Re: resolution of the tar -I issue

2001-01-10 Thread Jakob 'sparky' Kaivo
Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 06:08:23PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > sounds very good.
> 
> besides that -j ("junkzip"?) is NON-DESCRIPTIVE at all. -Z or -2 would be
> better... but thats an Upstream Issue I guess.

-Z is for piping through compress, and is (I believe) legacy
 compatible to a number of proprietary tars.

-[0-7][lmh] specify drive and density

I'm not sure exactly what that's for, but it does rule out -2. It
kinda sucks when you completely run out of single character
options. %-)




Re: fishing hooks

2000-09-13 Thread Jakob &#x27;sparky&#x27; Kaivo
Pang Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Dear sir or madame:
> we are a fishing goods trading company located in China mainland, our 
> products 
> include
> Banksticks, Rodrests, Boxes, Baskets, Seats, Floats & Float 
> accessories,etc,if 
> your want to import these products from China.please feel free to contact us.
>  
> Tel:0086-757-6239656
> Fax:0086-757-6336141
> E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> contact person:Pang Li

Dear Pang Li,

I was wondering what the license is for these fish hooks? Looking
through Debian's current package list, I see a few types of fish
(including sawfish, starfish, and bluefish), and a few hooks (mostly
authentication related), but no fish hooks. Given this, fish hooks
sound like a wonderful thing to add to Debian. Which is, of course,
why I inquire as to the license. Is it DFSG free, so it can into main,
or would fish hooks be forced to be in non-free? Also, what other
packages, if any, do fish hooks depend on? I see they are from China,
do fish hooks require Chinese fonts and/or a way to input Chinese? If
you could please answer these questions, I would be most appreciative.


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Re: "GNU/Linux" vs. "Linux"

2000-03-30 Thread Jakob &#x27;sparky&#x27; Kaivo
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Ok folks, why is Debian called "GNU/Linux" instead of simply "Linux"?
> Is that documented somewhere?  On a web-page, faq, other document?

IIRC, Debian was originally funded by the FSF, who wouldn't have it
any other way. Leavinger personal opinions aside in the hopes of not
starting a flame war, it makes sense especially given that there is
now a Debin GNU/Hurd distribution.

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Re: Turbo Vision non-free? (Was Re: Another packages wishlist)

2000-03-17 Thread Jakob &#x27;sparky&#x27; Kaivo
Damian M Gryski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Turbo Vision is non-free?
> 
>From http://community.borland.com/article/0,1410,17285,00.html
>(last modified Sept 01/99)
> 
> 
>Question:
>   Where can I find the public domain version of Turbo Vision?
> 
>Answer: 
>   It can be found at
>   ftp.inprise.com/pub/borlandcpp/devsupport/archive/turbovision/
> 
> 
>Is Borland's page wrong?  You should mail them and get an official
>answer. (Isn't a FAQ on their site official enough?)

It certainly isn't public domain. From one file (tview.cpp, inside
source.zip, inside tv.cpp):

/*
 *  Turbo Vision - Version 2.0
 *
 *  Copyright (c) 1994 by Borland International
 *  All Rights Reserved.
 *
 */

That's about as non-free as you can get.

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Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-17 Thread Jakob &#x27;sparky&#x27; Kaivo
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Joseph Carter wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 09:35:50AM -0700, Jakob 'sparky' Kaivo wrote:
> > > > Is this idea worth pursuing?
> > > 
> > > It's a neat idea, and I'd sure like to meet my fellow Debianers, but
> > > I doubt you'll get anybody to pay for it.
> > 
> > What about Corel? They're getting a /lot/ from Debian (basing their dist
> > on it), and while I'm sure they're contributing back to Debian, sponsoring
> > such an event would be a wonderful gesture on their part.
> 
> If it costs quite as much as it sounds like it's going to, it would
> probably be unreasonable to ask any one source to sponsor the whole thing.
> It might be interesting if they wanted to help sponsor it---and perhaps
> send a couple of their linux people to the thing as well..

Yes, perhaps it would be a bit unreasonable to ask Corel to send *every*
Debian developer somewhere and pay for room and board, etc., I would think
that they would be willing to foot at least part of the bill.

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Re: Steve Lamb in my killfile.

1999-09-16 Thread Jakob &#x27;sparky&#x27; Kaivo
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Nathan E Norman wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Jonathan Walther wrote:
> 
>  : Will someone please notify me when Steve Lamb becomes a reasonable person.
>  : As of 2 minutes ago, all mail from him is being sent to /dev/null by
>  : procmail.
> 
> Notification will be on the 11:00 news right after "Hell Freezes Over"

I think that happened in 1996 (q.v. The Eagles).

> and "Monkeys Fly Out of My Butt".

That only occurs in Oz, though. :)

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Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: Re: Deficiencies in Debian]

1999-09-16 Thread Jakob &#x27;sparky&#x27; Kaivo
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Raul Miller wrote:

> > Thursday, September 16, 1999, 10:50:57 AM, Raul wrote:
> > > Um..  you're just not lazy enough...
> > > # cd /usr/local/bin
> > > # ln -s /usr/bin/perl
> 
> On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 11:42:21AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > ln -s `which perl` /usr/local/bin/perl
> 
> You're confusing keystroke time with character count.

Hmm

cd /ulobln -s /ubperl
28 keystrokes

ln -s `which perl` /ulob
28 keystrokes

Of course, these assume a fairly clean /, /usr, and /usr/local. Someone
may want to double-check my counting. The answer of course, is that the
first is better, as you don't have to reach for the backtick. ;) BTW, I
know you can also complete the which command, but you first have to
type "whic" to get past matching "while", so just typing "h" is simpler.

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Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread Jakob &#x27;sparky&#x27; Kaivo
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Steve Greenland wrote:

> > Is this idea worth pursuing?
> 
> It's a neat idea, and I'd sure like to meet my fellow Debianers, but
> I doubt you'll get anybody to pay for it.

What about Corel? They're getting a /lot/ from Debian (basing their dist
on it), and while I'm sure they're contributing back to Debian, sponsoring
such an event would be a wonderful gesture on their part.

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Re: ITP: fakedate

1999-05-25 Thread Jakob &#x27;sparky&#x27; Kaivo
On 25 May 1999, Ben Pfaff wrote:

> Edward Betts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>[...regarding time-travel library...]
>   
>Or a clever wrapper for shareware style trial packages for linux
>that stop working after a certian time. I don't think there are any
>yet, but when lin= ux is popular there will be.
> 
> Presumably such shareware authors would be smart enough to statically
> link their binaries.

Isn't "smart shareware author" an oxymoron? ;)

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Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-30 Thread Jakob &#x27;sparky&#x27; Kaivo
On Sat, 30 Jan 1999, Alan Cox wrote:

> I'd like to propose that for now the FHS is changed to read
> 
> "The mail spool area location is undefined. It is guaranteed that both
>  /var/mail and /var/spool/mail point to this mail spool area if the system
>  has a mail spool. The preferred reference name is /var/mail.
> 
>  [Rationale: /var/mail is the only name available on some other modern Unix
>   platforms. /var/spool/mail is the older Linux tradition and needed for
>   compatibility]
> 
>  [Rationale2: The physical location of the mail spool is not relevant to
>   an application and is administrator policy. It is thus left open.]

Sounds a lot like what I said last week. :) And HPA before that. ;)

Seriously, I think that this solution is the one that the most people can
agree on, as it seems to make everyone happy (except for maybe the
~/Mailbox people, but they should be drawn and quartered ;). 

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Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-27 Thread Jakob &#x27;sparky&#x27; Kaivo
On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Alan Cox wrote:

> > The mail spool MUST be accessible through /var/mail AND /var/spool/mail,
> > and spool files MUST take the form /var/{spool/}mail/$LOGNAME. Either
> > /var/mail or /var/spool/mail, or both, MAY be symbolic links to another
> > directory. 
> 
> That sounds good to me

And several others, I beleive. Perhaps a vote is in order?

> > It is RECOMMENDED that /var/mail be the actual directory and
> > /var/spool/mail be the symbolic link. At some point use of /var/spool/mail
> > may become deprecated.
> 
> Thats policy where it isnt needed

Then it doesn't have to be included. I only put it in to placate all the
"other UNIXen use /var/mail, so /var/spool/mail shouldn't even exist" type
people.

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Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread Jakob &#x27;sparky&#x27; Kaivo
This is getting WAY out of hand here. How about this:

The mail spool MUST be accessible through /var/mail AND /var/spool/mail,
and spool files MUST take the form /var/{spool/}mail/$LOGNAME. Either
/var/mail or /var/spool/mail, or both, MAY be symbolic links to another
directory. It is RECOMMENDED that /var/mail be the actual directory and
/var/spool/mail be the symbolic link. At some point use of /var/spool/mail
may become deprecated.

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