Re: [Soc-coordination] Google Summer of Code 2009: Debian's Shortlist

2009-04-11 Thread Mateusz 'Matthew' Marek
Hello

2009/4/10 Obey Arthur Liu art...@milliways.fr:
 * KDE/Qt4 Adept 3.0 Package Manager:
 Petr Rockai, the original developer of Adept has offered help to anyone
 willing to adopt Adept. Sune Vuorela has offered help for any Qt4 and
 KDE related issues. *We really need a mentor here*. The student is quite
 competent but Google dictates that we provide a mentor to handle student
 management.

I want to ask someone for stay mentor for this project. I think that
this is very important project. Maybe not as aptitude or something
else, but it is still important. Why? someone wants to ask. We have
aptitude, Synaptic, KPackage. OK, but KPackage doesn't support deb
package features (like debconf), I tried use this for some time, but
it has big problems with instaling everything, KPackage tried unistall
half system when I want to install xmms (it was in past, so maybe not
it is fixed, but it show how useless is this application). Synaptic
has problems with dependence. It show error when aptitude install
package without problems (actualy aptitude is still not perfect, in
future I want to make something like OPIUM (Optimal Package
Install/Unistall Manager -
http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1248851 not drug)).
Aptitude-GTK? It use GTK+, not everyone wants to install GTK+, I use
KDE, why I need GTK. Debian is dependence on Gnome? Who cares? I want
KDE, I like KDE, it is big, it is slow, it is like cow, but I sill
prefer KDE that Gnome. Debian is most universal distro I even seen. If
you still want to dependece Debian on Gnome maybe is the moment to
rename Debian to Gebian (like Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu). Actually
aptitude-gtk is still in develope, so only few people try to use this,
but in future before aptitude-qt will start, it takes some time.
Aptitude-ncurses? If there is a person which want to learn Linux, but
for this moment using console for them is too hard why he/she must be
force to use it?

Even if nobody stay mentor for this project I will try make it myself.
Maybe for scratch, maybe I will use OPIUm ideas, maybe I will spend on
this project few years. I don't care, I will make it. OK, but why you
need to do it at GSoC? someone may ask. Because... Google pay for
this. You are idiot, go home! someone may scream. But nobody says
that Open Source mean free. All Open Source programers work for free?
No... Linus, SuSE, Red Hat, I am not sure but few Debian
Developers too.
With money from GSoC I can buy 3-4 years old car in Poland. At GSoC I
must work only week for ticket from Poland to Spain. In my current job
I must work 4 weeks. So it is nothing bad that it is good way to make
money.

I am not competent as Arthur wrote. Actualy I am very lazy and stupid
person. But, as long as I make good job onebody should care about
that. I will make the best I can to finish this project (OK, this
project will never end, but you know what I mean).

So, if is courageous person to stay mentor for this project I will be
very, very grateful.

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[GSoC] KDE4/Qt4 based package manager

2009-03-29 Thread Mateusz 'Matthew' Marek
Hi,

I would be interested in making KDE4/Qt4 based package manager. I am
2nd year student of computer science from Poland (Gdansk University of
Technology, CET/CEST) with some experience in C/C++ and Qt programming
and git as SCM. Currently during my spare time I am working on light
music player in Qt4.5 for Linux (something like foobar2000 for
Windows). I think that it will be possible for me to do that package
manager, if I take some time during the community bounding period to
learn more about Debian package system and reserve my vacation and end
of  time to my vacation and main application.

I think that it will be good idea to make this application only in Qt
(without KDE4). Thanks to that someone who doesn't use KDE could use
this package manager without downloading extra dependeces.
How this package manager should look? I would make it look a bit like
synaptic or shaman (from Chakra). I think that aptitude-gtk and adept
are not userfriendly. Using these applications was quite difficult for
me. This kind of program is aimed at beginners, so we must make
everything to try make package installing with this tool as simple as
possible.
That's why I think the best way to make Qt4 based package manager is
make it from scratch.

If you have any questions, just send me an email. I have problem with
writing in English, but I hope that content of this email is clear for
you.

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