Debian AMD64 is Debian

2005-05-08 Thread Adam M.
Hamish Moffatt wrote:

On Friday 06 May 2005 11:22am, Joerg Jaspert wrote:


Hi

 Note: non-free is NOT provided yet. We need to decide what we do with
 it, as we may be forbidden to distribute some of the software in it (we
aren't Debian).

Not necessary. For 'sattrack' for example, I got permission for us to
distribute it in Debian. But I don't know if that extends to
Debian-AMD64 (an unofficial distribution) and Ubuntu would certainly
have to ask for their own permission.
  


Actually, non-free is not Debian as well (as far as I recall), but all
of us consider it part of the Debian project. Honestly, I would consider
the AMD64 port part of the Debian project since it is a *port* and you
can find it at http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ . The only differences
between non-free and AMD64 non-free is that AMD64 is not part of the
Debian mirror network (ie. not officially part of Sid/Sarge).

Anyway, I think if package can be distributed by Debian, it can
implicitly be distributed by any of the Debian ports, released or not.

- Adam


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Re: Debian AMD64 is Debian

2005-05-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Adam M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hamish Moffatt wrote:

On Friday 06 May 2005 11:22am, Joerg Jaspert wrote:


Hi

 Note: non-free is NOT provided yet. We need to decide what we do with
 it, as we may be forbidden to distribute some of the software in it (we
aren't Debian).

Not necessary. For 'sattrack' for example, I got permission for us to
distribute it in Debian. But I don't know if that extends to
Debian-AMD64 (an unofficial distribution) and Ubuntu would certainly
have to ask for their own permission.
  


 Actually, non-free is not Debian as well (as far as I recall), but all
 of us consider it part of the Debian project. Honestly, I would consider
 the AMD64 port part of the Debian project since it is a *port* and you
 can find it at http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ . The only differences
 between non-free and AMD64 non-free is that AMD64 is not part of the
 Debian mirror network (ie. not officially part of Sid/Sarge).

We are not part of Debian. We are not allowed to use certain Debian
resources such as buildd.d.o for buildd logs, access to the incoming
queue for buildds or wanna-build and several other things.

So if Debian itself does not think amd64 is part of it why should the law?

Luckily other parts of Debian are not that subborn and support us none
the less, like package.debian.org or soon cdimage.d.o to name two.

 Anyway, I think if package can be distributed by Debian, it can
 implicitly be distributed by any of the Debian ports, released or not.

 - Adam

Legaly we are not Debian. Only once amd64 is added on ftp-master you
can use that argument imho.

MfG
Goswin


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Re: Debian AMD64 is Debian

2005-05-08 Thread Adam M.
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:

Adam M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We are not part of Debian. We are not allowed to use certain Debian
resources such as buildd.d.o for buildd logs, access to the incoming
queue for buildds or wanna-build and several other things.

So if Debian itself does not think amd64 is part of it why should the law?

Luckily other parts of Debian are not that subborn and support us none
the less, like package.debian.org or soon cdimage.d.o to name two.
  

Then let us hope that amd64 will be added to sid soon..

I am looking at the non-free copyrights and hopefully I will weed-out
any Debian distribution only ones soon. I'll put the results up on
people.d.o webpage so other distributions based on Debian, like Ubuntu,
can use that if they want to make sure they do not distribute something
they don't have permission to distribute...

- Adam



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