.12.2+dfsg-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Python Applications Packaging Team 
python-apps-t...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Dmitry Smirnov only...@debian.org
Description: 
 xpra   - tool to detach/reattach running X programs
 xpra-dbg   - xpra -- debugging symbols
Changes: 
 xpra (0.12.2+dfsg-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release [March 2014].
   * Build-Depends:
 + pkg-config
 + libavutil-dev
   * Added lintian-override for false-positives spelling-error-in-binary.
   * Enabled xpra-dbg package.
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Accepted trafficserver 4.1.2-1.2 (source mipsel)

2014-04-04 Thread Anibal Monsalve Salazar
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Source: trafficserver
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Architecture: source mipsel
Version: 4.1.2-1.2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Arno Töll a...@debian.org
Changed-By: Anibal Monsalve Salazar ani...@debian.org
Description: 
 trafficserver - fast, scalable and extensible HTTP/1.1 compliant caching proxy 
se
 trafficserver-dev - Apache Traffic Server Software Developers Kit (SDK)
Closes: 743584
Changes: 
 trafficserver (4.1.2-1.2) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Non-maintainer upload.
   * Add missing prototype for pthread_setname_np()
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Accepted ruby-json 1.8.1-1 (source amd64)

2014-04-04 Thread Pirate Praveen
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Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 15:23:28 +0530
Source: ruby-json
Binary: ruby-json
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 1.8.1-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Ruby Extras Maintainers 
pkg-ruby-extras-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Pirate Praveen prav...@debian.org
Description: 
 ruby-json  - JSON library for Ruby
Changes: 
 ruby-json (1.8.1-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Team upload
   * New upstream release
   * Bump standards version to 3.9.5 (no changes)
   * Bump gem2deb build dep to 0.7.4~
 - drop ruby1.8, ruby1.9.1 and add ruby2.0, ruby 2.1
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Accepted ipset 6.21.1-2 (source amd64)

2014-04-04 Thread Neutron Soutmun
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Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 16:23:02 +0700
Source: ipset
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Architecture: source amd64
Version: 6.21.1-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Neutron Soutmun neo.neut...@gmail.com
Changed-By: Neutron Soutmun neo.neut...@gmail.com
Description: 
 ipset  - administration tool for kernel IP sets
 libipset-dev - development files for IP sets
 libipset3  - library for IP sets
Changes: 
 ipset (6.21.1-2) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Add tests follow the DEP8
 * debian/control:
   - Add XS-Testsuite: autopkgtest
 * debian/tests/control:
   - Add test control file
 * debian/tests/regression:
   - Add regression test wrapper for tests/runtest.sh
   * Add a patch to make the test scripts run in as-installed situation
 * d/patches/03-Pass-IPSET_BIN-to-test-scripts-to-change-binary-loca.patch:
   - It is required to make the test scripts run in as-installed
 situation, the scripts should invokes the system installed ipset
 binary.
   * Add a patch to drop unsupported module test
 * debian/patches/03-temporary-drop-ipmarkhash-test.patch:
   - Temporary drop the ipmarkhash test as the Debian kernel is not
 support yet.
   * Add a patch to delay the set with timeout resizing test
 * debian/patches/05-delay-the-set-with-timeout-resizing-test.patch:
   - The set with timeout resizing sometimes finish early, the condition
 fail with false-positive. Add 1 more second delay to satisfy the
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Accepted ruby-curb 0.8.5-2 (source amd64)

2014-04-04 Thread Pirate Praveen
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Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 14:45:58 +0530
Source: ruby-curb
Binary: ruby-curb
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 0.8.5-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Ruby Extras Maintainers 
pkg-ruby-extras-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Pirate Praveen prav...@debian.org
Description: 
 ruby-curb  - Ruby libcurl bindings
Changes: 
 ruby-curb (0.8.5-2) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Bump standards version to 3.9.5
   * Bump gem2deb dependency to 0.7.4~
 - drop ruby1.9.1 and add ruby2.1
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Accepted ruby-bson-ext 1.10.0-1 (source amd64)

2014-04-04 Thread Pirate Praveen
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Source: ruby-bson-ext
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Version: 1.10.0-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Ruby Extras Maintainers 
pkg-ruby-extras-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Pirate Praveen prav...@debian.org
Description: 
 ruby-bson-ext - C extensions to accelerate the Ruby BSON serialization
Changes: 
 ruby-bson-ext (1.10.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Team upload.
   *  New upstream release
   * Bump standards version to 3.9.5 (no changes)
   * Bump gem2deb build dep to 0.7.4~
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Accepted ganglia-web 3.6.1-1 (source all)

2014-04-04 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 11:41:22 +0200
Source: ganglia-web
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Architecture: source all
Version: 3.6.1-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: high
Maintainer: Debian Monitoring Maintainers 
pkg-monitoring-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.pro
Description: 
 ganglia-webfrontend - cluster monitoring toolkit - web front-end
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 .
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