Mozilla PSM (https support)

2000-09-13 Thread Franklin Belew
Since the RSA code was put in the public domain, the
Personal Security Manager (aka PSM) that allows SSL/https connections
has become opensource under the same license as mozilla (MPL/GPL)

Facts:
- License is DFSG Free (MPL/GPL)
- Uses OpenSSL for encryption (BSD Style License(s))
- Soure is in upstream mozilla cvs tree, and will (if not already) be 
  be in upstream release tarballs
- PSM Requires mozilla libraries to build

Questions:
- Can the PSM go in Main?
- If Not in main, how do I build this so that mozilla(noncrypto parts) 
  goes in main, while mozilla-psm goes to non-us/main with minimum amount
  of manual work? (when answering this, keep the autobuilders in mind)
- Is there anything I've forgotten?


Frank aka Myth


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Re: Mozilla PSM (https support)

2000-09-13 Thread Franklin Belew
I have come to new information...
The PSM is completely self-contained in the mozilla source tree, so
all my previous problems are null and void

Frank aka Myth


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Re: Help on Debian Project - Need Me?

2000-09-03 Thread Franklin Belew
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 11:53:41PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
 Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Well, IMO, anything that goes on the Debian website better be
  created by free software. No offense, but if I start seeing Made
  with Macromedia or Designed with Photoshop on the website, there
  will be hell to pay :)
 
 It seems very strict to require that everything on the website have
 been created with free software.  Of course, their contributions
 shouldn't require proprietary software to *use*.
 
If debian isn't even good enough to make our own web pages, how is that
going to look in the public eye?

'Yeah, our distribution kicks ass but our web pages require Windows2k
 and X proprietary software programs to produce'

Get a grip

Frank aka Myth


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Re: M17 with session management?

2000-08-18 Thread Franklin Belew
On Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 09:21:58PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 since mozilla is quite stable now, (i used it extensively now, indeed
 it's my only browser using, and i can use all the habits when i'm using
 IE with mozilla, like open 10 to 20 broswer windows for some lota javascript
 popup sites, and big pics (don't get me wrong! ;)
 
 so is it possible to enable session-management for mozilla compiled
 for debian?
 
pedant This should be filed as a wishlist bug /pedant

Mozilla currently does not have this feature, please file a bug on their system
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/
Please check to see if this bug exists before you file it of course


Thank you, have a nice day
Frank aka Myth



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ITA: Mozilla

2000-08-18 Thread Franklin Belew
As many already know, I've been building mozilla debs and placing them
on master for general consumption. I have been informed by the previous
maintainer that he would like to get rid of it.

I am hereby placing an official adoption on mozilla by his request.

I will have a new mozilla package uploaded that will fix many hidden bugs
by the end of the weekend at the latest.

Frank aka Myth (irc)



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Re: I propose gazillion packages (LONG)

2000-08-17 Thread Franklin Belew
 XMLTerm
 
 http://xmlterm.com/
 
 XMLterm - A graphical command line interface. If you don't understand, check
 out those screenshots. 
 
This is merely a compoenent in mozilla, I believe the debs I created 
include it... 
http://master.debian.org/~frb/mozilla

Frank aka Myth


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Not to get off on a rant here.....

2000-03-30 Thread Franklin Belew
Hi, you may know me from such irc channels as #debian and #debian-devel
as Myth.


If you have a short temper, don't read this.
If you are more advocate about freedom at any cost than RMS, don't read this.
If you just ggot done reading the RBL/DUL/ORBS thread, please, don't
take your anger out on me.

This is just my opinions on what I've seen in the debian project in the last
2+ years that I've been using it.

People seem to be too caught up in other people's freedom to help us 
create the best distro with the least problems. Example:
/usr/doc - /usr/share/doc transition voted to be held because potato was
supposed to freeze back in november. 
Freeze got delayed, and 4+ months later, no one has taken this transition 
seriously. I am to assume that all debian developers are mature individuals
who understand the concept of deadlines, yet giving this much slack only 
causes the releases to be later and later.

New-maintainer has been closed waaay too long. I first applied back in May 
of last year, only to find that they were not acepting new apps. Then in 
september I find that my app was lost anyway. I have been told get a 
sponsor and do other things; but after 6+ months of getting a sponsor 
and doing other things, it is still frustrating that I (and many others 
like me) can't officially be part of the debian crew. Yes, I know it is a 
lot of work to process the applications, but those of us who weren't/aren't
maintainers had no information about why it was close, when it would open, 
or if [EMAIL PROTECTED] was just sent to /dev/null. Now that a 
new process has been initiated, this problem will never hopefully occur
again. 


These may sound like the disgruntled ramblings of a frustrated wannabe 
developer, but I hope you can see where I am coming from.


Now, before you flame me, or tell me things I have read 100 times on this
list in the last year and a half I've been reading it, please for all of 
our sakes, take a deep breath, step back, think about the situation, and 
inform us all of where I am mistaken in a mature manner.

Thank you, 
This ends your normal broadcast day.


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Re: xterm and gnome-terminal have diferent defaults? [was: Bug#60753: mutt: /etc/Muttrc should not use colors]

2000-03-29 Thread Franklin Belew
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 02:57:11AM +0100, Pedro Guerreiro wrote:
  On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 04:46:04AM -0300, Nicol?s Lichtmaier wrote:
 
Using the Space and the Backspace keys for up and down movement is 
   absurd,
   it's even stupid. Backspace is back-space. Those keybindings where thought
   for keyboards without arrows, and those keyboards no longer exists...
 
 Not trying the revive this question, but I do have one question:
 
 If I use mutt from inside xterm, the default key for previous-line is
 Backspace, and Del doesn't do nothing, but if I use it from inside
 gnome-terminal, it works the other way around, ie, Backspace doesn't do
 nothing and Del goes to previous-line.
 
 I know the problem is with gnome-terminal, so the question is how do I
 change the default binding of DEL in gnome-terminal? I've browse through
 /usr/share/doc/gnome-terminal, but that's a dead end :-(
 
 Thanks.
 pedro
 

This is actually a bug in libzvt2, I have submitted a patch to libzvt2 to 
comply with debian xterm specs. Hopefully the maintainer will apply this 
and upload to potato soon


Frank aka Myth



Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate funct

1999-09-27 Thread Franklin Belew
On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 04:44:10PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote:
  a) I would not test a new daemon on a working machine, I would use a 
  separate
 
 So?
 
  b) if you know what you are doing, compile the packages by hand, fix their
  install scripts, and remove the conflicts.  You are trying to circumvent the
  norm.
 
 If I wanted to compile them by hand, why would I even bother with the
 Debian packaging system?
 
  Debian is operating on making the easy case easy.  90+% of our users want to
  just install a package and go.
 
 Perhaps we would have more users if we didn't maintain such a mentality.
 90+% of our users probably don't run production servers.  Is there some
 reason you don't want to cater to 100% of our users if possible?
 
Example: 
I run gnome, I keep the debian packages installed in the normal location
I compile cvs every once in awhile into /usr/local/gnome
I have the knowlege to do this, and anyone who plans on running something 
unstable, or outside the norm should also have the knowlege to do this.

Now I haven't looked into it much, but debconf may be able to help.
If it is as powerful as it looks, you could put a question on some daemons 
asking if you will be running more than one instance, and if so configure 
accordingly. I will personally never do this on a production machine, but if 
you wish to research it further, I suggest you research debconf

Frank aka Myth

PS: I know my lines are longer than 76 characters, fix your own pager/viewers 
wordwrap

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Re: Steve Haslam and Gnome in potato

1999-09-16 Thread Franklin Belew
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 02:02:06PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
 Hi everybody,
 
 does anybody know if Steve Haslam is still with us (is he in holidays ?) ?
 Because he's the maintainer of gnome-core and gnome-libs but source those
 packages are not very well maintained. There are some RCB and many,
 many bugs. I've mailed him last week but got no answer.
 (check http://master.debian.org/~hertzog/qa/report-byscore.html
  to see the number of bugs)
 
 I'd like that someone package a new upstream version of
 both gnome-core and gnome-libs and check which bugs
 have been corrected. Each upstream bug should be forwarded in the Gnome BTS
 if the bug is still present in the new version. If the bug is debian-only
 then try to correct it. :)
 
 It's time to do it right now, before Gnome 1.0.50 so that all bugs will be
 corrected in Gnome 1.0.50 that will come soon (one or two weeks probably).
 
 If nobody is willing to do it, I'll do it myself.
 
I'm not an official maintainer, but I have compiled gnome quite a bit, and 
have looked at the packages. I'd be happy to help test and configure 
new packages for 1.0.50.

PS: if you want to put the debian/* in CVS, I can do that as well.


Frank aka frb


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