Re: deb.debian.org [was: Re: howto avoid "apt-get update" going guru?]
On Thu, Jul 07, 2016 at 11:03:16PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > ]] Josh Triplett > > > Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > > > I personally recommend using deb.debian.org. > > > > > > That works nicely, thanks! Seems to have decent performance. > > Ah, that makes sense. I look forward to the announcement. > > When you make the announcement, can you include a link to the details of > the CDN, such as the extent of its caching servers? That would help > people determine if using it will likely produce good results for them. The locality of this CDN seems to be... not the best. In Poland, there's 11 mirrors (according to choose-mirror 2.69), and httpredir.debian.net always gives me one of those. Not the closest one network- or geography- wise, but in a country the size of Poland, that's good enough. deb.debian.org on the other hand, trying from two locations over three ISPs: Starogard Gdański/Netia, Starogard Gdański/UPC, Gdańsk/Limes: * IPv6: Amsterdam or London * IPv4: MIT, San Francisco, London -- An imaginary friend squared is a real enemy.
deb.debian.org [was: Re: howto avoid "apt-get update" going guru?]
[Please CC me on replies.] Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > ]] Josh Triplett > > Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > > I personally recommend using deb.debian.org. > > > > That works nicely, thanks! Seems to have decent performance. > > > > I couldn't find any announcement or documentation of this, other than > > that on the site itself, though I did find a use of it in a recent > > announcement of dbgsym packages. > > It's somewhat in beta yet. I should probably write up an announcement > about it. Ah, that makes sense. I look forward to the announcement. When you make the announcement, can you include a link to the details of the CDN, such as the extent of its caching servers? That would help people determine if using it will likely produce good results for them. > > Does the CDN this uses download and cache packages on first request? > > Because I noticed when testing it that if I requested a package > > reasonably unlikely to have already been fetched, it would hang at "0% > > [Waiting for headers]" for a long time (minutes). But if I reattempted > > that same package later, it would download just fine. > > This was a bug and should be fixed now. (It downloads on first request, > but it streams, so there should not be a big initial delay.) Out of curiosity, what was the bug? - Josh Triplett
Re: howto avoid "apt-get update" going guru?
]] Josh Triplett > Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > I personally recommend using deb.debian.org. > > That works nicely, thanks! Seems to have decent performance. > > I couldn't find any announcement or documentation of this, other than > that on the site itself, though I did find a use of it in a recent > announcement of dbgsym packages. It's somewhat in beta yet. I should probably write up an announcement about it. > Does the CDN this uses download and cache packages on first request? > Because I noticed when testing it that if I requested a package > reasonably unlikely to have already been fetched, it would hang at "0% > [Waiting for headers]" for a long time (minutes). But if I reattempted > that same package later, it would download just fine. This was a bug and should be fixed now. (It downloads on first request, but it streams, so there should not be a big initial delay.) -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are
Bug#830306: ITP: python-parsimonious -- fast pure-Python PEG parser
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬)" * Package name: python-parsimonious Version : 0.6.2 Upstream Author : Erik Rose * URL : https://github.com/erikrose/parsimonious * License : Expat Programming Lang: python Description : fastest pure-Python PEG parser I could muster Parsimonious aims to be the fastest arbitrary-lookahead parser written in pure Python—and the most usable. It's based on parsing expression grammars (PEGs), which means you feed it a simplified sort of EBNF notation. Parsimonious was designed to undergird a MediaWiki parser that wouldn't take 5 seconds or a GB of RAM to do one page, but it's applicable to all sorts of languages. . The goals of Parsimonious are: . * Speed * Frugal RAM use * Minimalistic, understandable, idiomatic Python code * Readable grammars * Extensible grammars * Complete test coverage * Separation of concerns. Some Python parsing kits mix recognition with instructions about how to turn the resulting tree into some kind of other representation. This is limiting when you want to do several different things with a tree: for example, render wiki markup to HTML or to text. * Good error reporting. I want the parser to work with me as I develop a grammar. -- ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬) Debian Developer (https://nm.debian.org/public/person/czchen) Key fingerprint = EC9F 905D 866D BE46 A896 C827 BE0C 9242 03F4 552D BA04 346D C2E1 FE63 C790 8793 CC65 B0CD EC27 5D5B signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Work-needing packages report for Jul 8, 2016
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 748 (new: 8) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 175 (new: 3) Total number of packages requested help for: 47 (new: 0) Please refer to http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ for more information. The following packages have been orphaned: gaim-themes (#830285), orphaned today Description: Smiley themes collection for pidgin Reverse Depends: gaim-themes Installations reported by Popcon: 875 libapache2-mod-lisp (#829682), orphaned 2 days ago Description: An Apache2 module that interfaces with Lisp environments Reverse Depends: cl-modlisp Installations reported by Popcon: 56 libdc0 (#829318), orphaned 5 days ago Description: Runtime libraries for Valknut Reverse Depends: libdc-dev valknut Installations reported by Popcon: 18 lostirc (#830284), orphaned today Description: simple gtk-based IRC client Installations reported by Popcon: 51 powermgmt-base (#829683), orphaned 2 days ago Description: Common utils and configs for power management Reverse Depends: apmd pm-utils Installations reported by Popcon: 75153 tinymux (#830140), orphaned yesterday Description: text-based multi-user virtual world server Installations reported by Popcon: 56 uudeview (#829684), orphaned 2 days ago Description: Smart multi-file multi-part decoder (command line) Reverse Depends: brag libuu-dev slrn tin uudeview xdeview Installations reported by Popcon: 1867 valknut (#829317), orphaned 5 days ago Description: graphical client for Direct Connect Reverse Depends: valknut-translations Installations reported by Popcon: 40 740 older packages have been omitted from this listing, see http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/orphaned for a complete list. The following packages have been given up for adoption: django-conneg (#829594), offered 3 days ago Description: Framework for content-negotiated views in Django Installations reported by Popcon: 3 django-ldapdb (#829596), offered 3 days ago Description: LDAP database backend for Django Installations reported by Popcon: 4 musl (#830176), offered today Description: standard C library Reverse Depends: musl-dev musl-tools Installations reported by Popcon: 80 172 older packages have been omitted from this listing, see http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/rfa_bypackage for a complete list. For the following packages help is requested: athcool (#278442), requested 4272 days ago Description: Enable powersaving mode for Athlon/Duron processors Installations reported by Popcon: 24 awstats (#755797), requested 715 days ago Description: powerful and featureful web server log analyzer Installations reported by Popcon: 4135 balsa (#642906), requested 1747 days ago Description: An e-mail client for GNOME Reverse Depends: balsa-dbg Installations reported by Popcon: 615 cardstories (#624100), requested 1900 days ago Description: Find out a card using a sentence made up by another player Installations reported by Popcon: 6 courier (#823807), requested 59 days ago Reverse Depends: courier-faxmail courier-filter-perl courier-imap courier-imap-ssl courier-ldap courier-mlm courier-mta courier-mta-ssl courier-pcp courier-pop (7 more omitted) Installations reported by Popcon: 2217 cups (#532097), requested 2588 days ago Description: Common UNIX Printing System Reverse Depends: bluez-cups boomaga chromium cinnamon-settings-daemon cloudprint cups cups-backend-bjnp cups-browsed cups-bsd cups-client (62 more omitted) Installations reported by Popcon: 166975 cyrus-sasl2 (#799864), requested 288 days ago Description: authentication abstraction library Reverse Depends: 389-ds-base 389-ds-base-libs 389-dsgw adcli autofs-ldap cairo-dock-mail-plug-in claws-mail claws-mail-acpi-notifier claws-mail-address-keeper claws-mail-archiver-plugin (133 more omitted) Installations reported by Popcon: 187809 developers-reference (#759995), requested 677 days ago Description: guidelines and information for Debian developers Installations reported by Popcon: 19003 devscripts (#800413), requested 282 days ago Description: scripts to make the life of a Debian Package maintainer easier Reverse Depends: apt-build apt-listdifferences aptfs arriero bzr-builddeb customdeb debci debian-builder debmake debpear (27 more omitted)
Re: Re: /usr/share/doc/ filed and gzip/xz/no compression luck
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Bug#830293: ITP: checkit-tiff -- checkit_tiff is a conformance checker for baseline TIFFs, needed for longterm preservation community
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Romeyke * Package name: checkit-tiff Version : 0.1.1 Upstream Author : Andreas Romeyke * URL : https://github.com/SLUB-digitalpreservation/checkit_tiff * License : Hylafax (same as libtiff) Programming Lang: C Description : checkit_tiff is a conformance checker for baseline TIFFs, needed for longterm preservation community "checkit_tiff" is a conformance checker for baseline TIFFs (with various extensions). It works in different way than other tools. Instead to use a hardcoded rule set with predefined values, you are able to define tags and corresponding values more fine granulary. The rulesets are human readable and could be adapted to own needs. The "checkit_tiff" works on commandline and therefore it is embedable in scripts The tools are developed for purposes of curation and longterm preservation. I would try to package it within pkg-phototools-devel. Because I am a Debian packing beginner, please do not hesitate to contact me and give me some tips. In long-term I will support more packages, too.
Bug#830292: ITP: django-setuptest -- simple test suite enabling Django app testing via setup.py
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Christopher Hoskin * Package name: django-setuptest Version : 0.2.1 Upstream Author : Praekelt Consulting * URL : https://github.com/praekelt/django-setuptest/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Description : simple test suite enabling Django app testing via setup.py Django Setuptest is a simple module enabling Django app testing via setup.py. . Normally when you execute . $ python setup.py test . for Django related modules you're almost certain to run into DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE environment variable issues, e.g.: . ImportError: Settings cannot be imported, because environment variable DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE is undefined. . This module overcomes this by configuring the DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE environment variable before executing your test suite. As a bonus it also generates Coverage and PEP 8 reports as part of the test. As sid includes both python-django and python3-django I propose both Python 2 and 3 binary packages should be provided. This package is a dependancy for django-memoize. I would hope that the Python Modules Team would be willing to maintain the package. I am not a DD, so require a sponsor.
Bug#830239: ITP: http-prompt -- interactive command-line HTTP client
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬)" * Package name: http-prompt Version : 0.4.1 Upstream Author : Chang-Hung Liang * URL : https://github.com/eliangcs/http-prompt/ * License : Expat Programming Lang: Python Description : interactive command-line HTTP client HTTP Prompt is an interactive command-line HTTP client featuring autocomplete and syntax highlighting, built on HTTPie and prompt_toolkit. -- ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬) Debian Developer (https://nm.debian.org/public/person/czchen) Key fingerprint = EC9F 905D 866D BE46 A896 C827 BE0C 9242 03F4 552D BA04 346D C2E1 FE63 C790 8793 CC65 B0CD EC27 5D5B signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#830217: ITP: r-cran-irlba -- GNU R fast truncated SVD, PCA and symmetric eigendecomposition
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Tille * Package name: r-cran-irlba Version : 2.0.0 Upstream Author : Bryan W. Lewis * URL : https://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/irlba * License : GPL Programming Lang: GNU R Description : GNU R fast truncated SVD, PCA and symmetric eigendecomposition This GNU R package provides Fast and memory efficient methods for truncated singular and eigenvalue decompositions and principal component analysis of large sparse or dense matrices. Remark: This package is needed to upgrade r-cran-phangorn which in turn is needed to package r-rcran-treescape. It will be maintained by the Debian Med team at svn://anonscm.debian.org/debian-med/trunk/packages/R/r-cran-irlba/trunk/
Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release
On Thu, Jul 07, 2016 at 12:24:03PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > On Thu, 07 Jul 2016, Riku Voipio wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 04, 2016 at 02:01:03PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > > There's something I've been pondering for a while, along with some > > > other folks - it might be useful to do a "jessie and a half" release, > > > similarly to what we did in the etch days. That's *basically* just > > > like a normal jessie release, but with a few key updates: > > > > > > * backports kernel > > > * rebuilt d-i to match that kernel > > > * X drivers > > > * ... (other things that might be needed for consistency) > > > > > > all rolled up with a small installer image build (netinst, maybe DVD#1). > > > > > > A lot of arm64 machine users would benefit from this > > > > One particular pain point is libssl. The version in jessie: > > > > - Is too old for providing HTTP/2 servers for chrome [1] > > - Lacks API features already used by apps like nodejs, #815272 > > - Has no arm64 optimizations > > > > The problem is that uploading latest openssl from unstable to > > jessie-backports is not really feasible (ABI break and security > > maintainance needed...). > In fact the maintainer uploaded a new openssl to backports and I approved it > an hour again or so. Great, I love to be proven wrong :) Thanks Kurt! Riku
Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release
On Thu, 07 Jul 2016, Riku Voipio wrote: > On Mon, Jul 04, 2016 at 02:01:03PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > There's something I've been pondering for a while, along with some > > other folks - it might be useful to do a "jessie and a half" release, > > similarly to what we did in the etch days. That's *basically* just > > like a normal jessie release, but with a few key updates: > > > > * backports kernel > > * rebuilt d-i to match that kernel > > * X drivers > > * ... (other things that might be needed for consistency) > > > > all rolled up with a small installer image build (netinst, maybe DVD#1). > > > > A lot of arm64 machine users would benefit from this > > One particular pain point is libssl. The version in jessie: > > - Is too old for providing HTTP/2 servers for chrome [1] > - Lacks API features already used by apps like nodejs, #815272 > - Has no arm64 optimizations > > The problem is that uploading latest openssl from unstable to > jessie-backports is not really feasible (ABI break and security > maintainance needed...). In fact the maintainer uploaded a new openssl to backports and I approved it an hour again or so. Alex
Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release
On Mon, Jul 04, 2016 at 02:01:03PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > There's something I've been pondering for a while, along with some > other folks - it might be useful to do a "jessie and a half" release, > similarly to what we did in the etch days. That's *basically* just > like a normal jessie release, but with a few key updates: > > * backports kernel > * rebuilt d-i to match that kernel > * X drivers > * ... (other things that might be needed for consistency) > > all rolled up with a small installer image build (netinst, maybe DVD#1). > > A lot of arm64 machine users would benefit from this One particular pain point is libssl. The version in jessie: - Is too old for providing HTTP/2 servers for chrome [1] - Lacks API features already used by apps like nodejs, #815272 - Has no arm64 optimizations The problem is that uploading latest openssl from unstable to jessie-backports is not really feasible (ABI break and security maintainance needed...). Riku [1] https://ma.ttias.be/day-google-chrome-disables-http2-nearly-everyone-may-31st-2016/ #815272 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=815272
Bug#830197: ITP: r-cran-gridbase -- GNU R Integration of base and grid graphics
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Tille * Package name: r-cran-gridbase Version : 0.4-7 Upstream Author : Paul Murrell * URL : https://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/gridBase * License : GPL Programming Lang: GNU R Description : GNU R Integration of base and grid graphics This GNU R package enables integration of base and grid graphics. Remark: This package is needed to upgrade r-cran-phangorn (which in turn seems to be needed for r-cran-treescape. It will be maintained by the Debian Med team at svn://anonscm.debian.org/debian-med/trunk/packages/R/r-cran-gridbase/trunk/
Re: howto avoid "apt-get update" going guru?
On Jul 06, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > I personally recommend using deb.debian.org. I do not, since it does not have local nodes in my country. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release
2016-07-06 21:18 GMT+03:00 Teemu Likonen : > Problem 2: CPU's built-in graphics work badly. I tried with kernel 4.5 > and with kernel option i915.preliminary_hw_support=1 (as someone > suggested). Couldn't start X window system. Fortunately I have better > graphics card so I don't care that much about the built-in one. Skylake > graphics probably need some yet unreleased kernel version. It's not just the kernel that affects graphics. libdrm, xserver-xorg-video-intel, xserver itself (to an extent required by the intel driver) and mesa all play an important role there. The Xorg.0.log might contain some explanations. Skylake support was deemed stable (not preliminary) in kernel 4.3, so the option would not have an affect. With recent software the intel driver is strictly not necessary anymore, as the generic modesetting driver with glamor acceleration also works well. -Timo
Re: Thinking about a "jessie and a half" release
On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 09:18:24PM +0300, Teemu Likonen wrote: > Problem 2: CPU's built-in graphics work badly. > [...] Skylake > graphics probably need some yet unreleased kernel version. Skylake != Skylake I have another Skylake system which works ok with 4.6 kernel and xorg-server-video-intel from jessie-backports. (Fullscreen video on 4k displays is still unusable, but normal 4k operation or fullscreen in other resolutions work fine.) (Installation was done with the jessie installer too.) > I wish it were a standard practice to create new netinst images with > backported kernels. Same here. -- cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#830182: ITP: apertium-urd-hin -- Apertium translation data for the Urdu-Hindi pair
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Kartik Mistry * Package name: apertium-urd-hin Version : 0.1.0 Upstream Author : Francis M. Tyers , Eknath Venkataramani Jim O'Regan San_ Kevin Brubeck Unhammer Sudarsh Rathi * URL : http://www.apertium.org/ * License : GPL-3 Programming Lang: Description : Apertium translation data for the Urdu-Hindi pair Data package providing Apertium language resources for translating between the Urdu and Hindi languages. - how do you plan to maintain it? inside a packaging team (check list at https://wiki.debian.org/Teams)? are you looking for co-maintainers? do you need a sponsor? A: With debian-science team + upstream support. -- Kartik Mistry | IRC: kart_ {0x1f1f, kartikm}.wordpress.com signature.asc Description: PGP signature