Re: Bug#801837: ITP: yank -- interactively select and yank terminal output to stdout or xsel

[Sébastien Delafond]

On Oct/15, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> Please talk to upstream (or maybe to both upstreams) before renaming
> anything.
> [...]
> Eeek... https://lists.debian.org/20070428095345.ga9...@kunpuu.plessy.org

The package is already in NEW, and contains /usr/bin/yank-cli. I'll add
a note to README.Debian about that renaming, and also a recommendation
to alias it to something short : users of this package will be
command-line afficionados, and as such should probably not be
handicapped by this.

Cheers,

--Seb

Re: Bug#801837: ITP: yank -- interactively select and yank terminal output to stdout or xsel

[Sébastien Delafond]

On Oct/15, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> Sounds very cool, but apt-file tells me this name is already taken:
> 
> emboss: /usr/bin/yank

I think I'll keep the package name, but I'll install the binary itself
under some other name, maybe something like /usr/bin/yank-cli ?

Cheers,

--Seb

Re: Bug#801837: ITP: yank -- interactively select and yank terminal output to stdout or xsel

[Jakub Wilk]

* Sebastien Delafond , 2015-10-15, 08:04:

* Package name: yank
 Version : 0.4.0
 Upstream Author : Anton Lindqvist
* URL : https://github.com/mptre/yank
* License : MIT
 Programming Lang: C
 Description : interactively select and yank terminal output to stdout or 
xsel


Sounds very cool, but apt-file tells me this name is already taken:

emboss: /usr/bin/yank

--
Jakub Wilk

Re: Bug#801837: ITP: yank -- interactively select and yank terminal output to stdout or xsel

[Alexandre Detiste]

Le jeudi 15 octobre 2015, 11:29:00 Sébastien Delafond a écrit :
> On Oct/15, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> > Sounds very cool, but apt-file tells me this name is already taken:
> > 
> > emboss: /usr/bin/yank
> 
> I think I'll keep the package name, but I'll install the binary itself
> under some other name, maybe something like /usr/bin/yank-cli ?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> --Seb
> 

Hi, from [1], I see that emboss ships 261 programs in
/usr/bin/ including cool names like "banana", "chaos", "needle",
"water", "wobble" ... so this means all these names
can't be re-used forerver :-(

Current /usr/bin/yank [2] is 10 lines of code, the new tool
seems more usefull for more users;
and from the animated .gif on the project page,
it's supposed to be something short that's called
frequently, so the contrived name with the hypen
will make it hard to use... 

Maybe this can be also be solved by documenting how to set a bash alias,
or a symlink in /usr/local/bin .

[1] https://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/emboss/filelist
[2] https://sources.debian.net/src/emboss/6.6.0%2Bdfsg-1/emboss/yank.c/
[3] https://github.com/mptre/yank

Greets,

Alexandre Detiste

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Re: Bug#801837: ITP: yank -- interactively select and yank terminal output to stdout or xsel

[Olaf Titz]

> Well, that `emboss` tool clearly appears to be lame in its approach:
> it should provide a single CLI tool called `emboss` which would have
> those "yank" et al as its subcommands so that anyone could do something
> like `emboss yank ...` etc.
> 
> I'd say this should be reported as a bug upstream.
> 
> The original names could be provided as a compat package shipping a
> bunch of shell one-liner scripts.

...or rather symlinks, and/or place them in its own directory,
like other tools with many subcommands (openssl, busybox) do.
I think this is common enough to warrant codification by policy.

Olaf

Re: Bug#801837: ITP: yank -- interactively select and yank terminal output to stdout or xsel

[Jakub Wilk]

Le jeudi 15 octobre 2015, 11:29:00 Sébastien Delafond a écrit :

Sounds very cool, but apt-file tells me this name is already taken:

emboss: /usr/bin/yank


I think I'll keep the package name, but I'll install the binary itself 
under some other name, maybe something like /usr/bin/yank-cli ?


Please talk to upstream (or maybe to both upstreams) before renaming 
anything.


* Alexandre Detiste , 2015-10-15, 18:14:
from [1], I see that emboss ships 261 programs in /usr/bin/ 
including cool names like "banana", "chaos", "needle", "water", 
"wobble" ... so this means all these names can't be re-used forerver 
:-(


Eeek... https://lists.debian.org/20070428095345.ga9...@kunpuu.plessy.org


Current /usr/bin/yank [2] is 10 lines of code,


Um, length of the source file that contains main() is a very poor 
measure of program's complexity or usefulness.


--
Jakub Wilk

Re: Bug#801837: ITP: yank -- interactively select and yank terminal output to stdout or xsel

[Konstantin Khomoutov]

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 18:14:17 +0200
Alexandre Detiste  wrote:

> > > Sounds very cool, but apt-file tells me this name is already
> > > taken:
> > > 
> > > emboss: /usr/bin/yank
> > 
> > I think I'll keep the package name, but I'll install the binary
> > itself under some other name, maybe something
> > like /usr/bin/yank-cli ?
[...]
> Hi, from [1], I see that emboss ships 261 programs in
> /usr/bin/ including cool names like "banana", "chaos", "needle",
> "water", "wobble" ... so this means all these names
> can't be re-used forerver :-(
> 
> Current /usr/bin/yank [2] is 10 lines of code, the new tool
> seems more usefull for more users;
[...]
> [2]
> https://sources.debian.net/src/emboss/6.6.0%2Bdfsg-1/emboss/yank.c/

Well, that `emboss` tool clearly appears to be lame in its approach:
it should provide a single CLI tool called `emboss` which would have
those "yank" et al as its subcommands so that anyone could do something
like `emboss yank ...` etc.

I'd say this should be reported as a bug upstream.

The original names could be provided as a compat package shipping a
bunch of shell one-liner scripts.

Bug#801837: ITP: yank -- interactively select and yank terminal output to stdout or xsel

[Sebastien Delafond]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Sebastien Delafond 

* Package name: yank
  Version : 0.4.0
  Upstream Author : Anton Lindqvist
* URL : https://github.com/mptre/yank
* License : MIT
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : interactively select and yank terminal output to stdout or 
xsel

Read input from stdin and draw a selection interface where all fields in
the given input are recognized by using a default or user-supplied set
of delimiters.
.
Using ctrl-n and ctrl-p will move the field selection forward and
backward, pressing the return key will invoke the yank command and write
the selected field to its stdin. The yank command defaults to xsel, but
could be anything that accepts input on stdin.