Re: Bug#846903: ITP: node-has-gulplog -- Check if gulplog is available before attempting to use it

2016-12-04 Thread Josh Triplett
Philipp Kern wrote:
> On 04.12.2016 15:47, Pirate Praveen wrote:
> > Those of us feeling weird can go through the list here [1] and see
> > which of those are weird and help create a patch for their parent
> > module and convince their upstream to use a patch instead. If you
> > can't convince them, maintaining a fork would be fine too.
> 
> You'd think that the effort to package up [1] would be more than to
> patch the software using it.

Patching upstream source always makes more work (especially long-term)
than packaging unmodified upstream source.  Patched upstream source
incurs technical debt.  Getting the fix accepted upstream eliminates that
technical debt, and if upstream will take the fix and just add a hard
dependency on gulplog, that seems like an improvement.  But if upstream
won't take the patch, then packaging a tiny script seems *far* easier
than maintaining a permanent fork to avoid it.

- Josh Triplett



Re: Bug#846903: ITP: node-has-gulplog -- Check if gulplog is available before attempting to use it

2016-12-04 Thread Philipp Kern
On 04.12.2016 15:47, Pirate Praveen wrote:
> Those of us feeling weird can go through the list here [1] and see which of 
> those are weird and help create a patch for their parent module and convince 
> their upstream to use a patch instead. If you can't convince them, 
> maintaining a fork would be fine too.

You'd think that the effort to package up [1] would be more than to
patch the software using it. Especially when it boils down to a "true"
because gulplog is actually a dependency here.

I understand why you are annoyed, but some of these are silly. I think
we are beyond the "let's collect random modules into big packages" at
this point but it's IMO still fair to call out problematic ones like
this one.

Kind regards
Philipp Kern

[1] https://github.com/gulpjs/has-gulplog/blob/master/index.js



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Re: Bug#846903: ITP: node-has-gulplog -- Check if gulplog is available before attempting to use it

2016-12-04 Thread Pirate Praveen


On 2016, ഡിസംബർ 4 8:03:01 PM IST, Tollef Fog Heen  wrote:
>]] Pirate Praveen 
>
>>   Description : Check if gulplog is available before attempting
>to
>> use it
>
>Is there a node-has-has-gulplog too, to check for if has-gulplog is
>available before attempting to use it?  This package sounds a bit
>weird,
>even as Node.js packages go.

Those of us feeling weird can go through the list here [1] and see which of 
those are weird and help create a patch for their parent module and convince 
their upstream to use a patch instead. If you can't convince them, maintaining 
a fork would be fine too.

[1] https://wiki.debian.org/Javascript/Nodejs/Tasks/gulp

If some one is willing to be an upstream for a combined gulp package, that 
would be amazing too.

You can also help by substituting bigger libraries like lodash for these tiny 
ones. You could also help maintain such combined libraries.

I'm not stopping anyone from doing these supposed to be better way of doing 
things. As long as no one steps up to do these tasks, you'll have to bear with 
the tiny packages. And its tiring to keep replying the same thing often, so I 
won't reply to any more tiny module email.

Thanks everyone.

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Re: Bug#846903: ITP: node-has-gulplog -- Check if gulplog is available before attempting to use it

2016-12-04 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Pirate Praveen 

>   Description : Check if gulplog is available before attempting to
> use it

Is there a node-has-has-gulplog too, to check for if has-gulplog is
available before attempting to use it?  This package sounds a bit weird,
even as Node.js packages go.

-- 
Tollef Fog Heen
UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are



Bug#846903: ITP: node-has-gulplog -- Check if gulplog is available before attempting to use it

2016-12-03 Thread Pirate Praveen
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Pirate Praveen 
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

* Package name: node-has-gulplog
  Version : 0.1.0
  Upstream Author : Blaine Bublitz  (http://iceddev.com)
* URL : https://github.com/gulpjs/has-gulplog#readme
* License : Expat
  Programming Lang: JavaScript
  Description : Check if gulplog is available before attempting to
use it



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