New author/maintainer for pinfo needed

2005-01-05 Thread Christian Kurz
Hi,

I've so far maintained the package pinfo, an alternative info-file
viewer. The last release has been some time ago and there are also some
open bug reports. I've talked with the author about the package and he
decided that he has no longer time to work on this package. Therefor the
program needs a new author to be viable in the future. Ideally the new
author is also a debian developer or in the new maintainer queue and
would take the package over. If nobody is interested in becoming the
author of pinfo, I'm going to orphan the package in a week.

Christian
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Accepted dput 0.9.2.15 (all source)

2004-11-27 Thread Christian Kurz
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 22:21:06 +0100
Source: dput
Binary: dput
Architecture: source all
Version: 0.9.2.15
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 dput   - Debian package upload tool
Closes: 268489 268489 279975
Changes: 
 dput (0.9.2.15) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * More verbose error message for ftp uploads. And also use active
 ftp per default. (Closes: #268489)
   * Fix user name selection.
   * dcut: gracefully fail if no uploader was specified.
 (Closes: #268489)
   * Again thanks to Thomas Viehmann for providing the patches
   * Applied a patch from Matthew Palmer to improve the parsing of
 comma-seperated values by dput. (Closes: #279975)
Files: 
 e4a3b33e1131b12fe7bd69c3e2e6c853 569 devel optional dput_0.9.2.15.dsc
 55a1088b171a0bc13e7d4e1d7aaa5280 51168 devel optional dput_0.9.2.15.tar.gz
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  to pool/main/d/dput/dput_0.9.2.15.tar.gz
dput_0.9.2.15_all.deb
  to pool/main/d/dput/dput_0.9.2.15_all.deb


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Accepted pinfo 0.6.8-3 (i386 source)

2004-10-23 Thread Christian Kurz
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 20:58:03 +0200
Source: pinfo
Binary: pinfo
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.6.8-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 pinfo  - An alternative info-file viewer
Closes: 261167 268591
Changes: 
 pinfo (0.6.8-3) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Fixed a typo in the infopage. (Closes:
   * Updated russian translation. (Closes: #268591)
   * Applied patch from Matthew Mueller to fix segfaults in pinfo
 when going back. (Closes: #261167)
   * The last two chances were included with the permission of the
 upstream author.
Files: 
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 10800dc05aa8fe54829b856fffc6c7ac 8488 doc optional pinfo_0.6.8-3.diff.gz
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pinfo_0.6.8-3.dsc
  to pool/main/p/pinfo/pinfo_0.6.8-3.dsc
pinfo_0.6.8-3_i386.deb
  to pool/main/p/pinfo/pinfo_0.6.8-3_i386.deb


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Accepted dput 0.9.2.14 (all source)

2004-08-13 Thread Christian Kurz
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 19:48:38 +0200
Source: dput
Binary: dput
Architecture: source all
Version: 0.9.2.14
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 dput   - Debian package upload tool
Changes: 
 dput (0.9.2.14) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Added Dutch debconf translation. Thanks to Luk Claes. This will
 address his bugreport #245920.
   * Added support for passing additional ssh_config options. This is
 based on a suggestion (and loosely on a patch) by Stefan Völkel.
 Thanks!
   * Very minor cleanup of dput.cf(5).
   * Fixed the debug message output for ftp connections. A patch for
 dcut was provided by Dann Frazier. The change for dput was based
 on it. Thanks!
Files: 
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 763ec6e98d80bdede3f26fb488c4a84b 60973 devel optional dput_0.9.2.14.tar.gz
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dput_0.9.2.14.tar.gz
  to pool/main/d/dput/dput_0.9.2.14.tar.gz
dput_0.9.2.14_all.deb
  to pool/main/d/dput/dput_0.9.2.14_all.deb


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Accepted tinycdb 0.74-1 (i386 source)

2004-07-28 Thread Christian Kurz
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 20:12:02 +0200
Source: tinycdb
Binary: tinycdb
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.74-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 tinycdb- a package for creating and reading constant databases
Changes: 
 tinycdb (0.74-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release.
Files: 
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 73a29c3ec6c1e5a07dc23ebd4b870bc9 27448 utils optional tinycdb_0.74.orig.tar.gz
 d8412d96f60318a6b69b9574f27eba66 3259 utils optional tinycdb_0.74-1.diff.gz
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tinycdb_0.74-1.dsc
  to pool/main/t/tinycdb/tinycdb_0.74-1.dsc
tinycdb_0.74-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/t/tinycdb/tinycdb_0.74-1_i386.deb
tinycdb_0.74.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/t/tinycdb/tinycdb_0.74.orig.tar.gz


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Accepted slidentd 1.0.0-1 (i386 source)

2004-07-28 Thread Christian Kurz
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 20:26:11 +0200
Source: slidentd
Binary: slidentd
Architecture: source i386
Version: 1.0.0-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 slidentd   - A minimal ident (RfC 1413) daemon
Changes: 
 slidentd (1.0.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release.
   * Changed architecture back to any since the necessary build
 depends are now available. This will address the bug #257422.
Files: 
 ef4569b3f1baee369c380f53a7473b2e 599 net extra slidentd_1.0.0-1.dsc
 59b89db95d447262894c5a56bd24ec04 30255 net extra slidentd_1.0.0.orig.tar.gz
 fe8b018639b225c9062db43d65e51cf7 3491 net extra slidentd_1.0.0-1.diff.gz
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slidentd_1.0.0-1.dsc
  to pool/main/s/slidentd/slidentd_1.0.0-1.dsc
slidentd_1.0.0-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/s/slidentd/slidentd_1.0.0-1_i386.deb
slidentd_1.0.0.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/s/slidentd/slidentd_1.0.0.orig.tar.gz


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Accepted dput 0.9.2.13 (all source)

2004-03-16 Thread Christian Kurz
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:34:03 +0100
Source: dput
Binary: dput
Architecture: source all
Version: 0.9.2.13
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 dput   - Debian package upload tool
Changes: 
 dput (0.9.2.13) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Added Japanese debconf translations. This fixes the bugreport #227825.
   * Added duct and duct.1 manpage to create and upload .command files. This
 will address the wishlist request #224524. Thanks to Thomas Viehmann
 for contributing that code.
   * dput will now recognize the options -P and --passive for passive ftp.
 This fixes the bug report #228826.
   * This also includes a patch from Thomas Viehmann to fix an incorrect
 debug message. #224404
Files: 
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 3a29ede2470d7607f2e7bbeec8a67d93 56409 devel optional dput_0.9.2.13.tar.gz
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dput_0.9.2.13.tar.gz
  to pool/main/d/dput/dput_0.9.2.13.tar.gz
dput_0.9.2.13_all.deb
  to pool/main/d/dput/dput_0.9.2.13_all.deb


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Accepted fbgetty 0.1.698-5 (i386 source)

2003-12-11 Thread Christian Kurz
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Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:18:34 +0100
Source: fbgetty
Binary: fbgetty
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.1.698-5
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian QA Group [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 fbgetty- A console getty with and without frame buffer capability
Changes: 
 fbgetty (0.1.698-5) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Orphaning the package.
Files: 
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 6e60c5f8f94e6f1a4bcc8ebb177669f3 5969 admin optional fbgetty_0.1.698-5.diff.gz
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fbgetty_0.1.698-5.dsc
  to pool/main/f/fbgetty/fbgetty_0.1.698-5.dsc
fbgetty_0.1.698-5_i386.deb
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Re: recovery status update

2003-12-05 Thread Christian Kurz
Hi James,

first let me thank you for your good work so far on the recovery of the
debian machines. I just wanted to add one note:

On [05/12/03  1:51], James Troup wrote:
 Use the anonymous upload queue on ftp-master.  I believe you want to
 use something like dupload --to anonymous-ftp-master foo.changes for
 dupload and dput ftp-master foo.changes for, err, dput.  But I don't
 use either of these programs and haven't tested that.

The default configuration of dput was changed in the past to use the
anonymous upload-queues. Only if people really want to use scp/rsync
(like I do when testing new releases), it's necessary to specify the
host. Otherwise it's enough if people use dput foo.changes, if they
haven't modified the default configuration (except for username. ;-)

Christian
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Accepted john 1.6-19 (i386 source)

2003-09-03 Thread Christian Kurz
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 22:17:09 +0100
Source: john
Binary: john
Architecture: source i386
Version: 1.6-19
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 john   - An active password cracking tool
Changes: 
 john (1.6-19) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * This release wouldn't have been possible without the help from Jeronimo
 Pellegrini and Gergely Nagy. Both were a great help for me and so it's
 only fair to credit them here and say a big THANK YOU!
   * john will create now the files john.pot, john.ini and restore in the
 directory where it was started from.
   * Changed the unshadow.1 manpage as suggested by Colin Watson. This means
 that one occurance of .br was replaced by .PP and an newline was added.
 This will address the issue of the slightly broken unshadow manpage,
 that has been reported as bug #142848.
   * The manpage john.1 won't mention the non-existing john-ini.5 anymore. This
 is going to fix the bug #122438.
   * Integrated two patches from Jeronimo Pellegrini that are going to improve
 the cronjob. Also thanks to Gergely Nagy for his help with devising and
 developing the patches. This should address bug #162991.
   * Also the whole setup and behaviour of the cronjob has been modified. This
 should also fix the bug #118012 since the code has been changed.
   * Updated the URL pointer in the FAQ. This should fix the bug report
 #159580.
   * Changed the wrong comment in the file /etc/john-mail.conf. This will fix
 the bug #162599.
   * Fixed the location of password.lst and the location of the files for the
 incremental mode in /etc/john.ini. This will fix the bugreport #79831.
   * Reworked support for translation of debconf messages. Now this package is
 using po-debconf for this purpose.
Files: 
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 e48f1804c1fe1e72db28522d10b9402b 14579 admin optional john_1.6-19.diff.gz
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john_1.6-19.dsc
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john_1.6-19_i386.deb
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Accepted fbgetty 0.1.698-4 (i386 source)

2003-08-27 Thread Christian Kurz
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 21:19:48 +0200
Source: fbgetty
Binary: fbgetty
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.1.698-4
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 fbgetty- A console getty with and without frame buffer capability
Changes: 
 fbgetty (0.1.698-4) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Added two more example issue files. Thanks to Robert Olejnik who
 pointed me to these two files, which I missed.
   * Also this release will contain the necessary code in postrm to
 uninstall the info page. This will fix the bug report #160570.
   * Changed the manpage to reference /sbin/fbgetty instead of
 /etc/fbgetty. This will fix the bug report #132850.
Files: 
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 25fe1bb6293aded7f9859dc30168896b 4814 admin optional fbgetty_0.1.698-4.diff.gz
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Accepted pinfo 0.6.8-1 (i386 source)

2003-08-23 Thread Christian Kurz
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Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 10:51:09 +0200
Source: pinfo
Binary: pinfo
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.6.8-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 pinfo  - An alternative info-file viewer
Changes: 
 pinfo (0.6.8-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New Upstream release.
   * This version will now correctly lookup entries in the dir page, when
 several matches are found. This fixes the bugreport #206155.
   * This version also allows selection of dir page with numbers. I verified
 this with the entry from automake-1.6. So the bugreport #186255 will
 now also be fixed.
   * The search prompt will now use a default item. So the bugreport #204055
 will now also be fixed.
Files: 
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 55feb4ebaa709b52bd00a15ed0fb52fb 319857 doc optional pinfo_0.6.8.orig.tar.gz
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pinfo_0.6.8-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/p/pinfo/pinfo_0.6.8-1_i386.deb
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Accepted slidentd 0.0.19-5 (i386 source)

2003-08-19 Thread Christian Kurz
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 13:00:21 +0200
Source: slidentd
Binary: slidentd
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.0.19-5
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 slidentd   - A minimal ident (RfC 1413) daemon
Changes: 
 slidentd (0.0.19-5) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Specify exactly the arches that slidentd can now be build on
 due to the new build-dependency on dietlibc-dev.
   * Fixed the postrm script to only remove the ident entry that it
 created and not others. This was reported together with the
 solution by Wesley W. Terpstra as bugreport #206249.
Files: 
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 9012166a514d70d335c6eee46a1c7fc4 3553 net extra slidentd_0.0.19-5.diff.gz
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slidentd_0.0.19-5.dsc
  to pool/main/s/slidentd/slidentd_0.0.19-5.dsc
slidentd_0.0.19-5_i386.deb
  to pool/main/s/slidentd/slidentd_0.0.19-5_i386.deb


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Accepted dput 0.9.2.11 (all source)

2003-08-16 Thread Christian Kurz
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Format: 1.7
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 11:09:06 +0200
Source: dput
Binary: dput
Architecture: source all
Version: 0.9.2.11
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 dput   - Debian package upload tool
Changes: 
 dput (0.9.2.11) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Removed the host chiark from the configuration file, since it's
 not available anymore according to Ross Burton. This will fix
 the bug that he reported as #190744.
   * Increased the allowed range of days for the delayed argument. This
 wil address the bugreport #196561.
   * Applied a patch from Thomas Viehmann to reformat the warning about
 lintian and the option -o. This issue was reported as bug #199905.
   * Applied a patch from Thomas Viehmann to support the usage of ~ for
 the local upload method. This issue was reported as bug #199912.
   * From now on, this package will use po-debconf for managing the
 translation of the debconf note. This change was introduced due
 to the work of Christian Perrier. This will address the issue
 reported as #200127.
   * Applied another patch from Thomas Viehmann to output an error
 message if the execution of an external command fails. This will
 address the issue reported as #172528.
Files: 
 62bc41f4a888f9ad722d4b3e2b3a8c47 568 devel optional dput_0.9.2.11.dsc
 73b12279e2d6e2cd04cad24ac483081f 41296 devel optional dput_0.9.2.11.tar.gz
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Accepted:
dput_0.9.2.11.dsc
  to pool/main/d/dput/dput_0.9.2.11.dsc
dput_0.9.2.11.tar.gz
  to pool/main/d/dput/dput_0.9.2.11.tar.gz
dput_0.9.2.11_all.deb
  to pool/main/d/dput/dput_0.9.2.11_all.deb


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Accepted slidentd 0.0.19-3 (i386 source)

2003-08-14 Thread Christian Kurz
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Format: 1.7
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:20:21 +0200
Source: slidentd
Binary: slidentd
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.0.19-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 slidentd   - A minimal ident (RfC 1413) daemon
Changes: 
 slidentd (0.0.19-3) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * The build-dependency of this package has been changed to dietlibc,
 because libowfat is linked against dietlibc. This also means that
 slidentd is now statically linked.
   * The postinst will not set the /usr/doc link anymore.
   * The copyright file not refers to the location of the GNU GPL.
   * Removed . from the end of the short description.
Files: 
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 6224603525269cbd6ecc5a648396fe56 3338 net extra slidentd_0.0.19-3.diff.gz
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Accepted:
slidentd_0.0.19-3.diff.gz
  to pool/main/s/slidentd/slidentd_0.0.19-3.diff.gz
slidentd_0.0.19-3.dsc
  to pool/main/s/slidentd/slidentd_0.0.19-3.dsc
slidentd_0.0.19-3_i386.deb
  to pool/main/s/slidentd/slidentd_0.0.19-3_i386.deb


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Accepted libowfat 0.15-1 (i386 source)

2003-06-19 Thread Christian Kurz
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Format: 1.7
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 08:18:50 +0200
Source: libowfat
Binary: libowfat-dev
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.15-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 libowfat-dev - A reimplementation of libdjb
Changes: 
 libowfat (0.15-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New Upstream release.
   * This release will fix the typo in the function buffer_GETC and
 therefor the bug report 192955 will be resolved.
Files: 
 39c8e7c3f44c2a1fe9888291d320663f 586 libdevel optional libowfat_0.15-1.dsc
 668841fba1e65468fee7134c958e3b55 92572 libdevel optional libowfat_0.15.orig.tar.gz
 dfa953e8099b3f0de982a3c6cedcfc6d 2446 libdevel optional libowfat_0.15-1.diff.gz
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Accepted:
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  to pool/main/libo/libowfat/libowfat-dev_0.15-1_i386.deb
libowfat_0.15-1.diff.gz
  to pool/main/libo/libowfat/libowfat_0.15-1.diff.gz
libowfat_0.15-1.dsc
  to pool/main/libo/libowfat/libowfat_0.15-1.dsc
libowfat_0.15.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/libo/libowfat/libowfat_0.15.orig.tar.gz


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Accepted dput 0.9.2.10 (all source)

2003-04-02 Thread Christian Kurz
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Format: 1.7
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:52:18 +0100
Source: dput
Binary: dput
Architecture: source all
Version: 0.9.2.10
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 dput   - Debian package upload tool
Changes: 
 dput (0.9.2.10) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Thanks to the offer from Thomas Viehmann, dput will now have two
 maintainers taking care of it.
   * Included a patch from Thomas Viehmann suppress error messages from
 dpkg which happened when the installed check was used. This will
 close the problem reported as #154960.
   * The option -o will now reliable simulate a normal run thanks to
 another patch from Thomas Viehmann. This will address the issue
 reported as #149711.
   * dput will now check the architecture in the installed packages
 check thanks to a patch from Thomas Viehmann. So the bug #154959
 will now also be solved.
   * Also dput will now not fail when trying to use a delayed directory,
 but instead report an error. And again thanks to Thomas Viehmann
 for the patch to solve the bug #182922.
   * Fixed bare debug statement that should have been caught earlier. This
 will now finally solve bug #133287.
   * Changed dependency on python to also include python 2.3 as requested by
 Robert Millan. He also verified that the basic functionality still works
 fine with the newer python version. So this will address the issue
 reported as bug #182800.
Files: 
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 dabcbdb8b70f1de9fba92724cd50f95d 37096 devel optional dput_0.9.2.10.tar.gz
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Accepted:
dput_0.9.2.10.dsc
  to pool/main/d/dput/dput_0.9.2.10.dsc
dput_0.9.2.10.tar.gz
  to pool/main/d/dput/dput_0.9.2.10.tar.gz
dput_0.9.2.10_all.deb
  to pool/main/d/dput/dput_0.9.2.10_all.deb


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Accepted pinfo 0.6.7-1 (i386 source)

2003-02-13 Thread Christian Kurz
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Format: 1.7
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:54:08 +0100
Source: pinfo
Binary: pinfo
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.6.7-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 pinfo  - An alternative info-file viewer
Changes: 
 pinfo (0.6.7-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New Upstream release.
   * Now pinfo will also recognize entries like 'xxx/yyy' which are for
 example used by emacs21. This will address the issue reported as
 #174418.
   * This version will now also support the proper usage of the option
 -f. It will recognize raw file names when they begin with certain
 characters. This should fix the issue reported as #153527.
Files: 
 53b81ca4c6fa84ca2f9bd0d23456a1e4 585 doc optional pinfo_0.6.7-1.dsc
 d0ac823aa8fe528ed54004d022cb0896 318720 doc optional pinfo_0.6.7.orig.tar.gz
 760fe706e584b389379e9b45f341e2a0 5044 doc optional pinfo_0.6.7-1.diff.gz
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Accepted:
pinfo_0.6.7-1.diff.gz
  to pool/main/p/pinfo/pinfo_0.6.7-1.diff.gz
pinfo_0.6.7-1.dsc
  to pool/main/p/pinfo/pinfo_0.6.7-1.dsc
pinfo_0.6.7-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/p/pinfo/pinfo_0.6.7-1_i386.deb
pinfo_0.6.7.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/p/pinfo/pinfo_0.6.7.orig.tar.gz


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Accepted tinycdb 0.73-1 (i386 source)

2002-12-10 Thread Christian Kurz
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Format: 1.7
Date: Tue,  5 Nov 2002 10:36:59 +0100
Source: tinycdb
Binary: tinycdb
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.73-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 tinycdb- a package for creating and reading constant databases
Changes: 
 tinycdb (0.73-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * First Debian release, based on the debian directory that
 Michael Tokarev, the upstream author, had provided in the
 package itself. So only some minor changes were necessary.
Files: 
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 4a751aad0ac3067a7b922c40e495d79e 20333 utils optional tinycdb_0.73.orig.tar.gz
 816d2fb937bede4484ab108e8aa77f44 2785 utils optional tinycdb_0.73-1.diff.gz
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Accepted:
tinycdb_0.73-1.diff.gz
  to pool/main/t/tinycdb/tinycdb_0.73-1.diff.gz
tinycdb_0.73-1.dsc
  to pool/main/t/tinycdb/tinycdb_0.73-1.dsc
tinycdb_0.73-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/t/tinycdb/tinycdb_0.73-1_i386.deb
tinycdb_0.73.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/t/tinycdb/tinycdb_0.73.orig.tar.gz


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Accepted dput 0.9.2.9 (all source)

2002-12-01 Thread Christian Kurz
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Date: Sun,  1 Dec 2002 16:39:27 +0100
Source: dput
Binary: dput
Architecture: source all
Version: 0.9.2.9
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 dput   - Debian package upload tool
Closes: 171006
Changes: 
 dput (0.9.2.9) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Another bugfix, because something broke the rsync upload method.
 A dummy variable will take care of this. (Closes: #171006)
Files: 
 70983ac53107e715596b593c7093ec33 554 devel optional dput_0.9.2.9.dsc
 4fb814fa1ccb32bc11d231d2e4f1fab2 35547 devel optional dput_0.9.2.9.tar.gz
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Accepted:
dput_0.9.2.9.dsc
  to pool/main/d/dput/dput_0.9.2.9.dsc
dput_0.9.2.9.tar.gz
  to pool/main/d/dput/dput_0.9.2.9.tar.gz
dput_0.9.2.9_all.deb
  to pool/main/d/dput/dput_0.9.2.9_all.deb


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Bug#171237: ITP: tinycdb -- a package for creating and reading constant databases

2002-11-30 Thread Christian Kurz
Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2002-11-30
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: tinycdb
  Version : 0.73
  Upstream Author : Michael J. Tokarev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : ftp://ftp.corpit.ru/pub/tinycdb
* License : Public Domain [1]
  Description : a package for creating and reading constant databases

 tinycdb is a small, fast and reliable utility set and subroutine
 library for creating and reading constant databases. The database
 structure is tuned for fast reading:
 .
  - Successful lookups take normally just two disk accesses.
  - Unsuccessful lookups take only one disk access.
  - Small disk space and memory size requirements; a database
uses 2048 bytes for the header and 24 bytes per record, plus
the space for keys and data.
  - Maximum database size is 4GB; individual record size is not
otherwise limited.
  - Portable file format.
  - Fast creation of new databases.
  - No locking, updates are atomical.
 .
 tinycdb implements almost all API as found in cdb-0.75 written by
 D.J. Bernstein, so it should be source-compatible. It also implements
 the query interface as found in earlier versions of cdb (0.6x) and
 freecdb. It also contains some enhancements, like allowing to check
 existance of a record in a yet-to-be-created cdb database file.
 .
 This package contains both the utility to manipulate constant
 databases and the development files.


[1] This is the complete license text for it:

|You can do whatever you like with this package.  The code is placed
|at the public domain.
|
|This package is distributed in a hope it will be useful, but
|WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
|MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

Both, the upstream author and I believe that this contains no legal
problem and is acceptable as DSFG-free license. If there's any problem
with the license, please inform me about the problem and a suggested
change.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux salem 2.4.20-rc2 #1 Sun Nov 17 10:28:49 CET 2002 i586
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Accepted libowfat 0.14-1 (i386 source)

2002-11-07 Thread Christian Kurz
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Format: 1.7
Date: Thu,  7 Nov 2002 10:17:02 +0100
Source: libowfat
Binary: libowfat-dev
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.14-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 libowfat-dev - A reimplementation of libdjb
Changes: 
 libowfat (0.14-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New Upstream release.
   * Removed postinst script since policy doesn't enforce it anymore. Also
 the prerm was removed due to the old script cleaning up /usr/doc.
Files: 
 ebc3dc1cf021531d3d1e0b28889c2d2a 557 devel optional libowfat_0.14-1.dsc
 80a5c0ede8b025c5afb639ce88069661 76636 devel optional libowfat_0.14.orig.tar.gz
 7a427d39bd9c121f21a6cd166de1668c 2216 devel optional libowfat_0.14-1.diff.gz
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Accepted:
libowfat-dev_0.14-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/libo/libowfat/libowfat-dev_0.14-1_i386.deb
libowfat_0.14-1.diff.gz
  to pool/main/libo/libowfat/libowfat_0.14-1.diff.gz
libowfat_0.14-1.dsc
  to pool/main/libo/libowfat/libowfat_0.14-1.dsc
libowfat_0.14.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/libo/libowfat/libowfat_0.14.orig.tar.gz


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Bug#129025: general: exim crash with sig11 while getservbyname

2002-01-14 Thread Christian Kurz
reassign 129025 exim
thanks

On 13/01/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Package: general
 Version: 20020113
 Severity: important

You are reporting a problem with the mail server software exim and so
this bug should reported against the package exim and not general.

 in exim-3.33/src/transports/smtp.c, line 1889:
 
 struct servent *smtp_service = getservbyname(ob-service, tcp);
 
 does a crash with signal 11 on my installation, i dunno but /etc/services
 seems correct and if i use the following, it works:

Seems? Do you have such an entry in /etc/services?

|smtp25/tcp  mail

Christian
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Re: Bug#125904: ITP: fungetty, a fun new getty for Linux framebuffers

2001-12-26 Thread Christian Kurz
On 25/12/01, Ben Pfaff wrote:
 Ben Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 02:36:52AM -0800, Ben Pfaff wrote:
   If so, then maybe you should have a look at fungetty, a
   replacement for the standard Linux getty that can display
   full-color graphics above the login prompt.  I hacked this up
   over the last week or so, and it seems to work pretty well.  It
   can display many kinds of PNG files above the login prompt.
   There are some bugs and limitations, but nothing unreasonable.

  How does this differ from fbgetty?

 fbgetty doesn't actually implement its `image' command for the
 issue file.  At least, AFAICT.  

And why then don't you hack on fbgetty and add the necessary code? You
could then send me a patch which I forward to the upstream author. So
far he hasn't been biting me and I think he would at least take a close
look at your patch and maybe completely or partial incorporate it. 

Upstream had to first fix some terminal issues which showed up and the
broken secure exec functionality to get fbgetty working fine again. The
next release after the current one, which I'm testing right now, will be
0.2.x and the new feature of actually implementing the image command
would be at least in my opinion a nice feature. So Ben, if you are
interested to hack on fbgetty to get the image functionality implemented
for the next release, just mail me privately. 

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Re: An alarming trend (no it's not flaimbait.) (fwd)

2001-12-26 Thread Christian Kurz
Damn, I didn't want to post here anymore, but looks like I need to add
some points. :-(

On 26/12/01, Brian Wolfe wrote:
   Heh, I was not aware that a non-developer could subscribe to d-d.

Looking at http://lists.debian.org and reading the list description
would have told you that before.

 On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 08:41:54AM +, David Graham wrote:
 SNIP

  Nice bait I'll bite, but if you want to read it you'll have to
  subscribe... It's not fair to throw the rock and hide the hand 

  1) learn how to properly format a mail message (i.e. fold at 75th
 column)

   Oops. Darnit, how to do this automaticly with vi?

By reading the documentation or hasn't vi some documentation? Look
around for textwidth and wrapmargin.

  2) learn how to package a deb and adopt whichever package you think
 you're better at maintaining than the original maintainer

   Read up on packaging, attempted applying diffs from debian , 
 sucessfully I might add. But as for creating new packages... I haven't had a 
 lot of time to try it. ;-P Mind you this has been in the last 2 years...

Aehm, if you already successfully applied the diffs to a source package,
then it's not difficult to build a new debian package from that source.
And it's enough if new developers start by taking over old packages that
they daily use and which have been orphaned. 

  3) if the package is dead upstream, fork it and maintain it
 yourself. Most free software licences allow it.

   Anyone care to donate a time machine to me? I know this sounds routine
 and a lot like an escapeism but. I honestly do not have to time to 
 maintain
 my own GPLd software, run a company, advocate Linux smartly, make nice with 
 the family, maintain a 5,000 sq ft warehouse, maintain my sanity, and have
 a life. Adding package maintenance would be just a little more, but i'd like
 to regain at least ONE of the seven days of the week for myself before delving
 into somethign as complex as properly packaging a program for debian.

Well, taking over the upstream for a software is quite difficult since
you need to know the source well and be a good programmer. But
maintaining a debian package doesn't require that much time and
knowledge. So if you find enough time to send loud complaintments to
this list and then discuss them, it would be better to stop sending
those complaints but instead spend the time by sending in an ITA or ITO
for some debian package and help improving debian.

   I can say this though, if Debian were to address the issues I have
 brought up in a realistic manner, I would be willing to toss my personal time
 into the project once I have some available, as well as possibly some idle
 company employee time once I can afford it.

Who is Debian? This is a _volunteer_ _based_ _organization_ so everyone
is spending the time on the tasks he's interested it. And even you won't
be able to force anyone to address the issues who posted, until either
he has enough interested and time to take care of some or you pay some
of our developers to take care of this issues. Or maybe you even find it
enough time to take care of them yourself and contribute that way to
Debian.

Christian

P.S.: I'm aware that some parts of this mail maybe seen as a bait for
flames, but that's not the intention. I'm just writing my own opinion
and statements about this and will now switch back to silence and
disappear in an unseens shadow. :-(
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Re: An alarming trend (no it's not flaimbait.)

2001-12-26 Thread Christian Kurz
So, that's hopefully my last post for quite a long time.

On 26/12/01, David D. W. Downey wrote:
 * Pierfrancesco Caci ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  1) learn how to properly format a mail message (i.e. fold at 75th
 column)

 Quit pickin at the measly stuff and pay attention to the content of
 his words. Laying the bear trap here only gets you laughs from the
 other hunters.

Wrong. If you want people to read a mail and follow the content, then
you have to proper format it, so that's it's easy to read it. Did you
ever read some books or newspapers and noticed the format that they are
using? With your argumentation we can remove all those formatting and
prints books and newspapers on a large paper roll and read it.

  2) learn how to package a deb and adopt whichever package you think
 you're better at maintaining than the original maintainer

 Pointing out a failure in a system doesn't mean one has the ability
 to do what you are asking. It simply means he found a failure. In

Not directly. He found a situation that he think it's flawed and which
needs to be changed. But without either having enough people interested
to take care of it, it won't change until he steps forward and starts
working on changing it.

 this instance, his becoming a maintainer does nothing to solve the
 problem he's point at other than for that single package. Pushing

Wrong, he can then help with other packages, make NMU's if the
maintainer gave him permission or track MIA developers done and then
orphan their package and let Debian QA take care of them. 

 someone off into this section only further proves the point that
 debian's starting to potentially fall apart since you completely
 prove that you either failed to hear or desired not to hear what
 his content.

And you seem to ignore that this is _volunteer_ _based_. Debian
Developers will work on those issues that they are interested in and not
the things you want to see them working on. If you want to see
Developers working on some issue, either start paying them for doing the
work, convince enough to work on the issue or start the work on your
own. The BTS will happily accept your mails and debian-qa will be
interested to hear about MIA developers which you tracked down and which
agree to orphan their packages or aren't reachable in any way.

 Why are you listing all that crap bub? Probably what a few of you
 are asking. Only to show my experience with different distros,
 linux, and where I feel I gain my credence for my vote for Brian's
 comments.

And then you are not able to use your experience to create solutions to
help debian but to also start lenghty discussions here? Thanks for
showing me that at least a part of our user base seems to have changed
and see Debian as company which they pay for and which they can force
into working on certain issues. 

 Debian is a solid distro to me. It's got heart, strength of
 charactor both in it's member software, and it's member users and
 developers. It's withstood 99% of the Let's add every feature we
 can lay our hands on cause that'll show we know what we're doing!
 crowd. It's solidly built, loved, and protected over by a loyal
 group of users. This is more than I can say for the majority of the
 distributions out there. 

So why are you then not contributing something back to the Debian
project if you quite like it that much?

 Folks, our user base (non official developers and general users
 alike) deserve to be listened to when they say something.

Listening is one thing, but doing something is much better and at least
people like you who according to their own description have enough
experience and knowledge, should think about spending some time on
helping and improving debian by working on it instead of starting
lenghty discussions and complaining loud.

 Why? Simply because of issues with Debian, be it the installer of
 old, the lack of certain support, all different reasons. But one

And you aren't able to work on the installer or even just clearly
describe the people working on it which parts need to be improved in
your opinion and why? Lack of certain support? Try to write exact
descriptions what kind of support you are lacking and then talk with the
maintainers who are responsible for it about adding it or helping them
add it. 

 *doesn't* happen to debian. If each maintainer is watching his or
 her upstream, updates with their source when it's released, and if
 the upstream is *not* providing the updates like they should, either

Pardon? You want to give us a exact defintion for updates like they
should? There's no way to define that and sometimes upstream authors
also disappear simply because they have a lack of time.

 announce to the BTS that the source is cold, or attempt to

Why should one do that? If the package is still working fine and
contained no bugs, there's in my opinion no need to do this. And if the
package is too buggy, it's easier to contact the ftpmaster via the BTS
and ask for package 

Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-26 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-25 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
 On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Christian Kurz wrote:
  On 01-09-24 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
   On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Christian Kurz wrote:
Hm, that doesn't make much sense too me. I think the best thing would be
to have /etc/bind inside $CHROOT and having no symlink. 

   And scratch the second-most important feature of Debian (the first one 
   being
   the DFSG)?  Do Not Move Config Files Out Of /etc. Ever. If you need it
   elsewhere, at least leave a symbolic link in place.

  But having a link from either the config-files in /etc/bind to $CHROOT
  or in the other direction, could be in my opinion a security risk. In my

 Oh, how so?

I think you know how the method of how to break out of a chroot. Having
some symlink inside the chroot would in my opinion make this task easier
then it normally is. But feel free to prove me wrong.

  and would instead suggestion to modify the documents stating that all
  config files should be in /etc to make a exception for $CHROOT.

 wears QA hat
 NEVER. This is not some low-grade distribution where you can go around
 scattering configuration files all over the filesystem.  I will fight tooth
 and nail against such an atrocity.
 /wears QA hat

Well, then we have to find some other way like cp, rsync, or something
else to keep one copy of the files in /etc and one in $CHROOT/etc. Using
mount --bind is like I stated before, no option.

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Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-26 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-25 Roberto Suarez Soto wrote:
 On Sep/25/2001, Christian Kurz wrote:
 
  Were exactly do we force them? Which debian packages do not work well
  with a 2.0.x kernel?
 
   I think that maybe he refers to the fact that, for example, you may
 have formatted your ext2 partitions so they are incompatible with 2.0.x

Well, I once heared about this, but never read an explanation what
exactly causes the differences in the ext2 partitions created while
running a 2.0.x kernel and why they have been introduced.

 kernels. Or to the lot of programs (iptables and related, for example) that
 only work with 2.4.x.

Well, iptables is only available for kernel 2.4.x, but with kernel 2.2.x
you can still build a firewall with ipchains or ipfwadm if you still use
a 2.0.x kernel. So if you want to build a firewall you are not forced to
kernel 2.4.x. The decision which kernel and software to use is still
left to the administrator.
 
  That's a nice attitude, which will lead to the situation that
  people, especially administrators, will move away from debian to either
  other distributions, a bsd flavour or other free operating systems.
 
   Have you tried any *BSD? I would prefer any Debian to them if I had to

Yes, I worked quite some time with FreeBSD and also took a short look at
NetBSD. (I hadn't time to install OpenBSD for testing purposes.)

 seriously take charge of one :-) (but again, that's only my opinion; and I'm

Well, I wouldn't agree with you, but that's an other discussion which
doesn't belong on this list.

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Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-26 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-26 Riku Voipio wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 04:34:31PM +0200, Christian Kurz wrote:
  On 01-09-25 Steve Greenland wrote:
   I am so tired of hearing things like this. Nobody is forcing anyone to
   do anything. We already force them to use 2.2 instead of still using
   2.0. You want the functionality, you use the right tools. You want to
 
  Were exactly do we force them? Which debian packages do not work well
  with a 2.0.x kernel?
 
 apt-cache search usb
 
 for example.

Which package exactly do you mean? I don't see any package in that list
which would force you to use a kernel 2.4.x. Also do you really want to
compare hardware for the usb port with a daemon that you run on a
server?

   stick with 2.2, then *you* deal with the issues. The maintainers have
 
  That's a nice attitude, which will lead to the situation that
  people, especially administrators, will move away from debian to either
  other distributions, a bsd flavour or other free operating systems.

 Forcing new users to deal with historic burden is not an answer.

Pardon? New users are absolutely not forced to deal with historic
burden. I'm just proposing that any script or debian package which
offers to create a bind chroot should not depend on new kernel specific
stuff like mount -bind. 

 I really can't understand your problem with limiting chroot bind9 
 feature to kernels with --bind mounts support. They still can run bind9 
 perfectly, although less securely. 

So, you want to either force every admin running bind9 to either upgrade
to kernel 2.4.x or have a less secure system? That's like I stated
before a good approach if you want to have people move to some other
distribution or free operating system, but not to have people use debian
anymore.
 
 If 2.2 kernel users want chrooted bind, they 

 a) have already done it - no extra work

So let's forget those users and ignore that they maybe also happy about
having a debian package set up a chroot for them?

 b) upgrade to 2.4   - sheez, that was hard...

Which is not always an option. 

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Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-26 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-26 Roberto Suarez Soto wrote:
 On Sep/26/2001, Christian Kurz wrote:
 I think that maybe he refers to the fact that, for example, you may
   have formatted your ext2 partitions so they are incompatible with 2.0.x
  Well, I once heared about this, but never read an explanation what
  exactly causes the differences in the ext2 partitions created while
  running a 2.0.x kernel and why they have been introduced.
 
   The features are documented in mke2fs(8), under -O (or it seems, for
 what I've seen). They don't seem to be too useful (unless I'm missing
 something), but anyway they are there.

Thanks for the pointer, which explains the features and partly reasons
for them. If someone has a pointer to an even more detailed or longer
explanation, please mail me.
 
  Well, iptables is only available for kernel 2.4.x, but with kernel 2.2.x
  you can still build a firewall with ipchains or ipfwadm if you still use

   Yes, but it's not the same building a firewall with 2.4.x and building
 a firewall with 2.2.x or 2.0.x. There are a few things that you can do only
 with 2.4, not with lower versions. Stateful firewalling, for example.

Well, you may have not the full features available but you can build
with all version a firewall and have at least filtering per ip or port
available. So compared to the situation with bind, by using cp,rsync or
some other tool for keeping the config files in sync, this would still
be possible. If mount -bind is used for creating the chroot this would
not be possible and it would be like needing kernel 2.4.x for building a
firewall.
 
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Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-25 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-24 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
 On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Christian Kurz wrote:
  Hm, that doesn't make much sense too me. I think the best thing would be
  to have /etc/bind inside $CHROOT and having no symlink. 
 
 And scratch the second-most important feature of Debian (the first one being
 the DFSG)?  Do Not Move Config Files Out Of /etc. Ever. If you need it
 elsewhere, at least leave a symbolic link in place.

But having a link from either the config-files in /etc/bind to $CHROOT
or in the other direction, could be in my opinion a security risk. In my
opinion there should be absolutely no link from $CHROOT to any file
outside the chroot. So instead of creating a $CHROOT that contains
everything without any link to the outside you want to decrease the
security by having links from outside to inside? I don't agree with that
and would instead suggestion to modify the documents stating that all
config files should be in /etc to make a exception for $CHROOT.

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Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-25 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-25 Wichert Akkerman wrote:
 Previously Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
  And scratch the second-most important feature of Debian (the first one being
  the DFSG)?  Do Not Move Config Files Out Of /etc. Ever. If you need it
  elsewhere, at least leave a symbolic link in place.
 
 bind mounts.

As I wrote in two emails before, this isn't a solution, since this
forces an administrator to use kernel 2.4.x instead of maybe still using
2.2.x.

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Re: what happened to the dput package?

2001-09-25 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-25 Jochen Voss wrote:
 there used to be a package called dput,
 but now I cannot find it anymore.  For example
 visiting
 
 http://packages.debian.org/dput
 
 shows the message No responses to your query
 and aptitude lists it as an obsolete package.
 What happened to this package?  Was it renamed?
 Or did a do something wrong?

No, you did absolutely nothing wrong. Due to the new dependency on GnuPG
of dput, it had to be removed from ftp.debian.org and reuploaded to
non-us.debian.org. But after uploading it to non-us.debian.org there's
still some action from the ftp masters needed to make it available
again. This hasn't happened so far. I can make a temporary second upload
of the current package version to people.debian.org.

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Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-25 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-25 Steve Greenland wrote:
 On 25-Sep-01, 03:12 (CDT), Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  
  As I wrote in two emails before, this isn't a solution, since this
  forces an administrator to use kernel 2.4.x instead of maybe still using
  2.2.x.
 
 I am so tired of hearing things like this. Nobody is forcing anyone to
 do anything. We already force them to use 2.2 instead of still using
 2.0. You want the functionality, you use the right tools. You want to

Were exactly do we force them? Which debian packages do not work well
with a 2.0.x kernel?

 stick with 2.2, then *you* deal with the issues. The maintainers have

That's a nice attitude, which will lead to the situation that
people, especially administrators, will move away from debian to either
other distributions, a bsd flavour or other free operating systems.

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Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-25 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-25 Martin F Krafft wrote:
 also sprach Christian Kurz (on Mon, 24 Sep 2001 10:59:13PM +0200):
  Hm, that doesn't make much sense too me. I think the best thing would be
  to have /etc/bind inside $CHROOT and having no symlink. 

 except if you want to enable the usual /etc/bind/ editing of
 conf-files, which would make administering the chroot no different
 than administering the non-chrooted bind.

Wouldn't that also be possible by using cp -axp to sync the two copies
of the config files? 

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Re: what happened to the dput package?

2001-09-25 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-25 Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
 On 25-Sep-2001 Steve M. Robbins wrote:
  On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 02:10:22PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote:
  On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 02:07:36PM +0200, Jochen Voss wrote:
   there used to be a package called dput,
   but now I cannot find it anymore.  For example
   visiting
   
   http://packages.debian.org/dput
   
   shows the message No responses to your query
   and aptitude lists it as an obsolete package.
   What happened to this package?  Was it renamed?
   Or did a do something wrong?
  
  It's moving to non-us, but is (was?) NEW, pending an overrides update.
  
  Really?  Why?
 
 it likely wants to depend on ssh.

No, dput doesn't depend on ssh, it only suggest it like rsync. But it
depends on GnuPG now, therefor the change.

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Re: what happened to the dput package?

2001-09-25 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-25 Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
  No, dput doesn't depend on ssh, it only suggest it like rsync. But it
  depends on GnuPG now, therefor the change.
 
 why the depends on gpg?

Because the default behaviour of dput is to check the signatures on the
.dsc and the .changes file. So it won't be useful without GnuPG in the
default behaviour except you select to ignore the signature check.

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Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-24 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-23 Martin F Krafft wrote:
 complicated for i did not know about the mount --bind option. sure,
 this only works with 2.4.x, but if any chroot changes to bind9 are
 going public, then this will be bundled with a 2.4.x kernel-image,
 right? will testing be 2.4.x?

So you want to force everyone who is interested in running this chroot
to use a kernel 2.4.x at least? That's in my opinion a not acceptable
solution, since the decision which kernel is used, should never be
depending on a chroot-setup, but on the decision of the system
administrator. So this script should work with kernel 2.2.x and 2.4.x so
that everyone can use it with the kernel version he likes to use. 

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Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-24 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-24 Marco d'Itri wrote:
 On Sep 24, Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  So you want to force everyone who is interested in running this chroot
  to use a kernel 2.4.x at least? That's in my opinion a not acceptable
 Yes, since managing a chroot environment without bind mounts is way

It maybe harder, but that's not a good reason to force system
administrator to run a kernel 2.4.x for having the bind debian package
chrooted. The reason which kernel version is used on a server should
always belong to the admin and should never be imposed by some software.

 harder and IMO cannot easily/correctly be done by a package.

Why not? What do you think makes that part so difficult?

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Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-24 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-24 Martin F Krafft wrote:
 also sprach Christian Kurz (on Mon, 24 Sep 2001 10:31:54AM +0200):
  So you want to force everyone who is interested in running this chroot
  to use a kernel 2.4.x at least? That's in my opinion a not acceptable
  solution, since the decision which kernel is used, should never be
  depending on a chroot-setup, but on the decision of the system
  administrator. So this script should work with kernel 2.2.x and 2.4.x so
  that everyone can use it with the kernel version he likes to use. 
 
 okay, you do have a point. it's not too difficult to make bind
 chrooted without remounting /etc/bind - one way would be to store

Thanks, that would be in my opinion the best option, since that way
every administrator can use the kernel version he wants.

 $CHROOT/etc/bind in the chroot, and then have a symlink from the real
 /etc/bind to the chroot one.

Hm, that doesn't make much sense too me. I think the best thing would be
to have /etc/bind inside $CHROOT and having no symlink. 

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Re: gpg and trustdb very slow

2001-09-18 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-18 Joey Hess wrote:
 It'd be nice if someone would look at optimizing it sometime; the
 behavior I see with strace is absurd, and could easily be done with no
 syscalls, at least, by just reading the whole trustdb into memory.

I know that the Werner revamped the whole keyring code about 1 or two
weeks ago. I just tried the --list-keys with my private and the debian
keyring specified in the options file and I didn't took more then 5
minutes for me. (AMD K6-200). So I don't think if anyone would really
want to optimize the code more, he should look at the current cvs code.

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Re: ddts: notification about pt_BR-translation of the hello-debhelper description

2001-09-07 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-06 Nick Phillips wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 07:47:26PM +0200, Christian Kurz wrote:
upstream packages because they are not part of a package? The
translation of the error messages and other messages of a program belong
to the package of it. 

   That depends on whether you're distributing one package or thousands.

  Why do make this dependant on the number of packages? I think that using
  some count like you do, is a bad thing.

 Because if you're only distributing one package or small group of packages
 (say, KDE), then your focus is making the translations available for all the

So you want to compare packages from an upstream with packages created
by either someone or a team for a distribution? 

 people who use that package, whether or not the particular distribution
 they got it from has infrastructure to support translations. Hence it makes
 sense to put the translations in the package in that case.

 If on the other hand you are one of those distributions, distributing
 all sorts of packages, some of which have upstream translations, some of
 which don't, some of whose maintainers are able and willing to spend time
 on translations, some of whose maintainers aren't, then it doesn't make
 sense to set yourselves up in such a way (translations always living in
 packages) that translations will only be available when the maintainer
 does work on them.

Which creates the situation, that packages in debian will on the one
hand be different then the one you can get from the upstream and on the
other hand it's a violation of our social-contract:

| software will be widely distributed and used. We will feed back
| bug-fixes, improvements, user requests, etc. to the upstream authors
| of software included in our system.

So if we correct wrong translation or create a new translation, then we
shall send it to the upstream and inform them. With your suggestion
above, this will only happen, if either the translator is doing this
task also or if the maintainer is taking care of the translation. In all
other cases, where the maintainer is not taking care of the translation,
we'll have a nice violation of that statement. And since the maintainer
is the contact to the upstream and responsible for the debian package,
he shall be involved in the translation.

Splitting translation out of upstream packages is in my opinion a bad
thing and should never be done.

   But if we want to be, and are, able to easily add extra translations, or
   override poor-quality upstream translations (all without causing hassles 
   for
   maintainers), then why not?

  Because for example I would prefer to be informed if any of my packages
  has a bad upstream translation and some has better one for me. Then I
  can forward and discuss it with the upstream and he can include it maybe
  in the official upstream sources. That way we wouldn't only improve the
  translation for people using debian, but also for people who are using
  some other free operating system and the upstream package.

 Fine, no-one is saying that you shouldn't be able to arrange to be notified
 when a particular package has a translation made available.

And how do you propose to integration this notifications? According to
your statement, everyone can update the translation without having to
hassle with me and that's the point which makes me sad.

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Re: ddts: notification about pt_BR-translation of the hello-debhelper description

2001-09-06 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-05 Nick Phillips wrote:
 The translation of any part of a package, be it the text of error messages,

So, shall we now remove all .po files and other translation from
upstream packages because they are not part of a package? The
translation of the error messages and other messages of a program belong
to the package of it. 

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Re: ddts: notification about pt_BR-translation of the hello-debhelper description

2001-09-06 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-06 Nick Phillips wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 01:08:25PM +0200, Christian Kurz wrote:
  On 01-09-05 Nick Phillips wrote:
   The translation of any part of a package, be it the text of error 
   messages,

  So, shall we now remove all .po files and other translation from
  upstream packages because they are not part of a package? The
  translation of the error messages and other messages of a program belong
  to the package of it. 

 That depends on whether you're distributing one package or thousands.

Why do make this dependant on the number of packages? I think that using
some count like you do, is a bad thing.

 If upstream includes translations, then we don't have to worry about the
 maintainer managing inclusion of whichever languages people happen to write
 translations for.

 But if we want to be, and are, able to easily add extra translations, or
 override poor-quality upstream translations (all without causing hassles for
 maintainers), then why not?

Because for example I would prefer to be informed if any of my packages
has a bad upstream translation and some has better one for me. Then I
can forward and discuss it with the upstream and he can include it maybe
in the official upstream sources. That way we wouldn't only improve the
translation for people using debian, but also for people who are using
some other free operating system and the upstream package.

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Re: ddts: notification about pt_BR-translation of the hello-debhelper description

2001-09-05 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-04 Nick Phillips wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 09:06:04PM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote:
 I don't expect most maintainers to be able or inclined to keep track of
 a shedload of different translations, and those who are that keen should

May I ask if you are aware about the ongoing translation of the debconf
templates via the bts? If yes, would you mind explaining what's the
difference between keeping track of thsoe translation/bugreports and
keeping track of the package translation via a simple ddts mail?

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Re: ddts: notification about pt_BR-translation of the hello-debhelper description

2001-09-05 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-04 Wouter Verhelst wrote:
 On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Michael Bramer wrote:

  Maybe I have on next WE more time and I can improve the server and
  make this notification mail configable per package and someone can
  remove his packages from the notification process. 

 You didn't already?

 Jeez... In the US, this is illegal... and isn't gluck located in the
 states?

Would you telling me which part of this emails make them exactly
illegal? They maybe annoying for some people, but they are not illegal
in my opion. [1]

Christian

[1] No, I'm not a lawyer.

P.S.: If you already call this e-Mails illegal, did you started lawsuits
against all other us-based senders of mails to you, which you consider
illegal?
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Re: CUPS

2001-09-04 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-03 Michael Meskes wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 11:16:31AM -0500, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
  Probably because you're supposed to use a gooey web browser to add
  a printer... a bit much for a postinst script. 
 
 Not exactly. The way I read the docs you can use lpadmin from the
 commandline to add a printer. In fact it works for the default deskjet ppd.

Well, that's also a possible method for adding a printer. Do you get any
error messages then on the console or in the logfiles beneath
/var/log/cups? 

  WTF is cupsomatic-ppd anyway? Go to http://localhost:631, add _a_ 
  printer (say, call it foobar), get a PPD for your printer and copy 
  it to /etc/cups/ppd/foobar.ppd. You can then use web frontend to 
  configure things, duplex printing, watermark etc. Works for me.
 
 But that's a hack and not a real configuration option. 

Hm, do you need the cupsomatic-ppd because there's no other ppd file in
the cups package for your printer available?

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Re: RFC: Signed packages and translations

2001-09-02 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-01 Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
 Can you store multiple signitures in the same file?

Yes, that possible by using the OpenPGP format. You'll either need to
use one-pass-signature packets, like GnuPG does by default, or the
cleartext signed format.

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Re: RFC: Signed packages and translations

2001-09-02 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-01 Simon Richter wrote:
 On Sat, 1 Sep 2001, Christian Kurz wrote:
   not be ascii armored since this would only introduce transmission overhead
   and gain nothing. The file name for this file is constructed from the

  Why does it gain nothing? What about problems during transmission? The
  ascii armor output which is protected by a crc checksum would help
  notice such a transmission problem.

 dpkg already has a mechanism for finding packages that have been corrupted
 by transferring them in ASCII mode. I mean, the .tar.gz is already binary,

Since which day does dpkg download packages in ascci-mode from a url?
Are you sure that you are not mixing up dpkg and apt-get? dpkg has as
far as I know no mechanismen to detected corrupted packages and therefor
having an ascii-armored signatures, with a crc checksum to detect
transmission errors will be helpful.

 so why should the file following it be ASCII?

Because there are situations where you don't use a tool that checks if
the transmission was fine. You should not only find a solution for the
specific case, that a tool downloads the packages from a server and
already checks if the transmission was fine, but also for situations
where such a tool is not provided.

   If the original filename is no more than sizeof(ar_name)-2 bytes
   long, .s is appended to it. If it is longer, the part of the
   file name before the

  .s? Another new extension? If you want to achive confusion for our users
  and developers, that's a possible way to go. If you really don't want to
  use ascii armor, then the extension should be .sig or if you use
  ascii-armor then .asc.

 The problem here is the filename length limit. I would have gone for
 .sig otherwise. Besides, you will only see those if you look at .deb
 files directly.

And that will never happen? I'm tempted to say that there are cases
where you have to look into the .deb directly or extract it via ar/tar.
And the people will be confused in those cases, if they notice a file
called .s, because that's an unusual extension. 

- Modify the autobuilders and existing developer scripts
(debsign) so that they call dpkg-deb to sign the packages
additionally to signing the .changes file.

  Sign packages build by an auto-builder?

 Of course. katie needs to verify that they were indeed created by an
 official autobuilder.

How do you want to handle the issue with the passphrase in a secure way?
How do you want to ensure that the key is safely placed on the
autobuilder and how do you want to ensure that only trusted people have
access to the autobuilder and especially this key? Placing a key on an
auto-builder with script that contains the passphrase to sign all
packages, is hazardous.

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Re: CUPS

2001-09-02 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-02 Michael Meskes wrote:
 I wanted to install DeskJet_670C-cdj670.ppd or DeskJet_670C-pcl3.ppd from
 cupsomatic-ppd but just got a
 
 lpadmin: add-printer failed: The requested resource was not found on this 
 server.

Would you mind telling us which version of cups you have installed? You
didn't include that information.

 Anyway, there does not seem to be much documentation and the web interface
 on port 631 gives some error messages resp. tells me that the resource is
 not available.

Under the following URL http://localhost:631/documentation.html is a lot
of documentation about Cups, especially also an administrator and an
user manual.

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Re: FWD: Popularity-contest submission doesn't go through to apenwarr-survey@klecker.debain.org

2001-04-30 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-04-29 Joey Hess wrote:
 Anyone have a clue?
 
 Received: from myhostname.my.isp.com ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1])
   by localhost (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7/Debian 8.12.0.Beta7-1) with
 +ESMTP id f3QDlYZ2018784
 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 07:47:34
 +-0600

Suddenly here the email is address to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
while in the previous line:

 Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
   by myhostname.my.isp.com (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7/Debian
 +8.12.0.Beta7-1) id f3QDkJuS015600
   for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 07:46:19 -0600

Here it's addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] So I would assume
that something on myhostname.my.isp.com is rewriting the email
@debian.org to @klecker.debian.org. And I don't think that this
localpart apenwarr-survey is available in the sub-domain
klecker.debian.org but instead in the domain debian.org. So I would
suggest that the configuration of this mail-server myhostname.my.isp.com
will be checked to see why suddenly the rcpt-to changes.

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Re: FWD: Popularity-contest submission doesn't go through to apenwarr-survey@klecker.debain.org

2001-04-30 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-04-30 Matthijs Melchior wrote:
 Christian Kurz wrote:
  On 01-04-29 Joey Hess wrote:
   Anyone have a clue?

   Received: from myhostname.my.isp.com ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1])
 by localhost (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7/Debian 8.12.0.Beta7-1) with
   +ESMTP id f3QDlYZ2018784
   for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 07:47:34
   +-0600

  Suddenly here the email is address to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  while in the previous line:

   Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
 by myhostname.my.isp.com (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7/Debian
   +8.12.0.Beta7-1) id f3QDkJuS015600
 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 07:46:19 -0600

  Here it's addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] So I would assume
  that something on myhostname.my.isp.com is rewriting the email
  @debian.org to @klecker.debian.org. And I don't think that this
  localpart apenwarr-survey is available in the sub-domain
  klecker.debian.org but instead in the domain debian.org. So I would
  suggest that the configuration of this mail-server myhostname.my.isp.com
  will be checked to see why suddenly the rcpt-to changes.

 

   Please look at the following:

 $ host -v -t MX -A debian.org
 Query about debian.org for record types MX
 Found 1 address for debian.org
 Checking debian.org address 198.186.203.20
  !!! debian.org address 198.186.203.20 maps to klecker.debian.org
 $ host -v -A http.us.debian.org
[...]
 So, mail to debian.org is the same as mail to klecker.debian.org 

No! This is absolutely wrong. The output just shows that the MX
(Mail-Exchange) for the domain debian.org is klecker.debian.org. This
has absolutely nothing to do with the email-address under the domain
@debian.org. Never assume from an MX output something about the
mail-address and local-parts in a domain and/or it's subdomains.

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Re: Lightweight Web browsers

2001-04-27 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-04-27 Jérôme Marant wrote:
 Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  May I ask why you don't mention that this is a web browser for Gnome?
  This information would be helpful for people that look for a lightweight
  HTML browser, but don't want to install Gnome. For those people this
  browser will not be a alternative, since it pulls in the whole bunch of
  gnome libs. :(

   I mainly focused on low memory consumption, and Encompass meet this
   requirement.

Since maybe it wasn't obvious. I quite like to see software and
especially a web browser that doesn't use much memory.

   Then, mentioning Gnome usually make people think that the Gnome
   Desktop Environment is required to run the browser which is not the
   case.

Well, I think that's a wrong assumption that people make, but you can't
change it. So maybe it should have been worded mentioned the dependency
on the gnome libs.

   And unless you have disk space restrictions, I don't see the problem
   with installing gnome libs since these are shared between a growing
   number of applications.
   (Political reasons for not installing Gnome are not good reasons)

Sarcasm
So come on people, let's install all 6000 packages, because maybe we
could use them once.
/Sarcasm

Well, I just try to keep my system as clean as possible, which includes
for me that I also check the installed libraries. And every time I try
one of those gnome apps, I'm astonished about the big bunch of libraries
that I have to install. Therefor I would prefer applications that just
depend on the GTK Libraries and not the Gnome-Libraries. Therefor I
would prefer it to know in advance if an ITP'ed software could become
interesting for me or not.

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Re: Lightweight Web browsers

2001-04-27 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-04-27 Jérôme Marant wrote:
 Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Sarcasm
  So come on people, let's install all 6000 packages, because maybe we
  could use them once.
  /Sarcasm

   Listen, I've packaged it in order to make available in debs for
   people willing to test it. Now, don't blame me about those gnome
   dependencies since I'm not upstream. APT is ment to show you
   packages to be installed and does not force you to install.

He, I didn't blame you or anyone else for this, I just used some sarcasm
around your statement about disk space. 

   And apologies for not mentioning Gnome ... (since it seemed to
   bother you)

Not only me. It's just that the Gnome Libaries install a bunch of
packages and also need quite some disk-space. Therefor I and I think
some other people too would like to know before if the software depends
on that bunch of libraries or not.

  Well, I just try to keep my system as clean as possible, which includes
  for me that I also check the installed libraries. And every time I try
  one of those gnome apps, I'm astonished about the big bunch of libraries
  that I have to install. Therefor I would prefer applications that just
  depend on the GTK Libraries and not the Gnome-Libraries. Therefor I
  would prefer it to know in advance if an ITP'ed software could become
  interesting for me or not.

   Please note that did not ITPed it since I'm not sure people except
   from me are interested in such a browser. And It does not seem to make
   you very happy. Unless people are interested to see it in debian
   I won't upload it.

Sorry, I forgot that when I wrote my statement.

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Re: Lightweight Web browsers

2001-04-26 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-04-26 Jérôme Marant wrote:
   However, I found a simple HTML browser called Encompass
   that takes far less memory than those I mentioned. Of course,
   it does not have all the feature these browsers can offer
   but it does handle HTML pretty well. I've build debs you can
   find there:

May I ask why you don't mention that this is a web browser for Gnome?
This information would be helpful for people that look for a lightweight
HTML browser, but don't want to install Gnome. For those people this
browser will not be a alternative, since it pulls in the whole bunch of
gnome libs. :(

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Re: lilo.conf

2001-01-07 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-01-06 Matt Zimmerman wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 05:40:53PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote:
  On 01-01-06 Matt Zimmerman wrote:
   On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 01:58:48PM +0100, Cosimo Alfarano wrote:
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 01:33:57PM +0100, Peter Makholm wrote:
 Don't assume devfs! A lot of us uses it, but before our standard
 kernel uses it our lilo package shouldn't assume it unless it is very
 sure that it will work.

He shouldn't assume it even if debian standard kernel package uses it.
A lot of users don't use them (both std kernel and devfs).
  
   Especially since devfs support is still considered experimental.
  
  Hm, it's not marked as experimental in kernel 2.4.0, but as work in
  progress. So support for it would be really good.

 mizar:[~/src/linux/2.4.0/linux] egrep 'VERSION|LEVEL' Makefile  | head -3
 VERSION = 2
 PATCHLEVEL = 4
 SUBLEVEL = 0
 mizar:[~/src/linux/2.4.0/linux] grep -B 1 ^CONFIG_DEVFS_FS 
 Documentation/Configure.help
 /dev file system support (EXPERIMENTAL)
 CONFIG_DEVFS_FS
 mizar:[~/src/linux/2.4.0/linux] grep ' CONFIG_DEVFS_FS ' fs/Config.in
 dep_bool '/dev file system support (EXPERIMENTAL)' CONFIG_DEVFS_FS 
 $CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL

 It will only show up if CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL is defined.

Hm, did you bother to read the explanation of devfs? There you find a
statement, that is work in progress and so I wouldn't consider it
experimental anymore.

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Re: (open)ssh-2.3.0p1 when??

2001-01-07 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-01-07 Brian Frederick Kimball wrote:
 Damian M Gryski wrote:

  On Sun, 07 Jan 2001, Svante Signell wrote:
   Is openssh ever going to be upgraded? Latest unstable version is
   2.2.0p1-1.1 from September? while the latest OpenBSD release is now
   2.3.0p1! Maybe the package also should change name from ssh to openssh.
  
 openssh 2.3.0p1 was installed into unstable (sid) on Dec 30.

Huh? Where did you got this information? There was only an upload to
non-us on Dec 30.

 Just uploaded or actually installed?  It didn't show up on
 non-us.debian.org until today (Jan 7th).

I think the package should show up soon on non-us.

Ciao
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Re: Upcoming Events in Germany

2001-01-06 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-01-06 Goswin Brederlow wrote:
== Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   July 5-8 LinuxTag 2001, Stuttgart http://www.linuxtag.org/
   http://www.infodrom.ffis.de/Debian/events/LinuxTag2001/

 Already planed to be there.

I will be there any way, but I have to work out some other things
before.

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Re: lilo.conf

2001-01-06 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-01-06 Matt Zimmerman wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 01:58:48PM +0100, Cosimo Alfarano wrote:
  On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 01:33:57PM +0100, Peter Makholm wrote:
   Don't assume devfs! A lot of us uses it, but before our standard
   kernel uses it our lilo package shouldn't assume it unless it is very
   sure that it will work.
  
  He shouldn't assume it even if debian standard kernel package uses it.
  A lot of users don't use them (both std kernel and devfs).

 Especially since devfs support is still considered experimental.

Hm, it's not marked as experimental in kernel 2.4.0, but as work in
progress. So support for it would be really good.

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Re: Anybody seen Loic Prylli lately?

2001-01-04 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-01-04 Chuan-kai Lin wrote:
 Does anyone know where Loic has been lately (i.e., for the past two years
 or so)?  AFAIK his last package upload was in November 1998, and the mail
 I sent him about whether he needs help with mailx has generated no reply.
 Since mailx is important, if the maintainer is indeed MIA, somebody should
 take over this package and jove.  I would volunteer for mailx in the
 unlikely event that nobody else wants that package.

If you would have looked into unstable first, you would have noticed
that jove has been taken over by Cord Beermann, an upcoming new
maintainer and I had once a contact with Loic to talk with him about his
jove package. Now I'm waiting for his answer about mailx, so please wait
some time more, so that I be able to get an answer from him.

Ciao
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Re: List of packages that could be dropped

2000-12-28 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-12-28 Wichert Akkerman wrote:
 Previously Christian Kurz wrote:
  |dpkg-scriptlib -- dpkg-perl and dpkg-python  (142 days old)
  
  Is any package using functions of dpkg-perl or dpkg-python? If yes, I
  think someone should take care of this packages and the bugs that are in
  them. If not, could we move this packages from our distribution to
  experimental until they are fixed and a new maintainer for them has been
  found?

 tetex depends on dpkg-perl.

Hm, could this be the scripts written in sh-syntax. If I remember
correctly, they are just doing some file-test and linking.

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Re: List of packages that could be dropped

2000-12-27 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-12-26 Ben Collins wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 03:22:21PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote:
  
  |silo (195 days old)
  
  Has this package been removed from unstable and if yes, why? It's
  currently still listed in the wnpp but I could find it which apt-cache
  search silo.

 You can only remove this if you want sparc to be unbootable, which I
 hope is not your intention.

If it's so important why is still marked as orphaned in wnpp? Or has
already some taken over maintainership and just forgotten that there
exists the WNPP?

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Re: List of packages that could be dropped

2000-12-27 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-12-27 Jonathan McDowell wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 06:59:16PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
  On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 03:22:21PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote:
   
   |silo (195 days old)
   
   Has this package been removed from unstable and if yes, why? It's
   currently still listed in the wnpp but I could find it which apt-cache
   search silo.
  You can only remove this if you want sparc to be unbootable, which I
  hope is not your intention.

 Um, I was going to adopt this until I saw:

 silo (0.9.9-1) unstable; urgency=low

   * New upstream
   * Took over silo's packaging

  -- Erick Kinnee [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Mon,  4 Sep 2000 10:54:23 -0500

 Which I assumed meant Erick had done so? 

Well, if this is really true, then he should have closed the WNPP bug
against silo a long time ago already. 

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Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in

2000-12-26 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-12-25 Matt Zimmerman wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 01:29:44PM +, Marc Haber wrote:

  On Sat, 23 Dec 2000 15:41:54 -0500, Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  However, I would say that if the program dies so frequently that it needs a
  wrapper like this, it should probably be fixed.
  
  console-log uses less syslog which dies every time the user types Q.
  And it needs to die if the log has been rotated.

 It would be nice if less included a feature to close and reopen the current
 file.  Then this would not be necessary.

Well, this is a feature that tail on FreeBSD has. If you start it with
-F, it will tail you the current file like our tail -f. But if know the
logfile will be rotated, it will notice this and reopen the new current
one and tail this one. This is a feature that I really miss in GNU tail.

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List of packages that could be dropped

2000-12-26 Thread Christian Kurz

Hi, 

we currently have a really huge list of packages that are orphaned and
so I looked at them to see if we can drop some of them. Here are some
suggestion and my comments. Any comment from you is appreciated:

|ppd-gs (1 year and 357 days old)

Do we really need this package still for users of alladin ghostscript or
is it not needed anymore?

|tcp4u (1 year and 81 days old) [Package libtcp4u3]

Is this package still useful or can we drop it? 

|cthugha (1 year and 31 days old)

Is this package really used by someone or useful for anything? The
description is not very helpful in finding this out.

|silo (195 days old)

Has this package been removed from unstable and if yes, why? It's
currently still listed in the wnpp but I could find it which apt-cache
search silo.

|dip (1 year and 81 days old)

Fabrizio, has this package really been taken over? If yes, could you
please close the wnpp-bug for it? Thanks.

|libmikmod (214 days old)

Is any architecture still using libmikmod1 or could we drop this part of
the libmikmod package?

|rel (1 year and 41 days old)

Is this package used by anyone or can we just drop it?

|mhash (235 days old)

Has this package been dropped from unstable? If yes, can we close the
wnpp-bug about it?

|guavac (2 years and 53 days old)

Can we please drop this package from our distribution as even upstream
orphaned this package?

|malaga (210 days old)

Has this package been dropped? If yes, why and could be please close
then the bug about it against wnpp?

|admesh (349 days old)

Has this package any good purpose or could it be dropped?

|dpkg-scriptlib -- dpkg-perl and dpkg-python  (142 days old)

Is any package using functions of dpkg-perl or dpkg-python? If yes, I
think someone should take care of this packages and the bugs that are in
them. If not, could we move this packages from our distribution to
experimental until they are fixed and a new maintainer for them has been
found?

|fnlib (104 days old)

Has this package been removed from our distribution? is enlightenment
not using it anymore? Or has it just be renamed? If the first is true,
can we close the wnpp bug for it or if the last is true, can then
someone please rename the bug in wnpp for it?

|xipmsg (74 days old)

Is this piece of software really used this days, where we have,
ICQ,AIM,Jabber and other instant messenger tools?

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Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in

2000-12-26 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-12-26 Andreas Fuchs wrote:
 Today, Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Well, this is a feature that tail on FreeBSD has. If you start it with
  -F, it will tail you the current file like our tail -f. But if know the
  logfile will be rotated, it will notice this and reopen the new current
  one and tail this one. This is a feature that I really miss in GNU tail.

 Uh, is this what you mean?

 $ echo bar  /tmp/foo
 $ tail -f /tmp/foo  (sleep 1; echo baz  /tmp/foo;
   sleep 1; echo qux  /tmp/foo)
 bar[time passes]
 baz[time passes]
 == /tmp/foo: file truncated ==

No, because you truncate the file here and that shouldn't happen. 

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Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in

2000-12-26 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-12-26 Ethan Benson wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:26:10PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote:
  
  Well, this is a feature that tail on FreeBSD has. If you start it with
  -F, it will tail you the current file like our tail -f. But if know the
  logfile will be rotated, it will notice this and reopen the new current
  one and tail this one. This is a feature that I really miss in GNU tail.

 in fact GNU tail does have this feature, its just done a bit
 differently:

 tail --follow=name --retry /var/log/messages

 ive been using this for ages without any problems, works quite nicely
 with log rotation, tail just outputs a message saying the file has
 been replaced, and follows the new one.

Well, as I'm a bit lazy in typing always this long option names, I just
wrote a patch to support -F and --follow-forever that do the same. As
the patch is very small, I will just attach it to this mail. (Yes, I
will seperately send it to the BTS.)

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Binary files textutils-2.0.old/src/.tail.c.swp and 
textutils-2.0/src/.tail.c.swp differ
diff -uNr textutils-2.0.old/src/tail.c textutils-2.0/src/tail.c
--- textutils-2.0.old/src/tail.cThu Aug  5 16:38:02 1999
+++ textutils-2.0/src/tail.cTue Dec 26 17:33:25 2000
@@ -187,6 +187,7 @@
   {allow-missing, no_argument, NULL, CHAR_MAX + 1},
   {bytes, required_argument, NULL, 'c'},
   {follow, optional_argument, NULL, 'f'},
+  {follow-forever, optional_argument, NULL, 'F'},
   {lines, required_argument, NULL, 'n'},
   {max-unchanged-stats, required_argument, NULL, CHAR_MAX + 2},
   {max-consecutive-size-changes, required_argument, NULL, CHAR_MAX + 3},
@@ -1311,7 +1312,7 @@
   count_lines = 1;
   forever = from_start = print_headers = 0;
 
-  while ((c = getopt_long (argc, argv, c:n:f::qs:v, long_options, NULL))
+  while ((c = getopt_long (argc, argv, c:n:f:F::qs:v, long_options, NULL))
 != -1)
 {
   switch (c)
@@ -1357,6 +1358,11 @@
follow_mode = XARGMATCH (--follow, optarg,
 follow_mode_string, follow_mode_map);
  break;
+   
+   case 'F':
+ forever = 1;
+ follow_mode = Follow_name;
+ reopen_inaccessible_files =1;
 
case CHAR_MAX + 1:
  reopen_inaccessible_files = 1;


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Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in

2000-12-26 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-12-26 Matt Zimmerman wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:26:10PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote:

  On 00-12-25 Matt Zimmerman wrote:
   It would be nice if less included a feature to close and reopen the 
   current
   file.  Then this would not be necessary.
  
  Well, this is a feature that tail on FreeBSD has. If you start it with
  -F, it will tail you the current file like our tail -f. But if know the
  logfile will be rotated, it will notice this and reopen the new current
  one and tail this one. This is a feature that I really miss in GNU tail.

 It sounds pretty easy to implement; just stat() and compare the inode number.
 Is this how the FreeBSD tail does it?  Why not write a patch for GNU tail?

I'm not sure how FreeBSD tail handle this exactly, as I didn't look at
it's code till now. But after having read the Mail from Ethan I think
about patching tail to have an option -F which combines --follow=name
and --retry. :) 

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Re: Scsh (Was: Re: My orphaned packages.)

2000-09-12 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-09-12 Daniel Kobras wrote:
 On 11 Sep 2000, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:

   Daniel == Daniel Kobras [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  Daniel On 10 Sep 2000, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
   `scsh' ought to be taken over by someone who actually uses it.  I've
   not even looked at it in over a year.
  
  Daniel If nobody objects I'd like to do this together with Martin
  Daniel Gasbichler who wrote a fair part of scsh 0.6. But me
  Daniel having just applied for Debian maintainership this will
  Daniel take some time...
  
   I also have an adoption offer from Georg Bauer (Cc'd), who I
   responded to on the attached message, telling him that if he contacts
   the new maintainer team and has a working `scsh' package, he can have
   it.
  
   Since you are teaming with Martin Gasbichler, and since Martin is a
   co-author of Scsh, I'd say that puts you two in as most qualified to
   handle the package.  (Daniel?  Please forward this mail to Martin.)
  
   Perhaps the three of you could team?  What do you all think?

 Sounds good to me. Martin is on vacation for a couple of days but I'm sure
 we can work out a scheme everyone's confident with as soon as he's
 back. The big problem IMHO however being that neither of us is registered
 as a developer so far. I'd be happy to work on debs for a recent version
 of scsh but we'd really need some maintainer to adopt the package until my
 appliance gets through.

You don't need a package maintainer to adopt the package for getting a
new package uploaded. A sponsor for you and Martin would be enough to
upload the package to the archive. Do you already are in the NM-Queue
(nm.debian.org)?

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Re: I propose gazillion packages (LONG)

2000-08-17 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-08-17 Juhapekka Tolvanen wrote:

 AIDE:

 http://www.cs.tut.fi/~rammer/aide.html

|[EMAIL PROTECTED] apt-cache show aide 
|Package: aide
|Version: 0.7-6
|[...]
|Maintainer: Mike Markley [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 boxes:

 http://www6.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/~tsjensen/boxes/

|[EMAIL PROTECTED] apt-cache show boxes
|Package: boxes
|Version: 1.0.1-1
|[...]
|Maintainer: KELEMEN Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 QuickList:

 http://www.quicklist.org/

|[EMAIL PROTECTED] apt-cache show quicklist
|Package: quicklist
|Version: 0.8.6-2
|[...]
|Maintainer: Bradley Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Artistic Style:
  
 http://astyle.sourceforge.net/

|[EMAIL PROTECTED] apt-cache show astyle
|Package: astyle
|Version: 1.11.6-1
|[...]
|Maintainer: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 deroff:

 http://www.moria.de/~michael/deroff/

|[EMAIL PROTECTED] apt-cache show deroff
|Package: deroff
|Version: 1.1-2
|[...]
|Maintainer: David Frey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 mp3_check:

 http://mp3check.sourceforge.net/

|[EMAIL PROTECTED] apt-cache show mp3check
|Package: mp3check
|Version: 1.97-1
|[...]
|Maintainer: Norbert Tretkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]

So, may I suggest that in the future you first check which software is
already packaged for debian?

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Re: ITP John the ripper

2000-04-02 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-03-26 Matt Zimmerman wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 25, 2000 at 03:39:24PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote:

  as jsut discussed on debian-devel, I would like to package John the
  Ripper. If someone already has done or is working on it, please mail me,
  then I will stop packing it. Otherwise I will try to upload this package
  till friday next week to woody.

 I briefly looked into packaging this a while ago, and I couldn't find a 
 license
 in the distribution.  Are you aware of a license for this program, or have you
 contacted the upstream author?

After talking with the upstream author, this program has now been
packaged for debian is available on master in incoming.

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Re: ITP John the ripper

2000-03-26 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-03-26 Josip Rodin wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 11:15:20AM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
   as jsut discussed on debian-devel, I would like to package John the
   Ripper. If someone already has done or is working on it, please mail me,
   then I will stop packing it. Otherwise I will try to upload this package
   till friday next week to woody.
  
  I briefly looked into packaging this a while ago, and I couldn't find a 
  license
  in the distribution.  Are you aware of a license for this program, or have 
  you
  contacted the upstream author?

 A friend of mine asked Solar Designer, and he said it's GPL or something...

Well, I asked him to add a note to the package which describes the
license of the package. Hopefully I can convince him to do so, so that I
or somebody else are able to package it.

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ITP John the ripper

2000-03-25 Thread Christian Kurz
Hi,

as jsut discussed on debian-devel, I would like to package John the
Ripper. If someone already has done or is working on it, please mail me,
then I will stop packing it. Otherwise I will try to upload this package
till friday next week to woody.

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Re: ITO penguineyes and bvi

1999-09-24 Thread Christian Kurz
On 99-09-23 Stijn de Bekker wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 21 1999, Christian Kurz wrote:
  I intent to orphan bvi and penguineyes. I will orphan bvi, because I
  don't use it much anymore and penugineyes will get orphaned, because I
  gave gnome I try, but I don't like it much and so I want to remove it,
  which makes packaging penguineyes a bit hard. If somebody wants to take
  one of the packages over, feel free to do so.

 I'll take over the bvi package. Remco van de Meent has already offered
 to sponsor as I'm no official maintainer yet.

Okay, it's yours. 

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ITO penguineyes and bvi

1999-09-21 Thread Christian Kurz
Hi,

I intent to orphan bvi and penguineyes. I will orphan bvi, because I
don't use it much anymore and penugineyes will get orphaned, because I
gave gnome I try, but I don't like it much and so I want to remove it,
which makes packaging penguineyes a bit hard. If somebody wants to take
one of the packages over, feel free to do so.

Ciao
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Request for Packaging

1999-05-24 Thread Christian Kurz
Hi,

here are some collected request for programms, which should IMHO be
packaged for Debian:


8-8 CUT HERE 8-8
What's bjorb?

Overview

   Bjorb is secure TCP relay software. Bjorb provides to you secure
   end-to-end connection over insecure network such as Internet.

Highlights

 * Bjorb relays all 'static port' based TCP communications with SSL 
protocol.
   Such as SMTP, POP3, NNTP, HTTP, TELNET.
   Not FTP.
 * Bjorb can make a usual telnet server behave like SSL telnet.

License

Bjorb itself is free software.

   You can use, modify, and redistribute for non-commerical and
   commerical purpose in most case. Read COPYRIGHT file for more
   details.

Bjorb uses SSLeay library.

8-8 CUT HERE 8-8
PGP Moose / by Greg Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The aim of this software is to monitor the news
postings of moderators of USENET newsgroups, and to
automatically cancel forged messages purporting to
be approved.  This can be extended to the approvals
of individual users to automatically cancel messages
that appear without having been authorised by the
user. This has (obviously) been prompted by the
recent spammings and other events.

This software and protocol is designed around
cryptographic signatures.  The protocol is designed
to allow the use of different signature techniques.
This implemention assumes the use of PGP signatures,
but can be easily modified to use others, such as
the Digital Signature Standard.  PGP was chosen for
its widespread availability around the world.

PGP, the crux of the cryptographic software, was
written by Phil Zimmermann [EMAIL PROTECTED], who
otherwise has nothing to do with this. The
cryptographic framework was written by Greg Rose
[EMAIL PROTECTED], as were the INN news system hooks.

http://people.qualcomm.com/ggr/PGPMoose.tar.Z
ftp://ftp.dinoex.sub.de/pub/approved/PGPMoose.tar.Z
8-8 CUT HERE 8-8
Dejasearch

A frontend to DejaNews (http://www.dejanews.com/), the popular Usenet
archive and search engine. It will submit a search for you to
DejaNews, then retrieve and consolidate all search results into one
single HTML file, sorted in newsgroup, subject and date (reverse)
order.

http://homemade.hypermart.net/dejasearch/dejasearch12.tar.gz
http://homemade.virtualave.net/dejasearch/dejasearch12.tar.gz
8-8 CUT HERE 8-8
mkmf makefile editor (revision 4.11)
ftp://ftp.uni-koeln.de/util/mkmf.tar.gz
8-8 CUT HERE 8-8

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Re: request to kill nag messages

1999-05-20 Thread Christian Kurz
[DONT SEND ME A CC!]

Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 19 May 1999, Christian Kurz wrote:

  [You don't need to send me an extra Cc as I read the lists on which I
  write. Thanks!]
  
  Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Wed, 19 May 1999, Christian Kurz wrote:
  
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 03:32:20PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   I'm not the only one to be annoyed at the nag messages that are 
   sent out.
   Can the script please be disabled.  There are better ways to find 
   out bugs
   you have open.  Long-standing bugs are likely to be less 
   important than
   recent bugs too.
   
  
  I would rather see the old bugs closed.  An old bug is still a bug.
  
  Don't like the messages, help close the bugs.

 Wrong.  Brian White is no longer the release manager, so he has no 
 special
 privilege to send mails like this.

Oh, does somebody need a special privilege to tell us which general bugs
are too old and need to be resolved? I don't think so.
  
   No one needs to take on that job, as the BTS already reports all open bugs
   twice a week to every developer. 
  
  Are you sure? I don't know that this is done by the BTS and have never
  heard about this? 

 Here is a sample of the beggining of what I normally get on Tuesdays:

 -begin paste-
 Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 16:29:46 -0500
 From: Debian Bug Tracking System [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Unanswered problem reports by maintainer and package
 Resent-Date: 4 May 1999 21:30:06 -
 Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Resent-cc: recipient list not shown: ;

 The following problem reports have not yet been marked as `taken up' by a
 message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or or `forwarded' by a
 message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ---end paste--

 Note that this is a subscription list, so you must request placement on
 this automated report generator.

Hm, this looks for me like you use a cronjob to fetch your bugreports.
Or where is this described?

 On Friday the report is ordered differently, and can be grepped for your
 name to separate out your own bugs from all the rest.

Hm, sound interesting.

 You can also request limited reports on your own. Send the word help in
 the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will get a list
 of all the commands that the request server responds to. Among them are
 requests for indexes by package, or by maintainer. You can then take these
 indexes and request the actual bug report itself.

Oh so you need to set this up on your own? There's only one point which
I'm missing: How many maintainers use this? Is this used by nearly every
maintainer or only some? I think we need a mechanismen, which is
configurable, which automatically tells you after some time which bugs
are open and need to be closed. So you are automatically subsribed to
these messages, but you can stop it if you want.
 
   If this was simply a report to the list, once in a while, like the
   critical bugs that need to be fixed list, there would be no problem.
   Instead this mail is generated automatically and sent to every developer
   with an open bug report over a certain age.
  
  Well what is the problem with this? I don't see any offence in getting a
  message that says that I (the maintainer) has still open bug over a
  certain age. I think this is a good reminder for the maintainers as you

 The problem is that I can not request that the messages stop, like I can
 with this list, and the other BTS lists. Even aggressive, and angry
 requests have met with rejection. This is, by definition, unwanted spam.

So why don't we contact Brian and ask him about making this
configurable? Has anyone contacted him yet about this? If not, I will
write him a mail at the weekend.

  may forget to fix bugs. Take a look at the ppp-package and how many open
  bugs there have been. The maintainer hadn't fixed them and so I helped
  him. (Sorry Phil, but this is a good example and No, I don't want to
  praise me with this). Or have you taken a look at the list on
  http://master.debian.org/~ajt/bugsbyage.txt? Have you seen how many open
  old bugs we got? How do you think we get this fixed without reminding
  the developers of their open bugs?

 How do the nag messages to Phil help you know which of his bugs are in
 need of repair.

I meant that this messages are good for a maintainer who had so many
open bugs to see which bugs he need to fix and maybe ask others to help
him. It was not about me.

 Your idea that mainainers forget to fix a bug is simply FUD. Nobody
 forgets a bug, they either don't have the time to figure out what is
 wrong, or for what ever reason cannot put the manpower into solving the
 problem. Under these conditions a NMU is very reasonable. I never turn
 down such help

Re: request to kill nag messages

1999-05-20 Thread Christian Kurz
Christian Meder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 09:24:19PM +0200, Christian Kurz wrote:
  Well what is the problem with this? I don't see any offence in getting a
  message that says that I (the maintainer) has still open bug over a
  certain age. I think this is a good reminder for the maintainers as you
  may forget to fix bugs. Take a look at the ppp-package and how many open
  bugs there have been. The maintainer hadn't fixed them and so I helped
  him. (Sorry Phil, but this is a good example and No, I don't want to
  praise me with this). Or have you taken a look at the list on
  http://master.debian.org/~ajt/bugsbyage.txt? Have you seen how many open
  old bugs we got? How do you think we get this fixed without reminding
  the developers of their open bugs?

 I think you miss the point. Nobody's arguing that we shouldn't keep a
 public list of open old bugs. For interested developers it makes
 sense to do some qa after checking such a list.

ACK

 The point is that the diligent maintainer is well aware of his/her
 open old bug reports and usually has some valid reasons to leave the
 bug report open. 

Then why doesn't he place a message in the BTS saying why it isn't
possible to fix the bug? So that people lookin throught the BTS see, if
they can help to fix the bug or if this isn't possible?

 Example: I've got an open old bug report that flying
 (a X11 pool game) doesn't support 16/24 bit displays. The upstream

This would speak for making the mechanismen configurable. Would this be
a solution?

Cheers
   Christian
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Re: request to kill nag messages

1999-05-20 Thread Christian Kurz
Christian Meder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 11:48:25AM +0200, Christian Kurz wrote:
  Christian Meder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Example: I've got an open old bug report that flying
   (a X11 pool game) doesn't support 16/24 bit displays. The upstream
  
  This would speak for making the mechanismen configurable. Would this be
  a solution?

 Making which mechanism configurable ? The bug system ? The nag messages ?
 Could you expand what you are aiming at ?

I meant the nag-messages about which we are talking here. Would be a
solution to make it configurable if you want to get those or not? 

Cheers
   Christian
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Re: request to kill nag messages

1999-05-19 Thread Christian Kurz
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 03:32:20PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   I'm not the only one to be annoyed at the nag messages that are sent out.
   Can the script please be disabled.  There are better ways to find out bugs
   you have open.  Long-standing bugs are likely to be less important than
   recent bugs too.
   
  
  I would rather see the old bugs closed.  An old bug is still a bug.
  
  Don't like the messages, help close the bugs.

 Wrong.  Brian White is no longer the release manager, so he has no special
 privilege to send mails like this.

Oh, does somebody need a special privilege to tell us which general bugs
are too old and need to be resolved? I don't think so.

 This is no different from some helpful developer spamming people who,
 say, have had bugs open for over a year.  Such people have (rightly) come
 under fire in the past.

And what do you propose should be done with bugs that are so old? Still
let them stay open and look somewhere else? No, that isn't a solution.
The solution is to contact the developer and ask them about the bugs and
try to track the problem down and fix the bug. This has nothing do to
with spamming instead these are person, which are interested in
improving th quality of the distribution.

Cheers
   Christian
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Re: request to kill nag messages

1999-05-19 Thread Christian Kurz
[You don't need to send me an extra Cc as I read the lists on which I
write. Thanks!]

Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 19 May 1999, Christian Kurz wrote:

  Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 03:32:20PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I'm not the only one to be annoyed at the nag messages that are sent 
 out.
 Can the script please be disabled.  There are better ways to find out 
 bugs
 you have open.  Long-standing bugs are likely to be less important 
 than
 recent bugs too.
 

I would rather see the old bugs closed.  An old bug is still a bug.

Don't like the messages, help close the bugs.
  
   Wrong.  Brian White is no longer the release manager, so he has no special
   privilege to send mails like this.
  
  Oh, does somebody need a special privilege to tell us which general bugs
  are too old and need to be resolved? I don't think so.

 No one needs to take on that job, as the BTS already reports all open bugs
 twice a week to every developer. 

Are you sure? I don't know that this is done by the BTS and have never
heard about this? 

 If this was simply a report to the list, once in a while, like the
 critical bugs that need to be fixed list, there would be no problem.
 Instead this mail is generated automatically and sent to every developer
 with an open bug report over a certain age.

Well what is the problem with this? I don't see any offence in getting a
message that says that I (the maintainer) has still open bug over a
certain age. I think this is a good reminder for the maintainers as you
may forget to fix bugs. Take a look at the ppp-package and how many open
bugs there have been. The maintainer hadn't fixed them and so I helped
him. (Sorry Phil, but this is a good example and No, I don't want to
praise me with this). Or have you taken a look at the list on
http://master.debian.org/~ajt/bugsbyage.txt? Have you seen how many open
old bugs we got? How do you think we get this fixed without reminding
the developers of their open bugs?

   This is no different from some helpful developer spamming people who,
   say, have had bugs open for over a year.  Such people have (rightly) come
   under fire in the past.
  
  And what do you propose should be done with bugs that are so old? Still
  let them stay open and look somewhere else? No, that isn't a solution.
  The solution is to contact the developer and ask them about the bugs and
  try to track the problem down and fix the bug. This has nothing do to
  with spamming instead these are person, which are interested in
  improving th quality of the distribution.
  
 This is not a person asking a developer to fix a bug. This is an
 automated system that spits out messages with NO content of use to the
 developer, and adds nothing but bulk to the already functional system.

Where has the message no content? It tells you which bugs are very old
and haven't been fixed, so you can take a look at them and fix them. And
the point that this is an automated system doing this is IMHO no cause
to treat them like spam. It's has been automated as a normal person
can't to this on her own.

 This _is_ spam, and nothing more. Please be aware that any message with
 the word Nag in the subject is always deleted and never read when sent
 to me, so if you really want to contact me don't use that word ;-)

Well, that's you problem, but better would be a kill on the From-Line
instead of the Subject.

 You aren't really suggesting that any well meaning person is correct to
 set up an automated system for notifying developers about place your
 important issue here, then you should not complain when some dodo sends
 you, and the list, critical information about how to get rich quick. He is
 only trying to be informative...

Well, I don't like spam as it has nothing to do with my work or my
hobby. But these messages are there for informing me, that I have open
bugs and that I need to fix them. So it's a reminder for me as
developer. Or how should we remind developer of their old bugs? Go by
hand through the BTS and sort them out? Are you sure that every
developer knows which open bugs he has and how old they are? I'm not and
since the messages are not send every day or every week or every month
but instead after a certain amount of time, more than 4 months, I don't
treat them like spam.

Cheers
   Christian
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Re: request to kill nag messages

1999-05-19 Thread Christian Kurz
Brian Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 04:45:11PM +0200, Christian Kurz wrote:
  And what do you propose should be done with bugs that are so old? Still
  let them stay open and look somewhere else? No, that isn't a solution.
  The solution is to contact the developer and ask them about the bugs and
  try to track the problem down and fix the bug. This has nothing do to
  with spamming instead these are person, which are interested in
  improving th quality of the distribution.

 Considering the X bug list, I'm sure branden got a quite large mailing
 from 'Nag' about old bugs - yet from what I understand, he can't
 possibly go through that list until some modifications are done to the
 BTS.

Hm, in the list from NAG are the URLs which lead to the page with the
bugreport on it. So what modifications need to be done for making these
messages usable?

 'Nag' also goes to developers personally, not only to -devel.

So where's the problem with getting an reminder about your old open
bugs, which you need to fix? 

Cheers
   Christian
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Re: request to kill nag messages

1999-05-19 Thread Christian Kurz
Brian Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 09:28:33PM +0200, Christian Kurz wrote:
  So where's the problem with getting an reminder about your old open
  bugs, which you need to fix? 
 I don't NEED a reminder about my bugs. There should be an option to TURN THE 
 BLOODY
 THING OFF.

OK, this would be a good point. Making it configurable if you want to
get those messages or not. But in general I don't think that should be
turned off.

Cheers
   Christian
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Re: request to kill nag messages

1999-05-18 Thread Christian Kurz
Adrian Bridgett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm not the only one to be annoyed at the nag messages that are sent out.
 Can the script please be disabled.  There are better ways to find out bugs
 you have open.  Long-standing bugs are likely to be less important than
 recent bugs too.

No, these bugs are also important and need to be resolved as every bug.
The decision which bugs are important does not depend on the age. And
the nag-messages to this list has come, as the bugs are general bugs and
there's no developer for them. Every developer can fix those bugs and so
it's a good to sent this message to the list.

Cheers
   Christian
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