Re: An help to create an debian/rules

2003-09-05 Thread Gaetan Ryckeboer
Le Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 11:05:06AM -0300, Luiz Rafael Culik Guimaraes a écrit :
> 
> since i?m comming from rpm spec files, i?d like to know if the follow lines
> can be added to
> debian/rules and to what section i should add on the file, please note that
> macros like %{name} %{version} is already added to top of debian/rules


It looks like a shell script, not a Makfile, no ?

I presume you'd better add it to a build script invoked by or the
Makefile, or the debian/rules.


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Bug#207146: ITP: abul-bcd -- Abul-BCD is a system to maintain a library, mainly designed for french uses.

2003-08-25 Thread Gaetan RYCKEBOER
Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2003-08-24
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: abul-bcd
  Version : 1.2.0
  Upstream Author : ABUL-BCD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : 
http://www.abuledu.org/modules/vitrine/index.php/telecharger-abulbcd
* License : GPL
  Description : Abul-BCD is a system to maintain a library, mainly designed 
for french uses.

ABUL-BCD isi a french application, written in PHP, to provide tools to
maintain a library, school oriented.

Actually, it is only available in french.

AbulBCD est le module de gestion de la BCD d'AbulÉdu.

La partie publique de la BCD permet de trouver un ouvrage par thème
(selon kla classification Dewey), par auteur, ou par le biais du moteur
de recherche interne.

Une fois trouvé, vous êtes en mesure d'emprunter l'ouvrage -- si votre
compte vous le permet -- ou de le réserver s'il n'est pas disponible.

La partie privée d'abul-bcd permet de gérer la base documentaire, les
utilisateurs, et d'importer nue base de documents à partir d'un fichier
DBF (DBase).

Démonstration en ligne: http://bcd.abuledu.org

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Re: #206298 spip: prerm script blindly removes directories

2003-08-20 Thread Gaetan Ryckeboer
Le Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 11:34:40AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins a écrit :
> > Mmm... yes and no. Some of them could be. But a user may upload files
> > without using them in the application.  So, the files are available,
> > but unused, and unreferenced.
> 
> That would appear to be a deficiency of the spip app and one that should
> probably be brought to the upstream developers attention.  The
> application should probably log all uploads.
Not necessary. Web administrators may upload files via FTP, andspip
users  never use them onto spip ? If so, the files will stay in place in
upload, instead of beeing integrated onto the spip tree at the right
place, and being logged in the sql database.

> > Of course, I understand. But I wonder they won't upload personal files
> > for another use than spip here...
> This falls into something of a grey area.  Can the data concievably be
> of value ot the user without spip?  If so, then it is probably user data
> and should not be removed without confirmation from the user (debconf
> prompt that defaults to no?)
You're right. I'll do such a dialog.

> > True. But due to the implemntation of the application, which is
> > written in php, datas are stored on the program dir. There is no real
> > separation between datas and functions.
> > 
> > And if i symlink some datas (for apache access AND direct file handler
> > access), i'll will setup another alarm... and it won't be accepted.
> 
> So, use Alias directives to relocate the directories that need changing
> data to /var/lib.  There is no need to use symlinks to accomplish this.
Yes it needs. I've still moves documentation to usr/share/doc, instead
of spip/ecrire/doc, but it is rather different with the cache and other
application managed files.

You may access the php files via apache, but php files may access to
other php file, or static file. For instance, to modify the
configuration, or read the cache.

The cache management will be patched to go to /var/cache, but I cannot
do more without symlinks... The application won't be changed to handle
FHS correctly without complete rewriting.

Just imagine that spip is a set of application datas for apache/php,
but is an complete application, with datas, procedures, and cache -- the
reason of the packaging.

> As a matter of fact, your current apache include enables the following
> of symlinks, which it doesn't need and probably shouldn't. I can provide
> examples of this if you need.
I accept. Please send me examples in private, if you found a way to
move php files accessing each other (via "include") in another directory, 
without patching the application.
 
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Re: #206298 spip: prerm script blindly removes directories

2003-08-20 Thread Gaetan Ryckeboer
Le Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:26:14AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins a écrit :
> > All right. I understand the problem. But the directories removed by
> > the postrm/purge are normaly only used :
> > - by user, to upload datas related to his spip installation,
> Is this uploaded data recorded anywhere?  In the MySQL database perhaps?
> If so, the file names can be retrieved from there for removal on purge.
Mmm... yes and no. Some of them could be. But a user may upload files
without using them in the application.
So, the files are available, but unused, and unreferenced.

> Additionally, you may upset users by simply deleting their uploaded
> files on purge.  Some may see this as deletion of user data, which
> should not be done.
Of course, I understand. But I wonder they won't upload personal files
for another use than spip here...

> > - by spip himself, to store cache informations,
> Are the file names predictable in any way?  If so, you can look for
> files fitting the pattern.
True.

> > - by spip himself, for log or backups.
> The file names of the logs or backups should be predictable, right?
True.

> As someone else has already pointed out, /usr/share should be capable of
> being made read-only.  Any runtime changing data for an application
True. But due to the implemntation of the application, which is written
in php, datas are stored on the program dir. There is no real separation
between datas and functions.

And if i symlink some datas (for apache access AND direct file handler
access), i'll will setup another alarm... and it won't be accepted.

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#206298 spip: prerm script blindly removes directories

2003-08-20 Thread Gaetan Ryckeboer
> Package: spip
> Version: 1.6.0-2
> Severity: normal
> 
> The prerm script blindly deletes the following directories and all
> subdirectories:
> 
>/var/cache/spip
>/usr/share/spip/ecrire/upload
>/usr/share/spip/ecrire/data
> 
> There is no guarantee that the files in these directories belong only to
> this package.  While it is quite likely that they will, it can not be
> guaranteed and care should be taken on package removal to not remove any
> files that are not owned solely by the package.

All right. I understand the problem. But the directories removed by the
postrm/purge are normaly only used :
- by user, to upload datas related to his spip installation,
- by spip himself, to store cache informations,
- by spip himself, for log or backups.

So, I cannot have any informations on who and why there are files in
tese directories. I just cannot imagine why people wuold store files not
related to spip here.

(notice that i only delete these files on a purge operation).

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Bug#204577: ITP: spip-eva -- EVA is a french template of spip site, mainly designed for school and education.

2003-08-08 Thread Gaetan RYCKEBOER
Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2003-08-08
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: spip-eva
  Version : 1.0.0
  Upstream Author : Sylvain MICHEL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://spip-edu.edres74.net/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=22
* License : GPL
  Description : EVA is a french template of spip site, mainly designed for 
school and education.

 EVA is french, for for users speaking french.
 .
 EVA est français, pour des utilisateurs parlant le français.
 C'est principalement un modèle de squelettes pour SPIP, mais 
 également une base de données, contenant quelques petits plus :
 - Une rubrique de personnalisation du site, permettant à l'administrateur
   de rajouter ou modifier quelques parties du site;
 - Une rubrique d'aide aux rédacteurs orientée éducation;
 - 3 modes d'affichage différents pour les articles;
 - Un filtre pour les Simleys, remplaçant tout les smileys écrit en texte
   par l'image corespondante, très apprécié pour les forums.
 
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Bug#200341: ITP: spip -- User Friendly but powerful Content Managment System build in php

2003-07-07 Thread Gaetan RYCKEBOER
Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-07
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: spip
  Version : 1.6.0
  Upstream Author : Gaétan RYCKEBOER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.spip.org/
* License : GPL
  Description : User Friendly but powerful Content Managment System build 
in php

 SPIP is an open-source, free publication system on the Internet, mainly
 targetted at individuals, informal groups and non-profit organizations.
 SPIP allows contributive writing and managing of websites having a
 magazine-like structure (i.e. articles and short stories contained in nested
 sections), while not needing any HTML skills (except for defining the layout
 templates).
 .
 There are two kind of registered users : writers (who can submit
 articles and short stories, and comment pending submissions) and 
 administrators (who validate submissions, manage the site structure 
 and configuration...). Every task, including installation,
 is done through a Web-based, user-friendly interface ; only the writing
 of templates needs some technical learning. Writers can use convenient
 typographic and presentation shortcuts in their texts so as to make
 them ready to publish without any particular computer skills. The public 
 part of the site as well as the back-office include a forum system to add
 comments to articles and short stories. A two-level cache system in the 
 public site keeps the amount of resources used on the server very low. 
 A lightweight fulltext indexation and search engine is also integrated, 
 which incurs no noticeable slowdown when enabled.
 .
 Now for the annoying point : SPIP is in French. This doesn't prevent you 
 from building sites in other languages, as your public site is entirely 
 defined in the templates, but you still have to understand the documentation
 and the back-office interface

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ITP: spip

2003-07-07 Thread Gaetan Ryckeboer
 SPIP is an open-source, free publication system on the Internet, mainly
 targetted at individuals, informal groups and non-profit
 organizations. SPIP allows contributive writing and managing of websites 
 having a magazine-like structure (i.e. articles and short stories 
 contained in nested sections), while not needing any HTML skills 
 (except for defining the layout templates).
 
 It is distributed under the GPL.

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