Re: DMA, ide-scsi, devfs by default
Erich Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But if it is reliable i would recommend using it. It makes lot of things much easier and probably is much more intuitive for beginners as well. (just thinking of /dev/discs/disc0/part1 and /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 ) What's especially cool is that it hardwires the British (or Australian, in this case, I guess) spelling of `disc' as part of the UI, though `disk' seems far more widespread in the rest of the kernel (consistency, what's that?) -Miles -- We live, as we dream -- alone
Re: DMA, ide-scsi, devfs by default
On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 00:43, Miles Bader wrote: What's especially cool is that it hardwires the British (or Australian, in this case, I guess) spelling of `disc' as part of the UI The idea that devfs hardwires anything seems to be very popular. It is also completely wrong. You can use the userspace devfsd to transform the names however you like. For example, add these two lines to /etc/devfs/devfsd.conf, and you'll get the correct[1] spelling. REGISTER ^discs CFUNCTION GLOBAL mksymlink $devname disks REGISTER ^discs/disc([0-9]*) CFUNCTION GLOBAL mksymlink ../$devname discs/disk\1 I'm sure there's a way to get rid of the original spelling, too, if you really want. [1] :)
Re: DMA, ide-scsi, devfs by default
Miles Bader [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's especially cool is that it hardwires the British (or Australian, in this case, I guess) spelling of `disc' as part of the UI, though `disk' seems far more widespread in the rest of the kernel (consistency, what's that?) In American English usage, disk is standard for all usages *except* for CDs, which are always compact discs
Re: DMA, ide-scsi, devfs by default
On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 01:43:05PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: Erich Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But if it is reliable i would recommend using it. It makes lot of things much easier and probably is much more intuitive for beginners as well. (just thinking of /dev/discs/disc0/part1 and /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 ) What's especially cool is that it hardwires the British (or Australian, in this case, I guess) spelling of `disc' as part of the UI, though `disk' seems far more widespread in the rest of the kernel (consistency, what's that?) Hmm, I'm australian and a 'disk' seems to be what's in computer and a 'disc' seems to be any other flat round thing :). Go figure. Ofcourse, the solution is to have multiple config files and have a debconf question: How do you want your devices named: [1] American [2] British [3] Australian [4] Chinese [5] German etc... /me runs... -- Martijn van Oosterhout kleptog@svana.org http://svana.org/kleptog/ There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those that can do binary arithmetic and those that can't.
Re: DMA, ide-scsi, devfs by default
On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 12:03:39AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: What's especially cool is that it hardwires the British (or Australian, in this case, I guess) spelling of `disc' as part of the UI, though `disk' seems far more widespread in the rest of the kernel (consistency, what's that?) In American English usage, disk is standard for all usages *except* for CDs, which are always compact discs Yeah, but Americans can't spell. ;) -- Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] I N33D MY G4M3Z, D00D111!! (Just ... don't ask) toor netgod: what do you have in your kernel??? The compiled source for driving a space shuttle??? Spoo time to make a zip drive your floppy drive then. if the kernel doesn fit on that, the kernel is an AI pgp9UlrlpWIGD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: DMA, ide-scsi, devfs by default
Colin Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's especially cool is that it hardwires the British (or Australian, in this case, I guess) spelling of `disc' as part of the UI The idea that devfs hardwires anything seems to be very popular. It is also completely wrong. You can use the userspace devfsd to transform the names however you like. Um, it _does_ hardwire the names; the fact that you can apply additional tools to correct them yourself doesn't change that -- you shouldn't _have_ to do that in the normal case. -Miles -- 97% of everything is grunge
Re: DMA, ide-scsi, devfs by default
BTW: i also remember having read that certain hardware doesn't work with ide-scsi, so enabling ide-scsi for all IDE hardware is a bad choice. (i think one of the boot-floppies people tried using ide-scsi by default, and got some problem reports) And additional drawback IMHO is the following: devfs is really nice, and it's nice to see /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 - but with ide-scsi i also get /dev/cdroms/cdrom1 ... 6 for different luns of my ide writer... i havn't yet understood why they are created... it's kind of unintuitive to have 7 nodes for my cd writer and 1 for my cd+dvd player... ) We also should watch what 2.5 will bring... now it seems like the IDE redesign was reverted, but maybe it will come again or yet another different approach. Maybe these kernels will be DMA-Enabled by default. I think there is an option to enable DMA by default for certain chipsets already - probably the ones where it is safe... I like devfs very much, btw - but there were race conditions and such stuff in there before, so the current state of devfs should be checked. But if it is reliable i would recommend using it. It makes lot of things much easier and probably is much more intuitive for beginners as well. (just thinking of /dev/discs/disc0/part1 and /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 ) Greetings, Erich -- erich@(mucl.de|debian.org)--GPG Key ID: 4B3A135C The best things in life are free: Friendship and Love. Die kürzeste Verbindung zwischen zwei Menschen ist ein Lächeln. Humor sollte immmer dabeisein, auch bei Problemen.
