Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-11 Thread Kees de Jong
Are we really comparing RAM here as if it were the 90's? How many people
here use Android? Today it needs 512 MB to function properly. In two years
that could be 1 or 2 GB and that's a mobile OS. How much RAM does your
browser use? My Chrome/Firefox easily uses 1 GB. My GNOME 3.10 desktop
(running Fedora now because I needed a modern GNOME version for Exchange
support for work) is using about 800 MB to 1200 MB. Do I really care? No,
because RAM is cheap and I have 8 GB. Do I need to buy more? No, because 8
GB is still more than enough.

If you can't run GNOME because you don't have the system specs to run a
modern desktop then you can select XFCE/LXDE in the installation menu. But
let's be fair, those people are a minority. And a default should fit the
needs of the majority. And since people easily have 4 GB of RAM or more
these days with the basic 3D acceleration (even a Raspberry Pi can run
GNOME 3) then I would say that logic chooses GNOME. Also because of a ton
of other reasons already mentioned e.g. systemd, documentation, dedicated
maintainers, accessibility, etc.


Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-10 Thread Kees de Jong
Why are we discussing CD/DVD sizes? Why not just use an USB
netinstall? It's then possible to download and install the stuff you
need, if you don't want to use a lot of bandwidth then choose no
desktop environment or XFCE/LXDE. But if you can spare some more time
then you can install GNOME/KDE. Seems like a good deal. And USB sticks
are cheaper (also easier to reuse) so I don't get the 'hurting
developing countries' argument.


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Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-08 Thread Kees de Jong
Also: 
http://oskuro.net/blog/freesoftware/gnome-as-default-jessie-desktop-2014-08-07-23-58


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Bug#663517: ITP: raintpl -- The easy and fast template engine for PHP. Rain.TPL makes application easier to create & enables designers/developers to work better together.

2012-03-11 Thread Kees de Jong
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Kees de Jong 

* Package name: raintpl
  Version : 2.7.2
  Upstream Author : Federico Ulfo 
The Rain Team 
* URL :  http://www.raintpl.com/
* License :  LGPL - 3+
  Programming Lang: PHP
  Description : The easy and fast template engine for PHP. Rain.TPL makes
application easier to create & enables designers/developers to work better
together.



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Bug#661262: ITP: raintpl -- RainTPL is an open source PHP template engine, it load precompiled PHP templates.

2012-02-25 Thread Kees de Jong
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Kees de Jong 

* Package name: raintpl
  Version : 2.7.1.2
  Upstream Author : Federico Ulfo 
The Rain Team 
* URL : http://www.raintpl.com/
* License : (LGPL-3+)
  Programming Lang: (PHP)
  Description : The easy and fast template engine for PHP. Rain.TPL makes
application easier to create & enables designers/developers to work better
together.



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Re: Bug#605090: Linux 3.2 in wheezy

2012-02-01 Thread Kees de Jong
Perhaps you should contact Julien Tinnes of http://kernelsec.cr0.org/ 
He has been too busy to work on the kernels lately but maybe he wants to
help.





On do, 2012-02-02 at 12:18 +1100, Russell Coker wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Feb 2012, dann frazier  wrote:
> > Whilte it may help the kernel team to not have to worry about problems
> > in the grsec flavor when preparing uploads, preventing delays for the
> > non-grsec images. But, that just pushes the coordination down a ways -
> > for stable updates we would need to add the grsec build into the
> > pipeline, and there'd be delays in grsec security updates that go in
> > via linux-2.6. Not nak'ing the idea, but it does extend some critical
> > paths.
> 
> The current approach of having a kernel patch package seems to work well.  It 
> removes the need for involvement of the kernel and security teams (presumably 
> security changes to the kernel will usually not require changes to the 
> grsecurity patch) and allows the users to easily build their own kernels.
> 
> If a user has a choice between using Spender's Debian package and a kernel-
> patch package to build their own kernel then I think that they should be able 
> to do whatever they want.
> 
> Spender suggested that people who want GRSecurity on Debian would be better 
> off using a .deb he provides and working on user-space hardening.
> 
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> 
> 


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