Re: Getting ftp-master mails as sponsor
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 12:14:17AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 11012 March 1977, Nico Golde wrote: would it be a big change for dak to enable that sponsors of Yes. And not only for dak. Just - tell me how the script should find out who the sponsor was/is? I might be mistaken, but doesn't the system already check the GPG key and fill in some info in the projectb database based on who signed the upload? After all, whoever signed the upload also is the sponsor, no? -- Shaw's Principle: Build a system that even a fool can use, and only a fool will want to use it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting ftp-master mails as sponsor
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:00:28AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 12:14:17AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 11012 March 1977, Nico Golde wrote: would it be a big change for dak to enable that sponsors of Yes. And not only for dak. Just - tell me how the script should find out who the sponsor was/is? I might be mistaken, but doesn't the system already check the GPG key and fill in some info in the projectb database based on who signed the upload? After all, whoever signed the upload also is the sponsor, no? Yes, projectb stores the fingerprint of the uploader, but that still leaves the question of how to turn a key id into an email address. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting ftp-master mails as sponsor
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 04:13:20AM -0700, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:00:28AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 12:14:17AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 11012 March 1977, Nico Golde wrote: would it be a big change for dak to enable that sponsors of Yes. And not only for dak. Just - tell me how the script should find out who the sponsor was/is? I might be mistaken, but doesn't the system already check the GPG key and fill in some info in the projectb database based on who signed the upload? After all, whoever signed the upload also is the sponsor, no? Yes, projectb stores the fingerprint of the uploader, but that still leaves the question of how to turn a key id into an email address. db.debian.org ? Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Getting ftp-master mails as sponsor
Hi, would it be a big change for dak to enable that sponsors of packages also get the mails by the Archive Admistrator and Debian Installer? This would be nice since the NM don't have to forward them to the sponsor. Kind regards Nico -- Nico Golde - http://ngolde.de - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - GPG: 0x73647CFF For security reasons, all text in this mail is double-rot13 encrypted. pgpxL4mh5wLCT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Getting ftp-master mails as sponsor
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 08:08:09PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: This would be nice since the NM don't have to forward them to the sponsor. Have them subscribe in the PTS? /* Steinar */ -- Homepage: http://www.sesse.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting ftp-master mails as sponsor
Hi, * Steinar H. Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-07 20:12]: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 08:08:09PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: This would be nice since the NM don't have to forward them to the sponsor. Have them subscribe in the PTS? This won't work for the initial mails you get when you upload the package the first time. Kind regards Nico -- Nico Golde - http://ngolde.de - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - GPG: 0x73647CFF For security reasons, all text in this mail is double-rot13 encrypted. pgpBBhHWwjOA5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Getting ftp-master mails as sponsor
On Mon, 7 May 2007, Nico Golde wrote: This won't work for the initial mails you get when you upload the package the first time. What about using the Uploaders control field? Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting ftp-master mails as sponsor
Hi, * Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-07 21:31]: On Mon, 7 May 2007, Nico Golde wrote: This won't work for the initial mails you get when you upload the package the first time. What about using the Uploaders control field? I don't want to be listed as co-maintainer for a package I just sponsor the upload for. Kind regards Nico -- Nico Golde - http://ngolde.de - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - GPG: 0x73647CFF For security reasons, all text in this mail is double-rot13 encrypted. pgpyG0BIn3qeS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Getting ftp-master mails as sponsor
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 08:10:47PM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 08:08:09PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: This would be nice since the NM don't have to forward them to the sponsor. Have them subscribe in the PTS? Honestly, that sucks. I don't want to subscribe the PTS for packages I sponsor, I do go read the BTS from time to time to check they (my sponsoring) are doing a good job, but I don't want to receive everything. Though, I find it a real PITA not having the confirmation mail from Katie^Wdak. And no I don't want to be listed in the Uploaders field, I've said this already in the past. Uploaders in Debian is not used to say that you are the upload-machine but to say that you co-maintain the package. For most of my sponsored packages it's less than true. Moreover, some sponsorees sometimes have many sponsors, and well, I just want katie's ack when I does the upload to be sure I did not screwed up, but I don't care when I'm not the uploader. IOW, I do second nion request. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpmyLpBvXl8u.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Getting ftp-master mails as sponsor
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 10:14:52PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Honestly, that sucks. I don't want to subscribe the PTS for packages I sponsor, I do go read the BTS from time to time to check they (my sponsoring) are doing a good job, but I don't want to receive everything. Though, I find it a real PITA not having the confirmation mail from Katie^Wdak. You can subscribe to only certain keywords -- if you don't want all the bug reports, nobody forces you. /* Steinar */ -- Homepage: http://www.sesse.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting ftp-master mails as sponsor
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 10:17:38PM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 10:14:52PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Honestly, that sucks. I don't want to subscribe the PTS for packages I sponsor, I do go read the BTS from time to time to check they (my sponsoring) are doing a good job, but I don't want to receive everything. Though, I find it a real PITA not having the confirmation mail from Katie^Wdak. You can subscribe to only certain keywords -- if you don't want all the bug reports, nobody forces you. What if you are a one-time sponsor for a dozen packages? It seems like Nico's original gripe is valid. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Getting ftp-master mails as sponsor
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 10:14:52PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 08:10:47PM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 08:08:09PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: This would be nice since the NM don't have to forward them to the sponsor. Have them subscribe in the PTS? Honestly, that sucks. I don't want to subscribe the PTS for packages I sponsor, I do go read the BTS from time to time to check they (my sponsoring) are doing a good job, but I don't want to receive everything. Though, I find it a real PITA not having the confirmation mail from Katie^Wdak. Yup. Even worse is screwing up and not getting the Naks, and the maintainer you're helping is in the opposite timezone so you don't even know about it till hours later. Sorry Magnus :-] IOW, I do second nion request. Me too. TIA. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting ftp-master mails as sponsor
On 11012 March 1977, Nico Golde wrote: would it be a big change for dak to enable that sponsors of Yes. And not only for dak. Just - tell me how the script should find out who the sponsor was/is? This would need a new field defined in some sane way and then get enforced to use to make sense. And then the scripts can start using it. So the simple(r) option is subscribe to pts. -- bye Joerg Free Beer is such a good thing and Free Speech too. Debian is about the both. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting ftp-master mails as sponsor
Hi, * Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-08 00:16]: On 11012 March 1977, Nico Golde wrote: would it be a big change for dak to enable that sponsors of Yes. And not only for dak. Just - tell me how the script should find out who the sponsor was/is? I thought this migh work via the signature of the source package. Kind regards Nico -- Nico Golde - http://ngolde.de - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - GPG: 0x73647CFF For security reasons, all text in this mail is double-rot13 encrypted. pgpVTvIgzjCpF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Getting ftp-master mails as sponsor
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 12:14:17AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 11012 March 1977, Nico Golde wrote: would it be a big change for dak to enable that sponsors of Yes. And not only for dak. Just - tell me how the script should find out who the sponsor was/is? This would need a new field defined in some sane way and then get enforced to use to make sense. And then the scripts can start using it. So the simple(r) option is subscribe to pts. Doesn't the key used to sign the upload tell you? Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Getting ftp-master mails as sponsor
On 11013 March 1977, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: This would need a new field defined in some sane way and then get enforced to use to make sense. And then the scripts can start using it. So the simple(r) option is subscribe to pts. Doesn't the key used to sign the upload tell you? Yes, then I know the key. What do I do with keys like the following (which are fine and valid and stuff) where the primary UID is without a mail: gpg --list-keys 94c09c7f pub 1024D/94C09C7F 1999-11-10 uid Peter Palfrader uid Weasel [EMAIL PROTECTED] uid Peter Palfrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] uid Peter Palfrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] uid Peter Palfrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] uid [jpeg image of size 7974] sub 1024D/AFA44BDD 2003-07-09 [expires: 2008-08-02] sub 2048g/E8F4A328 2003-07-09 [expires: 2008-08-02] Pick a random uid? Send no mail? Send mail to all? And no, simply pick @debian.org doesnt work, people may have chosen to deactivate that address because they use something different for all their debian activity now. -- bye Joerg lamont is there a tag for won't be fixed until sarge+1? sam depends whether the BTS is year 2037 compliant pgpci4MmX03uV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Getting ftp-master mails as sponsor
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 01:18:11AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 11013 March 1977, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: This would need a new field defined in some sane way and then get enforced to use to make sense. And then the scripts can start using it. So the simple(r) option is subscribe to pts. Doesn't the key used to sign the upload tell you? Yes, then I know the key. What do I do with keys like the following (which are fine and valid and stuff) where the primary UID is without a mail: gpg --list-keys 94c09c7f pub 1024D/94C09C7F 1999-11-10 uid Peter Palfrader uid Weasel [EMAIL PROTECTED] uid Peter Palfrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] uid Peter Palfrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] uid Peter Palfrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] uid [jpeg image of size 7974] sub 1024D/AFA44BDD 2003-07-09 [expires: 2008-08-02] sub 2048g/E8F4A328 2003-07-09 [expires: 2008-08-02] Pick a random uid? Send no mail? Send mail to all? And no, simply pick @debian.org doesnt work, people may have chosen to deactivate that address because they use something different for all their debian activity now. Query the fingerprint against db.debian.org and then use the email forwarded to: entry? If one does not exist, then simply don't send mail. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Getting ftp-master mails as sponsor
On Tue, 08 May 2007, Joerg Jaspert wrote: Pick a random uid? Send no mail? Send mail to all? And no, simply pick @debian.org doesnt work, people may have chosen to deactivate that address because they use something different for all their debian activity now. It's slightly suboptimal, but would an optional field in the .changes file like Uploaded-By: be sufficient? That way people who want this sort of thing can get it (eventually automatically?) and those who don't can ignore it. Don Armstrong -- An elephant: A mouse built to government specifications. -- Robert Heinlein _Time Enough For Love_ p244 http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting ftp-master mails as sponsor
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 01:18:11AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 11013 March 1977, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: This would need a new field defined in some sane way and then get enforced to use to make sense. And then the scripts can start using it. So the simple(r) option is subscribe to pts. Doesn't the key used to sign the upload tell you? Yes, then I know the key. What do I do with keys like the following (which are fine and valid and stuff) where the primary UID is without a mail: gpg --list-keys 94c09c7f pub 1024D/94C09C7F 1999-11-10 uid Peter Palfrader uid Weasel [EMAIL PROTECTED] uid Peter Palfrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] uid Peter Palfrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] uid Peter Palfrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] uid [jpeg image of size 7974] sub 1024D/AFA44BDD 2003-07-09 [expires: 2008-08-02] sub 2048g/E8F4A328 2003-07-09 [expires: 2008-08-02] Pick a random uid? Send no mail? Send mail to all? And no, simply pick @debian.org doesnt work, people may have chosen to deactivate that address because they use something different for all their debian activity now. SELECT m.name FROM fingerprint f LEFT JOIN uid u ON f.uid=u.id LEFT JOIN source s ON f.id=s.sig_fpr LEFT JOIN maintainer m ON s.maintainer=m.id WHERE f.fingerprint='$yourvarhere' AND m.name LIKE '%' || u.uid || '%' ORDER BY install_date DESC LIMIT 1; obviously ;-) -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting ftp-master mails as sponsor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/07/2007 08:28 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: On Tue, 08 May 2007, Joerg Jaspert wrote: Pick a random uid? Send no mail? Send mail to all? And no, simply pick @debian.org doesnt work, people may have chosen to deactivate that address because they use something different for all their debian activity now. It's slightly suboptimal, but would an optional field in the .changes file like Uploaded-By: be sufficient? I like this idea. And I think it could be sufficient. :-) That way people who want this sort of thing can get it (eventually automatically?) and those who don't can ignore it. Just for the record, I was thinking about the suggestion to add a field, something like 'Last-Uploader', similar to the field we use in PO files for Last-Translator. The idea is similar, but would figure in a different file and requires a different set of changes in our documentation/policy. Kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGP+UQCjAO0JDlykYRAqkWAJ0T7v/b67Pq1YRviUvzFUNIBTfZaACfWfyR HeAvbhdbvNbQ9jkNU3hE/dc= =DGTb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
