Closing bugs as submitter?

2005-10-16 Thread Jan C. Nordholz
Dear list,

I'd like to ask you if it is desired (and possible at all)
that submitters close their own bugs if they have been fixed
without the package maintainer's noticing. The informational
pages on b.d.o don't state whether [EMAIL PROTECTED] is obeying
commands from everyone, and whether or not such behaviour
(meddling with bugs as non-maintainer) would be deemed
appropriate.

In my special case, the bug I've reported two weeks ago
has apparently been fixed upstream, and the latest upload
of the package to experimental has brought the fix into
the archive. Now I'd like to save the maintainer some work
and tag the bug fixed-in-experimental myself (together with
a short explanatory message to the bug log), but am unsure
whether I'm allowed to.


Regards,

Jan

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Re: Closing bugs as submitter?

2005-10-16 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 02:09:06AM +0200, Jan C. Nordholz wrote:
 Dear list,
 
 I'd like to ask you if it is desired (and possible at all)
 that submitters close their own bugs if they have been fixed
 without the package maintainer's noticing. The informational
 pages on b.d.o don't state whether [EMAIL PROTECTED] is obeying
 commands from everyone, and whether or not such behaviour
 (meddling with bugs as non-maintainer) would be deemed
 appropriate.
 
 In my special case, the bug I've reported two weeks ago
 has apparently been fixed upstream, and the latest upload
 of the package to experimental has brought the fix into
 the archive. Now I'd like to save the maintainer some work
 and tag the bug fixed-in-experimental myself (together with
 a short explanatory message to the bug log), but am unsure
 whether I'm allowed to.

Yes, you may do so -- if in doubt, simply write an explanatory mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], and let the maintainer deal with it. If you're sure
that what you're doing is correct, there is in general no reason to not do it.
In order to prevent problems, I suggest being extra cautious changing the
state of bugs if you're not completely sure how to undo any potential
mistake you might make.

In all cases, writing mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is always safe to do, and
there should always be some maintainer somewhere who will read the message can
can act on it appropriately.

Thank you for your contribution (bugreports are also contributions in a way)
to Debian!
--Jeroen

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Re: Closing bugs as submitter?

2005-10-16 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Jan C. Nordholz said:
 Dear list,
 
 I'd like to ask you if it is desired (and possible at all)
 that submitters close their own bugs if they have been fixed
 without the package maintainer's noticing. The informational
 pages on b.d.o don't state whether [EMAIL PROTECTED] is obeying
 commands from everyone, and whether or not such behaviour
 (meddling with bugs as non-maintainer) would be deemed
 appropriate.
 
 In my special case, the bug I've reported two weeks ago
 has apparently been fixed upstream, and the latest upload
 of the package to experimental has brought the fix into
 the archive. Now I'd like to save the maintainer some work
 and tag the bug fixed-in-experimental myself (together with
 a short explanatory message to the bug log), but am unsure
 whether I'm allowed to.

Yes, that would be absolutely fine.  The controlbot is (for both good
and bad) available to all.
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Re: Closing bugs as submitter?

2005-10-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Jan C. Nordholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'd like to ask you if it is desired (and possible at all)
 that submitters close their own bugs if they have been fixed
 without the package maintainer's noticing. The informational
 pages on b.d.o don't state whether [EMAIL PROTECTED] is obeying
 commands from everyone, and whether or not such behaviour
 (meddling with bugs as non-maintainer) would be deemed
 appropriate.

I think it's desirable, just do it correctly.

 In my special case, the bug I've reported two weeks ago
 has apparently been fixed upstream, and the latest upload
 of the package to experimental has brought the fix into
 the archive. Now I'd like to save the maintainer some work
 and tag the bug fixed-in-experimental myself (together with
 a short explanatory message to the bug log), but am unsure
 whether I'm allowed to.

Sure, go right ahead, just do it rightly.


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Re: Closing bugs as submitter?

2005-10-16 Thread Jan C. Nordholz
On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 02:17:01AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
 Yes, you may do so -- if in doubt, simply write an explanatory mail to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], and let the maintainer deal with it. If you're sure
 that what you're doing is correct, there is in general no reason to not do it.
 In order to prevent problems, I suggest being extra cautious changing the
 state of bugs if you're not completely sure how to undo any potential
 mistake you might make.
 
 In all cases, writing mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is always safe to do, and
 there should always be some maintainer somewhere who will read the message can
 can act on it appropriately.
 
 Thank you for your contribution (bugreports are also contributions in a way)
 to Debian!
 --Jeroen

Hi Jeroen (and all others),

thanks for your quick reply! I'm pretty sure about the change,
I just wanted to make sure that I'm not considered hijacking
someone's package.

As for my contribution: I'd be happy to do more, and I'm monitoring
wnpp for packages I feel knowledgeable enough about to offer my
help and/or ask for sponsoring, but the right one just hasn't come
across yet. ;-)


Thanks again,

Jan

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Re: Closing bugs as submitter?

2005-10-16 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Jan C. Nordholz [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Now I'd like to save the maintainer some work and tag the bug
 fixed-in-experimental myself (together with a short explanatory
 message to the bug log),

If I understand correctly, after version tracking was implemented, the
fixed-in-experimental tag has been superseded by simply closing the
bug for the current experimental version (i.e. mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a pseudo-header giving the version in question).

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Re: Closing bugs as submitter?

2005-10-16 Thread Jan C. Nordholz
On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 03:16:01AM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
 If I understand correctly, after version tracking was implemented, the
 fixed-in-experimental tag has been superseded by simply closing the
 bug for the current experimental version (i.e. mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 with a pseudo-header giving the version in question).

Ah, thank you for the pointer - my memories of the changes made to the
BTS[1] were not as vivid as I had hoped them to be.


Regards,

Jan

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/07/msg00010.html

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