Re: [pkg-boost-devel] Boost defaults change (1.46.1 -- 1.48)

2011-12-28 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi,

 I'm bcc'ing this email to maintainers of the list of packages, below.
 Each of you, I'd appreciate it if you could check with the upstream
 authors whether a fix is already available.  Please send an update
 to the appropriate bug with the upstream response or mark the bug
 forwarded to the upstream issue.  I'm hoping that some of these
 can be fixed very quickly and we'll shortly know the true impact
 of a boost defaults change.
 libreoffice 1:3.4.4-2 Failed [GCC_ERROR] #652784: libreoffice: FTBFS:
 acceleratorcache.cxx:64:29: error: no match for 'operator=' in
 '((framework::AcceleratorCache*)this)-framework::AcceleratorCache::m_lCommand2Keys
  =
 rCopy.framework::AcceleratorCache::m_lCommand2Keys'

This is already forwarded etc. and I already said various times that it will be 
in the next upload (currently planned to be 3.4.5-1, see 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/3.4#3.4.5_release).

But what worries me more is that you AGAIN ignored 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=652681. Ignoring #652681 
doesn't make the build failure on the version which is supposed to be in wheezy 
go away...

Regards,

Rene


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Re: [pkg-boost-devel] Boost defaults change (1.46.1 -- 1.48)

2011-12-28 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Steve M. Robbins steve at sumost.ca writes:

 OK, with thanks to Lucas Nussbaum for the build results, I can report
 that only the following 23 of 237 boost rdep packages failed to build
 with boost-defaults pointing to 1.48.  This shouldn't take a lot of

Hrm, I don’t see aptitude in there, but get this:

[…]
checking for boost/fusion/algorithm/transformation/join.hpp... yes
checking boost/fusion/algorithm/transformation/push_back.hpp usability... yes
checking boost/fusion/algorithm/transformation/push_back.hpp presence... yes
checking for boost/fusion/algorithm/transformation/push_back.hpp... yes
checking boost/fusion/algorithm/transformation/push_front.hpp usability... no
checking boost/fusion/algorithm/transformation/push_front.hpp presence... yes
configure: WARNING: boost/fusion/algorithm/transformation/push_front.hpp: 
present but cannot be compiled
configure: WARNING: boost/fusion/algorithm/transformation/push_front.hpp: 
check for missing prerequisite headers?
configure: WARNING: boost/fusion/algorithm/transformation/push_front.hpp: see 
the Autoconf documentation
configure: WARNING: boost/fusion/algorithm/transformation/push_front.hpp: 
section Present But Cannot Be Compiled
configure: WARNING: boost/fusion/algorithm/transformation/push_front.hpp: 
proceeding with the compiler's result
checking for boost/fusion/algorithm/transformation/push_front.hpp... no
configure: error: in `/tmp/buildd/aptitude-0.6.4/build-gtk':
configure: error: Boost install not found, too old, or incomplete; install 
libboost-dev.
See `config.log' for more details
make: *** [build-stamp-gtk] Error 1
dpkg-buildpackage: error: fakeroot debian/rules binary-arch gave error exit 
status 2
E: Failed autobuilding of package


This is aptitude_0.6.4-1.2.dsc with libboost1.48-dev (1.48.0-2) and friends.

PS: Please Cc me on replies of interest to me, I don’t read here. Thanks.


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Re: [pkg-boost-devel] Boost defaults change (1.46.1 -- 1.48)

2011-12-28 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 28/12/11 at 13:50 +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
 Steve M. Robbins steve at sumost.ca writes:
 
  OK, with thanks to Lucas Nussbaum for the build results, I can report
  that only the following 23 of 237 boost rdep packages failed to build
  with boost-defaults pointing to 1.48.  This shouldn't take a lot of
 
 Hrm, I don’t see aptitude in there, but get this:

Oops, for some reason it seems that only 13702 source packages were
rebuilt. So there might be some other build failures related to boost.

Lucas


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Re: [pkg-boost-devel] Boost defaults change (1.46.1 -- 1.48)

2011-12-28 Thread Steve M. Robbins
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:47:34PM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote:

 But what worries me more is that you AGAIN ignored
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=652681. 

I was working off a rebuild of SID.  Perhaps my last message didn't
clearly state that.  So all the bugs reported were for the SID
versions of the package.  652681 concerns a newer version found
only in experimental as far as I know.

That's not to say that I don't think the bug is important.  It is
important.


 Ignoring
 #652681 doesn't make the build failure on the version which is
 supposed to be in wheezy go away...

Of course.  So if you want my advice, here is what I would do about
it.  First, to help the gcc maintainers, complete the bug report
according to file:///usr/share/doc/gcc-4.6/README.Bugs.  Second,
when the time comes to upload libreoffice 3.5 to unstable, select one
of the two following options:

1. If 652681 is fixed, upload as-is.
2. If not, change boost build-deps to 1.46 version and upload.

Hope this helps,
-Steve



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Re: Boost defaults change (1.46.1 -- 1.48)

2011-12-27 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 26/12/11 at 22:40 -0600, Steve M. Robbins wrote:
 Hello,
 
 The latest Boost (1.48) is now in testing, and I'd like to switch the
 defaults.  My first plan was to simply announce the switch then make
 it.  I did so and got an immediate email from the release team
 asking to revert the default change, which I did.
 
 
 On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 08:00:15PM -0600, Steve M. Robbins wrote:
  On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 10:33:26PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote:
 
   I heard of at least two failures in the last couple of hours:
   libreoffice (#652681), and wesnoth (#652677).  As such, I'd appreciate
   if you could:
   - revert boost-defaults to 1.46 for the time being
  
  Done.
  
   - test-build at least the most prominent reverse deps against 1.48
 before bumping it again
   - contact debian-release before that bump, so we can coordinate a timing
 that doesn't suck with regards to other ongoing transitions.
 
 Now I'd like to coordinate a time for the change.  
 
 I'd like to point out that any resulting build failures are quite easy
 to fix: either
  (a) contact package upstream for boost 1.48 changes; or 
  (b) change the build-dependency from libboostfoo-dev to libboostfoo1.46-dev.
 
 It would be quite helpful to do a rebuild of the 237 boost reverse
 dependencies.  Lucas Nussbaum seems to be able to do this: can you run
 a rebuild with updated boost-defaults?

I already did that, since i did a rebuild while boost-defaults was
pointing to .46. You can find the results in collab-qa svn, in
archive-rebuilds/2011-12-20-lsid64-amd64

If it's only 237 packages, I would prefer if you rebuilt them manually:
the time taken to organize the rebuild is likely to be higher than the
time it would take to just rebuild them locally.

Lucas


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Re: Boost defaults change (1.46.1 -- 1.48)

2011-12-27 Thread Thomas Krennwallner
Hi!

On Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:42:07AM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote:
  I'd like to point out that any resulting build failures are quite easy
  to fix: either
   (a) contact package upstream for boost 1.48 changes; or 
 
 It is? #652681 doesn't look like it.
 Will 1.46 be around long enough that reverting to 1.46 is an option there?
 The wheezy release should be with 3.5.0..

As long as something depends on 1.46, I assume that it should be
around. The current situation is sub-optimal, because almost everything
depends on the non-versioned boost libs of boost-defaults, despite
boost's tendency to break packages when switching to a new version.

The question is, which strategy is better?

 (1) Clearly record the dependencies in packages that depend on boost,
 i.e., Build-Depends on libboost-foo1.46-dev instead of
 libboost-foo-dev, or
 (2) let boost-defaults decide which version of boost is the currently
 stable boost.

IMHO (2) just hides FTBSes of the packages.

Cheers,
TK

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Re: Boost defaults change (1.46.1 -- 1.48)

2011-12-27 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi,

 I'd like to point out that any resulting build failures are quite easy
 to fix: either
  (a) contact package upstream for boost 1.48 changes; or 

It is? #652681 doesn't look like it.
Will 1.46 be around long enough that reverting to 1.46 is an option there?
The wheezy release should be with 3.5.0..

 It would be quite helpful to do a rebuild of the 237 boost reverse
 dependencies.  Lucas Nussbaum seems to be able to do this: can you run
 a rebuild with updated boost-defaults?

At least libreoffice is affected by 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=652784.

(Pending and just needs upload, which is planned mid-Jan:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/3.4#3.4.5_release)

Regards,

Rene


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Re: Boost defaults change (1.46.1 -- 1.48)

2011-12-27 Thread Steve M. Robbins
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:42:07AM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote:
 Hi,
 
  I'd like to point out that any resulting build failures are quite easy
  to fix: either
   (a) contact package upstream for boost 1.48 changes; or 
 
 It is? #652681 doesn't look like it.

I'll just note that an Internal Compiler Error is always a bug in the
compiler, by definition.  It may be true that boost exposed it, but
boost is not the cause of the compiler bug.  It would be helpful if
you provided more details for the gcc folks.


 Will 1.46 be around long enough that reverting to 1.46 is an option there?

Absolutely, 1.46 is an option.  That's why I suggested it.  Debian has
been releasing with at least two boost versions for a while now.  The
less-up-to-date version is often dictated by needs of other packages,
such as libreoffice.


 At least libreoffice is affected by 
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=652784.
 

The upstream bug reports a one-liner fix of building with -std=c++0x.  
Does that work for Debian?

Cheers,
-Steve


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Re: Boost defaults change (1.46.1 -- 1.48)

2011-12-27 Thread Steve M. Robbins
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 04:45:21PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
 On 26/12/11 at 22:40 -0600, Steve M. Robbins wrote:

  It would be quite helpful to do a rebuild of the 237 boost reverse
  dependencies.  Lucas Nussbaum seems to be able to do this: can you run
  a rebuild with updated boost-defaults?
 
 I already did that, since i did a rebuild while boost-defaults was
 pointing to .46. You can find the results in collab-qa svn, in
 archive-rebuilds/2011-12-20-lsid64-amd64

Great, thanks!

 If it's only 237 packages, I would prefer if you rebuilt them manually:
 the time taken to organize the rebuild is likely to be higher than the
 time it would take to just rebuild them locally.

Note that I am starting from scratch.  I know how to use pbuilder and
how to manually download and build a package.  At my present rate of
1-2 per week, it would take me several years to rebuild them all
locally.

Are there scripts etc to automate this somewhere?

Thanks,
-Steve



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Re: Boost defaults change (1.46.1 -- 1.48)

2011-12-27 Thread Steve M. Robbins
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 11:28:14AM +0100, Thomas Krennwallner wrote:

 As long as something depends on 1.46, I assume that it should be
 around. The current situation is sub-optimal, because almost everything
 depends on the non-versioned boost libs of boost-defaults, despite
 boost's tendency to break packages when switching to a new version.

In fairness, boost doesn't break everything on each release, though it
often feels like it :-).  One issue with boost is that it is really a
conglomeration of several dozen libraries, some of which are quite
stable.  Others are less so, sometimes by intention, sometimes
inadvertently.

The other big issue with boost is they have an agressive release
schedule of 4 times/year.


 The question is, which strategy is better?
 
  (1) Clearly record the dependencies in packages that depend on boost,
  i.e., Build-Depends on libboost-foo1.46-dev instead of
  libboost-foo-dev, or
  (2) let boost-defaults decide which version of boost is the currently
  stable boost.
 
 IMHO (2) just hides FTBSes of the packages.

I will offer a third strategy:

   (3) Offer boost-defaults for: advanced users, for packages that
   generally stick to the stable parts of boost, for packages that
   or have upstream authors that track the latest boost.
   Other packages can build to versioned boost dev packages known
   to work.

Due to the frequent boost releases, there is a large cost to using the
versioned dependencies, so I encourage using the non-versioned
packages when possible.  This is an evolving process and I think we're
still learning which category a given package might fall into.  So
it's not a surprise that some adjustments are necessary with each
boost release.

And, of course, there are the standard number of bugs in a given boost
release so even if unversioned devs is the right strategy for a
given package, a new boost may still break it until a boost bug is
fixed.

Regards,
-Steve


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Re: Boost defaults change (1.46.1 -- 1.48)

2011-12-27 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Tue, 2011-12-27 at 10:52 -0600, Steve M. Robbins wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:42:07AM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote:
  Will 1.46 be around long enough that reverting to 1.46 is an option there?
 
 Absolutely, 1.46 is an option.  That's why I suggested it.  Debian has
 been releasing with at least two boost versions for a while now.  The
 less-up-to-date version is often dictated by needs of other packages,
 such as libreoffice.

fwiw, Squeeze shipped with only one boost version (1.42).

Regards,

Adam


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Re: Boost defaults change (1.46.1 -- 1.48)

2011-12-27 Thread Steve M. Robbins
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 06:32:16PM +, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
 On Tue, 2011-12-27 at 10:52 -0600, Steve M. Robbins wrote:
  On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:42:07AM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote:
   Will 1.46 be around long enough that reverting to 1.46 is an option there?
  
  Absolutely, 1.46 is an option.  That's why I suggested it.  Debian has
  been releasing with at least two boost versions for a while now.  The
  less-up-to-date version is often dictated by needs of other packages,
  such as libreoffice.
 
 fwiw, Squeeze shipped with only one boost version (1.42).

I stand corrected.

[I mostly pay attention to unstable, which has generally had two
versions available for a long while.  I'm going to avoid making
absolute statements now :-)]

-Steve


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Re: [pkg-boost-devel] Boost defaults change (1.46.1 -- 1.48)

2011-12-27 Thread Steve M. Robbins
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 11:20:16AM -0600, Steve M. Robbins wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 04:45:21PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
  On 26/12/11 at 22:40 -0600, Steve M. Robbins wrote:
 
   It would be quite helpful to do a rebuild of the 237 boost reverse
   dependencies.  Lucas Nussbaum seems to be able to do this: can you run
   a rebuild with updated boost-defaults?
  
  I already did that, since i did a rebuild while boost-defaults was
  pointing to .46. You can find the results in collab-qa svn, in
  archive-rebuilds/2011-12-20-lsid64-amd64

OK, with thanks to Lucas Nussbaum for the build results, I can report
that only the following 23 of 237 boost rdep packages failed to build
with boost-defaults pointing to 1.48.  This shouldn't take a lot of
effort to bring down to a manageable level and it looks like bugs are
already filed.

I'm bcc'ing this email to maintainers of the list of packages, below.
Each of you, I'd appreciate it if you could check with the upstream
authors whether a fix is already available.  Please send an update
to the appropriate bug with the upstream response or mark the bug
forwarded to the upstream issue.  I'm hoping that some of these
can be fixed very quickly and we'll shortly know the true impact
of a boost defaults change.

Thanks very much,
-Steve



agave 0.4.7-2 Failed [GCC_ERROR] #564850 RECHECK
anytun 0.3.3-2.1 Failed [GCC_ERROR] #652767: anytun: FTBFS: 
syncServer.cpp:112:92: error: 'boost::asio::ip::tcp::acceptor' has no member 
named 'io_service'
drizzle 2011.03.13-1 Failed [UNKNOWN] #647743
ember 0.5.7-1.1 Failed [BUILDDEPS] #629767: ember: FTBFS: build-dependency not 
installable: libceguiogre-dev RECHECK
fgrun 1.6.0-1 Failed [UNKNOWN] #652775: fgrun: FTBFS: Singleton.hxx:4:43: fatal 
error: boost/pool/detail/singleton.hpp: No such file or directory
flightgear 2.4.0-1 Failed [UNKNOWN] #652797: flightgear: FTBFS: 
Singleton.hxx:4:43: fatal error: boost/pool/detail/singleton.hpp: No such file 
or directory
gnuradio 3.2.2.dfsg-1.1 Failed [UNKNOWN] #642716: gnuradio: FTBFS: 
gr_vmcircbuf_createfilemapping: createfilemapping is not available RECHECK
gpsdrive 2.10~pre4-6.dfsg-5.1 Failed [GCC_ERROR] #646446: gpsdrive: FTBFS: 
mapnik.cpp:33:15: error: 'mapnik::Image32' has not been declared RECHECK
libreoffice 1:3.4.4-2 Failed [GCC_ERROR] #652784: libreoffice: FTBFS: 
acceleratorcache.cxx:64:29: error: no match for 'operator=' in 
'((framework::AcceleratorCache*)this)-framework::AcceleratorCache::m_lCommand2Keys
 = rCopy.framework::AcceleratorCache::m_lCommand2Keys'
openvrml 0.18.8-5 Failed [GCC_ERROR] #652790: openvrml: FTBFS: 
scope_guard.hpp:122:29: error: 'boost::mpl' has not been declared
ovito 0.9.2-1 Failed [UNKNOWN] #652795: ovito: FTBFS: 
usr/include/boost/type_traits/detail/has_binary_operator.hp:50: Parse error at 
BOOST_JOIN
pinot 0.96-1.1 Failed [GCC_ERROR] #652786: pinot: FTBFS: Memory.h:184:11: 
error: 'singleton_default' in namespace 'boost::details::pool' does not name a 
type
python-visual 1:5.12-1.3 Failed [GCC_ERROR] #652798: python-visual: FTBFS: 
random_device.cpp:30:63: error: 'const result_type 
boost::random::random_device::min_value' is not a static member of 'class 
boost::random::random_device'
qt-gstreamer 0.10.1-2 Failed [UNKNOWN] TODO NEWFAIL
salome 5.1.3-12 Failed [BUILDDEPS] #629765: salome: FTBFS: build-dependency not 
installable: sip4 RECHECK
scenic 0.6.3-1 Failed [UNKNOWN] #615772 RECHECK
simgear 2.4.0-1 Failed [UNKNOWN] #652788: simgear: FTBFS: 
../../simgear/structure/Singleton.hxx:4:43: fatal error: 
boost/pool/detail/singleton.hpp: No such file or directory
smc 1.9-4 Failed [UNKNOWN] #646464: smc: FTBFS: 
audio/../core/../objects/../objects/../video/video.h:26:62: fatal error: 
RendererModules/OpenGLGUIRenderer/openglrenderer.h: No such file or directory 
RECHECK
spring 0.82.7.1+dfsg1-3 Failed [GCC_ERROR] #652768: spring: FTBFS: 
FPUSettings.h:322:15: error: expected unqualified-id before '__const'
sslsniff 0.8-2 Failed [GCC_ERROR] #652756: sslsniff: FTBFS: 
SSLConnectionManager.cpp:47:74: error: 'boost::asio::ip::tcp::acceptor' has no 
member named 'io_service'
strigi 0.7.6-2 Failed [UNKNOWN] #618118: strigi: FTBFS: dh_makeshlibs: 
dpkg-gensymbols -plibsearchclient0 -Idebian/libsearchclient0.symbols.amd64 
-Pdebian/libsearchclient0 returned exit code 1 RECHECK
wesnoth-1.8 1:1.8.6-1 Failed [GCC_ERROR] #652765: wesnoth-1.8: FTBFS: 
noncopyable.hpp:27:7: error: 
'boost::noncopyable_::noncopyable::noncopyable(const 
boost::noncopyable_::noncopyable)' is private
witty 3.1.10-1 Failed [GCC_ERROR] #642674: witty: FTBFS: WPdfImage.C:74:30: 
error: 'HPDF_UseUTFEncodings' was not declared in this scope RECHECK




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Re: Boost defaults change (1.46.1 -- 1.48)

2011-12-27 Thread gregor herrmann
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 11:20:16 -0600, Steve M. Robbins wrote:

 Note that I am starting from scratch.  I know how to use pbuilder and
 how to manually download and build a package.  At my present rate of
 1-2 per week, it would take me several years to rebuild them all
 locally.
 
 Are there scripts etc to automate this somewhere?

An example is in the pbuilder package:
/usr/share/doc/pbuilder/examples/rebuild/


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Boost defaults change (1.46.1 -- 1.48)

2011-12-26 Thread Steve M. Robbins
Hello,

The latest Boost (1.48) is now in testing, and I'd like to switch the
defaults.  My first plan was to simply announce the switch then make
it.  I did so and got an immediate email from the release team
asking to revert the default change, which I did.


On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 08:00:15PM -0600, Steve M. Robbins wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 10:33:26PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote:

  I heard of at least two failures in the last couple of hours:
  libreoffice (#652681), and wesnoth (#652677).  As such, I'd appreciate
  if you could:
  - revert boost-defaults to 1.46 for the time being
 
 Done.
 
  - test-build at least the most prominent reverse deps against 1.48
before bumping it again
  - contact debian-release before that bump, so we can coordinate a timing
that doesn't suck with regards to other ongoing transitions.

Now I'd like to coordinate a time for the change.  

I'd like to point out that any resulting build failures are quite easy
to fix: either
 (a) contact package upstream for boost 1.48 changes; or 
 (b) change the build-dependency from libboostfoo-dev to libboostfoo1.46-dev.

It would be quite helpful to do a rebuild of the 237 boost reverse
dependencies.  Lucas Nussbaum seems to be able to do this: can you run
a rebuild with updated boost-defaults?

Thanks,
-Steve


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