Re: Bits from the release team: Release goals, schedule, state of the union
Steffen Joeris steffen.joe...@skolelinux.de writes:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 06:51:48 am Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
Release Goals
=
[...]
- kFreeBSD:
Debian 6.0 Squeeze should be the first Debian release shipping with
a non-Linux kernel.
Out of curiosity, how is security support working for this and who is
providing it?
We [1] were hoping that kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} would be handled like i386
and amd64 and be supported by the security team.
As we know that the security team's manpower is limited, we acknowledge
this by asking you for any concers in supporting a architecture. For the
Squeeze cycle, this hasn't been done yet [2], as we haven't decided yet
which of the old architectures can't be supported from a release team
point of view.
Including kFreeBSD architectures in the release has been in discussion
for some time now, and we didn't see any official security team position
on this yet, thus assumed there were no (big) concers. Should you have
see some, please inform us soon.
Thanks,
Marc
Footnotes:
[1] Release Team
[2] see http://release.debian.org/squeeze/arch_qualify.html
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Re: Bits from the release team: Release goals, schedule, state of the union
Hi Marc
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:23:09 pm Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
Steffen Joeris steffen.joe...@skolelinux.de writes:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 06:51:48 am Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
Release Goals
=
[...]
- kFreeBSD:
Debian 6.0 Squeeze should be the first Debian release shipping with
a non-Linux kernel.
Out of curiosity, how is security support working for this and who is
providing it?
We [1] were hoping that kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} would be handled like i386
and amd64 and be supported by the security team.
As we know that the security team's manpower is limited, we acknowledge
this by asking you for any concers in supporting a architecture. For the
Squeeze cycle, this hasn't been done yet [2], as we haven't decided yet
which of the old architectures can't be supported from a release team
point of view.
Including kFreeBSD architectures in the release has been in discussion
for some time now, and we didn't see any official security team position
on this yet, thus assumed there were no (big) concers. Should you have
see some, please inform us soon.
For kernel-security support, we have Dann Frazier in the security team, who is
also working in the kernel team (and of course other kernel team members might
help on security behind the curtain).
Now I am not sure how to do it for another kernel, because the rest of the
team is usually busy with the rest of the archive. Maybe it would be a good
idea to see, if someone from the kfreeBSD kernel team would be willing to
help? Also, I guess Dann or someone else from the sec team should probably
comment on this as well.
Cheers
Steffen
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Re: Bits from the release team: Release goals, schedule, state of the union
* Steffen Joeris (steffen.joe...@skolelinux.de) [090826 08:53]: For kernel-security support, we have Dann Frazier in the security team, who is also working in the kernel team (and of course other kernel team members might help on security behind the curtain). So your basic concern is: Who will support the kbsd-specific packages (kernel plus kernel-near userland)? (The other packages shouldn't be an issue, or?) Cheers, Andi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Bits from the release team: Release goals, schedule, state of the union
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:58:24 pm Andreas Barth wrote: * Steffen Joeris (steffen.joe...@skolelinux.de) [090826 08:53]: For kernel-security support, we have Dann Frazier in the security team, who is also working in the kernel team (and of course other kernel team members might help on security behind the curtain). So your basic concern is: Who will support the kbsd-specific packages (kernel plus kernel-near userland)? (The other packages shouldn't be an issue, or?) Yeah basically, I mean they should be supported from within the security team, but I was wondering, whether we have a particular individual appointed for it (like for the linux kernel) or how the details should look like. I just reread my first response to Marc and saw that it could have been read as very sarcastic and rude, my apologies that wasn't the intention I wrote that sentence in a hurry. Cheers Steffen P.S. The comments/ideas/questions in this thread are my own, not the view of the security team. P.P.S. We could probably drop -devel from this thread. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Bits from the release team: Release goals, schedule, state of the union
Hello, 2009/8/25 Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt h...@debian.org: Release Goals = We have now reviewed the list of release goals [RT-Goals] and have ACKed most of the proposed things. A short overview: - multiarch We hope to allow our users to install binaries for several architectures on a single machine in Squeeze. Just as a minor correction, the goal is to install shared libraries and include files for several architectures, instead binaries, that might be done at squeeze+1, but the picture has not been drawn yet. Have a nice day ! -- Héctor Orón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Bits from the release team: Release goals, schedule, state of the union
- kFreeBSD: Debian 6.0 Squeeze should be the first Debian release shipping with a non-Linux kernel. Out of curiosity, how is security support working for this and who is providing it? The upstream provides their own security advisories, see http://security.freebsd.org/ http://security.freebsd.org/advisories.html They could be reused. Petr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Bits from the release team: Release goals, schedule, state of the union
Hector Oron hector.o...@gmail.com writes: Hello, 2009/8/25 Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt h...@debian.org: Release Goals = We have now reviewed the list of release goals [RT-Goals] and have ACKed most of the proposed things. A short overview: - multiarch We hope to allow our users to install binaries for several architectures on a single machine in Squeeze. Just as a minor correction, the goal is to install shared libraries and include files for several architectures, instead binaries, that might be done at squeeze+1, but the picture has not been drawn yet. Have a nice day ! Both statements are ambigious. Correct me if I'm wrong but the plan is to allow installing of multiple architectures of the same shared library in parallel and installing binaries from different architectures but never the same binary from multiple architectures in parallel. So far there is no plan at all at allowing multiple architectures for the same binary to be installed in parallel other than individual packages using alternatives or a common wrapper script where it is really needed. At least that is my understanding of the proposaland surrounding discussions. MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Bits from the release team: Release goals, schedule, state of the union
Hello, 2009/8/26 Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de: Hector Oron hector.o...@gmail.com writes: Just as a minor correction, the goal is to install shared libraries and include files for several architectures, instead binaries, that might be done at squeeze+1, but the picture has not been drawn yet. Both statements are ambigious. Correct me if I'm wrong but the plan is to allow installing of multiple architectures of the same shared library in parallel and installing binaries from different architectures but never the same binary from multiple architectures in parallel. ATM, that's the plan. So far there is no plan at all at allowing multiple architectures for the same binary to be installed in parallel other than individual packages using alternatives or a common wrapper script where it is really needed. Right, this plan needs to be written (as an extension to current spec) and it needs to be taken under consideration but not for squeeze release, but for squeeze+X release. Kind regards, -- Héctor Orón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Bits from the release team: Release goals, schedule, state of the union
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 06:51:48 am Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: Heya, This mail should be the first in a row of roughly monthly mails informing the project about the state of the release. Please don't hesitate to contact us on debian-rele...@lists.debian.org whenever you have questions. Release Goals = We have now reviewed the list of release goals [RT-Goals] and have ACKed most of the proposed things. A short overview: - multiarch We hope to allow our users to install binaries for several architectures on a single machine in Squeeze. - kFreeBSD: Debian 6.0 Squeeze should be the first Debian release shipping with a non-Linux kernel. Out of curiosity, how is security support working for this and who is providing it? Cheers Steffen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
