Re: Potato-Woody kernel upgrade problems

2002-04-18 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 11:52:53PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote:
 On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 15:32, Michael Piefel wrote:
  The Crash
Well, simply, it was the wrong kernel. The guide recommends to install
  a new kernel with: apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-{386,586tsc,686}
  However, the system has a AMD K6. Of course it's his fault for choosing
 
 386, 486, and 586 kernels work fine on a K6.  When in doubt use a 386 kernel, 
 it'll run on any x86 system that runs Linux.

2.4.18 has a k6 kernel-image, as well (also k7).


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Re: possible problem with ftp archive

2000-12-26 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 09:41:02PM +, John O Sullivan wrote:
 Hi all,
 I've noticed something that seems odd to me.
 On ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/source
 theres a bunch of files (.dsc .diff .orig etc) appearing in this
 directory.
 Is this the correct behaviour? Is this related to the switch to
 package pools?
 I'm curious because the same thing isn't happening for the various
 binary-* directories and I've seen no explanation for it anywhere.

This is what you should expect to find in a Debian source directory. 
These files are used to build packages.  See 'man dpkg-source'.




Re: RBL report..

2000-03-30 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 10:34:05AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:

 b) use uucp-over-tcp (requires uucp account somewhere)
 c) use smtp-over-ssh (requires shell account somewhere)

Can someone point me to any references on setting up either of these. 
I had to give up my static IP and often have problems with my ISP's
smtp server.  I notice that the alternate access method I have for
reaching my ISP (via uunet) filters so you cannot reach port 25 on any
servers other than their own (and I do understand their reason for
doing so).  One of these methods would get around that (unless they
also filter on ports 465 and 540).

Bob
 



Re: realplayer installer and frozen

2000-03-16 Thread Bob Nielsen
I checked and REALPLAYER_HOME was set to the G2 directory (from an old
manual installation). I changed it to /usr/lib/RealPlayer7 and
realplayer started working.  Then I deleted REALPLAYER_HOME
environmental variable altogether and it still worked.  This would
indicate that it isn't required, but if it exists, it must point to the
correct location.

Thanks.

On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 04:38:46AM -0600, David Webb wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 01:36:49AM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
  David Webb wrote:
  I had the same problem. Installing libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 fixed it on my
  system.
  
  I cannot reproduce this. Works fine for me without that library installed.
  
  You also have to make sure the REALPLAYER_HOME environment
  variable is set correctly.
  
  Nor can I reproduce this.
 
 I've played around with my system some more. Here's what I tried:
 
 1. Removed libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 - realplayer kept working
 2. Changed REALPLAYER_HOME - realplayer stopped working
 3. Corrected REALPLAYER_HOME - realplayer started working again
 4. Unset REALPLAYER_HOME - realplayer kept working
 
 In short, REALPLAYER_HOME was the sole cause on my system and unsetting
 it completely seems to be the best fix.

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Re: realplayer installer and frozen

2000-03-15 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 01:00:59AM -0500, Alex Yukhimets wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 07:09:31PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
  Lars Wirzenius wrote:
   I agree with Branden: remove the installer from potato.
  
  The problem that I forgot to mention is that anyone who upgrades from slink
  to potato w/o upgrading realplayer, and had realplayer installed via the
  installer in slink, is going to find that the old realplayer they have
  installed realplayer no longer works. Library incompatabilities of some
  kind cause it to crash.
 
 I would definitely put new realplayer installer package in potato.
 At least this would be a big favor to our users.

I tried the woody installer on a potato system.  It installed
realplayer, but it doesn't seem to work.  No messages or core
dump--nothing happens. I also tried installing the tarball and
installing the .deb created by running alien on the .rpm, with the same
results, so it would appear that the installer is not the problem.

On the other hand, the old realplayer worked just fine for me in
potato.  Unfortunately there does not appear to be any way to get it
back.

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Re: DO NOT UPGRADE TO POTATO. MENU UPLOAD ON OCT 2 KILLS SYSTEMS

1999-10-06 Thread Bob Nielsen
So that's what did that!  It was not anywhere near as disastrous as
some of the things which update-xaw-wrappers has done to my system.  In
any case, I grabbed the new menu from incoming.

On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 08:13:41PM -0400, Terry Katz wrote:
 2.1.3-2 is one that does it ...
 
 It doesn't totally kill the system .. It seems to start up the various wm's,
 and they run at about 95% cpu and 88%+ memory for about 2-5 mins (each), but
 they do die (or finish?) and everything is fine (my worst case, I saw
 gnome-panel running at 95% for about 3 mins, then wmaker running at that for
 3 mins.. (in console mode))... Its an annoyance, but it doesn't kill the
 system .. (at least on 3 of mine it didn't)
 
 Terry
 
 
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  Adam I just did an upgrade.  The menu pkg ate memory like no
  Adam tomorrow.
  [...]
  Adam Cease and desist at all costs.
 
  Adam I have just been informed on irc that a fixed menu is in
  Adam incoming.  So, it should all be fixed tomorrow.
  [...]
 
  Adam, thanks.  What are the menu package versions (broken and fixed)?
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Re: SSH never free

1999-10-03 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 11:57:07PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 08:54:48AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
  PS: the RSA patent expires in 2001 (or is it 2002?), anyway.
 
 20 September 2000.

Does anyone know when the LZW patent expires?


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Re: slink - potato

1999-10-01 Thread Bob Nielsen
I did an upgrade of one of my systems yesterday with little incident
(apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade).  I had to rerun the upgrade
part several times because the order of installation was a bit messed
up (bind).  

Bob

On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 02:24:45PM +0200, andreas pÄlsson wrote:
 Hello.
 
 I'm about to make an update of a base Slink-system to the unstable
 Potato.
 
 Is there anything I should think of or preperations to be made before
 updating?
 
 Why I do this is because I want to become a Debian-developer, and any
 hints and tips are much appreciated.
 
 Sincerely...
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Re: Disk Performance

1999-09-24 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 11:18:52AM +0100, Gordon Russell wrote:
 
 I am currently playing around with vmware, running win98. However, the
 performance stinks (I am using a beta release though). The strange thing
 is though that if I do a
 find / -print  /dev/null
 in another window, the performance IMPROVES...

My non-scientific observation:

Running win98 in the beta appears little different than running it in
the released version.  win95 is much improved in the beta, however.  I'm
running build 305 on a K6-2/350 with 64 MB (32 allocated for vmware).
I'm sure more memory would help here.  It was unusable on a P-150. 

Bob

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Re: netscape crashes on potato

1999-05-26 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 12:34:34AM +0200, Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
 On Sun, 23 May 1999, Bob Nielsen wrote:
 
  On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 11:13:56PM -0400, Greg Stark wrote:
   
   So the people who don't see crashes, which version of Netscape are you 
   using?
   Do you use java successfully in Netscape? Do you have plugger installed? 
   Do
   you have any other plugins installed? Which versions of libc are you 
   using?
  
  I haven't had any problem with navigator versions 4.07 and 4.6, as well
  as communicator 4.08. I did have a problem with 4.51 crashing, however. 
  I have used java and plugger.  I think I had libc6 (2.0.x) with 4.07 and
  have use both 2.0 and 2.1 with 4.08 and 4.6. 
 
 I have been having the Netscape crashes with bus error when a window is
 closed problem for some time now. My system is up-to-date with potato. 
 Last week, I decided to test this problem with every 'navigator-smotif-*'
 package. Every navigator-smotif-* package in slink and potato (that's
 versions 4.06, 4.07, 4.08, 4.5 and 4.6) was affected.
 
 BTW, this crash happens both when I hit the 'close window' button and when
 I hit the 'Close' option in the 'File' menu. But it doesn't happen every
 time I do this. My impression is that it even has begun to happen less
 often, recently.

I knew that by posting my reply earlier I could force netscape to crash.
It did a little while ago with a signal 11 error.  IIRC, this is usually
a hardware error.  I wonder if it is related to the bus error problem?

potato, kernel 2.2.9, navigator 4.6 (smotif).

Bob

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Re: netscape crashes on potato

1999-05-23 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 11:13:56PM -0400, Greg Stark wrote:
 
 So the people who don't see crashes, which version of Netscape are you using?
 Do you use java successfully in Netscape? Do you have plugger installed? Do
 you have any other plugins installed? Which versions of libc are you using?


I haven't had any problem with navigator versions 4.07 and 4.6, as well
as communicator 4.08. I did have a problem with 4.51 crashing, however. 
I have used java and plugger.  I think I had libc6 (2.0.x) with 4.07 and
have use both 2.0 and 2.1 with 4.08 and 4.6. 

Bob

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Re: Bug#34579: Removing ncsa from the dist?

1999-05-16 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 08:57:14PM -0700, Adam Klein wrote:
  reply to bug in which ncsa exits with an error on startup
 
 (sorry it's been so long. this bug got lost in the shuffle somewhere)
 Apparently, this problem can be fixed by specifying a group
 to run as in /etc/ncsa/httpd.conf.  However, ncsa doesn't
 seem to actually _run_ as that user/group.  Really, I'd like
 to remove ncsa from the distribution.  It's old, outdated,
 probably insecure, and boa is just as small, fast, and has
 a very similar configuration style.

That sounds fine to me.  After having the problem with ncsa I switched
to boa myself.

Bob

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Re: GNOME in potato needs slink libs

1999-01-27 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Ossama Othman wrote:

 Hi,
 
  Huh? the new GNOME has been uploaded at about 2-3 days ago, it doesnt depend
  on slink libs. Try a mirror that is not so out of date.
 
 I use http.us.debian.org.  Isn't that mirror up to date?

That's actually six mirrors:

Name:http.us.debian.org
Addresses:  209.197.224.62, 207.69.194.216, 141.213.4.21, 208.146.80.105
  209.81.8.242, 206.187.92.15
 
Possibly one or more is/was not up to date.  Some of the potato libs for
gnome were delayed, IIRC.  I had a lot of deferred updates of gnome
packages due to unavailable dependencies which didn't get installed until
yesterday. 

Bob


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Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 08:36:53PM +0100, Remco van de Meent wrote:

 I just tried to match the Changes file from Linux-2.2.0 with the slink 
 distribution, and was happy to find out that almost every requirement 
 mentioned in that file is fullfilled by the packages (versions) in slink. 
 However, one dependancy isn't resolved: util-linux. Linux-2.2.0 wants 
 util-linux 2.9g, but the one in slink is 2.7.1. Potato does have 2.9g.  The 
 main difference between them is the mkswap utility (support for swapfiles 
 128M). 

Changes says that net-tools 1.49 is required.  It says to use 'hostname
-V' to determine the version, but this does not work.  'route -V' in both
slink and potato indicate that the net-tools version is 1.45.  

Is an upgrade needed here?  I haven't noticed any problems with this, but
I'm not familiar with the specific differences between 1.45 and 1.49.
 
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 14:13:04 -0700 (MST)
From: Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: new kernel release

I see that Documentation/CHANGES says that net-tools 1.49 is required.  It
says to use 'hostname -V' to determine the version, but this does not
work.  'route -V' in both slink and potato that the net-tools version is
1.45.  Is an upgrade needed here?

Bob


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Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-22 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Brent Fulgham wrote:

  2.2. diald/ppp in slink does not work with 2.2.0-pre7 (on my box, at
  least).  I am sure that there are other things as well.
 
 I'm sure you were aware that you have to upgrade your pppd to work with any
 of the higher-order 2.1.X kernels?  You might want to check the kernel
 source's Documents/CHANGES file.

I also was unable to get ppp or diald to work with a later 2.1.x kernel in
a hamm system.

Documentation/Changes says the required version of ppp is 2.3.5 and hamm,
slink and potato all have this version.

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Missing packages files

1999-01-21 Thread Bob Nielsen
It seems that all the hamm and slink packages files, as well as those for
contrib and non-free (but not main) in potato are currently missing on
three mirrors I have checked today. 

Agggh!

Bob



Re: Missing packages files

1999-01-21 Thread Bob Nielsen
Well, I have ldd also, but don't see the connection.

???

Bob

On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Paul McDermott wrote:

 here is what i get when doing a dpkg -S ldd
 [paul:~]$ dpkg -S ldd
 ldso: /usr/man/man1/ldd.1.gz
 ldso: /usr/bin/ldd
 tetex-base: /usr/lib/texmf/fonts/source/public/cm/olddig.mf
 ldso: /usr/lib/lddstub
 php3-doc: /usr/doc/php3-doc/html/function.hw-getchilddoccollobj.html
 debhelper: /usr/man/man1/dh_builddeb.1.gz
 php3-doc: /usr/doc/php3-doc/html/function.hw-getchilddoccoll.html
 debhelper: /usr/bin/dh_builddeb
 [paul:~]$
 hope this helps.
 Paul
 
 On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Bob Nielsen wrote:
 
 It seems that all the hamm and slink packages files, as well as those for
 contrib and non-free (but not main) in potato are currently missing on
 three mirrors I have checked today. 
 
 Agggh!
 
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Re: Missing packages files

1999-01-21 Thread Bob Nielsen
It must have been a temporary glitch, the files are now available.

Bob

On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Bob Nielsen wrote:

 It seems that all the hamm and slink packages files, as well as those for
 contrib and non-free (but not main) in potato are currently missing on
 three mirrors I have checked today. 
 
 Agggh!
 
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Re: Which PGP?

1998-10-18 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, David Frey wrote:

 On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 08:23:38PM +0100, James Troup wrote:
 Dave Swegen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Out of curiosity, which version of PGP is the debian de facto standard.
  I'm currently using v5, but I've seen a number of people use 2.6...
 2.x; we don't accept later stuff.
 
 Really? 
 I recently retrieved a lot of PGP5-Debian-Devel keys (signed Mailing-List
 e-Mails, mainly new Developpers), so I got the impression that PGP5 wasn't
 officially discouraged.
 
 This is obviously a problem, since I'm currently using pgp2.62ui which can't
 verify pgp 5 keys.

What is the status of gnupg?  Is there a Debian package available?  It is
shown as 'recommended' by debian-keyring, but doesn't seem to exist.

Bob


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Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-05 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Mon, 5 Oct 1998, Joseph Carter wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 05, 1998 at 09:57:24AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I had to deal with this idiocy back in the eighties when I was building
  computers which may have qualified as 'munitions'.
 
 And remember that books are the purest form of evil and should always be
 burned if they have not been published by the gornenment.

Especially those containing crypto source code, as they can be legally
exported (OCR fonts, anyone?)  I don't know if anyone has tried a test
case of a book which contains a uuencoded binary.

Welcome to the land of the free and the home of the brave.

 
 The current edition of the dictionary is much smaller than the last edition,
 and the edition they're working on will be smaller yet.
 
 You already know what happens in room 101.
 
 We have always been at war with Oceanna.
 
 Newscasters never lie and television is the purest form of entertainment.
 
 Place all of your trust in those in power.  Certainly they could not have
 gotten there without being honest, hard working, good people could they?  No
 of course not, don't be silly, the public would reject a corrupt leader.
 
 And remember to be home by 6:30pm, only criminals are out later than that
 and the hard curfew is 7pm after all.  Anyone found outside after curfew is
 obviously a criminal and quite probably a traitor.
 
 They want to know where have you been?  No, it's all right, they know where
 you've been.
 
 
 (Does it sound like I think these export policies are idiotic at the least
 and the sign of darker motives clad in the name of Safety and Security at
 worst?  I thought so.)
 



Re: what's after slink

1998-10-03 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Joseph Carter wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 02, 1998 at 05:20:29PM -0700, Ben Gertzfield wrote:
  Kenneth After you freeze slink, what will be then name of the new
  Kenneth 'unstable' release (debian 2.2 or 3.0 that is).
  
  I think 'woody' would be an appropriate nickname. :)
 
 I thought 2.2 was going to be rc, and 3.0 would be woody.  Johnnie
 Ingram was pushing for that one, as were a few others.

But didn't an even earlier discussion conclude that woody should be
bypassed as it would be offensive to some people.

Bob



Re: what's after slink

1998-10-03 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, 3 Oct 1998, Martin Schulze wrote:

 This leaves the following possible names:
 
 Ben Gertzfield wrote:
  Here's what imdb.com says:
  
 Cast overview, first billed only:
 Don Rickles  Mr. Potato Head
 John Morris (III)  Andy
 Laurie Metcalf  Mrs. Davis
 R. Lee Ermey  Sergeant
 Sarah Freeman  Hannah
  
  so we really don't have that many more choices..
 
 2.2 potatoe
 2.3 andy
 2.4 davis
 3.0 sergeant
 3.1 hannah
 
 The namespase lasts for five more releases.  Or do I misunderstand
 something?

That's from the credits, but there are some more :
r.c. (mentioned previously)
molly
snake
robot
etch
mike
mr. spell
lenny
claw

There were a few others, but I couldn't pick out the names from the
soundtrack.

Bob



Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-24 Thread Bob Nielsen
Well, libc6 (etc.) 2.07r-1 has now moved to some of the mirrors, but
apt-get (apt 0.0.16-1) refuses to get the packages.

Dselect DOES show show these as updated packages, however, but using
the apt method still refuses to get them:

--- Updated Required packages in section base ---
 *** Req base libc62.0.7pre1-4 2.0.7r-1The GNU C library  
version 
 *** Req base timezones2.0.7pre1-4 2.0.7r-1Time zone data files and
- Updated Standard packages -
--- Updated Standard packages in section admin ---
 *** Std adminlocales  2.0.7pre1-4 2.0.7r-1Locale data files and uti
--- Updated Standard packages in section devel ---
 *** Std devellibc6-dev2.0.7pre1-4 2.0.7r-1The GNU C library version
 *** Req base libc62.0.7pre1-4 2.0.7r-1The GNU C library version

Using the ftp method in dselect works, however.

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Re: FIX FOR HAMM: timezone problem

1998-06-20 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, 20 Jun 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote:

 This is very strange, as US/Central and CST6CDT are both links to
 Americal/Chicago in the 2.0.7 version that I am building for release
 today.
 
 The 2.0.7pre3 (which I have currently installed) seems to have these
 as separate files.

Likewise 2.0.7pre4, however diff shows they are identical.  I'm not sure
how well diff works with binaries however.  The files have identical
sizes.

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Re: FIX FOR HAMM: timezone problem

1998-06-20 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, 20 Jun 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote:
  
 Where did you get a pre4? I don't think I released one...

Oops, I meant pre1-4.  Sorry about that.

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Re: kernel 2.0.34

1998-06-09 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Tue, 9 Jun 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I downloaded the sources for the 2.0.34 kernel and did a quick look through
 the files.  The fat-32 patches do not seem to be in here.  If 2.0.34 is to
 be released as a debian package, then I hope all of the patches that are in
 the 2.0.33 package are added.

I don't have a FAT32 system to check it, but there are several FAT32
references in the files in fs/fat/* which lead me to conclude that it
probably is there (maybe in a different form than the patches).

As usual, the documentation lags the code, of course.

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Re: kernel 2.0.34 and hamm

1998-06-06 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, 6 Jun 1998, Jesse Goldman wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Looks to me like kernel 2.0.34 is more than just a bugfix release. The
 aic7xxx/pci driver changed *completely* with the result that my adaptec
 2940AU no longer seems to work. I'd agree with the suggestion that 2.0.33
 be kept around a bit longer. 

Yes, AIC7XXX is a problem with 2.0.34.  This probably means that 2.0.35 will be 
forthcoming. 

Other than that, it looks pretty good to me.  Does anyone know what
changes there were from 2.0.34pre16?  Somehow I got dumped from the
linux-kernel mailing list for several days and missed any announcements.

Bob


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Re: ncftp status? (was re: Intent to package moxa radius)

1998-04-25 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Fri, 24 Apr 1998, Jules Bean wrote:

 Hmm..
 
 I don't see any version of ncftp 2 in frozen?
 
 Someone said it was GPL (and hence free) now?  And someone else said it had
 gone into hamm/main, but I don't seem to have it in my packages file...

ncftp_2.4.3-1.deb is in main/net.  There was a copy of 3.0 beta in
non-free, but it doesn't appear to be there any more.  Personally, I
didn't like it because a lot of the nice stuff in the previous version
wasn't included. 

Bob


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Re: /bin/sh has no man page.

1998-04-23 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote:

 /bin/sh is provided by bash, but doesn't come with its own man page.
 
 How does one determine the differences between sh and bash?
 
 Is there some documentation that I have missed?

It's a link:

$ ls -al /bin/sh
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root4 Apr 19 09:12 /bin/sh - bash

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