Re: Should gnome-libs die for Lenny?
Barry deFreese schreef: Hi folks, There are only 5 packages left that have reverse depends on gnome-libs packages. They are as follows: digitaldj: Removal request was filed but maintainer claims someone has done a Gtk2 port and saved it for now. I thought this was a post-lenny thing anyway, but if there's only so few packages left, I'm tempted to not obstruct the removal of gnome-libs for digitaldj. Lets say I try to get an upload with the GTK2 patch within a week or so, would the new digitaldj sitll be allowed in to lenny? [Johannes is the patch in such a state that we could do that?] grts Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR
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Re: Packages still depending on GTK+ 1.2
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:06:26 +0100 Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] digitaldj = prokyon3 It still works, some people still use it... so I do not see any need to remove it now. If the time comes to remove gtk+1.2, digitaldj can go too IYAM. I'm not using it anymore, and certainly do not have the time to port it. grts Tim signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Packages still depending on GTK+ 1.2
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:42:08 +0100 (CET) Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, Josselin Mouette wrote: As this reaction is quite common, maybe I should make things more clear. * Yes, GTK+ 1.2 is going away before the squeeze release. * If everyone says “I’m going to remove my pet package when it is the last one”, it is obvious that we are never going to remove it. I don't read Tim's message like this. I read: Just remove GTK+ 1.2 and once this is done my pet package becomes RC buggy. The fix for the bug is removing the package. That's quite simple and Tim in this message agrees to this procedure (as well as I did). Indeed, that is what Tim meant to write;) grts Tim signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Accepted uswsusp 0.8-1 (source i386)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:22:26 +0200 Source: uswsusp Binary: uswsusp Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.8-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: uswsusp- tools to use userspace software suspend provided by Linux Closes: 443434 443677 443818 444810 448450 448484 448536 450680 451249 452030 457963 458308 458566 458566 459844 467109 470314 470578 470861 471120 473160 474389 475367 487656 489939 490568 491418 Changes: uswsusp (0.8-1) unstable; urgency=low . [ Michael Biebl ] * New upstream release (closes: #459844). . [ Tim Dijkstra ] * The Sorry this took so long, but a baby and a house got in the way - release * Add patch for LFS (closes: #451249) * Remove use of grep in initramfs (closes: #443434) * New models in the whitelist (closes: #473160, #467109, #475367, #448484, #458566, #458566, #470314, #487656, #444810) * Ask shutdown_method at low priority (closes: #448536) * Change CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND to CONFIG_HIBERNATION (closes: #452030, #470861) * Update whitelist for MacBook1,1 (closes: #458308) * Make CLI arguments consistent, update manpages (closes: #471120) * Document shutdown_method (closes: #490568) * Debconf translation updates (closes: #470578, #491418, #489939) Thanks: Vincent Zweije [nl], Martin Ågren [sv], Hideki Yamane [jp] * Do not hang when user supplies an empty passphrase. Thanks Mikko Rapeli for the patch. (closes: #457963) * Fix typo in README (closes: #448450) * Remove libzf licence from copyright file (closes: #474389) * Disable erroneous comress ratio output. This is fixed upstream by now, but it's not worth the trouble backporting IMHO. (closes: #443677, #443818) * Disable improved key handeling patch. This version is not working anymore. New version is applied upstream, no time for backporting before lenny, sorry. * Remove hack for devfs style node names (closes: #450680) Checksums-Sha1: 95620756f5a30503ef3a3d59c076875162a9bcce 1162 uswsusp_0.8-1.dsc acc9fb8f85d35f3e12c8406be1e958fc67ece01c 414135 uswsusp_0.8.orig.tar.gz 4dff5467115d79e89c23b9da9e6973dd89706e85 149864 uswsusp_0.8-1.diff.gz 96227d3337934c15ee1cde9c30b807a6bfa28f50 153938 uswsusp_0.8-1_i386.deb Checksums-Sha256: eca18c72faf09445ebcaeadef56d58c9a6da724bf56809d67c8c8cd0cb0a0a3f 1162 uswsusp_0.8-1.dsc a5ee1dcfeb05e9c2a63583d7518065d42dc83264144359a2456fd8b9c71e63ee 414135 uswsusp_0.8.orig.tar.gz 2de2e9c3f2428f81eac88680587cd17b9d9379191024c1286a4be0c9267725f0 149864 uswsusp_0.8-1.diff.gz d6e80f1de75863e97ccc91613c3d69a7ad0bc896ef29c595851fb852a8addbbe 153938 uswsusp_0.8-1_i386.deb Files: b016937d3f72297544dd0d6ec26305d4 1162 admin optional uswsusp_0.8-1.dsc c81817b2ba2be899cdb32c00de016bff 414135 admin optional uswsusp_0.8.orig.tar.gz 8c94adb41542bb0c152c9a4378a4241c 149864 admin optional uswsusp_0.8-1.diff.gz fea7d908a37cf7d9d64be40f470c0f0d 153938 admin optional uswsusp_0.8-1_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkiTgHQACgkQlR+JLH/tVJutWQCfX2vgTqZv8LWAkVNjbgAjKCaS CwMAoM9qkWxme2Drmzb1q5o2SEUs8TTP =rPm2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: uswsusp_0.8-1.diff.gz to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.8-1.diff.gz uswsusp_0.8-1.dsc to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.8-1.dsc uswsusp_0.8-1_i386.deb to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.8-1_i386.deb uswsusp_0.8.orig.tar.gz to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.8.orig.tar.gz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#438665: Orphaned packages with quite some users
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 09:11:33 +0100 Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 01 Nov 2007, Michael Biebl wrote: Given that acpi-support is going to be deprecated in favor of pm-utils/hal [1] I'd rather see acpi-support removed from the laptop-task completely. [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PMUtilsSpec I'm all for this if this is possible. acpi-support has always meant to be a temporary set of hacks to make things work. Given that it's planned for next LTS release of Ubuntu it should be compatible with the Lenny schedule. Tim, what do you think of the principle ? Would you be ready to prepare such replacements package in experimental (either working directly with Ubuntu or reintegrating their work once they did it) ? I never really looked at acpi-support because for the laptops I have, I had no use for it. pm-utils now, is mostly some glue between HAL and s2disk/s2ram, all be it with possibility to hook in all kind of hacks. Reading the wiki page above, there is some functionality not present in pm-utils (yet). When this is added to pm-utils, of course I'll integrate it. I'm kind of busy right now to pick-up porting acpi-support functionality to pm-utils. And if the Ubuntu people want to do that, I'm all for it;) grts Tim signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Accepted uswsusp 0.7-1 (source i386)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:18:46 +0200 Source: uswsusp Binary: uswsusp Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.7-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: uswsusp- tools to use userspace software suspend provided by Linux Closes: 411061 432018 434630 434667 436064 436534 439433 439928 441186 441310 Changes: uswsusp (0.7-1) unstable; urgency=low . * New upstream. For the impatient: this closes: #441310. * We now depend on liblzo2 for compression, this means we remove liblz from the source package. * We can now stop suspend while using libsplashy (closes: #411061) * Updated s2ram manpage. * Add debconf translation (closes: #434667) * Updated whitelist (closes: #432018, 434630, 436064) * Fixed bad English (closes: #436534) * Some people think debian needs a capital (closes: #441186) * Change docs to use the name of the configuration file in debian (closes: #439928) * Document lack of yaird support (closes: #439433) * Call update-initramfs without `-k all' * Document that change in NEWS Files: 913925cf5a963d12b4dfbe6a327c2eaa 712 admin optional uswsusp_0.7-1.dsc ecc1b0f1bc59eebd1328390e6612c7a4 107669 admin optional uswsusp_0.7.orig.tar.gz 4524c46c593a9be9bc6c0109d97b7a80 55099 admin optional uswsusp_0.7-1.diff.gz e478a224a46c4c3eb93aac788f14f1bf 167968 admin optional uswsusp_0.7-1_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFG7nZuLqiZQEml+FURAnm+AJ0XwOmOHaZNKx1qPlBMR8ZpErDYdQCfdfxx 7zX3lwqdmG8DGocUUW9DEk4= =RYXx -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: uswsusp_0.7-1.diff.gz to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.7-1.diff.gz uswsusp_0.7-1.dsc to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.7-1.dsc uswsusp_0.7-1_i386.deb to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.7-1_i386.deb uswsusp_0.7.orig.tar.gz to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.7.orig.tar.gz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accepted splashy 0.3.5 (source i386)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:56:30 +0200 Source: splashy Binary: libsplashy1-dev splashy libsplashy1 Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.3.5 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Splashy Devel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: libsplashy1 - Library to draw splash screen on boot, shutdown, resume or suspen libsplashy1-dev - Library to draw splash screen on boot, shutdown, resume or suspen splashy- A complete user-space boot splash system Closes: 433382 Changes: splashy (0.3.5) unstable; urgency=low . * /etc/lsb-base-logging.sh: GDM wouldn't start if splashy wasn't running (closes: #433382) Files: 58b35d13951eaeba47c966bade6d15a5 900 graphics optional splashy_0.3.5.dsc 6d6f8192b5d607c2a338094afec31354 1580695 graphics optional splashy_0.3.5.tar.gz 1c2c5e3548187a8b3f3eca6376434bd4 2094820 graphics optional splashy_0.3.5_i386.deb b71df42ab177213ab948dbec868cb20b 25178 libs optional libsplashy1_0.3.5_i386.deb dee92a42243607766daf990dba73bb5b 26546 libdevel optional libsplashy1-dev_0.3.5_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGnowtLqiZQEml+FURAjl3AJ0YEQnckPZf2M1eKW5/KOOPocYYQACfcBah lC+9DjaV6R7Rh95LaIBtxbU= =LAnb -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: libsplashy1-dev_0.3.5_i386.deb to pool/main/s/splashy/libsplashy1-dev_0.3.5_i386.deb libsplashy1_0.3.5_i386.deb to pool/main/s/splashy/libsplashy1_0.3.5_i386.deb splashy_0.3.5.dsc to pool/main/s/splashy/splashy_0.3.5.dsc splashy_0.3.5.tar.gz to pool/main/s/splashy/splashy_0.3.5.tar.gz splashy_0.3.5_i386.deb to pool/main/s/splashy/splashy_0.3.5_i386.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accepted pm-utils 0.99.2-3 (source all)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:31:53 +0200 Source: pm-utils Binary: pm-utils Architecture: source all Version: 0.99.2-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: pm-utils - utilities and scripts for power management Closes: 427254 433179 Changes: pm-utils (0.99.2-3) unstable; urgency=low . * Support modules/serices with dashes (closes: #433179) * Fix config file parser (closes: #427254) Files: e2769d4df42dcde838a20d08f384506c 788 admin optional pm-utils_0.99.2-3.dsc b937ee0dea54a0545e125fbd6735f6fd 11434 admin optional pm-utils_0.99.2-3.diff.gz e1b240af1db589b7bf8b6de828e6c6d7 21778 admin optional pm-utils_0.99.2-3_all.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGm9q+h7PER70FhVQRAtU9AKCjKjx+oV+gdsOjp27FjLtE6bReRwCgnyBl RNdZ0Jz765IbJSyKmIlpmpU= =aH6d -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: pm-utils_0.99.2-3.diff.gz to pool/main/p/pm-utils/pm-utils_0.99.2-3.diff.gz pm-utils_0.99.2-3.dsc to pool/main/p/pm-utils/pm-utils_0.99.2-3.dsc pm-utils_0.99.2-3_all.deb to pool/main/p/pm-utils/pm-utils_0.99.2-3_all.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accepted splashy 0.3.4 (source i386)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 12:38:14 +0200 Source: splashy Binary: libsplashy1-dev splashy libsplashy1 Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.3.4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Splashy Devel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: libsplashy1 - Library to draw splash screen on boot, shutdown, resume or suspen libsplashy1-dev - Library to draw splash screen on boot, shutdown, resume or suspen splashy- A complete user-space boot splash system Closes: 421441 422070 424567 424732 Changes: splashy (0.3.4) unstable; urgency=low . * Conflict with usplash (closes: #424732) * Stop splashy before ?dm starts (closes: 421441) * Fix FTBFS with gcc-4.2 (closes: 424567) * Mention website in README.Debian (closes: #422070) Files: 0493d7f203c2f178e5eb05b74c223b41 900 graphics optional splashy_0.3.4.dsc 5bfee0fe80cf16153919a8913a48ecc0 1581136 graphics optional splashy_0.3.4.tar.gz a25cd3677c2756ff5a4cfe9e6e8a 2094864 graphics optional splashy_0.3.4_i386.deb 786e1238d83e1e22946ea62681a381d3 25130 libs optional libsplashy1_0.3.4_i386.deb 0e1605d0fc21ef7ef8d62f117a91c00e 26510 libdevel optional libsplashy1-dev_0.3.4_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGmoxzLqiZQEml+FURAjluAJ92rIpJ6pWg3mSfCwrVE0jqpeJkIwCgntpO Tn9nY+zB07fTshDdJP+uk7U= =bT8s -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: libsplashy1-dev_0.3.4_i386.deb to pool/main/s/splashy/libsplashy1-dev_0.3.4_i386.deb libsplashy1_0.3.4_i386.deb to pool/main/s/splashy/libsplashy1_0.3.4_i386.deb splashy_0.3.4.dsc to pool/main/s/splashy/splashy_0.3.4.dsc splashy_0.3.4.tar.gz to pool/main/s/splashy/splashy_0.3.4.tar.gz splashy_0.3.4_i386.deb to pool/main/s/splashy/splashy_0.3.4_i386.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accepted pm-utils 0.99.2-2 (source all)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 22:41:06 +0200 Source: pm-utils Binary: pm-utils Architecture: source all Version: 0.99.2-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: pm-utils - utilities and scripts for power management Closes: 422745 425282 427052 427253 431551 Changes: pm-utils (0.99.2-2) unstable; urgency=low . * Make --hibernate test in pm-is-supported less strict so we can support suspend2 too (closes: #422745) * pm-action: Fix pm-suspend-hybrid support (closes: 427253) * Add some more words to the pm-action manpage (closes: #425282) * Don't install useless NEWS file (closes: #431551) * Add support for NO_QUIRKS from HAL. Now we can distinguish between `no quirks' and 'unknown' (closes: #427052) Files: a655fbb2c8c01f4af4e0dbcadeeb0cf4 788 admin optional pm-utils_0.99.2-2.dsc 969c7ee5e2e9324f12eb0dbab2fe62a8 10806 admin optional pm-utils_0.99.2-2.diff.gz 329d8b8eee18e31be845ba5d0789b95f 21804 admin optional pm-utils_0.99.2-2_all.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGmUYvh7PER70FhVQRAmllAKCXiAv98ZVFikxVnVM2pHjLG4zdwQCfQkwH 4Fd5n3Crw+/YnsOCi4W3g0k= =zyFS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: pm-utils_0.99.2-2.diff.gz to pool/main/p/pm-utils/pm-utils_0.99.2-2.diff.gz pm-utils_0.99.2-2.dsc to pool/main/p/pm-utils/pm-utils_0.99.2-2.dsc pm-utils_0.99.2-2_all.deb to pool/main/p/pm-utils/pm-utils_0.99.2-2_all.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accepted uswsusp 0.6~cvs20070618-1 (source i386)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:27:53 +0200 Source: uswsusp Binary: uswsusp Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.6~cvs20070618-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: uswsusp- tools to use userspace software suspend provided by Linux Closes: 410860 426878 Changes: uswsusp (0.6~cvs20070618-1) unstable; urgency=low . * Update debconf translation (closes: #426878) Thanks: Clytie Siddall [vi] * Update whitelist * Fix s2ram --test * Really, really remove obsolete init script (closes: #410860) * Make s2ram --test exit with 0 for succes and 1 for fail Files: 580459ed50ded4129a8f7667a153f099 735 admin optional uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070618-1.dsc 88ee8573480449c5e8e726bf5d08b196 148564 admin optional uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070618.orig.tar.gz f7d90f618e45bef9d3f2add68b6ef90e 50853 admin optional uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070618-1.diff.gz b9d5d2a48c0db9d89884dbf4768435c9 160712 admin optional uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070618-1_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGd7Tah7PER70FhVQRAi8cAJsGEM/WeMq/gaQQZtqYNseiryYtJwCfZd8W ylvs99qg236iGzODDVaBbgQ= =S/yI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070618-1.diff.gz to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070618-1.diff.gz uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070618-1.dsc to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070618-1.dsc uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070618-1_i386.deb to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070618-1_i386.deb uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070618.orig.tar.gz to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070618.orig.tar.gz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#425050: initramfs-tools: Ask if we should update all initramfses
Please cc: the bug report On Sun, 20 May 2007 16:35:27 +0200 David Härdeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 11:08:02AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: They can set their debconf priority. It's not something to avoid, adding debconf questions Anyway, I propose that update-initramfs just loses the -k switch or provides a new wrapper that packages like cryptsetup and mdadm just call without worrying whether it will update all initrds or just the current one. I agree...use a debconf or config file option, then let packages call update-initramfs with a new option (let's call it -p) and the option will be automatically honoured so that one or all initramfs images are rebuilt. That seems sensible to me. Maximilian, what do you think? Is this acceptable to you? grts Tim signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: update-initramfs -k all -u
On Sat, 19 May 2007 00:23:08 +0200 David Härdeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 04:41:41PM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 09:12:15AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: Good point. Thus it looks like there is no right way [...] How about making the use of -k all configurable? The point I was trying to make before is that the decision whether -k all is sane or not can only be decided per package (and perhaps even per revision). That sounds reasonable, but unfortunately you can't. If I (as the uswsusp maitainer) decide to use '-k all' your package gets installed to the initramfs anyway. So this is really something we should agree on for all packages at same time. As it seems we can't agree that's why I think using the users preference is the best we can do. BTW, I was reading about `triggers' on the dpkg-list a while back. Update-initramfs seems like a perfect use case. Updating all initramfses three times in one dpkg run, just because initrfamfs-tools, uswsusp and cryptsetup get updated at the same time is not funny... grts Tim signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: update-initramfs -k all -u
On Fri, 18 May 2007 16:41:41 +0200 Gabor Gombas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 09:12:15AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: Good point. Thus it looks like there is no right way [...] How about making the use of -k all configurable? That seems like a good idea... but what would be the default? grts Tim signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Accepted digitaldj 0.7.5-6 (source i386)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 23:04:45 +0200 Source: digitaldj Binary: digitaldj Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.7.5-6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: digitaldj - An SQL based mp3 player front-end Closes: 376772 413937 420943 Changes: digitaldj (0.7.5-6) unstable; urgency=low . * Use CLOCKS_PER_SEC instead of deprecated CLK_TCK (closes: 376772, 420943) * Apply patch to make digitaldj build on freebsd (closes: 413937) * Update to policy version 3.7.2 * Update watch file Files: e18b95594417fbabacf48e6732f8c1cc 674 sound extra digitaldj_0.7.5-6.dsc d1e2279e006e1d6cb0ec6b1c15adbb2b 28212 sound extra digitaldj_0.7.5-6.diff.gz 02b07ae21ea0041ae5b9655e4c4e777e 82400 sound extra digitaldj_0.7.5-6_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGTfVkh7PER70FhVQRAkpyAJ9Z9JtLafGCOkyznwQs1KlRkfns5QCfdcHt GZwA+W9bNnSxRJrNSjbMeAg= =lUcx -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: digitaldj_0.7.5-6.diff.gz to pool/main/d/digitaldj/digitaldj_0.7.5-6.diff.gz digitaldj_0.7.5-6.dsc to pool/main/d/digitaldj/digitaldj_0.7.5-6.dsc digitaldj_0.7.5-6_i386.deb to pool/main/d/digitaldj/digitaldj_0.7.5-6_i386.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accepted uswsusp 0.6~cvs20070513-1 (source i386)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 22:38:04 +0200 Source: uswsusp Binary: uswsusp Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.6~cvs20070513-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: uswsusp- tools to use userspace software suspend provided by Linux Closes: 404316 410860 411727 411751 413309 416475 417890 421714 421718 423204 Changes: uswsusp (0.6~cvs20070513-1) unstable; urgency=low . * New cvs snapshot * Update whitelist (closes: #413309, #416475) * Remove obsolete init.d file (closes: #410860) * New debconf translations (closes: #411751) Thanks: Rui Branco [pt] * Update initramfs for all kernel versions (closes: #404316) * Update debconf translations (closes: #417890) Thanks: Eddy PetriÈor [ro] * Forward port workaround for d-i using devfs style device names this (closes: #411727) for sid. * Build against libx86-dev instead of private copy * Add powerpc support * Add poweroff as a valid shutdown method for s2disk/s2both * Build against new libsplashy (closes: #423204, #421718) * Use libsplashy resume mode on resume so the progressbar can run in the other direction (closes: #421714) Files: 89bc575609846d041daca1821a075ce0 733 admin optional uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070513-1.dsc eca83a79d271a3220512726fbe9570dc 147617 admin optional uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070513.orig.tar.gz ce1a893c65d71202ad57d26dba94f6ef 51386 admin optional uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070513-1.diff.gz 28fedf9e551adce4d8c6ce0897362209 158696 admin optional uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070513-1_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGTfY3h7PER70FhVQRAsprAJ9BkUtblc2Nt/eImsHK/4AXoQsxyACgwwad ZRcTssxo7Xvn10wqL5zY03M= =zJ6m -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070513-1.diff.gz to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070513-1.diff.gz uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070513-1.dsc to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070513-1.dsc uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070513-1_i386.deb to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070513-1_i386.deb uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070513.orig.tar.gz to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070513.orig.tar.gz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFC: initramfs-tools postinst causes system inconsistency?
On Tue, 15 May 2007 23:54:02 +0200 maximilian attems [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'd appreciate if you post such questions to the corresponding development mailing list which is debian-kernel for initramfs questions. thanks Current pratice is to only call `update-initramfs -u', that is, to only update the most recent initramfs. This however will break older initramfses (I have had bugreports). Now I plan to switch to running with '-k all' (all initramfses), but this of course will also influence=20 the packages that ran with '-u' only. afaik uswsusp does not support full 2.6.15 range, so better stay on the safe side. Uswsusp will refuse to suspend or resume with kernels it won't support, so that's OK. grts Tim signature.asc Description: PGP signature
update-initramfs -k all -u
Hi, I maintain uswsusp. It is a package that relies on a binary on the initramfs that will start the resume process. This binary (and some other stuff) get installed via an update-initramfs call in the postinst. On some updates, the new binary that suspends the system is incompatible with the old resume binary on the initramfs, hence a update-initramfs call is required. So far so good. Current pratice is to only call `update-initramfs -u', that is, to only update the most recent initramfs. This however will break older initramfses (I have had bugreports). Now I plan to switch to running with '-k all' (all initramfses), but this of course will also influence the packages that ran with '-u' only. Now what do people think is the best option? (And why?) grts Tim signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Announce: DebianArt.org
On Wed, 9 May 2007 17:49:18 -0300 André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, The user can put the follows categories: - Wallpaper - Splash screen - Icon - System sound - Logo - Usplash - T-shirt - Screenshot - Generic What do you think? We think this is one of the available ways for a best desktop It would be nice if someone could make some nice splash themes for splashy;) It supports different splash screens during boot, shutdown, hibernate and resume. grts Tim signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Accepted splashy 0.3.3 (source i386)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:38:09 +0100 Source: splashy Binary: libsplashy1-dev splashy libsplashy1 Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.3.3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Splashy Devel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: libsplashy1 - Library to draw splash screen on boot, shutdown, resume or suspen libsplashy1-dev - Library to draw splash screen on boot, shutdown, resume or suspen splashy- A complete user-space boot splash system Closes: 411062 411523 Changes: splashy (0.3.3) unstable; urgency=low . * Add debhelper token to preinst * Splashy depends on lsb-base (closes: #411062) * libsplashy depends on libdirectfb-extra, needed for png support (closes: #411523) * Add XS-Vcs-* and Homepage fields to debian/control * init_splashy in libsplashy has changed, bump soname. Files: 3987a3886a1551d1614cc13af91b7935 900 graphics optional splashy_0.3.3.dsc b0e4c74cbb339d1d974d614e8973c7bb 1578579 graphics optional splashy_0.3.3.tar.gz 3482e887a8e0a0c0f85b50d7ee798590 2102586 graphics optional splashy_0.3.3_i386.deb 8e5e14f530c5ef17cfc5c20b2e93b3c2 25132 libs optional libsplashy1_0.3.3_i386.deb d81f6a726cc182732048e6e38f6f3c7a 26626 libdevel optional libsplashy1-dev_0.3.3_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGLpyzLqiZQEml+FURAvl3AJ9pEfA0bV7lzLM8+O51IoWVO7ia+wCghF2x HLmErZ4C5mnp2wNAKsujRgM= =wb15 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: libsplashy1-dev_0.3.3_i386.deb to pool/main/s/splashy/libsplashy1-dev_0.3.3_i386.deb libsplashy1_0.3.3_i386.deb to pool/main/s/splashy/libsplashy1_0.3.3_i386.deb splashy_0.3.3.dsc to pool/main/s/splashy/splashy_0.3.3.dsc splashy_0.3.3.tar.gz to pool/main/s/splashy/splashy_0.3.3.tar.gz splashy_0.3.3_i386.deb to pool/main/s/splashy/splashy_0.3.3_i386.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accepted pm-utils 0.99.2-1 (source all)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:48:19 +0200 Source: pm-utils Binary: pm-utils Architecture: source all Version: 0.99.2-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: pm-utils - utilities and scripts for power management Closes: 389817 Changes: pm-utils (0.99.2-1) unstable; urgency=low . [ Michael Biebl ] * Initial release (Closes: #389817). * Do not install on_ac_power binary. Instead depend on powermgmt-base package. . [ Tim Dijkstra ] * Support for `s2ram' for hal = 0.5.9 * First stab at suspend-hybrid support * Do not install pm-pmu, it is hack for old kernels (older than the one in etch) which is also present in the s2ram binary if needed. * Do not install pm-reset-swap, it has bugs and is superflous since swapon in debian has similar functionality. * Recommend vbetool and radeontool (not depend on it) else pm-utils won't be installable on anything but x86_* * Add manpages. Files: 228e87a4d74d4f43cfc99f2b1bb0a732 787 admin optional pm-utils_0.99.2-1.dsc ad1f474f5d434754d2260d850cee2a68 124453 admin optional pm-utils_0.99.2.orig.tar.gz bb70eff5fff786bc86fb13ec4133f34c 9936 admin optional pm-utils_0.99.2-1.diff.gz 369ed173bd5179421b79332603da31f5 21200 admin optional pm-utils_0.99.2-1_all.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGMDyzh7PER70FhVQRAi/tAKDBv+wCJr51Aoq8PHfL2OAMpgty/gCfYSak 3tEOkJjhf7cWgmZhskt4xAk= =IETU -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: pm-utils_0.99.2-1.diff.gz to pool/main/p/pm-utils/pm-utils_0.99.2-1.diff.gz pm-utils_0.99.2-1.dsc to pool/main/p/pm-utils/pm-utils_0.99.2-1.dsc pm-utils_0.99.2-1_all.deb to pool/main/p/pm-utils/pm-utils_0.99.2-1_all.deb pm-utils_0.99.2.orig.tar.gz to pool/main/p/pm-utils/pm-utils_0.99.2.orig.tar.gz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LSB init scripts
On Thu, 03 May 2007 18:13:25 -0700 Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On to, 2007-05-03 at 13:39 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: My ideal output format would just list subsystem OK While we're daydreaming, I'd like an empty screen with a timer counting down how long (in seconds) I have until I can actually use the machine. Unless there's a problem, of course, in which case I want all the info I need to debug things. One of the great parts of using a library to handle the output formatting is that people who want this sort of boot presentation (or anything else, really) can then develop themes that do exactly what they want. Splashy is indeed already using that functionality. It installs a file /etc/lsb-base-logging.sh, which is their to override functions from the LSB library. It increments a progress bar triggered by calls to log_end_msg made from init-scripts. That way we don't need change the initscripts or install extra scripts, we get out info from all scripts that use the LSB library. grts Tim signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:53:42 +0200 Johannes Wiedersich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For laptops brand/model would be nice, although it probably will be difficult or impossible to include that in an automated fashion. No it wouldn't. Most laptops have usable information in their smbios which. See dmidecode(8). grts Tim signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Slow package database
On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 11:10:55 +0200 Christoph Haas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anything that I can do about it? Tuning the ext3 partition? Or is somebody capable of turning the info directory into - say - an sqlite database or in future Debian releases? There is a thread on debian-dpkg about this, even with a proof of concept: http://people.debian.org/~seanius/dpkg-sqlite/ grts Tim signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Bug#417261: dch: please use dates in UTC
On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 15:49:54 +0200 Stefano Zacchiroli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 03:31:37PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: That is not really a valid reason either because converting a timestamp from a changelog entry to any other timezone or format is trivial: $ D=$(zgrep ^ -- /usr/share/doc/apt/changelog.Debian.gz | \ head -1 | sed s/^.* //) $ date -uRd $D Trivial is something I can do without having the need of thinking about an implementation of it. I guess you spent a couple of minutes writing the above shell script snippet. I think every person that reads a changelog can do the math for each entry by hand in a fraction of a second... But of course you're right in stating that it's possible and it's not a big deal to do the conversion. My question is: what's the benefit of localized timestamps? I want to know if the only reason we have is: just because it's nice. It is added information. For example it is useful to know that somebody uploaded at 03:12 in _his timezone_, if he/she made it so late, it probably worth double checking it before you install;) grts Tim signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Accepted splashy-themes 0.4 (source all)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:26:23 +0100 Source: splashy-themes Binary: splashy-themes Architecture: source all Version: 0.4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Splashy Devel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: splashy-themes - A complete user-space boot splash system Closes: 413099 Changes: splashy-themes (0.4) unstable; urgency=low . [ k0fman ] * Converted all images from jpg to png (closes: #413099) . [ Tim Dijkstra ] * Move debian/ into splashy-themes * Remove some cruft from debian/ Files: 0c197e79855996848ade63a17ee041e8 682 graphics optional splashy-themes_0.4.dsc e7832548e1eed5cd70d553ea6928a689 4002379 graphics optional splashy-themes_0.4.tar.gz 050a3fcbbf3c12c787be74dfa2ce8ff5 3942534 graphics optional splashy-themes_0.4_all.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF7KjeLqiZQEml+FURAjACAJ9H+SG6RqGrNfm6bNPrgde0QH7PQACfT5ty L8u8AbIYeo8GQ+E4qOoehSE= =C01l -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: splashy-themes_0.4.dsc to pool/main/s/splashy-themes/splashy-themes_0.4.dsc splashy-themes_0.4.tar.gz to pool/main/s/splashy-themes/splashy-themes_0.4.tar.gz splashy-themes_0.4_all.deb to pool/main/s/splashy-themes/splashy-themes_0.4_all.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accepted splashy 0.3.2 (source i386)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 00:39:39 +0100 Source: splashy Binary: libsplashy0-dev splashy libsplashy0 Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.3.2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Splashy Devel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: libsplashy0 - Library to draw splash screen on boot, shutdown, resume or suspen libsplashy0-dev - Library to draw splash screen on boot, shutdown, resume or suspen splashy- A complete user-space boot splash system Closes: 410623 410861 410896 410897 410898 Changes: splashy (0.3.2) unstable; urgency=low . The 'mbiebl is our favorite beta-tester' release . [ Tim Dijkstra ] * Start /etc/init.d/splashy after we have /proc. That is at S03. also first remove the links in postinst. We have changed the location. (closes: #410897, #410623, #410861) * Really remove splashy-init. (closes: #410898) * Source lsb functions before using them (closes: #410896) * Fix autogen.sh to also accept automake 10 * Install the right /etc/default/splashy * Don't fade in the default theme * initramfs-tools/hooks/libsplashy: don't yell if uswsusp.conf is not there Files: 8feccc417673e00421e7b350c135f251 796 graphics optional splashy_0.3.2.dsc 9581a5ff78b57c54269d3cda0cdd8b39 1578450 graphics optional splashy_0.3.2.tar.gz 1bcacb6b2939a68a46a140b55fe3bfda 2048268 graphics optional splashy_0.3.2_i386.deb cea0d68d3b2d526ace92ee3bff09408a 24896 libs optional libsplashy0_0.3.2_i386.deb 61b27ad9378966e83f2c16d376308cac 26412 libdevel optional libsplashy0-dev_0.3.2_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF06jELqiZQEml+FURAnAdAKCFxlVLNaQpg1IqoNpYyqqC5uj3ywCgqCSP jxg8ltwhdC/wFcN8R+TWLpg= =WopH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: libsplashy0-dev_0.3.2_i386.deb to pool/main/s/splashy/libsplashy0-dev_0.3.2_i386.deb libsplashy0_0.3.2_i386.deb to pool/main/s/splashy/libsplashy0_0.3.2_i386.deb splashy_0.3.2.dsc to pool/main/s/splashy/splashy_0.3.2.dsc splashy_0.3.2.tar.gz to pool/main/s/splashy/splashy_0.3.2.tar.gz splashy_0.3.2_i386.deb to pool/main/s/splashy/splashy_0.3.2_i386.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accepted splashy 0.3.1 (source i386)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:12:15 +0100 Source: splashy Binary: libsplashy0-dev splashy libsplashy0 Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.3.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Splashy Devel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: libsplashy0 - Library to draw splash screen on boot, shutdown, resume or suspen libsplashy0-dev - Library to draw splash screen on boot, shutdown, resume or suspen splashy- A complete user-space boot splash system Closes: 410348 410395 410662 Changes: splashy (0.3.1) unstable; urgency=low . [ Otavio Salvador ] * Disable JPEG support since doesn't make sense since we already do for GIF and PNG: - debian/control: libsplashy0 doesn't need libdirectfb-extra anymore; - src/Makefile.am: . remove jpeg com directfb-config calls; . remove JPEG symbols from DFBHACK variable; - themes/default: . convert all jpeg files to png; . themes.xml changed according; - Makefile.am: change theme files according; - scripts/initramfs-tools/hooks/libsplashy.in: remove jpeg library; * debian/rules: create make-snapshot target to be easier to make development snapshots; . [ Tim Dijkstra ] * Add libsplashy to the depends of libsplashy-dev (closes: #410348) * Fix 64bit build (Use socklen_t instead of size_t) (closes: #410395) * Make init script trigger on (no)splash on the kernel command line (closes: #410662) * Remove GIF support too. * Add a suspend.png image. Files: 026571c8911fb6e2f2ddf6903d719669 796 graphics optional splashy_0.3.1.dsc 8db53b0e91f8236b53a3db9f52a2e18b 1578267 graphics optional splashy_0.3.1.tar.gz 10a134a02a365e2b178b6611c90e47c1 2047192 graphics optional splashy_0.3.1_i386.deb 24ccfb3622132e6ec58cf0631b32f62e 24670 libs optional libsplashy0_0.3.1_i386.deb 6037df9c9ed3202751abdd267b84485b 26192 libdevel optional libsplashy0-dev_0.3.1_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF0efRLqiZQEml+FURAgfqAKCyQodOwhFSBx5g84B3y8igS7lFJQCfdtq3 x3CmObuWqP9OOOyVPh8gGzM= =InAC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: libsplashy0-dev_0.3.1_i386.deb to pool/main/s/splashy/libsplashy0-dev_0.3.1_i386.deb libsplashy0_0.3.1_i386.deb to pool/main/s/splashy/libsplashy0_0.3.1_i386.deb splashy_0.3.1.dsc to pool/main/s/splashy/splashy_0.3.1.dsc splashy_0.3.1.tar.gz to pool/main/s/splashy/splashy_0.3.1.tar.gz splashy_0.3.1_i386.deb to pool/main/s/splashy/splashy_0.3.1_i386.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accepted uswsusp 0.6~cvs20070202-1 (source i386)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:42:33 +0100 Source: uswsusp Binary: uswsusp Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.6~cvs20070202-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: uswsusp- tools to use userspace software suspend provided by Linux Closes: 398221 406734 407898 409507 409614 409617 409969 410320 Changes: uswsusp (0.6~cvs20070202-1) unstable; urgency=low . * This is CVS snapshot, because I commit my fixes directly in cvs. Also all other patches in cvs are fixes in want to include. * Build with splashy support * New debconf translations (closes: #406734, #409614) Thanks: Hideki Yamane [ja], Steve Lord Flaubert [es] * Make resume restore loglevel when there is no image (closes: #398221) * Updated manpages. * Suggest splashy * Recommend initramfs-tools (=0.75) (closes: #407898) * Add support for swap files in maintainer scripts * Don't resume in single user mode * Updated debconf translations (closes: #409617, #409507, #409969) Thanks: Daniel Nylander [sv], Luca Monducci [it], Miroslav Kure [cz], Florentin Duneau [fr] * Fix uswsusp.config to also notice other swap spaces than the biggest. * Remove init script. swapon now includes a patch to restore the swap signature on a failed resume. * This includes an entry for Bill's machine (closes: #410320) * Add some text to the README about swap files not working of 2.6.20 * Warn against using uswsusp and splashy from initramfs * Remove lintian override, resume is dynamic these days. * Don't put a swap file in the list if we have uname -r 2.6.20 Files: 014ca79a7e53181314c994935a37fdbd 676 admin optional uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070202-1.dsc 76c685a545b5275c21b3c767e62ba30e 214782 admin optional uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070202.orig.tar.gz fc09bc1a3d159ba3beb44f15aa8a6b17 46773 admin optional uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070202-1.diff.gz ae165139f88544041661f730d350d0c1 153756 admin optional uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070202-1_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF0g+jLqiZQEml+FURAtHeAJ9noLdheLYs+f3KrFx0rJVj+99XsQCeNSnM mqwIUIPNu0uhRBsgs5S5Nm4= =1D7T -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070202-1.diff.gz to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070202-1.diff.gz uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070202-1.dsc to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070202-1.dsc uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070202-1_i386.deb to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070202-1_i386.deb uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070202.orig.tar.gz to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.6~cvs20070202.orig.tar.gz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accepted splashy 0.3.0 (source i386)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:10:56 +0100 Source: splashy Binary: libsplashy0-dev splashy libsplashy0 Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.3.0 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Splashy Devel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: libsplashy0 - Library to draw splash screen on boot, shutdown, resume or suspen libsplashy0-dev - Library to draw splash screen on boot, shutdown, resume or suspen splashy- A complete user-space boot splash system Closes: 404303 405235 405240 406110 Changes: splashy (0.3.0) unstable; urgency=low . [ Otavio Salvador ] * Drop all patches since they were merged in upstream repository. * Don't use CDBS tarball mode anymore. * Fix a control Depends invalid field. * Stop using control.in file. * Use debhelper compatibility level 5. * Simplify initramfs support installation on package. * Include libdirectfb-extra as dependency. * Make this a native package * Prevent kbd (a console-tools altenative) from being run when splashy is running. . [ Tim Dijkstra ] * Build libsplahy0 and libsplashy0-dev. * Build only splashy statically * Rewrite initramfs-scripts/hook to install all necessary files and libraries. * Fix install targets (closes: 404303) * Use /lib/init/rw/splashy for storage of steps file (closes: 405240) * Reimplement steps calculation with things present in /bin * Prevent console-tools from being run when splashy is (closes: 405235) * Install /etc/directfbrc on initramfs (closes: 406110) * Remove splashy_pgrep, it is obsolete * Install manpages in correct place * Lots of autofoo cleanups * The themes have a new XML schema Files: e2c3e38aa8fa01310305b32e29b08ff9 795 graphics optional splashy_0.3.0.dsc cac81fbe2d9659f43966c5100d542583 831472 graphics optional splashy_0.3.0.tar.gz aa6ba9bb0e6f14e981d91136d563f8e3 1341294 graphics optional splashy_0.3.0_i386.deb 7e9051eb35118568e169d83d2ad5aec3 24256 libs optional libsplashy0_0.3.0_i386.deb cbc425f8e12380802b745e9c353be57a 25758 libdevel optional libsplashy0-dev_0.3.0_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFtqoELqiZQEml+FURAolTAKCE5xYF5FSra9li9vQM+Et9Y7YnWwCgihPZ wCYo8orHTqUXjMNcY/Qrpbk= =izVq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: libsplashy0-dev_0.3.0_i386.deb to pool/main/s/splashy/libsplashy0-dev_0.3.0_i386.deb libsplashy0_0.3.0_i386.deb to pool/main/s/splashy/libsplashy0_0.3.0_i386.deb splashy_0.3.0.dsc to pool/main/s/splashy/splashy_0.3.0.dsc splashy_0.3.0.tar.gz to pool/main/s/splashy/splashy_0.3.0.tar.gz splashy_0.3.0_i386.deb to pool/main/s/splashy/splashy_0.3.0_i386.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accepted splashy-themes 0.3.0 (source all)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:14:43 +0100 Source: splashy-themes Binary: splashy-themes Architecture: source all Version: 0.3.0 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Splashy Devel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: splashy-themes - A complete user-space boot splash system Changes: splashy-themes (0.3.0) unstable; urgency=low . * Updated to schem version 1.1 * New theme: debian-moreblue Files: be89800aa20be1f8917241f1c4193f45 693 graphics optional splashy-themes_0.3.0.dsc 4065560e78701a78bf6c9581c32d0be0 2210802 graphics optional splashy-themes_0.3.0.tar.gz 18da9c77b5bde86dfa2e62c537524e09 2149446 graphics optional splashy-themes_0.3.0_all.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQFFtq/NLqiZQEml+FURAtYMAJdxAtL1UOKXRIIjiV8U077lHt80AKCQ5RhE T5Dbg2r6bjGCeQ2xKa+fuQ== =fLjK -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: splashy-themes_0.3.0.dsc to pool/main/s/splashy-themes/splashy-themes_0.3.0.dsc splashy-themes_0.3.0.tar.gz to pool/main/s/splashy-themes/splashy-themes_0.3.0.tar.gz splashy-themes_0.3.0_all.deb to pool/main/s/splashy-themes/splashy-themes_0.3.0_all.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:28:06 +0100 Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having eog and evince in the menu serves the I want to look at a file I know I have on my disk case. But you can open the file in the same number of clicks but with a better interface, by launching a nautilus window. You can get it even faster if it's still in the recently used menu. I would say lots of people are used to think in the following way: I want to open file `foo'. Start program that handles file `foo'. Open file `foo' This works with files that you can edit (abiword files) and those you can't (pdf). A distinction between the two is IMHO artificial. Why not facilitate people that work like this and have one more entry in the menu? I would say there is even a better case for having evince in the menu then for eog. eog opens files you can edit with programs like gimp, while for evince there is no alternative `editor'. grts Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:46:45 +0100 Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luca Capello [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2) the Debian menu requires xpm icons [2] and in fact only 4 packages have icons in the png format (ekiga, evince, gimp, gnomemeeting), To be fair, the .png icon referenced by the evince menu file doesn't exist... 4) evince doesn't appear by default on the GNOME Applications list (it happened on three different installations). Maybe it's not the only one, but I cannot find any others. That is intentional, as evince is not intended to be invoked directly. Other applications (such as browsers, nautilus) can and will open files in evince when the user is trying to see a PDF/PS/DjVu/DVI/... file. That is a bogus argument. Why shouldn't I want to fire up evince when I know I have a pdf/ps/etc file on disk I wan't to read? It has a normal 'open'-button... grts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:03:15 +0100 Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just FYI, I *personally* would prefer an evince entry in the menu as well, but I prefer keeping close to the usability policy defined by upstream. Well we shouldn't keep ourselves hostage of stupid upstream behaviour, should we? grts Tim
Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 15:51:29 +0100 Luca Capello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The presence in the menu has to be weighted against the cluttering. If I search for a program, I go to the menu list, not on Nautilus (obviously this is my personal behavior, which can surely be different From a new user's one). I don't know. I think 'traditionally' one always had to launch the correct program from the menu, also on other OSs. grts Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/var like dir accessible early in boot sequence
Hi, We need a directory, which is accessible very very early during boot. It has some files in it which are regenerated at regular intervals, but not (necessarily) during boot. Actually we know generate it during runlevels 0 and 6. For know we put this in /lib/$package. I'm not sure this OK, because it means we will write to / also when we're not installing packages. /var/lib seems better, but that is not available that early. If it is really necessary we could generate the information during boot, so maybe /lib/init/rw? Comments? grts Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:55:53 +0100 Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 05:22:51PM +0100, Tim Dijkstra wrote: On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:03:15 +0100 Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just FYI, I *personally* would prefer an evince entry in the menu as well, but I prefer keeping close to the usability policy defined by upstream. Well we shouldn't keep ourselves hostage of stupid upstream behaviour, should we? Contrary to us, GNOME (in this case RedHat) actually employs usability experts. Who are we to think we know better? You'll see that these so-called experts will be arguing next that you're not supposed to launch it from a terminal and will move it from the standard $PATH to /usr/lib/gnome or something grrr Tim
Accepted uswsusp 0.5-1 (source i386)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 23:10:35 +0100 Source: uswsusp Binary: uswsusp Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.5-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: uswsusp- tools to use userspace software suspend provided by Linux Closes: 401390 402493 403036 404344 405771 Changes: uswsusp (0.5-1) unstable; urgency=low . * New upstream release (closes: #405771) * Test the exit status of update-initramfs in postrm. If u-i fails tell the user about it, but remove uswsusp anyway. (closes: #401390) * Add /usr/share/initramfs-tools/conf.d/uswsusp. This will, after initramfs-tools bug #376393 gets fixed, setup non-us keyboards in early userspace. This is needed to close: #405388 * Add init script (A slightly simplified version from the hibernate package) that restores swap partitions on a failed resume. A shared solution would be better, but this should do it for now. (closes: #402493, #404344) * Wrote swap-offset manpage. * Make splash=y the default. If people have splash stuff installed we can assume they wan't to use it. * Add preliminary support for resume offset in maintainer scripts. * Only warn about missing snapshot report once. (closes: #403036) Files: 2633aed69764c2fe17bfa59f7055cdc4 624 admin optional uswsusp_0.5-1.dsc 7e2da4d4bfba28d0783670ce7d99e942 211436 admin optional uswsusp_0.5.orig.tar.gz 522ef3fb6b4d0ba8b51aff7b3e7e8398 46331 admin optional uswsusp_0.5-1.diff.gz b70f40da41059e34f9be22008c27e710 517326 admin optional uswsusp_0.5-1_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFppdVh7PER70FhVQRAp5IAJ0cDOHtBamhaONvqfC4LmoaZ5s2bgCdGpPf Bc4OcLM8vbtzdV6gh7emIAE= =y12v -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: uswsusp_0.5-1.diff.gz to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.5-1.diff.gz uswsusp_0.5-1.dsc to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.5-1.dsc uswsusp_0.5-1_i386.deb to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.5-1_i386.deb uswsusp_0.5.orig.tar.gz to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.5.orig.tar.gz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accepted uswsusp 0.3~cvs20060928-6 (source i386)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:41:29 +0100 Source: uswsusp Binary: uswsusp Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.3~cvs20060928-6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: high Maintainer: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: uswsusp- tools to use userspace software suspend provided by Linux Closes: 401102 Changes: uswsusp (0.3~cvs20060928-6) unstable; urgency=high . * Make suspend-keygen not fail on large keys (closes: #401102) Files: 74c07fbf4cf079b69a2c919fd5cd3ded 660 admin optional uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-6.dsc 9ff1688ed0b19072dcc08963ef44e28f 56836 admin optional uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-6.diff.gz 5e4e1f5ca835ad5cb7bb54db2fd0f33f 511808 admin optional uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-6_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFgB7TLqiZQEml+FURAv/QAJ4sv2KMr9RR6PPQpFumuRMOb03D1ACgtUzB 8MUVrwXhMqpa0tWhtaiZ3ak= =Ffnw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-6.diff.gz to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-6.diff.gz uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-6.dsc to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-6.dsc uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-6_i386.deb to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-6_i386.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accepted uswsusp 0.3~cvs20060928-5 (source amd64)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 22:46:59 +0100 Source: uswsusp Binary: uswsusp Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.3~cvs20060928-5 Distribution: unstable Urgency: high Maintainer: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: uswsusp- tools to use userspace software suspend provided by Linux Closes: 401391 Changes: uswsusp (0.3~cvs20060928-5) unstable; urgency=high . * High, because this really (hopefully) fixes the nasty bug from -4. * Allow keys up to and including 4096 bits, not 4094. * Don't complain about missing swap if we do have one, even if we don't have a config file (closes: #401391) Files: 4bc658e29ce2a86777252b94ef4e871e 660 admin optional uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-5.dsc e2c58acfcd48146a0b457c37da215d12 56576 admin optional uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-5.diff.gz fd63c7f71f48a2484e9f06450c434dcb 623702 admin optional uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-5_amd64.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFfTG/mdOZoew2oYURAkOVAJ0W70LzaxpHyB50a1njXnLlPSNBCwCgv7gj p3yZdyX1pU61XOLcPx+iEuI= =n8Gp -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-5.diff.gz to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-5.diff.gz uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-5.dsc to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-5.dsc uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-5_amd64.deb to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-5_amd64.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accepted uswsusp 0.3~cvs20060928-4 (source i386)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:56:30 +0100 Source: uswsusp Binary: uswsusp Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.3~cvs20060928-4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: high Maintainer: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: uswsusp- tools to use userspace software suspend provided by Linux Closes: 400489 400569 Changes: uswsusp (0.3~cvs20060928-4) unstable; urgency=high . * Priority high because of trivial but highly annoying bug * Don't complain about missing swap if we do have one (closes: #400569) * Remove harmless but confusing error messages (closes: #400489) Files: 68321c37d221cc9a6e2d63c8b7352929 660 admin optional uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-4.dsc 8a9ff5c42a219d1d22f336a2536a9410 55963 admin optional uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-4.diff.gz 3d94b6d649e2d8c7e61fc1e3f3ebdf4f 511526 admin optional uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-4_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFbYCCLqiZQEml+FURAi+aAJ41JhygGfPtY03ytAsmTMPJObXsuwCgroia PR7Z40azuKg8vWO4r5JkW74= =2/p0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-4.diff.gz to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-4.diff.gz uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-4.dsc to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-4.dsc uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-4_i386.deb to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-4_i386.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accepted uswsusp 0.3~cvs20060928-3 (source i386)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:24:14 +0100 Source: uswsusp Binary: uswsusp Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.3~cvs20060928-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: uswsusp- tools to use userspace software suspend provided by Linux Closes: 395171 396680 397214 398829 398829 398839 Changes: uswsusp (0.3~cvs20060928-3) unstable; urgency=medium . * Medium priority because this contains lots of trivial but important changes. * Don't install upstreams config file (closes: #395171) * Override SUSPEND_DIR on the make command line instead of patching upstreams Makefile. removes the need for a diff. * New Updated debconf translations (closes: #396680, #398829) Thanks Florentin Duneau [fr], Luca Monducci [it] * Add -lz to linker commands. libpci now needs that. * Temporarly add build-depends on zlibg1-dev. Depending on pciutils-dev should really pull that in. * Allow for non-active swap partitions (closes: #397214) * Keep the splash parameter when set in the /etc/uswsusp.conf * Ask encryption question at medium priority (closes: #398839) * Also keep shutdown_method parameter. Corresponding debconf question is not marked translatable. I don't intend to really ask it. * Fix README.Debian typos * Updated debconf translations (closes: #398829) Thanks: Miroslav Kure [cs], Jens Seidel [de], Florentin Duneau [fr], Luca Monducci [it], Me [nl], Eddy PetriÈor [ro], Daniel Nylander [sv], Clytie Siddall [vi] Files: 0779073c86fbdbe855a0dc6c52cf3bb1 660 admin optional uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-3.dsc 5c61405ec07d43f6cd66da08abca399e 56254 admin optional uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-3.diff.gz 874c029f8ede7a9d9cdf32e4965d8db3 511512 admin optional uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-3_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFaLSBLqiZQEml+FURAi+cAJ9nJsP1PQo1qJTGeCrh4NKEMnLY+wCeId7F vBWW4ByLSIyfcsIfpP6In3Y= =GSZr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-3.diff.gz to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-3.diff.gz uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-3.dsc to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-3.dsc uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-3_i386.deb to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-3_i386.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bash /dev/tcp and /dev/udp
On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 09:42:50 -0600 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/23/06 07:09, Jan C. Nordholz wrote: Hi Klaus, from the bash manpage: /dev/tcp/host/port /dev/udp/host/port This has been discussed several times [1][2], and the outcome was every time that this should not be a feature of the shell, but of more specialized tools like nc. Use those or recompile your bash. [snip] [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/04/msg01591.html [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/07/msg00121.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/07/msg00204.html It can produce completely unexpected results. C Perl also can produce completely unexpected results, and C is a security nightmare, but we don't ban/disable them in Debian. FWIW, awk has similar functionality. From awk(1): The following special filenames may be used with the | co-process operator for creating TCP/IP network connections. /inet/tcp/lport/rhost/rport File for TCP/IP connection on local port lport to remote host rhost on remote port rport. Use a port of 0 to have the system pick a port. /inet/udp/lport/rhost/rport Similar, but use UDP/IP instead of TCP/IP. /inet/raw/lport/rhost/rport Reserved for future use. grts Tim signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Accepted uswsusp 0.3~cvs20060928-2 (source i386)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:57:01 +0200 Source: uswsusp Binary: uswsusp Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.3~cvs20060928-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: uswsusp- tools to use userspace software suspend provided by Linux Closes: 391065 391442 392169 393097 393883 394002 Changes: uswsusp (0.3~cvs20060928-2) unstable; urgency=low . * Check if /proc is mounted (closes: #391065) * Fix typo in Description (closes: #391442) * Added debconf translations. (closes: #393097) Thanks Eddy PetriÈor [ro]], Florentin Duneau [fr]] * Fix ugly prompt (closes: #392169) * Test for snapshot support in the kernel to avoid bug reports of people that did not read the README * Fix typo in README (closes: #394002) * Updated debconf translations (closes: #393883) Thanks: Miroslav Kure [cs], Jens Seidel [de], Daniel Nylander [sv], Clytie Siddall [vi], Me [nl] Files: 4a0aeb2e728b59618da37dd5926d6e45 648 admin optional uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-2.dsc 0a801a071a95d0159b023d603d004bcc 52651 admin optional uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-2.diff.gz 1a7997884521c7e4ac3c213c072af757 506544 admin optional uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-2_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFPWCXLqiZQEml+FURAnIoAJ9TZGQiE8reS805iB4UFDq6Xdf0wACfZ2vE P5raBeXi44gWGkXd2/u+bIE= =jcdu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-2.diff.gz to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-2.diff.gz uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-2.dsc to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-2.dsc uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-2_i386.deb to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-2_i386.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gdm/Gnome/KDE and device permissions
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 14:12:20 +0200
Gernot Salzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't mechanisms like libpam_devperm grant exclusive access?
On login the ownership of the devices is set to the console user,
and only the owner is granted rwx-rights. On logout
ownership/permissions of the device revert to the old setting.
First, there is no safe way to revoke privileges from a user. If a user
gets access to a certain group he/she can arrange ways to keep it,
even after being logged out (make a suid binary for example).
Second, several people can login at once on different VTs.
Since groups are only set when a user logs in it's not possible to e.g.,
add the user to the plugdev group when they plug in a USB stick. You'd
have to add them to plugdev when they log in.
Couldn't a script triggered by udev set ownership/permissions to
the current console user, like libpam_devperm does?
Why would you want to bring udev in the picture? If you think the scheme
used by pam_group (and similar) is secure enough for you, you can also grant
access to the plugdev, netdev and powerdev groups. Note that access control
is not hard coded to plugdev in dbus, you can edit the files in /etc/udev
to have more relaxed access control. Oh, on debian you also need to change
the permissions of p{u,}mount
How do end-user Linux distributions that are supposed to work out of the box
(like ubuntu, fedora, suse) solve this problem? World-rwx for all
user devices? All users added to groups like audio, video, ...?
Afaik, fedora has pam_console or something like that does something like
you suggest; give privileges to all users that log in at the console.
Also dbus has some support for this, but this isn't compiled in the
debian version, because of the caveats I outlined above.
Would it be possible to let all user devices (static or dynamic) be
owned by group console with rwx rights, and add/remove the console
user dynamically to/from this group on login/logout? This way
it wouldn't matter whether e.g. the usb stick is plugged in before
or after login.
Wouldn't this solve the problem?
As I said, no, it would not solve the problem safely for true multi-user
environments. FWIW, there has been some discussion and ideas floating
around on the HAL and DBus lists. The current consensus is that we need
a secure way for dbus/hal to know what is the current active virtual
terminal and how owns it. For mulit-head systems we need a way to
specify that certain devices (think usb ports) belong to a certain
display.
Nobody has had time to implement it yet however.
grts Tim
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Re: gdm/Gnome/KDE and device permissions
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 16:31:37 +0200 Gernot Salzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, there is no safe way to revoke privileges from a user. If a user gets access to a certain group he/she can arrange ways to keep it, even after being logged out (make a suid binary for example). I admit that I don't know much about the internals of Unix/Linux. So, if upon login of user foo ownership/permissions of /dev/audio are set to crw--- 1 foo audio 14, 4 2006-09-22 13:25 /dev/audio and after logout of foo and login of bar to crw--- 1 bar audio 14, 4 2006-09-22 13:25 /dev/audio foo might still be able to access /dev/audio ? One problem is that a user can launch a daemon that keeps the device file open before she logs out Also I was referring to how pam_group works, but I find this way of handling permissions even more broken than pam_group. For example, what happens if somebody logs in on another VT? Second, several people can login at once on different VTs. True, the general case is much more involved. However, considering that the majority of desktops is single-headed, Ever tried ctrl-alt-fn or fast-user-switching? This includes to be able to access devices easily, but without being pried upon by curious (but otherwise friendly and non-hacker) remote users. You maybe right that there are lots of people that are the only user on their systems and for them the objections I have are maybe not important. But going with pam_group or libpam-permdev is broken by design and is not the solution that is going be the standard in the debian. For these people the current setup probably works quite well anyway, because (IIRC) pmount mounts read-only for the user. (If it doesn't you can most probably set it up that way). And because everybody is friendly anyway they won't 'cat garbage /dev/dsp' ;) Why would you want to bring udev in the picture? If you think the scheme used by pam_group (and similar) is secure enough for you, you can also grant access to the plugdev, netdev and powerdev groups. I don't want to grant access to groups but rather want to mimic the behaviour of libpam-permdev that changes ownership/permissions of the device to grant only access to the console user. Maybe udev is the wrong term; with udev I mean the part of the system that creates devices dynamically and thus knows when and at which device e.g. a usb stick was plugged in, and can initiate the action of changing the ownership/permissions. I found a partial solution somewhere on the web working like that. You could probably make a udev rule that does that. But it seems a bit fragile, and again has the same problems as the other methods. grts Tim signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: gids assigned non-deterministically
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 14:39:07 -0500 Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Roberto C. Sanchez] That is a problem if I want to server everything up out of LDAP. There really should be a reserved range, maybe 100-499 of Debian gids, where they are assigned in a predertmined way. I don't think it's a good idea to put system users and groups into LDAP anyway. They are specific to a system. That is no longer a reality with groups like plugdev, powerdev and netdev, which users need to be a member of to be able to get the wonders of automatically mounted usb-sticks, tweakable power management and whatever comes with the utopia stack. grts Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gids assigned non-deterministically
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:20:26 +0200 Gabor Gombas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 09:36:56AM +0200, Tim Dijkstra wrote: That is no longer a reality with groups like plugdev, powerdev and netdev, which users need to be a member of to be able to get the wonders of automatically mounted usb-sticks, tweakable power management and whatever comes with the utopia stack. Then use pam_group to temporarily assign those groups to users. That way the gids can be different on every system, and you can even gain performance by having less groups in LDAP. Hmm, pam_group doesn't sound to secure to me... what if on one machine gid 110 is www-data and on another plugdev. Then if a user logs in on the second machine it will get access to gid 110, make some suid executable, which on another machine ... Well the nfs mount is nosuid, but still, I find this a bit scary. Especially if you have more than a handful of users (and if you are considering LDAP, I assume you have), groups with hudreds or thousands of members can cause headaches. But this is of course true... grts Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gids assigned non-deterministically
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:08:29 +0200 Gabor Gombas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 11:33:43AM +0200, Tim Dijkstra wrote: Hmm, pam_group doesn't sound to secure to me... what if on one machine gid 110 is www-data and on another plugdev. Then if a user logs in on the second machine it will get access to gid 110, make some suid executable, which on another machine ... This can't happen. Groups are _not_ transferred over remote login. Of course not, that's the whole point. If you dynamically allocate system groups and dynamically make users members of groups. You can get a mess if they both write to a nfs mounted volume. A file that is owned by group 110 can be groups www-data on one and plugdev on the other. New files are owned by the user's primary group, and _not_ by the supplemental groups (and I really hope you do not want to use 'plugdev' etc. as the primary group for any real user...) That's not an argument someone can just 'chown :plugdev' something. grts Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gids assigned non-deterministically
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 18:10:42 +0200
Gabor Gombas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 03:36:20PM +0200, Tim Dijkstra wrote:
That's not an argument someone can just 'chown :plugdev' something.
Crap. I knew I'd overlook something. I think you could still prevent
that with SELinux though :-)
Have to read up on SELinux some day, but not now;)
On the other hand I was thinking about if in your case basically all
user needs to be a member of all these groups anyway, then there is no
point in having these groups at all. Just make pmount executable by
anyone, and edit /etc/dbus-1/system.d/{avahi-dbus.conf,hal.conf} and
replace 'policy group=powerdev' etc. with 'policy
context=default' or with 'policy at_console=true'.
Similarly, if all users have read(/write) access to a device because all
users are part of the group owning the device node, then you can just
make that device node a+r(/a+w) and forget about the group.
Of course there may be services running under other uids that you do not
want to give all access humans has; it has to be decided.
Yes, that doesn't seem like the right solution.
In any case, I'm kind of happy with my current setup. I was just trying
to point out that pam_group has it draw backs.
grts Tim
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Accepted uswsusp 0.3~cvs20060928-1 (source i386)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 18:35:04 +0200 Source: uswsusp Binary: uswsusp Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.3~cvs20060928-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: uswsusp- tools to use userspace software suspend provided by Linux Closes: 388492 388493 388848 389984 390263 Changes: uswsusp (0.3~cvs20060928-1) unstable; urgency=low . * This is based on a cvs version There haven't been a release for a while, but there has been some significant bug fixes and the port to libgcrypt. * Compile with encryption support * Added debconf questions for encrypt. * Make postinst create an RSA key if encryption is wanted * Wrote manpage for suspend-keygen * Updated README.Debian * Install upstream HOWTO (closes: #388492) * Make /dev/snapshot in postinst (closes: #388493) * Fix some typos in the debconf templates (closes: #388848) * Updated and new debconf translations. (closes: #389984) Thanks Miroslav Kure [cs], Jens Seidel [de], Daniel Nylander [sv], Clytie Siddall [vi] * Apparently linux should be written with a capital 'L'. (closes: #390263) Files: 2d500af1cc7c1d3d4db2d3d38d2d3ccc 648 admin optional uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-1.dsc b41d9b41b15b59884f25ecff3ee49894 197772 admin optional uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928.orig.tar.gz bfc3e4dc4f76d0385d168a8b5bf45b96 49015 admin optional uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-1.diff.gz 31bb7a3ab10b6bf89b0d9e5afd2a5376 502080 admin optional uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-1_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFIltrLqiZQEml+FURAs+YAJ4n8d0EULpeSjJxrVpRSdmi5m7uNACfaJDp zKjCmmuxdpKmR6mitjCPjFw= =6jYE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-1.diff.gz to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-1.diff.gz uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-1.dsc to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-1.dsc uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-1_i386.deb to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928-1_i386.deb uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928.orig.tar.gz to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.3~cvs20060928.orig.tar.gz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#389817: ITP: pm-utils -- utilities and scripts usefull for power management
Op Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:29:14 +0100 schreef Stephen Gran [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This one time, at band camp, Tim Dijkstra said: Op Thu, 28 Sep 2006 00:00:28 +0100 schreef Stephen Gran [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The advantage HAL has over acpid, is that it is very well integrated in to the users (kde or gnome) session. That way it is able to notify the user (he, your battery is low!) get user feedback (should I suspend to ram, to disk?) and act on user configuration (suspend to ram when closing the lid, but only when on AC, else suspend to disk). Only a little. Perhaps I am just of the old skool 'do one job and do it well' mind set, but all of those events appear to be acpi events which acpid handles rather well, even in the brave new world of single user linux on laptops that Ubuntu and others have brought us. You do know that acpid can run arbitrary scripts on acpi events, like say, lid close, right? Yes of course. But acpid does next to nothing by default. HAL is more of a 'should-just-work' approach. Also what I wanted to stress; HAL is trying to fit in the brave new world of systems (lots of desktops have acpi, can suspend, etc) where the user at the active X-session should be able to influence what happens at these events -on the fly-. I'm also more of an old skool guy, but I also have several people using the machines I administer who are not. Also, I must confess, it's nice to click on some icon to temporally disable suspend (because of idle time) because I'm watching a movie. I understand that this package is no different than a dozen others, in that it tries to provide policy layers and cute gui things on top of acpid, but it just seems like too many layers of abstraction and replicated code bases to me. HAL does not need acpid, it will listen to acpi events just fine without. HAL, dbus, etc are already installed on a modern desktop (both kde and gnome), they already define that policy layer. So why not take advantage of that? But, as I say, whatever, one more won't hurt. I just feel a little perturbed when I see some new project that needs HAL, dbus, and a half dozen other things to handle something that can already be handled with shell scripts and a very small daemon. Note that all discussion above is about HAL, not pm-utils. HAL will depend on pm-utils, not the other way around. And what pm-utils means to bring is a consistent interface and a should-just-work experience for bringing the machine a sleep state, not listen to acpi events. Heck, you could even use pm-utils in combination with acpid. (Funny, I'm arguing in favour of pm-utils, here while I've just been expressing my reservations on the hal-list against it...;) grts Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#389817: ITP: pm-utils -- utilities and scripts usefull for power management
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: pm-utils Version : 0.0.1 Upstream Author : Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED], Peter Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Zeuthen [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://webcvs.freedesktop.org/pm-utils/pm-utils/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C, Shell Description : utilities and scripts usefull for power management Provides simple shell command line tools to suspend and hibernate computer that can be used to run vendor or distro supplied scripts on suspend and resume. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#389817: ITP: pm-utils -- utilities and scripts usefull for power management
Op Wed, 27 Sep 2006 23:41:01 +0200 schreef Steinar H. Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 11:08:24PM +0200, Tim Dijkstra wrote: Provides simple shell command line tools to suspend and hibernate computer that can be used to run vendor or distro supplied scripts on suspend and resume. This is something like the fifth package in Debian that attempts to do this. What sets is apart from the ones already in Debian? Do we really need another one? This will make all others obsolete;) More seriously, this will be a dependency of HAL and with that of the whole gnome power management stack. So I think we can't go around it in the future. I wanted to package it to make sure it plays nice with uswsusp (another package I maintain). grts Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#389817: ITP: pm-utils -- utilities and scripts usefull for power management
Op Thu, 28 Sep 2006 00:00:28 +0100 schreef Stephen Gran [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Not that I actually object to the package, but why can't HAL let acpid manage acpi events? I am continually confused by the profusion of packages that offer to work around acpid in order to provide the functionality it could and should be providing. Note that this package is not really related to acpid, but I'll try to answer anyway. Acpid is just another deamon listening to /proc/acpi/event. It doesn't have a good way of communicating with a user. HAL is also able to listen to acpi events (by listening to /proc/acpi/event or acpid). The advantage HAL has over acpid, is that it is very well integrated in to the users (kde or gnome) session. That way it is able to notify the user (he, your battery is low!) get user feedback (should I suspend to ram, to disk?) and act on user configuration (suspend to ram when closing the lid, but only when on AC, else suspend to disk). Now acpid has technically nothing to do with bringing the machine in a sleep state. For that to work you have basically three options: 1) Patch your kernel with suspend2 2) Use swsusp build in kernel 3) Use uswsusp which is partly in kernel, partly user space. I think that with the profusion of packages you talk about are the packages (like pm-utils) the try to work around bugs in drivers and offer functionality before and after the actual sleep. Things like syncing the clock, stopping services, networks, fixing the state of the graphics card. I hope this clears it up a bit grts Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#389817: ITP: pm-utils -- utilities and scripts usefull for power management
Op Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:04:40 +0200 schreef Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 11:41:01PM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 11:08:24PM +0200, Tim Dijkstra wrote: Provides simple shell command line tools to suspend and hibernate computer that can be used to run vendor or distro supplied scripts on suspend and resume. This is something like the fifth package in Debian that attempts to do this. What sets is apart from the ones already in Debian? Do we really need another one? * Upstream Author : Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED], Peter Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Zeuthen [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://webcvs.freedesktop.org/pm-utils/pm-utils/ I think this is the one to rule them all. Are you being cynical or serious? grts Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian cares more about documents than people
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:45:06 -0500 alfredo diega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lastly, suspend doesn't work with Debian but does with Dapper. What kind of suspend? suspend-to-ram (S3), (user space) software suspend to disk? How do you trigger it? FWIW, the kernels in dapper and unstable both have the possibility to suspend (to ram and disk). Suspend to disk should mostly works on PC-hardware. Suspend to ram is a bit more tricky, but I think ubuntu has the same software as debian, in this case. I could be however, that ubuntu installs packages by default which debian doesn't. grts Tim signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Creating packages with debconf
On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:47:34 + (GMT) Rodrigo Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I just configured the tree with debconf, by create a package, but when i try to build a package the makefile is required. I choose single package. Skipping copying to script-gera-banco-1.4.orig since script-gera-dbar-1.4.orig exists. Currently there is no top level Makefile. This may require additional tuning. You already have a debian/ subdirectory in the source tree. dh_make will not try to overwrite anything. The intetion is, my package execute the script (create bd in postgresql) and remove this script, and make some a questions. How I can to create Makefile in this case ? I think you're confused, you're mixing up debconf, dh_make and dpkg-buildpackage. You can use dh_make only to setup some defaults for your package-to-be, it does _not_ build a package. Have you read http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ ? I suggest you start there. grts Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creating packages with debconf
On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:54:40 + (GMT) Rodrigo Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Tim, Yes I read this link, and i take a example of changelog. After, the error messange was the same. Then i try the below command. sky:~/script-gera-db-1.4# dh_gencontrol dh_gencontrol: Compatibility levels before 4 are deprecated. found eof where expected more change data or trailer at /usr/lib/dpkg/parsechangelog/debian line 156, STDIN line 5. dpkg-gencontrol: error: syntax error in parsed version of changelog at line 0: empty file dh_gencontrol: command returned error code 6528 How I can to resolve it ? Use dch to generate your changelog. It's better to ask these questions at [EMAIL PROTECTED], btw. And really, please read the new maintainers guide! grts Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creating packages with debconf
On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:54:40 + (GMT) Rodrigo Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Tim, Yes I read this link, and i take a example of changelog. After, the error messange was the same. Then i try the below command. sky:~/script-gera-db-1.4# dh_gencontrol dh_gencontrol: Compatibility levels before 4 are deprecated. found eof where expected more change data or trailer at /usr/lib/dpkg/parsechangelog/debian line 156, STDIN line 5. dpkg-gencontrol: error: syntax error in parsed version of changelog at line 0: empty file dh_gencontrol: command returned error code 6528 How I can to resolve it ? Use dch to generate your changelog. It's better to ask these questions at [EMAIL PROTECTED], btw. And really, please read the new maintainers guide! grts Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accepted uswsusp 0.2-3 (source i386)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 16:48:45 +0200 Source: uswsusp Binary: uswsusp Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.2-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: uswsusp- tools to use userspace software suspend provided by linux Closes: 380110 380465 381694 381697 381698 Changes: uswsusp (0.2-3) unstable; urgency=low . * Added Czech translation by Miroslav Kure. (Closes: #380465) * Implement distclean target for liblzf (Closes: #381697) * Change debconf template 'checksum' into 'compute_checksum' (Closes: #381694) * Removed superfluous comments in the option list of the s2ram manpage * Updated French translation by Florentin Duneau (Closes: #380110) * Fix FTBFS that surfaced due to new libc6-dev by adding #include linux/fs.h (Closes: #381698) Files: 204d4436a63867b6de8c9aa5b8d38040 597 admin optional uswsusp_0.2-3.dsc 387761e5a82e4c68c21ec07bcf5b6cec 18917 admin optional uswsusp_0.2-3.diff.gz 7c33124da4263dd149dd65f50125ed49 283070 admin optional uswsusp_0.2-3_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFE25CHLqiZQEml+FURArhTAKCXvteMYRNcDMF8JHf4H3G8uBdiXQCfTQ2v 2coFBd4JidxrbFoDdqk+83Y= =g9r9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: uswsusp_0.2-3.diff.gz to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.2-3.diff.gz uswsusp_0.2-3.dsc to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.2-3.dsc uswsusp_0.2-3_i386.deb to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.2-3_i386.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accepted uswsusp 0.2-2 (source i386)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 21:46:30 +0200 Source: uswsusp Binary: uswsusp Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.2-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: uswsusp- tools to use userspace software suspend provided by linux Closes: 378060 378060 379020 379097 Changes: uswsusp (0.2-2) unstable; urgency=low . * Fixed off-by-one error that resulted in crashes while parsing the config file (Closes: #379097) * Fixed manpage, some config options where named with underscores, while in reality they don't (Closes: #378060) * Added debconf questions for max loglevel and suspend loglevel and remove loglevel, which doesn't exist. (Closes: #378060) * Added french translation for debconf questions (by Florentin Duneau) this Closes: #379020 Files: 3c5c2d3074b6d55b5780cf78f9953364 597 admin optional uswsusp_0.2-2.dsc af4e77f7f0aa77d817933621d01d4a0a 17587 admin optional uswsusp_0.2-2.diff.gz e47fa30850bdef5e960e648aebd2865a 288668 admin optional uswsusp_0.2-2_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEwX/pLqiZQEml+FURAge2AKCrF8mo7tM4iS1Xwzvh7q5EyrFfBACaAjT5 Q4txRQfFnVUjfpchXGR0O9U= =v6hA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: uswsusp_0.2-2.diff.gz to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.2-2.diff.gz uswsusp_0.2-2.dsc to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.2-2.dsc uswsusp_0.2-2_i386.deb to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.2-2_i386.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accepted uswsusp 0.2-1 (source i386)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 09:38:19 +0200 Source: uswsusp Binary: uswsusp Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.2-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: uswsusp- tools to use userspace software suspend provided by linux Closes: 375217 Changes: uswsusp (0.2-1) unstable; urgency=low . * Initial release (Closes: #375217) * Wrote manpages * Wrote initramfs-tools hooks and scripts * README.Debian * Install as s2disk instead of suspend * Make s2disk suspend-to-both if called as s2both * Updated manpages to mention s2both * ship s2ram, explain usage in README.Debian * Don't build encryption support: openssl vs GPL issue * Wrote s2ram manpage * Rename to uswsusp (it won the google contest;) * Added debconf prompting for the contents of uswsusp.conf We try to detect a swap parition. If it is found all questions are priority medium and lower, because they have sane defaults. * Added liblzf to the source package. It's really small, and there are alternatives in debian. Files: aef4e957350391d05dd66896ef518c67 598 admin optional uswsusp_0.2-1.dsc 0097d44de91a1585be57c682f012608c 189216 admin optional uswsusp_0.2.orig.tar.gz 2da1c96e12e7d0e1d80f3a7955aaf6f1 226687 admin optional uswsusp_0.2-1.diff.gz bd12450e6df1b04fcc78fd1bc31beba6 288666 admin optional uswsusp_0.2-1_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEr57ALqiZQEml+FURAlwHAJ9ObfjzbO36QG5lOkhfJ3opB8K8QgCfT7Ih POy+rAP2xsB4xl84QLvBmTU= =3ul5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: uswsusp_0.2-1.diff.gz to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.2-1.diff.gz uswsusp_0.2-1.dsc to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.2-1.dsc uswsusp_0.2-1_i386.deb to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.2-1_i386.deb uswsusp_0.2.orig.tar.gz to pool/main/u/uswsusp/uswsusp_0.2.orig.tar.gz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting - new idea?
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:14:07 -0300 Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/29/06, Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Software suspend which exists in kernel for several years? And works properly in Debian since what? Weeks? Months?:-) It doesn't really work properly anywhere, does it? :-P Has worked properly here very well with suspend2, which isn't in the stock kernel unfortunately. Now it also works very well here with vanilla kernel 2.6.17 and the debian package for uswsusp which I've packaged. You can try them out if you like (you need a 2.6.17 kernel), http://www.famdijkstra.org/~tdykstra/debian/uswsusp But I hope they'll get uploaded very soon. grts Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: code cpustat.c
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:18:58 +0300 (EEST) Ozgur Karatas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re, ps and top command gives the ram state. i am doing this to see cpu's load and usage. huh? My top shows (admittedly not on my desktop machine;) shows: 15:31:22 up 50 days, 2:41, 2 users, load average: 3,81, 3,85, 3,86 75 processes: 70 sleeping, 5 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped CPU states: cpuusernice systemirq softirq iowaitidle total 99,9%0,0%0,0% 0,0% 0,0%0,0%0,0% cpu00 100,0%0,0%0,0% 0,0% 0,0%0,0%0,0% cpu01 100,0%0,0%0,0% 0,0% 0,0%0,0%0,0% cpu02 99,8%0,0%0,2% 0,0% 0,0%0,0%0,0% cpu03 100,0%0,0%0,0% 0,0% 0,0%0,0%0,0% Mem: 15658564k av, 15618992k used, 39572k free, 0k shrd, 1138248k buff 10379544k actv, 3661724k in_d, 412448k in_c Swap: 2048276k av, 1134532k used, 913744k free 5722464k cached which will give the cpu load just fine... grts Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: code cpustat.c
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:41:05 +0300 (EEST) Ozgur Karatas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, i want to help as much as i can. i dont know very much but i want to help debian evolve and improve myself at the same time. i am coding small applications for this purpose. they could help some. You can read http://www.debian.org/devel/join/ and see what you can do for debian. grts Tim signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Booting - new idea?
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:25:39 -0300 Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/30/06, Mike Hommey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 11:54:42AM +0200, Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:14:07 -0300 Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/29/06, Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Software suspend which exists in kernel for several years? And works properly in Debian since what? Weeks? Months?:-) It doesn't really work properly anywhere, does it? :-P Has worked properly here very well with suspend2, which isn't in the stock kernel unfortunately. Has worked properly here very well with whatever is in the debian kernel, since 2.6.15 at least. Well Mike, maybe very well for you not for many users and some kernel developers[0] agreed. Btw, Greg wrote an article for lwn (major suspend changes), read it there if you're subscribed. Really interesting content that shows the current problems with the kernel implementation (up to 2.6.17) that should be solved soon, since Linus came up with a interesting patch. [0] = http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.power-management.general/1884/focus=1884 I didn't read the whole thread, but AFAICS it only talks about a (clever) hack to make debugging suspend-to-ram easier... grts Tim signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: new tar behavior and --wildcards
On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:37:21 +0200 Thijs Kinkhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-06-27 at 10:02 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Le lun 26 juin 2006 21:53, Petr Vandrovec a écrit : Maybe it could be default for tar's POSIX mode, but I have no idea why GNU mode behavior should be changed in any way. I second that. it's now completely unpossible to do basic packaging work, because such a change wasn't planned. I also don't find it wise, if we still want to release this year, to introduce such a change *now*. Bdale, I *really* beg you to postpone that default change post-etch. Is there any idea of the number of packages actually affected by this? I've harly seen an RC bug flood arise out of this; I've only seen two, one of which is already pending upload. Probably a few more will arise, but the fix is trivial. So I wonder if it would be useful to revert the change, since we have to change at some point and at this point the effects do not seem to be quite dramatic. Maybe you have signs indicating otherwise? It is also bound to break numerous private scripts on peoples systems. And for no good reason, the default has been like this for years now, why change that? For the POSIX-pedantic people there is always the POSIX mode. grts Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#375217: ITP: muswsusp -- tools to use userspace software suspend provided by the linux kernel
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Tim Dijkstra (tdykstra) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: muswsusp Version : 0.2 Upstream Author : Rafael J. Wysocki [EMAIL PROTECTED], Pavel Machek [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://suspend.sf.net * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : tools to use userspace software suspend provided by the linux kernel µswsusp contains the programs to use the userspace software suspend facility available in linux kernel 2.6.17-rc1 and higher. It enables you to save the state of the whole system to disk and power off your system. After restarting your system it will be put back in the exact system state you left it (this is sometimes called hibernation). . It also includes an option to suspend-to-ram after the state is saved to disk. In the suspend-to-ram state the system still uses power, but is faster in resuming. In case the battery depletes the state is still on disk and resume from disk can continue without data loss. . To use this package you need a linux kernel version 2.6.17-rc1 or newer configured to use an mkinitramfs. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (900, 'testing'), (20, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Kernel: Linux 2.6.17.1 Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=UTF-8) (ignored: LC_ALL set to nl_NL.utf8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#375218: ITP: liblzf-dev -- a very small data compression library
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Tim Dijkstra (tdykstra) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: liblzf-dev Version : 1.51 Upstream Author : Marc Alexander Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.goof.com/pcg/marc/liblzf.html * License : BSD/GPL Programming Lang: C Description : a very small data compression library LibLZF is a very small data compression library. It consists of only two .c and two .h files and is very easy to incorporate into your own programs. The compression algorithm is very, very fast, yet still written in portable C. I need this for static linking in the muswsusp binaries resume and suspend. That's why I only intend to provide the a liblzf-dev. The upstream author also only provides infrastructure for static linking. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (900, 'testing'), (20, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Kernel: Linux 2.6.17.1 Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=UTF-8) (ignored: LC_ALL set to nl_NL.utf8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pmount-hal hald and acl for storage media
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:49:37 +0200 Johannes Zellner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, shouldn't pmount-hal hald respect something like merge key=volume.policy.mount_option.acl type=booltrue/merge or merge key=storage.policy.mount_option.acl type=booltrue/merge for removable storage devices for example? I'm not sure which would be the correct one. Anyway, apparently there's currently no way to get removable devices with acl mounted by hald. Any comments? I think the debian setup requires the user calling pmount to be in the plugdev group. grts Tim signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: /usr/share and -common pkgs
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:18:35 +0200 Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justin Pryzby [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The LFS intent of separating /usr/share and /usr/lib is to allow a filesever to export /usr/share to machines of *any* architecture running the same OS (/usr is supposed to be sharable to machines of I think that has been nearly completly abandoned in practice. Harddisk space is just too cheap and debian never actualy supported this on a package manager level (e.g. let dpkg know the server has /usr/share so skip it on extract). Hmm, that would be a nice use case for a dpkg2.0 filter... grts Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: final warning, /usr/doc transition mass bug filing
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 22:40:22 -0500 Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I plan to file normal severity bugs on the following 252 packages, which all still create /usr/doc symlinks and which don't yet have a bug filed about this. 23 such bugs already exist in the bts. Tim Dijkstra (tdykstra) [EMAIL PROTECTED] digitaldj This (among other things) will be fixed in the next upload, which is in my sponsor's hands right now. grts Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Packages file missing from unstable archive
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:51:30 +1000 Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote: Anyway, if it's recompressing like I think, there's no way to get the same compressed md5sum -- even if the information could be transferred, there's no guarantee the local gzip _can_ produce the same output as the remote gzip -- imagine if it had used gzip -9 and your local gzip only supports -1 through -5, eg. We could just mandate in policy that what the gzip level is supposed to be. If we're going to do that, it's probably easier to just use --rsyncable and teach zsync to do look-in-ar instead of look-in-gz. Also we wouldn't have the md5sum problem on the data.tar.gz then. Note that I haven't tested the efficiency of --rsyncable... grts Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A thought about killing two bird with one stone
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 08:57:48 +1000 Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (I have seen a system that appears to run ntpdate on startup before the network is configured - but it hasn't bothered me enough to investigate why yet.) I had one which needed working pcmcia for the network. Pcmcia is initialized after ntpdate, which gave me the same delays. grts Tim pgpBOnlfVd3sN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: libnss-db and /usr/lib/* libraries
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 10:23:41 +0200 Piotr Roszatycki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 11 of August 2005 11:35, Tim Dijkstra wrote: $ ldd /usr/lib/libnss_db.so.2 | grep /usr libdb-4.3.so = /usr/lib/libdb-4.3.so (0xb7e1) So the system can't unmount /usr partition on poweroff process. I wonder if I should link statically the BDB library. The other distros works that way. It might be a problem if the libdb4.3 package will be updated and then the libnss-db should be recompiled. Another thing is the PIC and non-PIC stuff, so I'm afraid that I would need the libdb4.3-pic package which doesn't exist yet. What do you think? This is probably bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=120340 Should it be fixed with replacing #!/bin/sh with #!/bin/dash in /e/i/umountfs ? dash is optional so you can't do that anyway. I thougt the problem was not the /e/i/umountfs but /etc/init.d/rc script which also uses /bin/bash so /usr/lib/libdb-4.3.so library... If umountfs is the only blocker, it could be splitted into umountfs and i.e. remountrootro. I think it could solve the problem. I think any bash-script running at umount time will give you this problem, so yes also rc. So only installing dash as /bin/sh will help you for sure. Anything else would be a work-a-round for #120340, which stays a bug IMHO. grts Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libnss-db and /usr/lib/* libraries
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:17:27 +0200 Piotr Roszatycki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. The problem is important not only for libnss-db package but also for libnss-ldap, libnss-mysql and others. $ ldd /usr/lib/libnss_db.so.2 | grep /usr libdb-4.3.so = /usr/lib/libdb-4.3.so (0xb7e1) So the system can't unmount /usr partition on poweroff process. I wonder if I should link statically the BDB library. The other distros works that way. It might be a problem if the libdb4.3 package will be updated and then the libnss-db should be recompiled. Another thing is the PIC and non-PIC stuff, so I'm afraid that I would need the libdb4.3-pic package which doesn't exist yet. What do you think? This is probably bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=120340 grts Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More on icons for packages
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:18:39 -0500 Dale C. Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thus it might be even better to define a policy the following way: 1. Put all XPMs for the use in Debian-Menu into /usr/share/menu/pixmaps 2. Put all PNGs (and others) into /usr/share/pixmaps if they are intended for applications which follow freedesktop.org specification I don't really see a need for the split. All menu icons should be xpm so any other icons are for some other purpose. I think the point is we don't want to be stuck we xpm till eternity. Especially because we have window/desktop managers that support better formats like png or svg for example and programs supplying them. grts Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#290362: www.debian.org: Please add Root to list of programs that cannot be packaged
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:09:41 -0500 Kevin McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are two problems: first, the license [1] forbids redistribution of modified binaries without permission of the authors, which some have argued makes it unsuitable even for non-free [2]; second, and worse, the software contains what appears to be code derived from cernlib (GPL) [3] and Xclass(LGPL) [4] while having a license incompatible with either. [1] http://root.cern.ch/root/License.html [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/01/msg00297.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/01/msg00281.html [3] http://cernlib.web.cern.ch/cernlib/conditions.html [4] http://xclass.sourceforge.net/ This is most unfortunate, since Root is a very useful tool and a number of interesting projects are based on it, but I don't see how Debian can legally package it, even in non-free, until upstream changes their license. I read the threads you linked to above, but I couldn't find a reference to anybody explaining the ROOT guys what the problem is. Did anybody try, what was their response? grts Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Generating ~/.ssh/known_hosts from LDAP
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:06:32 -0500
Clint Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I couldn't find any way to authenticate db.debian.org when using
direct LDAP(TLS doesn't seem to be supported), but nonetheless this
is damn convenient.
(requires python-ldap)
Or, for people who don't want python installed.
[debian-known-hosts text/plain (437 bytes)]
#!/bin/zsh
for i in ${(M)${(ps:\n\n:)${$(ldapsearc
Now what do I do if I want neither python nor zsh installed ;)
grts Tim
Re: Debian Enterprise?
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:10:07 +1100 Zenaan Harkness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 05:17, Andres Salomon wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:51:43 -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: If the sub-project approach would mean that the new packages and enhancements would be folded into Debian, then I think that is definitely preferable. I do not think that basing it on testing is the best approach; in my experience, enterprises prefer a longer (stable) release cycle than testing's daily churn. Normally I'd agree; however, one of the issues I'm trying to resolve is the need for numerous backports. However, I do believe the subproject/kernel is a good start. I would prefer to see it based around testing snapshots, not necessarily testing itself. Is it possible to create task or meta packages that depend on specific versions - eg. a bunch of versions as at a specific snapshot date of testing?? I think that will give problems. If this package gets into testing then the packages which it depends on can't get any new versions into testing. If it's not in testing there's no guaranty that it's dependencies will be in the archive (precisely because new versions of package get into testing). grtjs Tim
Re: Bug#220358: ITP: mecab-ipadic -- IPA dictionary compiled for Mecab
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:12:41 +0900 TSUCHIYA Masatoshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: computational processing of Japanese texts. Unfortunately, its license has small violation of DFSG, as follows: Each User may also freely distribute the Program, whether in its original form or modified, to any third party or parties, PROVIDED that the provisions of Section 3 (NO WARRANTY) will ALWAYS appear on, or be attached to, the Program, which is distributed substantially in the same form as set out herein and that such intended distribution, if actually made, will neither violate or otherwise contravene any of the laws and regulations of the countries having jurisdiction over the User or the intended distribution itself. First, IANAL and not a native speaker nor a regular debian-legal reader, but I can't see what is exactly nonfree in this piece of licence. In my reading it just says, 1) Do what you want with it 2) Keep a NO WARRANTY section in the licence 3) Don't do any illegal stuff grts Tim
Re: Bug#220358: ITP: mecab-ipadic -- IPA dictionary compiled for Mecab
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:44:46 +0200 David Starner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, IANAL and not a native speaker nor a regular debian-legal reader, but I can't see what is exactly nonfree in this piece of licence. In my reading it just says, 1) Do what you want with it 2) Keep a NO WARRANTY section in the licence 3) Don't do any illegal stuff The last is the killer; say you're a suspected dissident that's prohibited from using a computer or computing software, making your copying of the software illegal. Thus after using this software send an email to journalists revealing the ongoing genocide of your people, and escaping to the free world, you are now open to civil prosecution for copyright violation. It discriminates against classes of users and thus violates the DFSG. Living in a quitte civilised country (well they're doing their best to change it, last week our prime minister was saying people really shouldn't make jokes about the royal family), I didn't think of that one... grts Tim
Re: Bug#220358: ITP: mecab-ipadic -- IPA dictionary compiled for Mecab
On 14 Nov 2003 13:18:02 +0100 Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scripsit Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] TSUCHIYA Masatoshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Each User may also freely distribute the Program, whether in its original form or modified, to any third party or parties, PROVIDED that the provisions of Section 3 (NO WARRANTY) will ALWAYS appear on, or be attached to, the Program, which is distributed substantially in the same form as set out herein and that such intended distribution, if actually made, will neither violate or otherwise contravene any of the laws and regulations of the countries having jurisdiction over the User or the intended distribution itself. First, IANAL and not a native speaker nor a regular debian-legal reader, but I can't see what is exactly nonfree in this piece of licence. In my reading it just says, Apart from the you must follow the law clause, it also only allows derivates that are distributed substantially in the same form as set out herein. That is a restriction on modification, which fails the DFSG. Which indeed seems a restriction, but a little vague one, especially as the first two lines read: 'Each User may also freely distribute the Program, whether in its original form or modified, to any third party or parties'. But I think I agree now that the 'follow the law' stuff is a freedom-killer in it self. grts Tim
Re: d-i milo missing (might have fix)
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:46:33 -0400 Greg Folkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a DEC Alpha 1000/4 and a DEC Alpha 2100/4 (sable) that could be stand a linux install on them. . The 2100 would be the nasty one to get it to work on. They both require milo, the sable has never booted linux proper ever, as it's is the early version I know next to nothing about alphas other then, that I got a AlphaServer 2100 4/233 from my father-in-law once. Which I installed debian on quite easily with aboot... Not that I want you not to spend time on MILO, but I thought I'd tell you. grts Tim
Re: d-i milo missing (might have fix)
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:01:57 -0500 Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 10:27:01AM +0200, Tim Dijkstra wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:46:33 -0400 Greg Folkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a DEC Alpha 1000/4 and a DEC Alpha 2100/4 (sable) that could be stand a linux install on them. . The 2100 would be the nasty one to get it to work on. They both require milo, the sable has never booted linux proper ever, as it's is the early version I know next to nothing about alphas other then, that I got a AlphaServer 2100 4/233 from my father-in-law once. Which I installed debian on quite easily with aboot... Not that I want you not to spend time on MILO, but I thought I'd tell you. There are three reasons why using MILO may be necessary: - there's no version of SRM for your subarch - you need to dual-boot with WinNT (hah!) - you need the PC BIOS emulation features of ARC If none of these apply, then certainly, SRM+aboot is the way to go. Ahh, never realized somebody would want WinNT ;) thanks for the explanation, Tim
Re: Accepted galeon 1.3.7.20030825-1 (i386 source)
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 16:50:28 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker) wrote: That's over two months (and two releases) old. The current galeon in unstable is 1.3.7.20030813-1, which has the Add bookmark to submenu at the top of the bookmark menu. Huh?!? well I must be blind then... ii galeon 1.3.7.20030813-1 GNOME web browser for advanced users And I don't see no Add bookmark to-submenu. Are you sure you didn't do any manual tweeking of some configuration file? grts Tim
Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 18:28:27 +0200 Tore Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Petter Reinholdtsen - Preconfigure the packages we install I believe the best option would be to extend all the packages we use to make it possible to configure everything we need using debconf answers. God, No! There's far too many Debconf questions being asked by various Debian packages already, IMNSHO. If something like this should be implemented, I'd like to see these questions only be asked at reconfigure time, or not asked at all. That way Skulelinux could preseed the Debconf database and get the package working the way you want, while I can install Debian without going nuts about all the questions I'm asked. If is debconf used 'the right way' (tm) it is only a blessing. The only thing maintainers should do is assign the right priority to a question (Well and of course take care that all changes to configuration files are preserved). That way people that want automation or just like questions get what they want and people that want to rewrite configuration files just set a high priority and get a nice and quite apt-get update/install. grts Tim
Re: [OT] Storms (Re: Do not touch l10n files (was Re: DDTP issue))
On Wed, 14 May 2003 09:28:53 +0200 Martin Godisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 09:02:20 +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: Tormenta en un vaso de agua in Spanish. So it seems that french and spanish drink more water than tea. Sturm im Wasserglas in German. ;-) Storm in een glas water in Dutch. Tim
Re: location of UnicodeData.txt
On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 16:53:00 -0500 Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 04:23:51PM -0500, Jim Penny wrote: I see no problem with this license as far as it goes, but it doesn't go far enough. There is no permission granted to make modifications (and distribute modified versions). (DFSG 3) So, according to Branden, international standards are supposed to allow debian the right to modify them and to distribute the modified versions. No, international standards can say whatever they want, and bear whatever license the standards organization wants, within the law. Debian has its Free Software Guidelines and we do not, in theory, apply them differently based on who the licensor is. So doesn't this mean it's time to change the social contract or the DFSG (are standards software?) to make an exception for 'documents and files describing standards'. It's clear that we can't live without them (hence should be in main), and it is also clear there is no use in changing standards on you're own. And no I can't make an amendment, I'm not a DD. Tim
Re: location of UnicodeData.txt
On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:55:31 +0100 Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, we can live without standard in main. I never read ISO C and POSIX standards (because these was non free (like free beer)). But I program GNU/Linux in C. Also the RFC are not enough free, but I see no problem readint it in non-free. It would better to have those standard in 'main' and to be able to modify (translate, correct, collect, simplify,..), but yet... There is no use in changing standards without agreeing on it in some forum. UnicodeData is different, because we need the data in our program, not only the ideas. And it this case we see that as software! Maybe you're right that we don't really need the rfc's in main. They actually are now and it would be a shame if we dropped them. But we need files like this unicode file in main, which is part of a specification (I think), so can't be altered. grts Tim
Re: location of UnicodeData.txt
On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 17:57:35 +0200 Richard Braakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 02:58:38PM +0100, Tim Dijkstra wrote: UnicodeData is different, because we need the data in our program, not only the ideas. And it this case we see that as software! Maybe you're right that we don't really need the rfc's in main. They actually are now and it would be a shame if we dropped them. But we need files like this unicode file in main, which is part of a specification(I think), so can't be altered. But do you think it's _okay_ for such a file not to be free? (Whether it actually is or not is a topic for debian-legal). What I mean to say is that it's useless to demand that you can modify a 'standard', so yes, I think it's OK that it is DSFG non-free. What is the use of changing this unicode table, but not telling the rest of the world? grts Tim
