Re: Bug#515850: RFP: mjpegtools - MJPEG video capture/editting/playback MPEG encoding

2009-02-18 Thread Reinhard Tartler

[ CC'ed ftp-master, please see below ]

José Manuel Santamaría Lema panfa...@gmail.com writes:

 It should be great if someone can package this tools for debian, a software 
 which I'm packaging depend on this tools.
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=467228

are you willing to package it under the pkg-multimedia umbrella?

 Its already packaged in ubuntu multiverse:
 http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/mjpegtools

 There is also a version in debian-multimedia:
 http://debian-multimedia.org/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/package/mjpegtools.php

Sure, ubuntu has imported some packages from marillat, including
mjpegtools.

 I don't understand why mjpegtools is in ubuntu multiverse because as
 far as I know, ubuntu multiverse is non-free software, but mjpegtools
 seems to be free software as its dependencies.

The debian/copyright file is close to useless. You need to inspect the
source manually to get an idea of its legal status.

From mpeg2enc/mpeg2coder.cc (but there are many similar comments in 
mpeg2enc/*.cc):

/*
 * Disclaimer of Warranty
 *
 * These software programs are available to the user without any license fee or
 * royalty on an as is basis.  The MPEG Software Simulation Group disclaims
 * any and all warranties, whether express, implied, or statuary, including any
 * implied warranties or merchantability or of fitness for a particular
 * purpose.  In no event shall the copyright-holder be liable for any
 * incidental, punitive, or consequential damages of any kind whatsoever
 * arising from the use of these programs.
 *
 * This disclaimer of warranty extends to the user of these programs and user's
 * customers, employees, agents, transferees, successors, and assigns.
 *
 * The MPEG Software Simulation Group does not represent or warrant that the
 * programs furnished hereunder are free of infringement of any third-party
 * patents.
 *
 * Commercial implementations of MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 video, including shareware,
 * are subject to royalty fees to patent holders.  Many of these patents are
 * general enough such that they are unavoidable regardless of implementation
 * design.
 *
 */

One can now argue what commercial implementation actually means. I'm
still waiting for ftp-master to comment on this, but AFAIUI, I don't see
why debian wouldn't be able to ship the binaries of mjpegtools, lame and
similar free software in non-free.

non-free as a convenience for users[1], that build assemble and sell
pre-installed and pre-configured devices running debian.

[1] http://debian.org/distrib/pre-installed

ftp-master, can you please comment on adding this kind software to
non-free?



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Bug#515850: RFP: mjpegtools - MJPEG video capture/editting/playback MPEG encoding

2009-02-17 Thread José Manuel Santamaría Lema

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

Package name: mjpegtools
Version: 1.9.0
Upstream Author:
  Rainer Johanni   rai...@johanni.de
  Gernot Ziegler   g...@lysator.liu.se
  Andrew Stevens   andrew.stev...@nexgo.de
  Bernhard Praschinger shadowl...@utanet.at
  Ronald Bultjerbul...@ronald.bitfreak.net
  Xavier Biquard   biqu...@free.fr
  Matthew Marjanovic   mad...@mir.com
  pHilipp Zabelpza...@gmx.de
  Kawamata/Hitoshi hitoshi.kawam...@nifty.ne.jp
  Stefan Fendt ste...@lionfish.ping.de
  Scott Moser  smo...@brickies.net
  Shawn Sulma  lavto...@athos.cx
  Mike Bernson m...@mlb.org
  James Klicmanja...@klicman.org
URL: http://mjpeg.sourceforge.net/
License: GPL
Description:
 The mjpeg programs are a set of tools that can do recording of videos and
 playback, simple cut-and-paste editing and the MPEG compression of audio and
 video under Linux. 


It should be great if someone can package this tools for debian, a software 
which I'm packaging depend on this tools.
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=467228

Its already packaged in ubuntu multiverse:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/mjpegtools

There is also a version in debian-multimedia:
http://debian-multimedia.org/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/package/mjpegtools.php

I don't understand why mjpegtools is in ubuntu multiverse because as far as I 
know, ubuntu multiverse is non-free software, but mjpegtools seems to be free 
software as its dependencies.



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