[OT] ifconfig(8)

2012-08-08 Thread Ivan Shmakov
 Marco d'Itri m...@linux.it writes:
 On Aug 08, Arno Töll a...@debian.org wrote:

  ifconfig and route were around already when everyone insisted on the
  separation of /bin and /sbin.  /bin/ip is slightly newer and
  supposed to replace ifconfig/route some day entirely.

  Just for the records, iproute entirely replaced ifconfig/route long
  ago.

Curiously enough, ifconfig(8) shows RX/TX byte counts, and,
somehow, I didn't manage to get a similar output from iproute.
Any pointers?  TIA.

  The only reason for keeping around the old programs is compatibility
  with other packages not yet updated and to not scare people who do
  not know better.

  (Does anybody want to try removing net-tools and see what breaks?)

I guess that $ apt-cache rdepends may be a safer check, like:

$ apt-cache rdepends --no-suggests net-tools 

However, it made me wonder, why ifupdown Suggests: net-tools?

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Re: [OT] ifconfig(8)

2012-08-08 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Ivan Shmakov oneing...@gmail.com writes:
   Curiously enough, ifconfig(8) shows RX/TX byte counts, and,
   somehow, I didn't manage to get a similar output from iproute.
   Any pointers?  TIA.

$ ip -s link show lo
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN 
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
RX: bytes  packets  errors  dropped overrun mcast   
1686679058 6901861  0   0   0   0  
TX: bytes  packets  errors  dropped carrier collsns 
1686679058 6901861  0   0   0   0  



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Re: [OT] ifconfig(8)

2012-08-08 Thread Ivan Shmakov
 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi writes:
 Ivan Shmakov oneing...@gmail.com writes:

  Curiously enough, ifconfig(8) shows RX/TX byte counts, and, somehow,
  I didn't manage to get a similar output from iproute.  Any pointers?
  TIA.

  $ ip -s link show lo
  1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN 
  link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
  RX: bytes  packets  errors  dropped overrun mcast   
  1686679058 6901861  0   0   0   0  
  TX: bytes  packets  errors  dropped carrier collsns 
  1686679058 6901861  0   0   0   0  

At last, I can forget about ifconfig(8).  Thanks!

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