Re: Bug#280675: ITP: l2tpns

2004-11-12 Thread Andreas Barth
* Jonathan McDowell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041112 15:10]:
> On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 10:34:04PM +, Jonathan McDowell wrote:
> > * Package name: l2tpns
> >   Version : 2.0.5
> >   Upstream Author : David Parrish and others <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > * URL : http://l2tpns.sf.net/
> > * License : GPL
> >   Description : L2TP LNS which does not require l2tpd, pppd or any 
> > kernel patches.
> > 
> >L2TPNS is half of a complete L2TP implementation. It supports only
> >the LNS side of the connection.
> > 
> >L2TP (Layer 2 Tunneling Protocol) is designed to allow any layer 2 
> > protocol
> >(e.g. Ethernet, PPP) to be tunneled over an IP connection. L2TPNS 
> > implements
> >PPP over L2TP only.
> > 
> >Also supports ISP features like speed throttling, walled garden, usage
> >accounting, and more.

> Please stop following up to this ITP and telling me you don't understand
> the description unless you have prior experience of L2TP in an ISP
> environment. If you don't know what L2TP is or how an LNS fits into the
> picture, then this package probably isn't for you. I don't believe any
> of the terms used should be alien to the sort of person this package
> will be of use to.

Frankly speaking, the description should make sense for people who
_don't_ have a clue about the topic - and even if only telling them that
they should ignore the package.

So, perhaps add something like
  L2TPNS is the implementation of the internet services provider (ISP)
  side of L2TP, i.e. it supports LNS. If you are not an ISP, you won't
  need it.

For some more ideas, please see
http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-best-pkging-practices.en.html#s-bpp-desc-basics


Cheers,
Andi
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Re: Bug#280675: ITP: l2tpns

2004-11-12 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 02:07:36PM +, Jonathan McDowell wrote:

> Please stop following up to this ITP and telling me you don't understand
> the description unless you have prior experience of L2TP in an ISP
> environment. If you don't know what L2TP is or how an LNS fits into the
> picture, then this package probably isn't for you. I don't believe any
> of the terms used should be alien to the sort of person this package
> will be of use to.

Perhaps man of these questions could be headed off by mentioning the
sort of environment where the package would be useful in the
description?

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Re: Bug#280675: ITP: l2tpns

2004-11-12 Thread Jonathan McDowell
On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 10:34:04PM +, Jonathan McDowell wrote:
> * Package name: l2tpns
>   Version : 2.0.5
>   Upstream Author : David Parrish and others <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http://l2tpns.sf.net/
> * License : GPL
>   Description : L2TP LNS which does not require l2tpd, pppd or any kernel 
> patches.
> 
>L2TPNS is half of a complete L2TP implementation. It supports only
>the LNS side of the connection.
> 
>L2TP (Layer 2 Tunneling Protocol) is designed to allow any layer 2 protocol
>(e.g. Ethernet, PPP) to be tunneled over an IP connection. L2TPNS 
> implements
>PPP over L2TP only.
> 
>Also supports ISP features like speed throttling, walled garden, usage
>accounting, and more.
 
Please stop following up to this ITP and telling me you don't understand
the description unless you have prior experience of L2TP in an ISP
environment. If you don't know what L2TP is or how an LNS fits into the
picture, then this package probably isn't for you. I don't believe any
of the terms used should be alien to the sort of person this package
will be of use to.

J.

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Bug#280675: ITP: l2tpns

2004-11-10 Thread Jonathan McDowell
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: l2tpns
  Version : 2.0.5
  Upstream Author : David Parrish and others <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://l2tpns.sf.net/
* License : GPL
  Description : L2TP LNS which does not require l2tpd, pppd or any kernel 
patches.

   L2TPNS is half of a complete L2TP implementation. It supports only
   the LNS side of the connection.

   L2TP (Layer 2 Tunneling Protocol) is designed to allow any layer 2 protocol
   (e.g. Ethernet, PPP) to be tunneled over an IP connection. L2TPNS implements
   PPP over L2TP only.

   Also supports ISP features like speed throttling, walled garden, usage
   accounting, and more.


(This will require libcli, which I ITPed earlier today as #280611)

J.

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