Re: Offering up the List Manager position
Hi everybody! After seven or eight months as Debian's mailing list manager, I'm ready for a change of pace. I'd like to offer up the position to any interested individual(s). I'm offering the position because I haven't been spending as many late nights at my day job's office, and I've become involved with making a local computer store into an ISP. Unfortunately, my free time is not spent in front of machines with decent bandwidth to be able to administer mailing lists, so I've been behind on a lot of the processing stuff. I've also felt as though my performance at my day job is slipping a bit (just my inability to properly manage and focus my time), so I'd like to curb that before it gets too far out of hand. If anyone is interested, please feel free to contact me and I've give a full rundown of what I see as being involved. I am the backup list manager and I will keep that. Whoever wants to take over the job you're not alone. Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / http://home.pages.de/~joey/ / VFS: no free i-nodes, contact Linus -- finlandia, Feb '94 / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problems compiling packages
Guy Maor writes: I'd suggest that all such packages only try to compile and package the libc5 packages if there is a libc5 installed. No, that's a bad idea. A package might silently build incorrectly because a developer didn't have libc5 or libc5-dev installed. Unfortunately hard-coding the architectures which do (or don't) have libc5 isn't very aesthetic. Does anybody have a better idea? That's what I wanted to prevent but I'd be happy with any other mechanism. Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / http://home.pages.de/~joey/ / VFS: no free i-nodes, contact Linus -- finlandia, Feb '94 / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Problems compiling packages
Good evening, during compiling re-packaging of some libraries on the powerpc I noticed several problems regarding our libc. On the powerpc - as on the alpha - there is no libc5 package and will never be (I guess). As a result compilation of any library that provides both a libc5 and libc6 release will fail, and so does the packaging step. I'd suggest that all such packages only try to compile and package the libc5 packages if there is a libc5 installed. Thanks, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / http://home.pages.de/~joey/ / VFS: no free i-nodes, contact Linus -- finlandia, Feb '94 / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: where ist elf-x11r6lib?
Michael Bramer writes: hello Ich search for the packet 'elf-x11r6lib'. Where can I find it? That's only a pseudo package that does not exist anymore. Unfortunately some packages still depend on it. Please file a bug report against them. It should be compatible to xlib6, so if you have that one installed try to force the installation with '--force-depends. Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * Debian Linux Maintainer * [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ / http://www.debian.org/ http://home.pages.de/~joey/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: announcement lists
Adrian Bridgett writes: I think it's [EMAIL PROTECTED] actually, but I'm not sure; I only occasionally get mail to it -- all of it inappropriate (everything I've gotten to xbase@ in particular should have either gone to debian-user or to [EMAIL PROTECTED], mostly the latter...) Args, no! All wrong. It's package@packages.debian.org Huh? the package addresses don't lead to email storing *anywhere* -- they just forward directly to the listed package maintainer. If the Correct. It's meant for contacting the maintainer, not for submitting bugs. maintainer knows of an announce list, they can subscribe themselves (or package if they wish to); often there isn't one, and the package is only announced to c.o.l.a... Oops - a bit of a thinko there :-) However it would be nice to do this - if there is no maintainer, then the mail could be binned (as a new maintainer is quite likely to look for the latest version). IIRC, the maintainer for ophaned packaged _should_ be set to the debian-qa group, who could keep track of it. Give me a file containing those packages and update it regularily on master and the mailer at packages.debian.org will know about that. Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * Debian Linux Maintainer * [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ / http://www.debian.org/ http://home.pages.de/~joey/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Who's root on Master?
Eduardo Marcel Macan writes: Hello, I need to have my password changed in master, who is in charge of maintaining the user accounts there? I finally got [EMAIL PROTECTED] working. This alias will forward mail to the others who have root access to the machines. Thanks, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * Debian Linux Maintainer * [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ / http://www.debian.org/ http://home.pages.de/~joey/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Contents.gz
Folks, could anybody tell me which program created the Contents files? Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * Debian Linux Maintainer * [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ / http://www.debian.org/ http://home.pages.de/~joey/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Mailinglists documented
Good evening folks, Much of the the conversation between Debian developers and users is managed through several mailing lists. Debian GNU/Linux is developed through distributed development all around the world. Therefore email is a preferred way to discuss various items. All the mailing lists that are served on lists.debian.org are now documented in one file and this should reflect their actual state. You'll find this file on your favourite Debian mirror in /debian/doc/mailing-lists.txt. This file is a complete rewrite. Thanks to Bruce Perens for contributing the first version of this file. I took over maintenance of this recently. I will try to keep it up to date and to describe new lists. Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * Debian Linux Maintainer * [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ / http://www.debian.org/ http://home.pages.de/~joey/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: fixhrefgz - tool for converting anchors to gzipped files
On Jun 27, Christian Schwarz wrote I wrote exactly the same thing in Perl (on your request!) some time ago. I have attached it to this mail. I don't know which version is better. It looks like Lars' implementation has hard coded a lot of HTML tags for processing. Mine is based on Perl's HTML::Parser class and is thus independent of any specific HTML tags. better? I'm not sure if this is important. If the tool should be used on every system, we should use the perl tool. We cannot recommend another high-level interpreter (python) - perl should be enough. # Currently, we have a problem with compressed HTML: we can access # compressed HTML fine, but links don't work very well. The problem # is that the link says foo.html, and the actual file is # foo.html.gz, # and the browsers and servers aren't intelligent enough to handle # this invisibly. This means that we can't install compressed HTML, if # it contains links. Wouldn't it be a cool project if we would improve all Debian used browsers to handle this and give back the code to the upstream release? I like the idea. Regards... Joey -- Individual Network e.V._/ OrgaTech [EMAIL PROTECTED]_/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Geschaeftszeit: Di+Mi+Fr, 15-18 Uhr _/Tel: (0441) 9808556 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: RfD: Debian is not randomly installing services
Christian Schwarz writes: The situation looks completely different if the server has its own package, like `msqld' for the server and `msql' for the client. Not really -- the user should still be prompted (or have some control over it) because the daemon package probably contains the *documentation* for the daemon! I should be able to install a package in order to read the docs, and not have to run it... Seconded. However, we should probably distinguish between local daemons and network daemons. I think it is pretty safe to start lpd on every machine, since the default configuration would not accept queries from foreign hosts. If I install the lpd package, I would not like to be asked whether this daemon should be started! Really? I haven't noticed that there is a switch at lpd similar to '-r' on syslogd. Nevertheless, even local daemon can cause security problems and if the user doesn't need it why should that daemon be started? I could live with your addition but I would like to be prompted, too. Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / The MS-DOS filesystem is nice for removable media / / -- H. Peter Anvin / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: RfD: Debian is not randomly installing services
Mark Eichin writes: The situation looks completely different if the server has its own package, like `msqld' for the server and `msql' for the client. Not really -- the user should still be prompted (or have some control over it) because the daemon package probably contains the *documentation* for the daemon! I should be able to install a package in order to read the docs, and not have to run it... Hmm, sounds reasonable. Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / The MS-DOS filesystem is nice for removable media / / -- H. Peter Anvin / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RfD: Debian is not randomly installing services
, running CVS over a remote execution program such as rsh, kerberized rsh, or ssh involves no network security implications beyond those involved in running the remote execution program in the first place. VI. For future information For future updates on CVS security, consult http://www.cyclic.com. In particular, there is a security page at http://www.cyclic.com/cyclic-pages/security.html. - -- Best regards, Joey -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBM7P2MBRNm5Suj3z1AQGAMgP/Q2LPUS6KLJ7u/Yb/NRVyrtxpL6KYDO/a z4TdBcNv4GDZi8oDKZnm1MXKmgqpVIrKdweP4slATTX9HEuydcjikbhg5Gs5A98N xHjUTD6bNmXj1uP4iMgfHsTtJEfDJZ0YvfITwMyZ/XVgjFTgcaxINGHpej6g6Vgy WWYOhpPyV2s= =5Wae -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / The MS-DOS filesystem is nice for removable media / / -- H. Peter Anvin / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Experiences with compiling Debian
On Jun 25, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote yes, i would like to install files into debian/tmp without being root, but currently it doesn't work without root. and to delete debian/tmp/*, i also have to be root :-( if you have too much time (or someone else): go ahead and write a wrapper. we know, that we need a wrapper for a long time, but till now nobody started to write one... This task can't be that difficult. Bruce wrote the tar-extracter and we only need a modified includer. Both could/should be able to handle /@/LongLinks (for long filenames) Regards... Joey -- Individual Network e.V._/ OrgaTech [EMAIL PROTECTED]_/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Geschaeftszeit: Di+Mi+Fr, 15-18 Uhr _/Tel: (0441) 9808556 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Copyright question
David Frey writes:
On Mon, Jun 23 1997 7:25 BST Marco Budde writes:
Any comments?
(Please add next time a translated version too, not everyone
reads natively german [I'd had a hard time to understand e.g.
dutch or polish])
*smile* Some german people have problems understanding swiss people, too. :-)
PS: Has somebody found a good online dictionary? (A dictionary e.g.
French/English, German/English, not only a word-list)
Try this one
lexi=()
{
lynx http://wais.leo.org/cgi-bin/dict-search?search=$1;
}
A copy should run on www.i-connect.net
Regards
Joey
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Re: klogd?!
Nicolás Lichtmaier writes: On Sat, 21 Jun 1997, Paul Haggart wrote: Anyone else having problems with klogd sucking up all their cpu time? Even with it fully 'nice'd, it still uses 100%. Run `strace' against it! ... and mail me a copy of the results. Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / The good thing about standards is / / that there are so many to choose from. -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mgetty Needs Maintainer!
John Goerzen writes: No. What happened is this: * You handed the package over to me. I uploaded several versions into unstable. (Bug reports are now going to me.) The person posting that message must have been using an old version, from 1.2. I never made a release of mgetty to stable since there were no serious bugs to fix. * Several months ago, I handed the package over to Siggy -- a couuple of days before he had a fire. I finally figured out what happened, so I handed it over to a different person. Siggy is willing to work on mgetty again. He'll be available again, soon. Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / The good thing about standards is / / that there are so many to choose from. -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Documentation Policy
Christian Schwarz writes: Hi folks! re So I suggest the following policy. Note, that this is just a summary, not the actual text. The unification of Debian documentation is being carried out via HTML. However, we'll still provide GNU info documentation, where available. Thus, every package that contains documentation in a convertable format has to provide HTML documentation. The documentation will be distributed via several packages: foo-doc-html for HTML docs foo-doc-info for GNU info docs (where available) foo-doc-xxx for other formats (only where appropriate) (An example for the last case would be DVI documentation for TeX related packages.) If the documentation files in all available formats do not require more than 100k of disk space _together_, they may be included in the main package. Otherwise, the will have to be distributed in seperate packages, one for each format. Any comments? I don't like the idea of splitting packages that much. It increses the confusion for users. For new users it is incredible difficult to install Debian because of 1000 packages. And for my feeling the documentation belongs to the package itself. I don't want to install another package just because I need some documention. OTOH I do understand your way. Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / The good thing about standards is / / that there are so many to choose from. -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: bazaar model for Debian software development
James R. Van Zandt writes: John W. Eaton [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the maintainer of Octave) has pointed out a very interesting document by Eric S. Raymond: http://www.ccil.org/~esr/writings/cathedral.html Just FYI This was subject of his talk on Linux-Kongress in Wuerzburg last month. Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / The good thing about standards is / / that there are so many to choose from. -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: create Packages.gz file from directory
Christian Leutloff writes: I want to create a Packages.gz file for local files, i.e. on a CD-ROM or ZIP floppy. Using dpkg --record-avail -R /usr/src/deb it's possible to get the information manually, but how can I write it to a file?? There is dpkg-scanpackages somewhere. Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country / / Featuring Debian GNU/Linux motd von irc.funet.fi / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How do we encourage bug reports?
Good morning Enrique and others! Perhaps the `bug' package should be priority standard? It does make bug reporting much easier. Yes, and when it installs itself, from `deity', it should stop with a message to be read, (any key to continue) which advertises `bug's presence and explains how, why, and when to use it, and invites people to do so. Wasn't one of our goals to allow an unattended installation? We're far away from that. Many packages are asking questions so that the installation really takes some time, answering all of them, selecting the packages c. Perhaps you could think over the whole thing and how we could arrange to have an installation without the need to answer questions. Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country / / Featuring Debian GNU/Linux motd von irc.funet.fi / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: new mantainer
Francesco Tapparo writes: Hi, I'm reading this list from some time, and now I think I'm ready for my first package; I've read that Martin Schulze is finding a new mantainer for his xdaliclock package. If Martin agrees, I can take the mantainance of the xdaliclock package. You got it. Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / If you come from outside of Finland, you live in wrong country / / Featuring Debian GNU/Linux motd von irc.funet.fi / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Using CVS for package development
Sven Rudolph writes: Andreas Jellinghaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: great. since i meet other debian developers at the linux congress, i my a big friend of a cvs server with all debian packages. does anyone have a server with enough hard disks and a good conection to run it ? Some problems arise: Should this CVS repository be mandatory, i.e. does every Debian package have to be there? How much disk space will this take ? Don't seriously bother about disk space. Debian has a fond of money from which additional disks could be paid. But a problem that I see is that it would be good if we could have _some_ mirrored cvs archives, i.e. there are a lot of european maintainer and it does make sense if we have a master cvs server cvs.debian.org and a europe/ german secondary. I don't know if and how we could arrange that uploads reach the master, too. also it would help to coordinate updates (think of the menu package - this way we could have send diffs direct to the maintainer). My favourite example ;-) And everyone would be able to get an older version than the actual, too. My favourite example: just after setting up an exchange system for my server a friend of mine encountered that the new uucp package was unusable, if I had installed it, the result would be horrorous (sp?). So I'll repeat this: IMHO Currently the overhead of fixing a bug and publishing the fixed version is too high. For unstable it would be enough to check-in the fix (e.g. an added menu file, a spelling-fix). Please note that the procedure for stable might be different. Hmm, where is the change? You still have to publish the fixed version, haven't you? Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / This copy of Netscape has expired. -- Netscape / /Ein weiterer Grund Mosaic zu benutzen. :-( / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Using CVS for package development
Sven Rudolph writes: Communication should be done via a package-specific mailing list. The maintainer of the package decides who has commit privileges for this package and who gets on this package's developers' mailing-list. This mailing list could be used as target for the bug reports against this package. Which brings me back to the point of [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] where the actual maintainer can modify the content of that alias by using his account on master and a feature of qmail. $package will point to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for instance. The aliasfile could be generated by a cronjob via examining the most recent Packages file. Comments? Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / This copy of Netscape has expired. -- Netscape / /Ein weiterer Grund Mosaic zu benutzen. :-( / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Bug#4557: Last file on iso9660-image always corrupted
Stephen Early and Winfried Truemper write: This error can be reproduced as follows: bash bash mount -t iso9660 -o loop=/dev/loop0 cd /mnt Have you checked to make sure that this isn't a problem with the loopback filesystem? I will test mkisofs on a raw disk partition shortly; I can't do so just yet because I don't have a partition free. It isn't a problem with the loopback becaus it also occurs on written images later. :-( I have seen this problem but havn't investigated it that fas as Winni. Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / http://home.pages.de/~joey/ / Ich glaube nur der Statistik, die ich selbst gefälscht habe! /
Bug#4556: inn shouldn't limit message size
Package: inn Version: 1.4unoff4-1 The innd is compiled with a maximum size of news articles. The Eunet company posts monthly news statistics that are longer... Here are the used values: *ott--* stesch ## Largest acceptable article size; 0 allows any size *ott--* stesch =()MAX_ART_SIZE @MAX_ART_SIZE@()= *ott--* stesch MAX_ART_SIZE35 Miquel, could you please change this. Regards, Joey
Bug#4559: faxq doesn't restart suspended jobs
Package: mgetty Version: 0.99-4 The help screen of faxq says that `-r' restarts suspended jobs, but it doesn't as the following excerpt shows: troi!joey(ttyp1):~ faxq -r /usr/bin/faxq: invalid option: -r valid options: -o: show old jobs -s: show suspended jobs -a: show all jobs -v: verbose output -r: restart suspended jobs Regards, Martin
Bug#4547: X-Server should depend on xfnt*
Package: xserver-svga Version: 3.1.2-5 The X-Server packages should depend on any xfnt package, because without any X-Font the postinst would fail (X -probeonly fails). If it is needed I can investigate if xfnt100 and/or xfnt75 are enough. Regards, Martin
Bug#4552: xf86config: message is confusing
Package: xserver-svga Version: 3.1.2-5 While configuring this package one is asked the following question: Now give the full device name that the mouse is connected to, for example /dev/tty00. Just pressing enter will use the default, /dev/mouse. Mouse device: /dev/tty00 is the first serial interface on some other unices, such as NetBSD. On Linux this is /dev/ttyS0. I would like to have this changed. :-) Regards, Joey
ae as default editor?
Good morning folks, Why is ae the default editor for vipw/vigr even on a completely installed system? Doesn't VI-gr/pw suggest that a VI clone is executed? I can understand to use ae as a fallback editor, but not as the main one # dpkg -l passwd Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ NameVersionDescription +++-===-==- ii passwd 1.0-5 Change password data. Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / http://home.pages.de/~joey/ / Ich glaube nur der Statistik, die ich selbst gefälscht habe! /
Bug#4488: Useless LF in faxspool
Package: mgetty Version: 0.99-3 There is a useless '\n' in front of a line: Transcript: troi!joey(tty4):/tmp faxspool 1234567 faxtest.txt spooling to /var/spool/fax/outgoing/F02.1206... spooling faxtest.txt... faxtest.txt is format: ascii Initializing... done. Ghostscript 2.6.2 (4/19/95) Copyright (C) 1990-1995 Aladdin Enterprises, Menlo Park, CA. All rights reserved. Ghostscript comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file COPYING for details. Loading Courier-Bold font from /usr/lib/ghostscript/2.62/fonts/ncrb.gsf... 259192 252511 0 done. Printing faxtest.txt Page height = 72. \nPutting Header lines on top of pages... || ^^--- this I mean WARNING: G3 file - has incorrect line width, fixed Fax queued successfully. WARNING: faxrunq hasn't been run in the last 24 hours. Faxes only get sent out when faxrunq runs! Contact Fax administrator. Regards, Martin
Bug#4488: Useless LF in sendfax
The same happens to messages sent by faxq: Transcript: --- Subject: your fax to 9808557 From: root (Fax Subsystem),\n Your fax has been sent successfully at: \c Fri Sep 13 15:06:51 MET DST 1996 \n\nJob / Log file: phone 9808557 user joey input faxtest.txt pages f1.g3 Status Fri Sep 13 15:06:51 MET DST 1996 successfully sent \nSending succeeded after 0 unsuccessful tries. --- Regards, Joey
Bug#4490: Request for Entry: application/octet-stream exe
Package: mime-support Version: 2.02-1 Downloads of .exe (DOS *sigh*) files doesn't work correctly without it. Thanks, Martin
Bug#4459: klogs does not find System.map
Hallo Christoph! }Package: sysklogd }Version: 1.3-6 } }klogd seems not be able to find the /System.map file. I get the following }messages from the kernel on bootup: Have you tried this with 1.3-11, too? If so I will upload a new release within the next days. Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / http://home.pages.de/~joey/ /Eine Kette ist nur so stark wie ihr schwächstes Glied /
Bug#4297: msql 1.0.16 cannot connect to remote DBs
Hallo Brian! }When I try to run any of the msql programs, it fails to connect to remote }databases. Connecting to these from a 1.0.14 client works fine. } }$ relshow -h gate }Connect: Connection refused Could you please give me more information? What you gave me, isn't enough. I work with the msqld on three machines: Linux 1.2.13 (a.out), Linux 1.3.100 (elf) and SCO ODT 2.3. I can connect to all three engines from all three machines. I have installed the Debian sources on them. Does your remote engine run on the same port as the local one? I.e. 4333. Does the other machine run Debian Linux? Have a look at the manpage, you can specify a host using '-h gate:1222' if the other engine runs on port 1222. Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * Debian Linux Maintainer * [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ / http://www.debian.org/ http://home.pages.de/~joey/
Bug#4254: msql config problems
Hallo Brian! }Version: 1.0.16-2 } }After upgrading from v1.0.14... I have tried this, too, but haven't had any problems. }The /var/log/msql directory is: } }drwxr-x--- 2 operator msql 1024 Aug 23 15:11 /var/log/msql/ } }It should be owned by root.msql and have the permissions 775. It is owned by msql.msql. There might be a problem with your uid/gid that I don't understand because the postinst is testing and correcting them. I change it to mode 755. }The /etc/msql.acl file is: } }-rwx-- 1 operator msql 300 Aug 23 15:08 /etc/msql.acl* } }It should be owned by msql.msql and have the permissions 775. It _is_ owned by msql.msql and should never be a+x. As this file contains rules for accessing databases that no everyone should know I don't believe that is should be world-readable. Especially because of miserable access rules every user could easily think of spoofing. }*** The install script removed the existing msql.acl file I had made. }Good thing I make backups! I'm awfully sorry, this seems to be the case because of msqld replaces msql-server. This didn't happen here. }Fixing these and restarting using /etc/init.d/msqld start gives }the following error (repeatedly)... }Can't start server : UNIX Bind : Permission denied Then another msqld is already running, kill it with killall. } }mSQL Server 1.0.16 starting ... } } }The unix socket is: } }srwxrwxrwx 1 root root0 Aug 21 15:52 /dev/msql= } }This should probably be owned by root.msql, but shouldn't be the }cause of this problem. No, my msql-package doesn't provide a socket in /dev but in /var/run/msql. This socket was used by the old msql package. }Trying to stop these repeated message by doing /etc/init.d/msqld stop }gives the following error: } }callandor:/etc# /etc/init.d/msqld stop }ERROR : Can't connect to local MSQL server }rm: /var/run/msqld/shutdown: Permission denied }rm: /var/run/msqld/shutdown: Permission denied This all seems to be a result of incompatibilities betweeen these two packages. }The shutdown file is: } }-rw-r- 1 root root5 Aug 23 15:52 /var/run/msqld/shutdown } }Since I ran the stop command as root, the only thing I can think of here }is that something is running as user/group msql and could thus not access }the shutdown file. Do you still have any problems after rebooting? (this erases every eventually running old daemon) Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * Debian Linux Maintainer * [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ / http://www.debian.org/ http://home.pages.de/~joey/
Bug#4310: (no subject)
Subject: index.html ist installed a+x Package: apache Version: 1.0.5-1 I don't know why but the index.html file that is installed in /var/web/webspace is of mode 755 instead of 644. I think this is a bug, right? Regards, Joey
Bug#4176: mkdosfs has file conflict with dosfstools
You write: }Package: mkdosfs, dosfstools }Version: 0.3b-1, 1.0-1 }Unpacking mkdosfs (from .../misc/mkdosfs_0.3b-1.deb) ... }... }dpkg - warning, overriding problem because --force enabled: } trying to overwrite `/usr/man/man8/mkdosfs.8', which is also in package dosfstools The package mkdosfs is the predecessor of dosfstools. I have asked Guy to remove the first one. It seems that he has more important work to do. Regards, Joey PS: Guy, would you please remove mkdosfs from the archive and close this bug.-- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / No question is too silly to ask, / /but, of course, some are too silly to answer -- perl book /
Bug#4181: Searching for wrong active file
Package: nn
Version: 6.5.0.b3.linux.1.1-01
Debian's INN has its active file located in /var/lib/news/active.
The nn newsreader mentioned above unfortunately tries to read it
from /usr/lib/news/active.
Here's an strace excerpt:
wazergate!joey:~ strace nn
[...]
uname({sys=Linux, node=wazergate, ...}) = 0
open(/etc/hosts, O_RDONLY)= 3
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=156, ...}) = 0
read(3, 127.0.0.1\tlocalhost\n192.109.22..., 4096) = 156
read(3, , 4096) = 0
close(3)= 0
brk(0x8049000) = 0x8049000
brk(0x804a000) = 0x804a000
brk(0x804d000) = 0x804d000
open(/usr/lib/news/active, O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
fstat(1, {st_mode=S_IFCHR|0600, st_rdev=makedev(4, 197), ...}) = 0
brk(0x804e000) = 0x804e000
ioctl(1, 0x5401, {B38400 opost isig icanon echo ...}) = 0
write(1, could not fetch active file\n, 28could not fetch active file
Regards,
Martin
Bug#3961: 14 character file name limit in zoo
Good morning Carl! }Package: zoo }Version: 2.10-1 } }Zoo seems to have some 14 character filename limits, even though the ext2 }filesystem doesn't have such a limit. I can store long filenames, but }an extract seems to truncate the name at 14 characters. I have an a.out }version that doesn't seem to have the same problem, but I am not sure }if I had compiled it, or had gotten it from a very old slackware install. As zoo comes from DOS I'm not sure if it would be a good idea to support long filenames. Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / http://home.pages.de/~joey/ / Never trust an operating system you don't have source for! /
Bug#3185: NCR SCSI 810 support lacking in bootdisks
Good morning pieterb! }I came to the same conclusion while upgrading my Linux system to }Debian 1.1.2. I also must say that the special-kernel directory in the Debian/stable }directory is a mess in most ftp directories (even in ftp.debian.org). } }Can you send me info if NCR SCSI 810 support is ready in a Debian }bootdisk. Both aha 2940 and NCR 810 are not supported by Debian bootdisks. I was in the same situation and created a special bootdisk, you might want to use it, too. You'll find it in ftp.infodrom.north.de/pub/Linux/Distributions/Debian/goodies/disks-i386/boot1440.bin. There are only modules missing, just skip that section. Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / http://home.pages.de/~joey/ / Never trust an operating system you don't have source for! /
Bug#4049: access permissions for sysklogd
Good morning Daniel! }/sbin/klogd and /sbin/syslogd should be 755. Why? I don't see any reason they should be executable by everyone. I have copied those permissions from my predecessor and I agree to them. }/usr/doc/sysklogd should be 644. Oups, sure. Will be fixed. Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / http://home.pages.de/~joey/ / Never trust an operating system you don't have source for! /
Uploading dosfstools 1.0-3 (Utility to create and check MS-DOS FAT filesystems)
-- Begin Changes -- Date: 7 Aug 96 19:45:50 UT Format: 1.5 Distribution: unstable Binary: dosfstools Source: dosfstools Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.0-3 Maintainer: Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: Utility to create and check MS-DOS FAT filesystems Inside of this package there are two utilities to create and to check MS-DOS FAT filesystems on either harddisks or floppies under Linux. This version uses the enhanced boot sector/superblock format of DOS 3.3+ as well as provides a default dummy boot sector code. Priority: Routine Files: 12e5f09a38e83884bc139a7306932994 3857 misc - dosfstools_1.0-3.diff.gz 2f5353377374a035c899d3efbdf8f113 51682 misc - dosfstools_1.0-3.tar.gz c283aa9527b7343e18d19f4d194c2fc5 23490 misc - dosfstools_1.0-3_i386.deb Changes: * added Conflicts entry in control file * Corrected .diff.gz filename :-( -- End Changes -- PS: As usual first in ftp.infodrom.north.de in /pub/people/joey/debian/ -- / Martin Schulze * Debian Linux Maintainer * [EMAIL PROTECTED] / / http://www.debian.org/ http://www.infodrom.north.de/~joey/ / Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for! /
Uploading manpages 1.11-6 (Section 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, and 9 manpages)
Good night folks, After much work on and with manpages I'll upload another set for Debian. -- Begin Changes -- Date: 04 Aug 96 02:04:48 UT Format: 1.5 Distribution: unstable Binary: manpages Source: manpages Architecture: source all Version: 1.11-6 Maintainer: Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: Section 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, and 9 manpages This package contains the Linux man pages for all chapters except 1 and 8. Priority: Routine Files: 8cde4159d3feefce6db42c2af80b28db 348640 doc - manpages-1.11-6.all.deb a5f9e5481f094752a044c4475b4db172 26813 doc - manpages-1.11-6.diff.gz b18014618a2a19167a030953b54a1193 380399 doc - manpages-1.11-6.tar.gz Changes: * several, also mailed to the author -- End Changes -- I have modified many files. If you're interested in these changes, taka a look at the diff file please, they were too much to note every single in the Changes. Have a pleasant beginning of the week, Joey PS: As usual first in ftp.infodrom.north.de in /pub/people/joey/debian/ -- / Martin Schulze * Debian Linux Maintainer * [EMAIL PROTECTED] / / http://www.debian.org/ http://www.infodrom.north.de/~joey/ / Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for! /
BETA: miniSQL database engine tools v1.0.16
Good day folks, I have worked with the mSQL database engine for some time now and decided to package it for Debian Linux. Unfortunately I'm not the only one that works on this, but my counterpart seems to be quite slow with answering his mails so I steped forward and finished the package without waiting for his replies. I'm now at the point where I for myself use the package and where I would like to invite everyone to take this package into her/his personal betatest and send me comments and enhancements. There is a todo-list but I think I will release it even without having done everything noted there. :-/ a) I have splitted the package into 4 parts to provide a maximum of flexibility. - libmsql1 contains the shared library (only a static lib on a.out systems) all other packages depend on it. - msqld contains the database engine itself - msqladmin contains some programs to maintain the engine and databases - msql contains user programs to manipulate databases - msqlperl contains a library for perl that provides an easy environment for programing database applications b) This mSQL package needs a special user id `msql' to maintain databases. Please make sure that a user and a group with that name exists. (on my system they are uid=gid=25, if you choose different values, you HAVE TO recompile the package) Unfortunately Bruce hasn't reallocated one for me but it's on his list. I would recommend an entry similar to the following in your password file: msql:password:25:25:mSQL Database Manager:/var/lib/msql:/bin/sh Then the whole engine can be controlled by a special user account. This account may receive some mails so please also make sure that they are read. ;-) c) Does it make sense to put msqlperl into the misc section (it's as free as perl itself), while libmsql1 on which it depends has to go into the non-free section? You will find the package as source, diff and .deb's at the following location: ftp.infodrom.north.de in /pub/people/joey/debian/beta. Please send me comments about it. Have a pleasant weekend, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * Debian Linux Maintainer * [EMAIL PROTECTED] / / http://www.debian.org/ http://www.infodrom.north.de/~joey/ / Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for! /
Bug#3539: (no subject)
Subject: mkisofs stops if an error occurs Package: mkisofs Version: 1.05-1 mkisofs unfortunately stops if a permission problem occors on the source filesystem, like a directory isn't world executable or readable. I would appreciate if it would report a warning and go on. Some users (like myself) can't provide two times 650 MB for creating an image, instead they have to nfs-mount all the stuff somewhere. If there is confidential stuff in a dirctory
Bug#3540: mkisofs stops if a problem occurs
Package: mkisofs Version: 1.05-1 Mkisofs unfortunately stops if a permission problem occors on the source filesystem, like a directory isn't world executable or readable. I would appreciate if it would report a warning and go on. Some users (like myself) can't provide two times 650 MB space just for creating an cd image, instead they have to nfs-mount all the stuff somewhere. If there is confidential stuff in a dirctory that should not occur on the cdrom then mkisofs suddenly stops. Regards, Martin PS: If there is another bugreport beginning like this than it should be reportet as a bug against mailx, because I pressed Ctrl-C to abort. Mailx must not send that mail out...
Bug#3703: mkisofs stops if a permission problem occurs
Package: mkisofs Version: 1.05-1 I would like to add this as a hint to the existing bugreport but as usual I can't find it. I even haven't received a confirmation. Anyway... I would appreciate if mkisofs would test each file for read access while it builds its directory structure and _before_ it tries to create the image (and would stop after it has built 600 of 650 MB). This could save the user a lot of time, especially if the machine that builds the image isn't the fastest one. Regards, Martin
Uploading 1.2.2-4 1.2.2-3 ()
-- Begin Changes -- -- End Changes -- PS: As usual first in ftp.infodrom.north.de in /pub/people/joey/debian/ -- / Martin Schulze * Debian Linux Maintainer * [EMAIL PROTECTED] / / http://www.debian.org/ http://www.infodrom.north.de/~joey/ / Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for! /
Bug#3479: (no subject)
Subject: copyright occurs twice Package: mkisofs Version: 1.05-1 The files /usr/doc/copyright/mkisofs and /usr/doc/mkisofs/README.DEBIAN are exactly the same. I'm sure the first of them is enough. Regards, Martin
Bug#3480: (no subject)
Subject: missing information in manpage Package: mkisofs Version: 1.05-1 The manpage issues the possibility to set a volume-id with -V volid but forgets to mention which size it may be, other sizes are mentioned: preparer_id, publisher_id Regards, Martin
Bug#3481: (no subject)
Subject: jkj Package: gcc Version: 2.7.2-5 Package: gcc Version: 2.7.2-5
Automatic mount of cdroms
Good night folks, normally cdrom drives are marked with `noauto' in the /etc/fstab file to provide a smooth booting process. Does Debian provide a tool that regularily tries to mount the cdrom drive? If not, I would be happy to contribute with one and its manpage. I'm not sure to which package it then should belong. The cron package? Another base package? A package of it's own? I won't do that, just ad an option to one of the base packages. Have a nice sleep, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * Debian Linux Maintainer * [EMAIL PROTECTED] / / http://www.debian.org/ http://home.pages.de/~joey/
Uploading sysklogd 0.0-0 ()
-- Begin Changes -- -- End Changes -- PS: As usual first in ftp.infodrom.north.de in /pub/people/joey/debian/ -- / Martin Schulze * Debian Linux Maintainer * [EMAIL PROTECTED] / / http://www.debian.org/ http://www.infodrom.north.de/~joey/ / Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for! /
Re: Where are the bugs?
Good morning Ian! }Martin Schulze writes (Where are the bugs?): } I'm missing bugs. In fact on ftp.debian.org /debian/debian-bugs/text } only bugreports up to #1810 do exist. Where are newer ones? } }We're working on it. The US bugs mirror is broken atm - use the UK }site instead. No problem, but which site? I haven't found them on chiark. And I'm not going to use WWW to access bug-reports, no I won't! Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / http://home.pages.de/~joey/ / Ich glaube nur der Statistik, die ich selbst gefdlscht habe! /
manpages-1.9-1
Good evening folks, I'm about packaging the 1.9 manual pages. Therefore I have some questions: 1. Should I provide a RECOMMENDED: man line in the control file? (or should this even be a DEPENDS? Have a pleasant day, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / +49-441-777884 * LoginPasswd: nuucp * Index: ~/ls-lR.gz / / This copy of Netscape has expired. -- Netscape / /Ein weiterer Grund Mosaic zu benutzen. :-( /
Re: debian-1.0 availability
Dear Robert Leslie! }I don't know about other mirrors, but AFAICT tsx-11.mit.edu doesn't even carry }the 0.93R6 release any more. It only offers debian-1.0. I have just looked at sunsite. I thought they carry the whole tree, but they don't. They only offer 0.93*. That's ok. Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / Es braucht dann allerdings Tage, bis jemand / / sehr lange Ohren bekommt. -- Lutz Donnerhacke zu Spamcancels /
manpages-1.8 .tar.gz .diff.gz
Good morning folks, I took over the manpages package, but I can't find these files anywhere. I only see a .deb package. Could someone please send me these files. Thanks. Have a pleasant day, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / +49-441-777884 * LoginPasswd: nuucp * Index: ~/ls-lR.gz / / This copy of Netscape has expired. -- Netscape / /Ein weiterer Grund Mosaic zu benutzen. :-( /
Bug#1902: manpage for wtmp wrong
Hallo Andrew Howell! } Package: manpages } Version: 1.8-1 } (I'm being picky, but...) } According to the Contents file, wtmp is located in /etc - which it is. However, } the wtmp manpage says it's in /var/adm. I'd say this would be a manpages } problem rather than a base problem... Oh while I'm at it, I'm not sure but it } could be the same error for the utmp. } }/var/adm is linked to /var/log, wtmp is in /var/adm. }utmp is in /var/run } }wtmp is not in /etc on my system So the bugreport can be closed, right? Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / +49-441-777884 * LoginPasswd: nuucp * Index: ~/ls-lR.gz / / The MS-DOS filesystem is nice for removable media / / -- H. Peter Anvin /
Some questions concerning further sysklogd upload
Hi folks! We (Greg and myself) are now at a late stadium right before releasing 1.3 of our sysklogd package. To have a smooth introtuction I have to get some answers to some questions before can it for debian I have. Hopefully the maintainers are willing to answer. :-) 1. Who is responsible for kernel versions? If you use a kernel version less than 1.3.43 you'll need to apply a patch. So I probably need to know the maintainers of the 1.2.x and 1.3.y versions. 2. Who is responsible for entries in the /etc/services file? 3. How do I get a possibly non-existing manpage removed within the installation procedure? Have a nice weekend anyway, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / +49-441-777884 * LoginPasswd: nuucp * Index: ~/ls-lR.gz / / This copy of Netscape has expired. -- Netscape / /Ein weiterer Grund Mosaic zu benutzen. :-( /
Bug#1853: top fails after 130 processes?
Hello Karl Ferguson! }Package: procps }Version: 0.97-4 }I was running top on my system tonight and it showed the stats of 124 }processes etc etc. Then on the next view 5 seconds later it spits out: } }top: Help! Too many processes } }Then it exits, and wont let me run it until it's below 130ish - is this what }it's meant to do? Otherwise killing processes that run away when using over }120 odd processes would be murder going through a normal ps list. As I remember this is a strange behaviour. It is based in two things: a) newer kernel have a process limit of 256, if I'm correct. (I don't remember where this is defined) b) Older kernel only have a limit of 130 or so. A `top' that was compiled on such a system will only allow you to have that much processes. In former times this was a trick to test the distribution. You can easily check wether the maintainer made the work to compile this himself or to copy it from whereever. I'm a bit confused if this beat Debian, too. Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / +49-441-777884 * LoginPasswd: nuucp * Index: ~/ls-lR.gz / / http://home.pages.de/~joey/ / The only stupid question is the unasked one /
Bug#1833: srb@cuci.nl: patch for Debian sysklogd package]
Hallo Bruce Perens! }Note that Stephen is the author of the Procmail and SmartList programs }(which operate our list server). Turning off the fsync is indeed a big }win on a machine that operates mailing list. There may be 4 syslog() calls }for each subscriber every time a message goes to a mailing list. This }ends up being continuous disk rattling. } }This switch solves the immediate problem, but making a way to tune this }in syslog.conf would be even nicer. So you would like to have something like auth.info/var/log/auth mail.info-/var/log/auth in the configuration file? The `-' indicating that the logfile shouldn't be fsync'd? I have to think about it some time. Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / +49-441-777884 * LoginPasswd: nuucp * Index: ~/ls-lR.gz / / http://home.pages.de/~joey/ /Eine Kette ist nur so stark wie ihr schwdchstes Glied /
Bug#1792: vipw, vigr missing
Dear Ian Jackson! }Package: miscutils? }Version: 1.3-2 } }There should be vipw and vigr scripts for editing /etc/passwd and }/etc/group. This is so that it is easy for the sysadmin to do the }locking necessary to ensure that updates do not get lost. vipw is encluded in util-linux. (latest version 2.5, 2.6 will be a havily improved package) In the util-linux package actually there is no vigr included. But for some reason I work on this. Perhaps it would be a good idea if the miscutils maintainer (I don't know who that is) could contact me then. Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / +49-441-777884 * LoginPasswd: nuucp * Index: ~/ls-lR.gz / / *** Fatal Error: Found [MS-Windows], / / repartitioning Disk for Linux ... /
Bug#1695:
reassign
Re: package uploading probs
Hallo Matthew Bailey! } directory across some sites with good connectivity and use rdist(1) to keep them } in sync? Major mirror sites might be good canditates for this. } }I would probably suggest just mirror as a program to keep them up to date. }If there is a SINGLE site then this would not be a problem. Are you sure that mirror is a good idea? How are files on a european mirror deleted? I won't make sense retrieving them again every hour. }I would mirror them into a directory called }private/project/incoming-europe I have talked about this before but I }beleive that no one was able to come up with a site. }Let me know the URL and I will begin an hourly mirror of it, asuming that }is OK with the rest of Devel. I think it's a good idea. There are some debian mirrors in europe I know of: ftp.leidenuniv.nl and somewhere at *.uni-dresden.de. If you decide to so, It would be a good idea if that machine gets an alias as ftp.europe.debian.org, so that it can be easily found and used. Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / +49-441-777884 * LoginPasswd: nuucp * Index: ~/ls-lR.gz / / Germany.Net ist vergleichbar mit einem Telefon/ / ohne Waehlscheibe und Klingel... -- Lutz Donnerhacke / 30.10.95: Oldenburger Linux-Stammtisch, ab 20h im DaCapo
Re: Distribution
Hallo Ian Jackson! }So, what we're left with, if you agree with my release strategy, is: } } released - debian-0.93 } debian-0.93/binary [ bugfixes and urgent releases only ] } source } ms-dos } Packages - binary/Packages } disks So bugfixes et cetera still go into a released release (eh published release). So we run into the great slackware problem that there are tons of version 2.2 (as an example). I don't agree to that. What about the following: released - debian-0.93 debian-0.93/binary source ms-dos Packages - binary/Packages disks updates/binary [ bugfixes and urgent releases only ] source ms-dos Packages - binary/Packages disks Then it's a static Debian GNU/Linux 0.93R6 for say half a year. Only some updates will go into the updates directory. Users who download 0.93R6 once won't have to check for everything if they want to have a problemless release. They can look at the updates dir. And cdrom vendors don't have the problem that their just pressed cd is outdated just by publishing it. What about 1.0? Ian Murdock told us that it will be fully ELF, so we all have to creat ELF packages? } doc/ [ Shouldn't we merge doc/, info/ and some } info/of project/ ? ] yes! }Does this seem good to people ? Partially Gruesse, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / +49-441-777884 * LoginPasswd: nuucp * Index: ~/ls-lR.gz / / Germany.Net ist vergleichbar mit einem Telefon/ / ohne Waehlscheibe und Klingel... -- Lutz Donnerhacke / 30.10.95: Oldenburger Linux-Stammtisch, ab 20h im DaCapo
Bug#1739: syslog is uncommented in /etc/services by default
Hallo Ian Jackson! }Peter Tobias asks me in email: } Ian Jackson wrote: } Package: netbase } Version: 1.19-1 } } I've now tracked down what it is that keeps reenabling my syslog's } network listening: the netbase package's /etc/services file has syslog } uncommented. } } Commenting out the /etc/services entry is of course a very nasty way } of nixing syslog's usually-undesirable network listening feature, but } we should leave things that way until the syslog package is improved. } } Why do you think it's a bug in the netbase package? This feature (and } the syslog entry in /etc/services) is enabled on the systems that } support it (at least on those I have access to). And I see no problem } having it enabled by default. Anyway, it shouldn't be fixed by } commenting out the syslog service in /etc/services. It should be fixed } in the syslogd package. } }It's a security problem, because it allows any machine anywhere on the }Internet to make your maching completely unusable very easily. syslog }writes its logfiles to disk synchronously, and the logs can fill up }the disk too. Yes. We (the sysklogd developers) found this problem long time ago. Future releases will have a switch (-r) that has to be set if any message should be received from remote. Otherwise the syslogd won't open the socket for reading. This to look in the future... }Most people do not need or want the remote logging feature. That's correct. }It should therefore be disabled by default. dito }I agree that it shouldn't be fixed by commenting out the syslog entry }in /etc/services, but that seems to be the only avenue open at the }moment. Please keep the entry commented out until the syslog package }is fixed. I have one more comment to make. What do you think about an explanatery text when installing the sysklogd package. This could be done in my postinst script (if I'm not mistaken). Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / +49-441-777884 * LoginPasswd: nuucp * Index: ~/ls-lR.gz / / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / /verursacht durch kaputte Gatesoftware auf der CyberBox / 30.10.95: Oldenburger Linux-Stammtisch, ab 20h im DaCapo
Debian Incoming
Hi folks! While uploading a packages just a moment ago, I noticed that files in the Debia Incoming area are of mode 666. So everyone can overwrite them. :-( I noticed it because unfortunately while uploading the connection timed out and normally I am not able to overwrite the empty file, but here I was. I think it would be much better if new files are of mode 644 or 600. What do you think? This behaviour can be easily specified in the ftpaccess file with the following line: # Upload is only allowed to /incoming. All files will be owned by # ftpadmin.ftp with file mod 0644. # upload ~ftp /debian/private/project/Incoming yes ftpadmin ftp 0600 dirs Cheers Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / +49-441-777884 * LoginPasswd: nuucp * Index: ~/ls-lR.gz / /Erfahrung ist eine n|tzliche Sache / / Leider macht man sie immer erst kurz nachdem man sie brauchte / 30.10.95: Oldenburger Linux-Stammtisch, ab 20h im DaCapo
Bug#1708: passwd' not interruptible when invoked by `adduser'
Hello Ian Jackson!
}Package: adduser? miscutils?
}Version: adduser (1.94-1), miscutils (1.3-2)
No. libc.
}If I run adduser, and then decide to abort after having been presented
}with the password prompt, I can't do it with ^C. passwd apparently
}ignores ^C, and ^D simply produces another passwd prompt. Presumably
}I would have to type in a password twice to escape; instead, I used
}another terminal and killed the adduser process.
Because I have heavily modified the passwd program in the last days I
checked this report...
The reason is not in the adduser nor in the miscutils (or util-linux
where my passwd comes from). It's in the libc itself.
The passwd programm just makes a system call:
-- [passwd.c]
pwdstr = getpass(Enter new password: );
if (pwdstr[0] == '\0') {
puts(Password not changed.);
exit(1);
}
--
Looking at the source of libc you'll find the code that is responsible
for disabling ^C:
-- [getpass.c] ---
ttyb.c_lflag = ~(ECHO|ISIG);
ioctl(fileno(tty), TCSETS, ttyb);
--
The above code (from util-linux) will accept an empty password
(generated with ^D) - and won't change anything. For me this is a
correct behaviour - I can live with that.
I haven't looked at the passwd program that is used by Debian.
So far,
Joey
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Bug#1713: procps: manpage doesn't tell the truth
Package: procps
Version: 0.97
Package_Revision: 4
The manpage ps(1) tells us:
--- happs 8--
COMMAND-LINE OPTIONS
Command line arguments may optionally be preceeded by a
'-', but there is no need for it. There are also some
long options in GNU style; see below for those.
(..)
wwide output: don't truncate command lines to fit on
one line.
--- happs 8--
But ps does something else. You may specify up to three 'w's in the
command line and you'll only understand the behaviour if you look at
the code:
--- happs 8--
int set_maxcmd(int w_opts)
{
struct winsize win;
maxcols = 80;
if (ioctl(1, TIOCGWINSZ, win) != -1 win.ws_col 0)
maxcols = win.ws_col;
switch (w_opts) {
case 0: break;
case 1: maxcols += 52; break;
case 2: maxcols *= 2; break;
default: maxcols = MAXCMD;
}
return maxcols - strlen(hdrs[CL_fmt]) + 7;
}
--- happs 8--
I would recommend a) change the manpage entry or b) change the whole
handling of 'w'-processing. If the maintainer is interested, I can
send him a patch for the latter
Regards,
Joey
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