Re: Features Missing in Debian's Package Management System
Hi, On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 01:26:02AM +0430, Eliad Bagherzadegan wrote: Hi, I'm not sure whether this is the appropriate mailing list for the subject or not. If not, please let me know the right place for this discussion. debian-u...@lists.debian.org There are a few features that would probably improve Debian's package Management system (at least based on my needs). And maybe they exist somewhere I don't know about. 1. system-bug-status: This is actually pretty easy to implement. This program should periodically check the bug tracking system for bugs in installed packages and report to the system administrator. * It can prioritize the packages based on there importance, how frequently they are used, possible security risks and manual configurations. * It can be configured to check only for the bugs based on their classifications (serious, important, normal, verified or not, etc.) * For different combinations of these two it can determine the appropriate period to check. 2. The ability to ban certain packages and (possibly) there dependent packages. So that they wouldn't show up in the package manager at all. I would really appreciate any ideas and suggestions. As others poited out with short messages, there are ways already in Debian and you just did not notice them since you are new to Debian. I know it is a bit obscure. It may help you to read basic documentation linked from: http://www.debian.org/doc/ There you find my Debian Reference: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ Especially Chapter 2. Debian package management: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html Good luck. Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110615164753.ga25...@debian.org
Re: Features Missing in Debian's Package Management System
Hello, On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 07:44:43 +0200 Gergely Nagy alger...@madhouse-project.org wrote: You can do something like this using apt pinning. If you assign a negative priority to a package, it will still be listed but apt will refuse to install it. For example, with the following stanza apt will refuse to install libfoo: Package: libfoo Pin: version * Pin-Priority: -1 Possibly, there should be some kind of automagical interface for this, so one can type apt-... ... libfoo and get that stanza generated? It's actually very easy to write such a tool: Yes, but when you already know how to do that :) Before that, you need to R the M anyway. -- WBR, Andrew signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Features Missing in Debian's Package Management System
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 01:26:02AM +0430, Eliad Bagherzadegan wrote: * It can prioritize the packages based on there importance, how frequently they are used, possible security risks and manual configurations. http://packages.debian.org/lenny/debsecan I would really appreciate any ideas and suggestions. -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux ==.| http://kevix.myopenid.com..| | : :' : The Universal OS| mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/.| | `. `' http://www.debian.org/.| http://counter.li.org [#238656]| |___`-Unless I ask to be CCd,.assume I am subscribed._| If you don't like the way I drive, stay off the sidewalk! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110614224631.GA25518@horacrux
Features Missing in Debian's Package Management System
Hi, I'm not sure whether this is the appropriate mailing list for the subject or not. If not, please let me know the right place for this discussion. There are a few features that would probably improve Debian's package Management system (at least based on my needs). And maybe they exist somewhere I don't know about. 1. system-bug-status: This is actually pretty easy to implement. This program should periodically check the bug tracking system for bugs in installed packages and report to the system administrator. * It can prioritize the packages based on there importance, how frequently they are used, possible security risks and manual configurations. * It can be configured to check only for the bugs based on their classifications (serious, important, normal, verified or not, etc.) * For different combinations of these two it can determine the appropriate period to check. 2. The ability to ban certain packages and (possibly) there dependent packages. So that they wouldn't show up in the package manager at all. I would really appreciate any ideas and suggestions. Regards, Eliad -- Eliad Bagherzadegan signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Features Missing in Debian's Package Management System
Hi, On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 01:26:02AM +0430, Eliad Bagherzadegan wrote: I'm not sure whether this is the appropriate mailing list for the subject or not. If not, please let me know the right place for this discussion. There are a few features that would probably improve Debian's package Management system (at least based on my needs). And maybe they exist somewhere I don't know about. A better place to send these suggestions is the APT mailing list, de...@lists.debian.org - or wishlist bug reports against the package manager. -- Jonathan Wiltshire j...@debian.org Debian Developer http://people.debian.org/~jmw 4096R: 0xD3524C51 / 0A55 B7C5 1223 3942 86EC 74C3 5394 479D D352 4C51 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110613213636.ge28...@lupin.home.powdarrmonkey.net
Re: Features Missing in Debian's Package Management System
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 01:26:02AM +0430, Eliad Bagherzadegan wrote:
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This program should periodically check the bug tracking system for
bugs in installed packages and report to the system administrator.
[...]
While not necessarily a perfect match for the criteria you mention,
you'll probably want to take a look at these which provide similar
functionality:
http://packages.debian.org/apt-listbugs
http://packages.debian.org/devscripts (man rc-alert)
Perhaps a wishlist bug against one of the above is in order to
request the additional features you think might be useful?
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Re: Features Missing in Debian's Package Management System
Op Tue, 14 Jun 2011 01:26:02 +0430 schreef Eliad Bagherzadegan eliad.bagherzade...@gmail.com: 2. The ability to ban certain packages and (possibly) there dependent packages. So that they wouldn't show up in the package manager at all. You can do something like this using apt pinning. If you assign a negative priority to a package, it will still be listed but apt will refuse to install it. For example, with the following stanza apt will refuse to install libfoo: Package: libfoo Pin: version * Pin-Priority: -1 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Features Missing in Debian's Package Management System
Hello, On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 00:25:29 +0200 Peter De Wachter pdewa...@gmail.com wrote: You can do something like this using apt pinning. If you assign a negative priority to a package, it will still be listed but apt will refuse to install it. For example, with the following stanza apt will refuse to install libfoo: Package: libfoo Pin: version * Pin-Priority: -1 Possibly, there should be some kind of automagical interface for this, so one can type apt-... ... libfoo and get that stanza generated? -- WBR, Andrew signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Features Missing in Debian's Package Management System
Andrew O. Shadoura bugzi...@tut.by writes:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 00:25:29 +0200
Peter De Wachter pdewa...@gmail.com wrote:
You can do something like this using apt pinning. If you assign a
negative priority to a package, it will still be listed but apt will
refuse to install it.
For example, with the following stanza apt will refuse to install
libfoo:
Package: libfoo
Pin: version *
Pin-Priority: -1
Possibly, there should be some kind of automagical interface for this,
so one can type apt-... ... libfoo and get that stanza generated?
It's actually very easy to write such a tool:
~# cat /usr/local/sbin/apt-ignore
#! /bin/sh
set -e
ai_usage ()
{
cat EOF
Usage: apt-ignore PACKAGES...
Creates a new file in /etc/apt/preferences.d/ to ignore all of the
packages specified on the command-line.
EOF
}
if [ $# -lt 1 ]; then
ai_usage
exit 1
fi
for pkg in $@; do
cat EOF
Package: ${pkg}
Pin: version *
Pin-Priority: -1
EOF
done $(tempfile -d /etc/apt/preferences.d/ -p ign-)
^D
~# chmod +x /usr/local/sbin/apt-ignore
There's little error handling, one could add support for --help, write a
manual page and probably a whole lot of other things (like using more
sensible filenames, and warning the user if trying to ignore a package
that does not exist (possibly only when a flag is specified - so one can
ignore packages that are not in the archive yet, but will be)), but I'll
leave that to someone who'd actually use the program.
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