Re: Intention to package x11amp
Andreas == Andreas Jellinghaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andreas don't make it suid if it works without (mpg123, amp both Andreas work well as normal programs), register it with Andreas suidmanager without suid bit, and document in Andreas README.debian how to make it suid, what advantages this Andreas has, and the security risks. Right, that's what I'm doing. Andreas maybe also look for buffer overflows or similiar stuff in Andreas the source. No source available. :/ -- Brought to you by the letters L and I and the number 12. Frungy! Frungy! Frungy!! -- ZokFotPik, SCII Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intention to package x11amp
Martin == Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin There are one or two others who have already signed up for Martin this package: Sami Haahtinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Jens Martin Ritter [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Sami is still in the Martin new-maintainer procedure and has told us that he spoke to Martin the 'already registered maintainer'. I believe he refers Martin to Grimaldi, if not, Grimaldi speak up now. :-) I'll wait then. I was talking to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about this, and whipped up some packages for the new version. They're done, but I won't upload them until Jens or Sami gets back to me. Martin Sami gave us http://www.x11amp.ml.org/ as website for Martin x11amp. I haven't checked if it's the same as above. It's been moved to http://www.x11amp.bz.nu/ now. -- Brought to you by the letters V and Y and the number 8. O, Mentos Boy! -- Guppy Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why has ps changed it option syntax,or where oh where has my - gone
Shaleh == Shaleh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shaleh Why is ps -ax considered deprecated. Using a hyphen in Shaleh a command is accepted and standard practice. Last I Shaleh checked it is also POSIX as well as w/o. tar -zxvf and Shaleh tar zxvf are the same and should be ok. Why is ps Shaleh different? Read the man page for ps. It explains this in detail. -- Brought to you by the letters C and T and the number 1. It is sad. *Campers* cannot *dance*. Not even a *party*. -- Orz, SCII Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Updated install.html
Igor, this is great. But there are still some mistakes. The 'Installing on low-memory systems' section says: H3 Installing on low-memory systems /H3 P If your computer has less than 6MB of phycical memory (RAM), you will need to use ... to use what? :) This sounds like something right out of the will from _The Westing Game_.. -- Brought to you by the letters X and E and the number 10. Hello! We are only joke. It is funny enough. -- Orz, SCII Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install doc ready for testing ;-)
This looks great, igor! :) Here's a patch for lots of spell checks and 'linux' - 'Linux', 'debian' - 'Debian' fixes. --- install.html.oldSun Apr 19 13:03:40 1998 +++ install.htmlSun Apr 19 13:15:54 1998 @@ -23,7 +23,7 @@ because Debian is based on Ifree software/I. /P PFree software doesn't mean that it doesn't have a copyright, and it -doesn't mean that the CDnbsp;you buy containing this software is distributed +doesn't mean that the CD you buy containing this software is distributed at no charge, it simply means that the licenses of individual programs do not require you to pay for the privilege of copying the programs. There are other sorts of restrictions on how you copy the software, which you @@ -184,7 +184,7 @@ PYour motherboard probably provides Ishadow RAM/I. You may see settings for quot;Video BIOS Shadowquot;, quot;C800-CBFF Shadowquot;, etc. BDisable/B -all shadow RAM. Shadow RAM is used to accellerate access to the ROMs on +all shadow RAM. Shadow RAM is used to accelerate access to the ROMs on your motherboard and on some of the controller cards. Linux avoids using these ROMs once it has booted because it provides its own faster 32-bit software in place of the 16-bit programs in the ROMs. Disabling the shadow @@ -212,7 +212,7 @@ control of the turbo switch (or software control of CPU speed), do so and lock the system in high-speed mode. We have one report that on a particular system, while Linux is -auto-probing (looking for hardware devices) it can accidentaly touch the +auto-probing (looking for hardware devices) it can accidentally touch the software control for the turbo switch. h3Over-Clocking your CPU/h3 @@ -231,7 +231,7 @@ bad RAM (or other hardware problems that change data unpredictably) because it builds huge data structures that it traverses repeatedly. An error in these data structures will cause it to execute an illegal -instruction or access a non-existant address. The symptom of this will be +instruction or access a non-existent address. The symptom of this will be gcc dying from an unexpected signal. p The very best motherboards support parity RAM and will actually tell you if @@ -307,13 +307,13 @@ PA disturbing trend is the proliferation of IWindows/I modems and printers. In some cases these are specially designed to be operated by the Microsoft Windows operating system and bear the legend iWinModem/i -or IMade expecially +or IMade especially for Windows-based computers/I. This is generally done by removing the embedded processors of the hardware and shifting the work they do over to a Windows driver that is run by your computer's main CPU. This strategy makes the hardware less expensive, but the savings are often Inot/I passed on to the user and this hardware may even be more expensive than -equivalent devices that retain their embedded intellegence./P +equivalent devices that retain their embedded intelligence./P PYou should avoid Windows-specific hardware for two reasons. The first is that the manufacturers do not generally make the resources available @@ -356,16 +356,16 @@ H2Methods for Installing Debian/H2 P -You can install debian from the followin mediums: floppies, hard disk, or a +You can install Debian from the following mediums: floppies, hard disk, or a CD. You can also mix those 3 methods for different parts of installation as will be discussed below. P -The installaion disks are divided into 3 parts. The rescue disk, the -driver disk, and the base system. You will be prompted for each one of +The installation disks are divided into 3 parts: the Rescue Disk, the +Driver Disk, and the Base system. You will be prompted for each one of them separately. Therefore, you can place each one of them on a different medium if you wish. Below you will find a description of the most common -methods of installing debian. Keep in mind that if need be, you can +methods of installing Debian. Keep in mind that if need be, you can always put every distinct part of bootdisks on a separate medium. Note that the base system is available in 2 forms: floppy disk images for direct writing to a floppy, and in a tar archive for other forms of @@ -373,7 +373,7 @@ P Below is an annotated list of files you will find in disks-i386 directory. -You do not need to downoad them all, but only those you will need for your +You do not need to download them all, but only those you will need for your particular form of installation. See below for detailed installation instructions. All disk images are available in a form suitable for using in a 1.44MB and older 1.2MB floppy drives separately. The images for @@ -396,7 +396,7 @@ DT resc1440.bin, resc1200.bin: the rescue disk image -DD This is the rescue disk image. It is used for inital setup, and also +DD This is the rescue disk image. It is used for initial setup, and also in emergencies when you system doesn't boot for some reason in the future. Therefore
[Linus Torvalds torvalds@transmeta.com] New dad (again)..
Linus 3.0 has been released! Hooray! -- Brought to you by the letters H and R and the number 6. XTC versus Adam Ant -- which one will survive? -- They Might Be Giants Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. --- Start of forwarded message --- Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:37:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kernel Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New dad (again).. Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My second daughter (aka Linus v3.0) was born today at 9:04AM, and both mother and child are doing well. A national holiday has been announced, and I'll be even less responsible^H^H^Hve than usual - so please excuse any lost emails and patches. Weight: 3270g (7lb 3oz), height: 52cm (20.5) Linus - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- End of forwarded message --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
man page bad symlinks?
Lately, I've been getting a whole bunch of these warnings from man. These warnings have popped in and out over the past year or two of keeping up-to-date with Debian, and appear on EVERY hamm machine I have: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/src]% man openproc 3:59PM Updating index cache for path `/usr/man'. Wait...man: warning: /usr/man/man1/g++.1.gz is a dangling symlink man: can't open /usr/man/man1/c++.1: No such file or directory man: warning: /usr/man/man1/c++.1.gz: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request man: warning: /usr/man/man1/b2m.1.xemacs20.gz is a dangling symlink man: can't open /usr/man/man1/b2m.1: No such file or directory man: warning: /usr/man/man1/b2m.1.gz: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request man: warning: /usr/man/man1/emacsclient.1.xemacs20.gz is a dangling symlink man: can't open /usr/man/man1/emacsclient.1: No such file or directory man: warning: /usr/man/man1/emacsclient.1.gz: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request man: can't open /usr/man/man1/gnuserv.1: No such file or directory man: warning: /usr/man/man1/gnuclient.1.gz: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request man: can't open /usr/man/man1/gnuserv.1: No such file or directory man: warning: /usr/man/man1/gnuattach.1.gz: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request man: can't open /usr/man/man1/gnuserv.1: No such file or directory man: warning: /usr/man/man1/gnudoit.1.gz: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request man: warning: /usr/man/man1/rcs-checkin.1.xemacs20.gz is a dangling symlink man: can't open /usr/man/man1/rcs-checkin.1: No such file or directory man: warning: /usr/man/man1/rcs-checkin.1.gz: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request man: warning: /usr/man/man1/xemacs20.gz is a dangling symlink man: can't open /usr/man/man1/xemacs.1: No such file or directory man: warning: /usr/man/man1/xemacs.1.gz: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request man: warning: /usr/man/man1/math3.1.gz is a dangling symlink man: can't open /usr/man/man1/smath.1: No such file or directory man: warning: /usr/man/man1/smath.1.gz: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request Updating index cache for path `/usr/man'. Wait...done. No manual entry for openproc Stuff like this. For instance, /usr/man/man1/smath.1.gz points to /etc/alternatives/smath.1.gz, which points to /usr/man/man1/math3.1.gz, which does not exist. Should all these be reported as bugs? -- Brought to you by the letters Z and F and the number 9. He's kissing Christian.. and it's making you die. -- that dog. Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Blender
Behan == Behan Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Behan Darn. I downloaded blender today, but it needs a libc5 Behan version of mesa 2.6 and libjpeg. So it doesn't work on my Behan stock hamm system 8(. Behan I wrote to the people at Blender and asked about a libc6 Behan version, and what license they were going to release it Behan under (pointing them to the DFSG of course), I and I just Behan got a reply! I wrote the Blender folks too and got a very nice reply, pretty much the same as yours. They seem to know what's going on! Ben -- Brought to you by the letters C and Y and the number 19. I don't want the world.. I just want your half. -- They Might Be Giants Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [gtk-list] ANNOUNCE: GTK+ 1.0.0 Released!
Marcus == Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marcus Did the interface change (e.g. do we need to upload new Marcus versions of related packages) ? No, the API has not changed since 0.99.4. There are still some packages using the old API though, I believe. -- Brought to you by the letters V and N and the number 6. I'm with insurance. -- 12 Monkeys Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intent to package UAE
Fredrik == Fredrik Hallenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fredrik I'm going to package UAE, the Un*x Amiga Emulator. If no Fredrik one has any objections I will upload it in a few days. If you need any help, I have a debian/ directory already made for UAE; I just don't use it enough, so I didn't want to release it and become the maintainer. -- Brought to you by the letters T and G and the number 0. Disobeying me? No, I don't. -- Final Fantasy II Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?
Branden == Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Branden One presumes that will stop very soon now. Both GTK+ and Branden the GIMP are very, very close to a 1.0 release. For the Branden GTK+, one can assume that the library interface will be Branden stable for a while. GTK+ is unofficially at 1.0 now. I'm building a prerelease of 1.0 as we speak. Relying on GTK+ for lots of apps for Debian 2.1 would be fine by me, as the rapid development phase is over, and GTK+ 1.1 has already been forked, following the Linux kernel/Perl/GNUS developmental model. -- Brought to you by the letters Q and M and the number 5. If it wasn't for disappointment, I wouldn't have any appointment. -- TMBG Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Are we shipping 2.0 with ipmasq in the default kernel?
Just wondering -- are we going to be shipping Debian 2.0 with IP masquerading enabled by default in the kernel? I ask because we have that nice /etc/init.d/ script that's setting up IP masquerading policies.. -- Brought to you by the letters R and E and the number 2. My sister has three.. gender biases. -- Moxy Fruvous Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [gtk-list] ANNOUNCE: GTK+ 1.0.0 Released!
Debian packages for Debian 2.0/i386 have been uploaded to the master Debian FTP archive and ftp.gimp.org. GTK+ 1.0.0 will officially be a part of Debian 2.0, due to be released in a few weeks. Congrats, folks! -- Brought to you by the letters V and U and the number 18. You forgot Uranus. Goodnight everybody! -- Yakko and Wakko Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are we shipping 2.0 with ipmasq in the default kernel?
Hamish == Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hamish On Mon, Apr 13, 1998 at 09:04:28PM -0800, Ben Gertzfield Hamish wrote: Just wondering -- are we going to be shipping Debian 2.0 with IP masquerading enabled by default in the kernel? I ask because we have that nice /etc/init.d/ script that's setting up IP masquerading policies.. Hamish Do we? Which script is that? Netbase has some ipfwadm Hamish entries but none of those seem to be for masquerading on Hamish my system. Wow, I'm a dope, I didn't even read through the script. Well, *can* we do this? :) Red Hat has IP masquerading in their kernel by default, and I know that a MAJOR reason lots of people use Linux in their homes is as a dial-in/masquerading server. I think we can safely make this a goal for 2.1 if we haven't already. -- Brought to you by the letters R and K and the number 7. Oh, all right, Uncle Ulty REALLY wants you to do his portrait. -- FF6 Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is my hard drive FUBAR, or is it dpkg?
I've started getting messages like the following from upgrading packages: Do you want to install the files fetched [y]: Installing files... (Reading database ... 28597 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace xbase 3.3.2-2 (using .../x11/xbase_3.3.2-3.deb) ... xdm and xfs not running, continuing with xbase installation. Unpacking replacement xbase ... dpkg: error processing debian/dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/x11/xbase_3.3.2-3.deb (--install): error flushing `usr/X11R6/lib/X11/x11perfcomp/fillblnk': No space left on device dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) but the /usr partition has over 400M free: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/x11perfcomp]# df . 7:09PM Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on /dev/hda21486371 931336 478226 66% /usr and the file doesn't appear to be corrupted: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/x11perfcomp]# ls -la . 7:09PM total 5 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 Apr 7 19:08 . drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 1024 Apr 7 19:08 .. -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 424 Mar 25 20:58 fillblnk -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 784 Mar 25 20:58 perfboth -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 723 Mar 25 20:58 perfratio so what's going on? This is on a 2.0.33 machine. Should I downgrade the kernel? Is the hard drive dying? I noticed in /var/log/kernel.log that there are lots of messages like the following: Free blocks count corrupted for block group 17 Apr 7 18:57:49 everybody kernel: EXT2-fs error (device 03:02): ext2_new_block: Free blocks count corrupted for block group 17 Apr 7 18:58:22 everybody kernel: EXT2-fs error (device 03:02): ext2_new_block: Free blocks count corrupted for block group 17 Apr 7 19:06:10 everybody kernel: EXT2-fs error (device 03:02): ext2_new_block: Free blocks count corrupted for block group 17 Apr 7 19:06:34 everybody last message repeated 4 times Apr 7 19:08:27 everybody kernel: EXT2-fs error (device 03:02): ext2_new_block: Free blocks count corrupted for block group 17 which seems to suggest SOMETHING horrible is wrong. What do I do? Ben -- Brought to you by the letters I and T and the number 18. Porco ga daisuki! -- Fio, Porco Rosso Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OS 2.1 uprade for Linux?
Hey, folks. I just picked up my PalmPilot Pro today (and boy do I love it! :) pilot-link works great, and is a wonderful set of tools. I've run into a problem, though; the OS 2.1 upgrade comes as a set of Windows programs, none of which are unzippeable, so I can't get the .prc out to upgrade my Pilot to OS 2.1. Has anyone extracted the OS upgrade out of all the Word and Excel crap in the 2.1 package for use with Linux folks? Ben -- Brought to you by the letters D and P and the number 10. If it wasn't for disappointment, I wouldn't have any appointment. -- TMBG Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Summary of Package Overlaps -- preliminary
Richard == Richard Braakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard Overlap between msqlperl_1:0.91-2 and Richard libdbd-mysql-perl_1.1821-1: usr/lib/perl5/Msql.pm Richard usr/lib/perl5/Msql/Statement.pm usr/man/man3/Msql.3pm.gz Richard Reported as bug#16784 to to msqlperl msqlperl and Richard libdbd-mysql-perl seem to be the same or similar Richard packages. (almost resolved) Richard Overlap between libdbd-msql-perl_0.91-2 and Richard libdbd-mysql-perl_1.1821-1: usr/lib/perl5/DBD/mSQL.pm Richard usr/man/man3/DBD::mSQL.3pm.gz libdbd-msql-perl is built Richard from the msqlperl sources (see above). (almost resolved) libdbd-mysql-perl_1.1821-2 has been uploaded, and fixes these problems. -- Brought to you by the letters S and W and the number 1. It makes my nipples hard! -- The Creator of the Be Box Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is xforms0.86 save to install?
Alan == Alan Eugene Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alan Is it safe to install xforms0.86, not including the dev Alan package? I've recently uploaded re-done and working versions of both libforms0.86 and libforms0.88. They're sitting in Incoming now, and work fine. :) -- Brought to you by the letters W and T and the number 7. Do you wish to see our *surprising toys*? No! Do not! -- Orz, SCII Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: boot-floppies progress
Bruce == Bruce Perens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bruce I just finished patching newt so that whiptail works as Bruce a complete replacement for dialog, using s-lang instead Bruce of ncurses. I had to hack modconf slightly (because it Bruce used leading - in menus, and that won't parse), but it Bruce now works with whiptail. We now have all of the Bruce boot-floppy components working with s-lang, but we have not Bruce yet assembled the floppy. I'm extremely interested in this; does whiptail use a more decent way of returning the data selected by the user than dialog did? I did some work on re-writing the network config tool, but got lost in a twisty maze of return values and stderr output. -- Brought to you by the letters B and A and the number 8. XTC versus Adam Ant -- which one will survive? -- They Might Be Giants Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xforms0.86 package insanity
Scott == Scott Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Scott Talk about quick service... I found the packages in Scott Incoming this morning :) *grin* Well, it wasn't terribly difficult -- but I'm extremely glad for debhelper :) -- Brought to you by the letters X and D and the number 10. Nerd. Loser. Jerk. Moron. Worm. Scum. Idiot. Fool. -- Pkunk, SCII Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xforms0.86 package insanity
Ben == Ben Gertzfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ben Should I distribute the binary-only .tar.gz as the Ben .orig.tar.gz, and make the diff as usual? *grin* Also, shouldn't the package be named 'libforms0.88'? I can also release a 'libforms0.86' that replaces, provides, and conflicts with xforms0.86. -- Brought to you by the letters V and W and the number 19. Hello! We are only joke. It is funny enough. -- Orz, SCII Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: debhelper design change - RFC (long)
Joey == Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *excellent explanation of what can happen snipped* Joey I far prefer #3, I feel it's the cleanest way to go (it will Joey simplify the man pages a lot), but its backwards Joey compatability problems worry me. If people think #3 is too Joey radical, I can easily fall back to #2, but it's not as Joey clean. #1 doesn't appeal. Comments? I agree, and would prefer #3 -- but is there anything but dh_installdirs that needs to be changed if we do it that way? -- Brought to you by the letters B and Q and the number 0. Mmm.. Soylent Green.. -- Homer Simpson Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: debhelper design change - RFC (long)
Joey == Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Joey Ben Gertzfield wrote: Ben I agree, and would prefer #3 -- but is there anything but Ben dh_installdirs that needs to be changed if we do it that way? Joey Yes. This change would effect at least: Joey dh_installdirs, dh_installdocs, dh_installchangelogs, Joey dh_installexamples, dh_undocumented, dh_installmanpages, and Joey dh_suidregister. Okay. Is there any way we can possibly detect and issue a warning if someone tries the old behavior (when would this happen) if we go with #3, also? -- Brought to you by the letters Q and U and the number 14. It is sad. *Campers* cannot *dance*. Not even a *party*. -- Orz, SCII Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
xforms0.86 package insanity
From the bug reprts on the xforms0.86 package, I've been able to ascertain the following: xforms0.86 currently depends on elf-x11r6, a virtual package that is now obsolete. xforms0.86 is libc5, and available in binary form only. xforms0.88 is available, and is distributed compiled for libc6. The maintainer for xforms0.86 seems to have disappeared. What's going on with xforms0.86? There are new packages (xmysqladmin) that are appearing that depend on it! But xforms0.86 cannot be installed without a --force. I think this more than warrants a non-maintainer upload.. -- Brought to you by the letters A and G and the number 19. Mmm.. Soylent Green.. -- Homer Simpson Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xforms0.86 package insanity
Scott == Scott Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Scott As soon as someone packages xforms0.88, I'll rebuild both Scott xmysql and xmysqladmin with it... Well, I guess I'll do so, since nobody else is stepping forward to do it. Should I distribute the binary-only .tar.gz as the .orig.tar.gz, and make the diff as usual? -- Brought to you by the letters W and X and the number 16. Make a little birdhouse in your soul. -- They Might Be Giants Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: GIF patent issue
bruce == bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: bruce Please be aware that the GIF patent issue is for WRITERS bruce only. Readers do not use the patented algorithm. Often you bruce can put the writer in non-free and leave the rest of the bruce program in main. So is it okay to distribute the source that will generate this non-free GIF writer in main, as is the case with the gimp package? -- Brought to you by the letters K and T and the number 17. Son, I am able, she said, though you scare me. -- They Might Be Giants Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Getting shlibs.local to work with dpkg-shlibdeps
I'm trying to split up the GIMP package, so that other packages that use libgimp et al don't have to depend on the humungous gimp package. Since the gimp source tree makes three shared libraries -- libgimp, libgimpui, and libgck, I made a debian/shlibs.local file containing the lines: libgimp 1 libgimp1 libgimpui 1 libgimp1 libgck 0 libgimp1 yet dpkg-shlibdeps on binaries linked with these libraries doesn't make debian/substvars contain libgimp1. What am I doing wrong? -- Brought to you by the letters U and Y and the number 15. Egad! A base tone denotes a bad age. -- TMBG Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: new GTK+ release
bruce == bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: bruce There is a new GTK+ release 0.99.0 . This is coordinated bruce with the upcoming GIMP 0.99.16 release. I'm packaging this up as we speak, with epoch 1:, to make it libgtk1 version 1:0.99.0. Hopefully the GTK+ folks will keep with this new version numbering from now on. And hopefully this version of GTK+ will work with entry fields :) -- Brought to you by the letters T and C and the number 13. You should be glad you don't have diaper rash. Mah Jongg. -- The Critic Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Semi-important: tearing my hair out over libgtk problems
I just can't understand this. I'm the maintainer of libgtk, the GIMP toolkit, which is the widget set for The GIMP and Gnome and other nice X programs. Ever since gtk+971109, however, I've been running into a problem that nobody who isn't running Debian has been running into. libgtk *compiles* fine, but when I run a program that uses it, the fields where you enter text into only display bizarre characters -- which change from version to version. For instance, when trying to get gtk+971201 to work, I only got blank characters when typing. When trying gtk+971208, I only got capital Os with umlauts. When trying the latest gtk+, 0.99.0, I only get capital As with umlauts. I tried the latest version from their CVS repositories and only get lower-case 'x's. Other Debian folks have run into this when compiling libgtk, and this has happened to me now on *three* separate Debian-running computers, so I don't think it's a hardware problem. I'm 100 percent up-to-date with hamm. I've tried libc 2.0.5c. I've tried 2.0.6pre3. I've tried 2.0.6pre4. I've tried re-working my debian/rules (which worked fine with gtk+971109) to use the make install provided in the gtk+ Makefile along with debhelper instead of my semi-kluged bash-package-style moving files into separate debian/tmp-blah directories. Is it just me? Can anyone else try compiling with the .dsc/.diff.gz/.orig.tar.gz at http://everybody.got.net/~che/gtk/ for me, and see if I'm just nuts? I've been struggling with this for *weeks* now. Here's some related version numbers of packages, if it matters: ii gcc 2.7.2.3-3 The GNU C compiler. ii ldso1.9.6-2The Linux dynamic linker, library and utilit ii libc6 2.0.5c-0.1 The GNU C library version 2 (run-time files) ii libc6-dev 2.0.5c-0.1 The GNU C library version 2 (development fil ii xlib6g 3.3.1-2Shared libraries required by X clients ii xlib6g-dev 3.3.1-2Include files and libraries for X client dev -- Brought to you by the letters X and R and the number 6. Someday, we will be. For it has already begun. -- Akira Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Semi-important: tearing my hair out over libgtk problems
A quick followup: Someone on the GIMP IRC network recently reported the *exact* same problem with certain gtk versions. But they're running SuSE 4.4.1, very tweaked. Now I don't think the problem is Debian-specific. (I had hoped it wasn't :) -- Brought to you by the letters F and Q and the number 3. Egad! A base tone denotes a bad age. -- TMBG Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: syslogd taking up lots of CPU..
Ben == Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ben EAGAIN doesn't mean out of disk space. The gnu libc manual Ben says this: Ben * A temporary resource shortage made an operation Ben impossible. `fork' can return this error. You know, I'll bet it was the glibc2.0.5c problem. I've upgraded to 2.0.6 and will see if it goes away. -- Brought to you by the letters X and E and the number 12. My sister has three.. gender biases. -- Moxy Fruvous Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
syslogd taking up lots of CPU..
Hm. For some reason, today, syslogd started taking up more than its
share of CPU. (About 20% on a P200.)
I did an strace on the process, and saw lots of stuff like this:
read(21, 22Dec 11 16:03:34 cucipop[3129..., 1024) = 72
time([881885014]) = 881885014
writev(4, [{Dec 11 16:03:34, 15}, { , 1}, {always, 6}, { , 1},
{cucipop[3129]: movinon 207.167.9..., 51}, {\n, 1}], 6) = 75
writev(8, [{Dec 11 16:03:34, 15}, { , 1}, {always, 6}, { , 1},
{cucipop[3129]: movinon 207.167.9..., 51}, {\n, 1}], 6) = 75
fsync(8)= 0
writev(11, [{Dec 11 16:03:34, 15}, { , 1}, {always, 6}, { , 1},
{cucipop[3129]: movinon 207.167.9..., 51}, {\n, 1}], 6) = 75
writev(19, [{Dec 11 16:03:34, 15}, { , 1}, {always, 6}, { , 1},
{cucipop[3129]: movinon 207.167.9..., 51}, {\n, 1}], 6) = -1 EAGAIN
(Resource temporarily unavailable)
select(1024, [0 2 21], NULL, NULL, NULL) = 1 (in [21])
read(21, , 1024) = 0
close(21) = 0
select(1024, [0 2], NULL, NULL, NULL unfinished ...
That EAGAIN disturbs me. We're not even close to being out of disk
space; what could be causing this?
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Re: windows nt and linux
Mandark! == Mandark! [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mandark! and I want to install linux over ms-dos. BUT on the dos Mandark! partition there is a windows nt file which is VITAL and Mandark! contains the nt boot record (ms-dos mbr occupies the mbr Mandark! space) and if linux toasts it, my computer will cease to Mandark! work. is there a way to preserve this file when linux Mandark! reformats the partition? thanx... -Matthew I think if you tell the Debian installation process not to install LILO, you'll be okay. I've been told that LILO 20 (the most recent version in the unstable distribution of Debian) fixes this problem. -- Brought to you by the letters W and N and the number 7. Bill Gates is a talented evil man. -- Chip Salzenberg Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: .deb
Gigabyte == Gigabyte [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gigabyte i was asked if i could used files like Tkdesk from the Gigabyte Debian/Linux 1.3.1 and use it on other Linux like Gigabyte OpenLinux ? if so how can i do that ... TIA . Sure. Just install the 'alien' program, available at http://kite.ml.org/programs/ :) -- Brought to you by the letters K and P and the number 6. Egad! A base tone denotes a bad age. -- TMBG Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Correct path for upgrading to libc6-dev?
Mark Eichin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You should certainly remove libdb-dev, since libc6-dev replaces it (as libc6 includes libdb.) I haven't done a libdb-altdev, and unless someone asks probably won't bother (the libgdbm* packages are already uploaded though.) Oh, okay. Do you know anything about the others? -- Brought to you by the letters K and I and the number 0. More testicles means more iron. -- Lunchlady Doris, The Simpsons Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Correct path for upgrading to libc6-dev?
*wavewave* I'm finally ready to move my Debian box up to libc6-dev, but it seems there are all sorts of dependancies that aren't solved by moving to the newest version of everything (ncurses-dev, slang-dev, libg++-dev, and libdb-dev still depend on libc5-dev..) I took a peek at libc5-altdev, but it depends on an older version of libc5 than I have (5.4.23-4, while I have 5.4.23-6..) Should I downgrade my libc5? Should I just remove ncurses-dev, slang-dev, libg++-dev, and libdb-dev? Help! :) -- Brought to you by the letters A and P and the number 11. Porco ga daisuki! -- Fio, Porco Rosso Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Mea Culpa -- didn't announce intentions.
Eep. I just got a little excited there, and released my two Debian packages already, without reading all of the policies first. igor has told me that I'm supposed to announce my intentions before packageing. Whoops. Erm, well, does anybody mind if I package sirc and ching? sirc is a Perl-based IRC client, and ching is a fortune-like forgram that generates I Ching hexagrams. Again, forgive me -- I don't want to face the wrath of Manoj :) Sort of an ex-posto-facto announcement of intentions. Yeah, that's the ticket. -- Brought to you by the letters Y and F and the number 16. A Squeegee by any other name wouldn't sound as funny. -- fortune Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
