Re: lib- prefix for non-library (was: Bug#693998: ITP: linux-minidisc -- Free software for accessing NetMD and HiMD MiniDisc devices)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 05:41:35PM -0400, David Prévot wrote:
 Seems weird to see another non-library ending up in the pool/main/libr/
 directory of our archive (and yet another special case to handle for
 tools like deborphan). It would be nice to avoid the lib- prefix for
 non-library.

Nice, yes, but not nice is contorting package names away from upstream's
given name to work around a technical limitation in our pool structure/
package programs. Rightly or wrongly package names are still a key piece
of information used in user package discovery.


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Re: lib- prefix for non-library (was: Bug#693998: ITP: linux-minidisc -- Free software for accessing NetMD and HiMD MiniDisc devices)

2012-11-27 Thread Cyril Brulebois
David Prévot taf...@debian.org (26/11/2012):
 Seems weird to see another non-library ending up in the pool/main/libr/
 directory of our archive (and yet another special case to handle for
 tools like deborphan). It would be nice to avoid the lib- prefix for
 non-library.

.oO( libreoffice )

Mraw,
KiBi.


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Re: lib- prefix for non-library (was: Bug#693998: ITP: linux-minidisc -- Free software for accessing NetMD and HiMD MiniDisc devices)

2012-11-27 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, David Prévot wrote:
 Seems weird to see another non-library ending up in the
 pool/main/libr/ directory of our archive (and yet another special
 case to handle for tools like deborphan). It would be nice to avoid
 the lib- prefix for non-library.

If you want to know if something is a library or not, that's what
Section: lib and various debtags (devel::library,
role::shared-library, etc.) are for.
 

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Re: Bug#693998: ITP: linux-minidisc -- Free software for accessing NetMD and HiMD MiniDisc devices

2012-11-26 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 06:55:25AM +1100, Karl Goetz wrote:
* Package name       : linux-minidisc
   
   Thats a strange name considering it builds and runs on MacOS, Windows,
   Linux, FreeBSD and Haiku.
  
  Yes, the name is indeed somewhat confusing in that regard.
 
  If you have a better idea, I'd be happy to hear it ;).
 
 Not necessary better, but perhaps libre-minidisk? 3 letters different and 
 only contains one trademark :)

libre-minidisc sounds actually nice (note, it's minidis_c_, not
minidis_k_ as compared to hard dis_k_), but renaming the project would
involve too much of a hassle. The name is already everywhere, on the
project wiki, the mailing list, the git repository and so on. So, I
think we will refrain from doing that for now.

In the end, it affects the name of the source package only anyway, so
it's not a big deal. Most Windows and MacOS users just search and
download the UI application, QHiMDTransfer and don't care it mentions
Linux on the project homepage.

Cheers,

Adrian

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lib- prefix for non-library (was: Bug#693998: ITP: linux-minidisc -- Free software for accessing NetMD and HiMD MiniDisc devices)

2012-11-26 Thread David Prévot
Hi,

Le 26/11/2012 05:19, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :
 On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 06:55:25AM +1100, Karl Goetz wrote:
 * Package name   : linux-minidisc

 Thats a strange name considering it builds and runs on MacOS, Windows,
 Linux, FreeBSD and Haiku.

 Yes, the name is indeed somewhat confusing in that regard.

 If you have a better idea, I'd be happy to hear it ;).

 Not necessary better, but perhaps libre-minidisk? 3 letters different and 
 only contains one trademark :)
 
 libre-minidisc sounds actually nice

Seems weird to see another non-library ending up in the pool/main/libr/
directory of our archive (and yet another special case to handle for
tools like deborphan). It would be nice to avoid the lib- prefix for
non-library.

Regards

David




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Re: Bug#693998: ITP: linux-minidisc -- Free software for accessing NetMD and HiMD MiniDisc devices

2012-11-24 Thread Karl Goetz
On Sat, 24 Nov 2012, 00:26:34 LHST, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz 
glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de wrote:

 On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 09:02:18AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
  On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 3:16 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
  
   * Package name       : linux-minidisc
  
  Thats a strange name considering it builds and runs on MacOS, Windows,
  Linux, FreeBSD and Haiku.
 
 Yes, the name is indeed somewhat confusing in that regard.

 If you have a better idea, I'd be happy to hear it ;).

Not necessary better, but perhaps libre-minidisk? 3 letters different and only 
contains one trademark :)
thanks,
kk


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Re: Bug#693998: ITP: linux-minidisc -- Free software for accessing NetMD and HiMD MiniDisc devices

2012-11-24 Thread Filippo Rusconi
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 02:26:34PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 09:02:18AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
  On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 3:16 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
  
   * Package name: linux-minidisc
  
  Thats a strange name considering it builds and runs on MacOS, Windows,
  Linux, FreeBSD and Haiku.
 
 Yes, the name is indeed somewhat confusing in that regard. But when we
 first came up with the project, we were initially only concerned about
 Linux, so the name was obvious. Finding a good name for such a project
 is complicated because of possible trademark violations.
 
 If you have a better idea, I'd be happy to hear it ;).

minidisk-intercessor
minidisk-accessor

???
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Re: Bug#693998: ITP: linux-minidisc -- Free software for accessing NetMD and HiMD MiniDisc devices

2012-11-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 09:02:18AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 3:16 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
 
  * Package name: linux-minidisc
 
 Thats a strange name considering it builds and runs on MacOS, Windows,
 Linux, FreeBSD and Haiku.

Yes, the name is indeed somewhat confusing in that regard. But when we
first came up with the project, we were initially only concerned about
Linux, so the name was obvious. Finding a good name for such a project
is complicated because of possible trademark violations.

If you have a better idea, I'd be happy to hear it ;).

Cheers,

Adrian

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Bug#693998: ITP: linux-minidisc -- Free software for accessing NetMD and HiMD MiniDisc devices

2012-11-22 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de

* Package name: linux-minidisc
  Version : 0.9.0
  Upstream Author : linux-minidisc project linux-minid...@lists.fu-berlin.de
* URL : https://wiki.physik.fu-berlin.de/linux-minidisc
* License : GPLv2, LGPLv2.1
  Programming Lang: C, C++, XML
  Description : Free software for accessing NetMD and HiMD MiniDisc devices

The linux-minidisc project develops libraries and backends which allow to
access MiniDisc devices fitted with a USB connector adhering to the NetMD [1]
or HiMD [2] specification.

Both NetMD and HiMD allow to transfer music digitally over a USB connection to
a supported device. HiMD devices additionally provide upload capabilities, thus
transferring recordings made with a HiMD device back to the PC. NetMD device -
with the exception of the Sony MZ-RH1 (also known as MZ-M200) Walkman - do not
allow digital uploads through USB. It is however possible to capture the audio
through the analogue inputs of a sound card while controlling the NetMD device
from the PC using the NetMD protocol and retrieving track information. This
allows uploads with the same ease and comfort as digital USB uploads albeit not
providing the same audio quality. The project homepage provides a capability
matrix for that matter [3].

This ITP overlaps with the previous ITPs I filed before [4-6]. I consolidate
these ITPs into one since all of these packages are built from the same
source package called 'linux-minidisc'.

 [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetMD#NetMD
 [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi-MD
 [3] https://wiki.physik.fu-berlin.de/linux-minidisc/doku.php#status
 [4] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=533112
 [5] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=571647
 [6] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=638968


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Re: Bug#693998: ITP: linux-minidisc -- Free software for accessing NetMD and HiMD MiniDisc devices

2012-11-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 3:16 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

 * Package name: linux-minidisc

Thats a strange name considering it builds and runs on MacOS, Windows,
Linux, FreeBSD and Haiku.

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