Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 10:19:02PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: So by default it is assumed that I should make Ubuntu's work and dig into these patches to see if some pieces should be applied into Debian? No thanks, I am getting tired of all those Debian developers who are more interested in improving Ubuntu than Debian, and just added the following rules to my .procmailrc: :0 * ^From.*(ubuntu|canonical).com /dev/null Denis, pissed off PS: No, I am not joking Raphael ensured us that this would be an opt-in notification, and we agreed to provide the data feed for it under this assumption. If there was a configuration error which caused this not to be the case, please try not to overreact, be patient and allow it to be corrected. -- - mdz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006, Matt Zimmerman wrote: Denis, pissed off PS: No, I am not joking Raphael ensured us that this would be an opt-in notification, and we agreed to provide the data feed for it under this assumption. If there was a configuration error which caused this not to be the case, please try not to overreact, be patient and allow it to be corrected. I did what I said in the announce (ie initialize the derivatives keyword with the people who had 'already opt-in' for the cvs keyword). I had this discussion with Denis on IRC before and it's precicely for people like him that I added the keywordall command. There's nothing else to add. I did what's best im my PTS maintainer point of view. And since I did the work, I decided following my opinion. Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog Premier livre français sur Debian GNU/Linux : http://www.ouaza.com/livre/admin-debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
Denis, pissed off Well, what is the current temperature at noon in Toulouse? Like 40°C? May I respectfully suggest: :0 B: * .*Ubuntu.* /dev/null Alternative suggestion: Fridge, Beer, Pool, Holidays, Prepare good food to bring at next Debconf (Hint: Helsinki cheese party). signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hint: Helsinki cheese party Everybody polka!!! -miles -- Occam's razor split hairs so well, I bought the whole argument! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006, Christian Perrier wrote: Well, what is the current temperature at noon in Toulouse? Like 40°C? ... Fridge, Beer, Pool, Holidays, Prepare good food to bring at next Debconf (Hint: Helsinki cheese party). If nothing else helps try looking at http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/07/13/zidane_headbutt_outrage/ which is telling a story about how the world looks at another man from the south of France. :-)) Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
On 2006-07-18 00:10, Gustavo Franco wrote: Thanks Scott, i'll stop scottwatcher and update the current page[0] with details about the new stuff. [0] = http://people.debian.org/~stratus/scottwatcher/ This page is confusing ... it suggests that it's your scottwatcher script that's feeding the Debian PTS ... when this isn't the case. Scott -- Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
On 7/19/06, Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2006-07-18 00:10, Gustavo Franco wrote: Thanks Scott, i'll stop scottwatcher and update the current page[0] with details about the new stuff. [0] = http://people.debian.org/~stratus/scottwatcher/ This page is confusing ... it suggests that it's your scottwatcher script that's feeding the Debian PTS ... when this isn't the case. The page is outdated, scottwatcher was feeding the Debian PTS and used to work when the old patch scheme was being updated. The script was shutdown, as i said in my reply (see above). :-) regards, -- stratus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
On 2006-07-17 20:39, Raphael Hertzog wrote: The Ubuntu distribution will be the first to make use of this new feature -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
On 7/19/06, Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2006-07-17 20:39, Raphael Hertzog wrote: The Ubuntu distribution will be the first to make use of this new feature No, i've told him (and jvw if i recall correctly) about the scottwatcher's idea / PTS integration and they decided to use a new keyword (derivatives) to support more than Ubuntu. He missed that scottwatcher was the first, but it was almost useless fast since Ubuntu wasn't updating the patch list promptly. It wasn't in a public mailing list all the time, but one of my first messages about scottwatcher was to utnubu-discuss[0]. Well, anyway i've just updated the scottwatcher page in gluck to point out that this is now officially deprecated and Ubuntu is sending the mails to the PTS. [0] = http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/utnubu-discuss/2006-March/000466.html regards, -- stratus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006, Scott James Remnant wrote:
On 2006-07-17 20:39, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
The Ubuntu distribution will be the first to make use of this new feature.
Each time that a new package is uploaded to Ubuntu, the PTS will receive
the diff between the new version and the previous one. This way we'll
receive regularly small patches instead of having only a big monolithic
patch on http://patches.ubuntu.com/ (those will continue to be updated
anyway). Those mails will look like this:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-patches/2006-July/thread.html
Note that this isn't working right now (as of about 15 minutes ago); the
problem's somewhere at Debian's end (the PTS is rejecting our mails all
of a sudden) and Raphael will hopefully look into it.
I just did. Master's exim configuration has been changed today [1]. DSA
probably tried to improve the configuration since master.d.o has been
suffering from overload recently.
The check for the X-PTS-Approved header has been hardwired in exim4.conf
but the check is more strict that the one I used to have: I would only
require the header when sending mail to package@packages.qa.debian.org
and *not* when sending mails to package_keyword@packages.qa.debian.org
since those emails are not advertised and not (yet) spammed.
Dear admins, any chance to implement the same (looser) check in exim4.conf
instead of the current one?
In the mean time, anyone who is affected by this change should just add
the required header.
Cheers,
[1] I've found this in master's /etc/exim4/exim4.conf (which has been modified
today):
#!!# ACL that is used after the DATA command
check_message:
require verify = header_syntax
denyhosts = !+debianhosts
condition = ${if [EMAIL PROTECTED]
def:h_X-PTS-Approved:{false}{true}}}{false}}
message = messages to the PTS require an X-PTS-Approved header
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Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
On Mon, 17 Jul 2006, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: Is an archive of those mails available somewhere? This way the small patches will be available even for packages of people not subscribed to the PTS. Or for people who subscribe after some version has been uploaded to ubuntu. There's only the mailing list archive on the Ubuntu side for now. I agree that the PTS should have a web archive for all the content that is generated mainly for it and that is not simply relayed via it (like the BTS mails). Nobody has implemented that yet though, and it will also be quite expensive on disk size... (it shouldn't be a big worry however given the disk size that recent Debian servers tend to have) A dumb way to implement that is of course set up a mail account subscribed to all packages with the derivative keyword. I can set up such an account, but I guess there exists an easier solution for setting up the archive on the PTS side. Could you comment on that? Please don't go to the quick dirty route. With the scale of the PTS you would simply create unnecessary load for the mail processing that master.debian.org really doesn't need. The PTS scripts receive the mail directly, they can be patched to store a copy for the web frontend. Someone just needs to do it prperly... (cf my call for help at the of the announce ;-)). Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog Premier livre français sur Debian GNU/Linux : http://www.ouaza.com/livre/admin-debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 10:39:18PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Changing keyword on all subscriptions - The control bot has been expanded to support new commands to add/remove keyword on all subscriptions. People who are subscribed to packages with the cvs keyword and which do not wish to receive the mails sent to the new derivatives keyword can send one of those commands to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to deactivate this last keyword in all their subscriptions: keywordall - derivatives keywordall [EMAIL PROTECTED] - derivatives On the contrary people who want to have the derivatives keyword on all their subscriptions can use one of those commands: keywordall + derivatives keywordall [EMAIL PROTECTED] + derivatives This is so cool that I immediately went and did this... ... only to find out that it did this for debian-installer only (for which I'm subscribed to the 'cvs' keyword) rather than all my own packages (as I'd expected). Now of course I could go through all my packages and manually subscribe to the derivatives keyword for each, but that's going to require me to remember to set the derivatives keyword for any future package that I start maintaining. Would it be possible to implement something like a 'keywordmaint' command to set the keyword subscriptions for any current and future packages maintained by a given maintainer? -- Fun will now commence -- Seven Of Nine, Ashes to Ashes, stardate 53679.4 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
(btw, why was there a Mail-Followup-To: d-d-a?) Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The maintainer can thus subscribe to this specific keyword and be informed when Ubuntu introduces changes to their Debian package. Is there any documentation about which keywords the address in the Maintainer field of a package is subscribed to by default? Is it the same set that is described as default in http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/ch-resources.en.html#s-pkg-tracking-system, in other words the maintainer has to explicitly subscribe to the services upload-binary, cvs, ddtp and derivatives? TIA, Frank -- Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive)
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 06:59:41PM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote: Is an archive of those mails available somewhere? This way the small patches will be available even for packages of people not subscribed to the PTS. Or for people who subscribe after some version has been uploaded to ubuntu. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-patches/ I think having those patches sorted by per-package would be more usefull. Thus there could be a link on the packages.qa.debian.org/source page to these patches. But this is a great start. Now we just need to pressure Linspire, Xandros and friends to produce similar feeds. (Or write a big-brother script to monitor them ;) Cheers, Riku -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
also sprach Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.07.18.1157 +0200]: Would it be possible to implement something like a 'keywordmaint' command to set the keyword subscriptions for any current and future packages maintained by a given maintainer? The keywords are actually more a filter, so if you have derivatives on for an email and you subscribe with that email to a new package, you'll get the derivatives mails. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system health? what good is your health when you're otherwise an idiot? -- theodor w. adorno signature.asc Description: Digital signature (GPG/PGP)
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 01:04:06PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.07.18.1157 +0200]: command to set the keyword subscriptions for any current and future packages maintained by a given maintainer? The keywords are actually more a filter, so if you have derivatives on for an email and you subscribe with that email to a new package, you'll get the derivatives mails. This doesn't seem to answer Wouter question, or ... I'm misreading the PTS documentation. Each subscription subscribe you to a given (source) package. Keywords are actually a filter, but filter notification for a given package. Wouter was asking about a subscription that let you subscribe to all packages of a given maintainer e-mail address (of course with late-binding of the set of packages). This is something I'm very interested to have as well, but I don't think it is actually implemented. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -*- Computer Science PhD student @ Uny Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED],debian.org,bononia.it} -%- http://www.bononia.it/zack/ If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. -!- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
also sprach Stefano Zacchiroli [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.07.18.1318 +0200]: Each subscription subscribe you to a given (source) package. Keywords are actually a filter, but filter notification for a given package. No, you can have filters per email and filters per email/package tuple to override the former. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system it isn't pollution that's harming the environment. it's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it. - dan quayle signature.asc Description: Digital signature (GPG/PGP)
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 01:36:47PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Stefano Zacchiroli [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.07.18.1318 +0200]:
Each subscription subscribe you to a given (source) package. Keywords
are actually a filter, but filter notification for a given package.
No, you can have filters per email and filters per email/package
tuple to override the former.
I think you're referring to the following commands of the PTS email
interface:
keyword [email] {+|-|=} list of keywords
keyword sourcepackage [email] {+|-|=} list of keywords
You're right in stating that you can filter both per email and
email/package, but the subscriptions are per-package.
If I'm wrong, could you please point me to where is documented where I
can subscribe to all packages with Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that
when I upload a new package to the archive I will be subscribed to it
without having to chat again with the PTS? That's what was asked by
Wouter at the beginning of this thread, I believe.
Cheers.
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Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
also sprach Stefano Zacchiroli [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.07.18.1452 +0200]: If I'm wrong, could you please point me to where is documented where I can subscribe to all packages with Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that when I upload a new package to the archive I will be subscribed to it without having to chat again with the PTS? That's what was asked by Wouter at the beginning of this thread, I believe. Ah, then I misunderstood. However, what you are trying to do will hopefully soon be unnecessary as there are plans to auto-subscribe maintainers to the PTS and redirecting @packages.d.o mail there. Raphael has more details, but some are here: http://wiki.debian.org/qa.debian.org/pts -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system it usually takes more than three weeks to prepare a good impromptu speech. -- mark twain signature.asc Description: Digital signature (GPG/PGP)
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
Re: Wouter Verhelst 2006-07-18 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the contrary people who want to have the derivatives keyword on all their subscriptions can use one of those commands: keywordall + derivatives keywordall [EMAIL PROTECTED] + derivatives This is so cool that I immediately went and did this... ... only to find out that it did this for debian-installer only (for which I'm subscribed to the 'cvs' keyword) rather than all my own packages (as I'd expected). This was fixed by Raphaël earlier today; try again. It will now also update the default list of keywords for packages you haven't specified any keywords for when you subscribed. (For the details, look in master:/org/packages*/db/*.db) Christoph -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.df7cb.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 10:39:18PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Hello everybody, here are some news about the latest changes made to the Package Tracking System. New derivatives keyword --- The PTS will be used to relay informations from derivative distributions. Therefore, a new keyword derivatives has been implemented. By default, a PTS subscriber won't receive the messages associated to this keyword unless he has already manually activated the cvs keyword (i.e. the set of users having the derivatives keyword has been initialized as the set of users having the cvs keyword because those people can read patches and are most probably interested in them). So by default it is assumed that I should make Ubuntu's work and dig into these patches to see if some pieces should be applied into Debian? No thanks, I am getting tired of all those Debian developers who are more interested in improving Ubuntu than Debian, and just added the following rules to my .procmailrc: :0 * ^From.*(ubuntu|canonical).com /dev/null Denis, pissed off PS: No, I am not joking -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
On 7/18/06, Denis Barbier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 10:39:18PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Hello everybody, here are some news about the latest changes made to the Package Tracking System. New derivatives keyword --- The PTS will be used to relay informations from derivative distributions. Therefore, a new keyword derivatives has been implemented. By default, a PTS subscriber won't receive the messages associated to this keyword unless he has already manually activated the cvs keyword (i.e. the set of users having the derivatives keyword has been initialized as the set of users having the cvs keyword because those people can read patches and are most probably interested in them). So by default it is assumed that I should make Ubuntu's work and dig into these patches to see if some pieces should be applied into Debian? No thanks, I am getting tired of all those Debian developers who are more interested in improving Ubuntu than Debian, and just added the following rules to my .procmailrc: [...] No, this is just a service. If you want to dig into these patches, you need to subscribe, otherwise you can live without them like you did until now, didn't you? Please, think before replying my message and who you're hitting with your anger. regards, -- stratus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 05:33:45PM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote: On 7/18/06, Denis Barbier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 10:39:18PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Hello everybody, here are some news about the latest changes made to the Package Tracking System. New derivatives keyword --- The PTS will be used to relay informations from derivative distributions. Therefore, a new keyword derivatives has been implemented. By default, a PTS subscriber won't receive the messages associated to this keyword unless he has already manually activated the cvs keyword (i.e. the set of users having the derivatives keyword has been initialized as the set of users having the cvs keyword because those people can read patches and are most probably interested in them). So by default it is assumed that I should make Ubuntu's work and dig into these patches to see if some pieces should be applied into Debian? No thanks, I am getting tired of all those Debian developers who are more interested in improving Ubuntu than Debian, and just added the following rules to my .procmailrc: [...] No, this is just a service. If you want to dig into these patches, you need to subscribe, otherwise you can live without them like you did until now, didn't you? No, I have to unsubscribe, this is exactly what upsets me. There are also cases where messages will be sent to lists, like http://lists.debian.org/debian-dpkg/2006/07/msg00021.html So my procmail rule is the best option. Denis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
Denis Barbier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So by default it is assumed that I should make Ubuntu's work and dig into these patches to see if some pieces should be applied into Debian? No thanks, I am getting tired of all those Debian developers who are more interested in improving Ubuntu than Debian, and just added the following rules to my .procmailrc: How does dropping potentially useful patches improve Debian? -- Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
On 7/18/06, Denis Barbier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 05:33:45PM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote: On 7/18/06, Denis Barbier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 10:39:18PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Hello everybody, here are some news about the latest changes made to the Package Tracking System. New derivatives keyword --- The PTS will be used to relay informations from derivative distributions. Therefore, a new keyword derivatives has been implemented. By default, a PTS subscriber won't receive the messages associated to this keyword unless he has already manually activated the cvs keyword (i.e. the set of users having the derivatives keyword has been initialized as the set of users having the cvs keyword because those people can read patches and are most probably interested in them). So by default it is assumed that I should make Ubuntu's work and dig into these patches to see if some pieces should be applied into Debian? No thanks, I am getting tired of all those Debian developers who are more interested in improving Ubuntu than Debian, and just added the following rules to my .procmailrc: [...] No, this is just a service. If you want to dig into these patches, you need to subscribe, otherwise you can live without them like you did until now, didn't you? No, I have to unsubscribe, this is exactly what upsets me. There are also cases where messages will be sent to lists, like http://lists.debian.org/debian-dpkg/2006/07/msg00021.html So my procmail rule is the best option. I think you were subscribed using the 'cvs' keyword, right? cvs CVS commit notifications, if the package has a CVS repository and the maintainer has set up forwarding commit notifications to the PTS. Source: http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-resources.en.html#s-pkg-tracking-system If it's ok for you dig into these patches that you or somebody else (other maintainer) is forwarding to the PTS but not dig into patches coming from derivatives, i'm sorry but you will need to unsubscribe. The intention was the best possible, really. regards, -- stratus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
On 7/17/06, Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] New derivatives keyword --- [...] The Ubuntu distribution will be the first to make use of this new feature. Each time that a new package is uploaded to Ubuntu, the PTS will receive the diff between the new version and the previous one. This way we'll receive regularly small patches instead of having only a big monolithic patch on http://patches.ubuntu.com/ (those will continue to be updated anyway). Those mails will look like this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-patches/2006-July/thread.html [...] Please tell me when they start doing this, so i'll stop scottwatcher. thanks, -- stratus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 10:39:18PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: New derivatives keyword --- Each time that a new package is uploaded to Ubuntu, the PTS will receive the diff between the new version and the previous one. This way we'll Is an archive of those mails available somewhere? This way the small patches will be available even for packages of people not subscribed to the PTS. Or for people who subscribe after some version has been uploaded to ubuntu. A dumb way to implement that is of course set up a mail account subscribed to all packages with the derivative keyword. I can set up such an account, but I guess there exists an easier solution for setting up the archive on the PTS side. Could you comment on that? Thanks for all this work! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -*- Computer Science PhD student @ Uny Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED],debian.org,bononia.it} -%- http://www.bononia.it/zack/ If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. -!- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
On 7/17/06, Stefano Zacchiroli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 10:39:18PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: New derivatives keyword --- Each time that a new package is uploaded to Ubuntu, the PTS will receive the diff between the new version and the previous one. This way we'll Is an archive of those mails available somewhere? This way the small patches will be available even for packages of people not subscribed to the PTS. Or for people who subscribe after some version has been uploaded to ubuntu. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-patches/ A dumb way to implement that is of course set up a mail account subscribed to all packages with the derivative keyword. I can set up such an account, but I guess there exists an easier solution for setting up the archive on the PTS side. Could you comment on that? Maybe we need to mirror the ubuntu-patches mailing list archive. utnubu's work, i guess. :-) regards, -- stratus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 06:59:41PM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-patches/ That's indeed great to address my concern but ... A dumb way to implement that is of course set up a mail account subscribed to all packages with the derivative keyword. I can set up such an account, but I guess there exists an easier solution for setting up the archive on the PTS side. Could you comment on that? Maybe we need to mirror the ubuntu-patches mailing list archive. utnubu's work, i guess. :-) ... does not extend to other possible derivatives. I agree that mirroring that list could be a work for utnubu, but a more general solution would be to provide an archive of pts notifications. Don't know if at large (i.e. for all keywords) or only for derivatives (a reason for this could be that for all other keywords we actually can reproduce the event who triggered the notification; I'm actually not sure if this is the case or not). Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -*- Computer Science PhD student @ Uny Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED],debian.org,bononia.it} -%- http://www.bononia.it/zack/ If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. -!- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
On 2006-07-17 20:48, Gustavo Franco wrote: On 7/17/06, Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] New derivatives keyword --- [...] The Ubuntu distribution will be the first to make use of this new feature. Each time that a new package is uploaded to Ubuntu, the PTS will receive the diff between the new version and the previous one. This way we'll receive regularly small patches instead of having only a big monolithic patch on http://patches.ubuntu.com/ (those will continue to be updated anyway). Those mails will look like this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-patches/2006-July/thread.html [...] Please tell me when they start doing this, so i'll stop scottwatcher. We were just waiting on Raphael announcing the changes to the PTS before we started sending, so as not to surprise anyone -- they are being sent now (assuming everything works g) Scott -- Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
On 7/17/06, Stefano Zacchiroli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 06:59:41PM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-patches/ That's indeed great to address my concern but ... A dumb way to implement that is of course set up a mail account subscribed to all packages with the derivative keyword. I can set up such an account, but I guess there exists an easier solution for setting up the archive on the PTS side. Could you comment on that? Maybe we need to mirror the ubuntu-patches mailing list archive. utnubu's work, i guess. :-) ... does not extend to other possible derivatives. I agree that mirroring that list could be a work for utnubu, but a more general solution would be to provide an archive of pts notifications. Don't know if at large (i.e. for all keywords) or only for derivatives (a reason for this could be that for all other keywords we actually can reproduce the event who triggered the notification; I'm actually not sure if this is the case or not). You've a point, but since there are no other derivative doing the same (they should), i think the mirror would be enough atm. regards, -- stratus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System
On 7/17/06, Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2006-07-17 20:48, Gustavo Franco wrote: On 7/17/06, Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] New derivatives keyword --- [...] The Ubuntu distribution will be the first to make use of this new feature. Each time that a new package is uploaded to Ubuntu, the PTS will receive the diff between the new version and the previous one. This way we'll receive regularly small patches instead of having only a big monolithic patch on http://patches.ubuntu.com/ (those will continue to be updated anyway). Those mails will look like this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-patches/2006-July/thread.html [...] Please tell me when they start doing this, so i'll stop scottwatcher. We were just waiting on Raphael announcing the changes to the PTS before we started sending, so as not to surprise anyone -- they are being sent now (assuming everything works g) Thanks Scott, i'll stop scottwatcher and update the current page[0] with details about the new stuff. [0] = http://people.debian.org/~stratus/scottwatcher/ regards, -- stratus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
