Greylisting: discussion should stop here, for now (Re: greylisting on debian.org?)
Apart from the fact that the opinions seem to be set (and haven't really changed since the last time the discussion came up IIRC, so we really can stop arguing - nothing new for quite some time...): am I correct in my observation that nobody who has participated in this discussion up to now is involved in Debian email administration? I had a quick look at http://www.debian.org/intro/organization, but I didn't really check all names. So even if the discussion leans in favor of greylisting on RBL (SBL+XBL? Or also DUL, spamcop, ...?): is there any chance of this getting anywhere? cheers -- vbi -- Computer programmers don't byte, they nibble a bit. pgp9ga3YUdUgE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Greylisting: discussion should stop here, for now (Re: greylisting on debian.org?)
Le mar 18 juillet 2006 13:20, Adrian von Bidder a écrit : Apart from the fact that the opinions seem to be set (and haven't really changed since the last time the discussion came up IIRC, so we really can stop arguing - nothing new for quite some time...): am I correct in my observation that nobody who has participated in this discussion up to now is involved in Debian email administration? I had a quick look at http://www.debian.org/intro/organization, but I didn't really check all names. For the record (it was already said in the thread IIRC), the setup we are discussing is in production on alioth since sth like 4 or 5 monthes now (maybe a bit less) on my idea, and thanks to Raphael Hertzog for actually using his alioth admin hat to put it together. so as a matter of a fact, yes, I've already worked in a way so that such solutions can be implemented where there is reachable and listening people to work with. So even if the discussion leans in favor of greylisting on RBL (SBL+XBL? Or also DUL, spamcop, ...?): is there any chance of this getting anywhere? I'm not sure the DSA team is a very open one, if I'm mistaken, then take that mail as an official application request, either for a temporary delegation (or for a more permanent thing) to work on implementing more efficient mail delivery on debian MX'es. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpzougW7nRbL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Greylisting: discussion should stop here, for now (Re: greylisting on debian.org?)
Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For the record (it was already said in the thread IIRC), the setup we are discussing is in production on alioth since sth like 4 or 5 monthes now (maybe a bit less) on my idea, and thanks to Raphael Hertzog for actually using his alioth admin hat to put it together. Can you document on the relevant web page exactly how the graylisting works and what specific things get blocked and when? Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Greylisting: discussion should stop here, for now (Re: greylisting on debian.org?)
Le mar 18 juillet 2006 21:26, Thomas Bushnell BSG a écrit : Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For the record (it was already said in the thread IIRC), the setup we are discussing is in production on alioth since sth like 4 or 5 monthes now (maybe a bit less) on my idea, and thanks to Raphael Hertzog for actually using his alioth admin hat to put it together. Can you document on the relevant web page exactly how the graylisting works and what specific things get blocked and when? I've already gived numbers in the thread (even graphs), for a similar setup. I don't have access to alioth logs, but the setup is world readable, log on alioth and read it ;) Moreover, as there is quite few valid aliases, alioth greylist do not takes care of the recipient in account for the greylisting, but only the MAIL FROM + SENDER IP, which a good trade off for alioth, but may not be true for DD accounts. that's the sole deviation of what has been discussed here, and is not very relevant to the discussion anyway. Technically, I don't know what you want me to say more than what is explained on my blog and in that thread (or in alioth's world readable exim.conf). Moreover I don't see what value the 6 or 7 mails that you posted less than 1 hour ago, in the same quarter, answering to at least half of the most recents posts in the thread, have made the discussion make any progress. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgp2b0E7CPZll.pgp Description: PGP signature