Re: ITP: gzrt -- gzip recovery toolkit
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Wise wrote: On Thu, 2006-07-13 at 19:35 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: Please install cpio 2.5 or higher to facilitate recovery from damaged gzipped tarballs. I will drop the version from the description and add cpio to the suggests. Which is stronger? I added the suggestion to the description because I guess that .tar.gz will be the most common type of file being recovered and because suggests/recommends do not tell humans exactly how/why cpio is useful to install alongside gzrt. I've always thought that it would be useful if the maintainer would give some blur as to why package snagglefrob recommends pussywillow. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Is common sense really valid? For example, it is common sense to white-power racists that whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins are mud people. However, that common sense is obviously wrong. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEueRlS9HxQb37XmcRAriLAKCRWqGdmBAXKpEcqvSEKSpbMgJmJwCgmtRn LH8eEcBQYuVqT9e6/mt5R7A= =NSBd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ITP: gzrt -- gzip recovery toolkit
* Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-07-16 07:17]: On Thu, 2006-07-13 at 19:35 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: Please install cpio 2.5 or higher to facilitate recovery from damaged gzipped tarballs. I will drop the version from the description and add cpio to the suggests. I added the suggestion to the description because I guess that .tar.gz will be the most common type of file being recovered and because suggests/recommends do not tell humans exactly how/why cpio is useful to install alongside gzrt. You can recommend it, it just isn't necessary to point out the 2.5 version as stable has 2.5-1.3 and etch will have 2.6 or newer. Just change the description to something like You will need to install cpio to facilitate recovery from damaged gzipped tarballs. yours Martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux - The Universal Operating System Alfie Ah, vergessen -- Du verwendest ja auch das Biest emacs. weasel jetzt wirst du beleidigend Alfie ,) Ganneff weasel nutzt emacs? maxx weasel: du emacs? weasel Alfie: *TRET* Alfie So entstehen gerüch(t)e *ggg* weasel so entstehen leichen...
Re: ITP: gzrt -- gzip recovery toolkit
On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 13:14 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Thu, 2006-07-13 at 19:35 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: Please install cpio 2.5 or higher to facilitate recovery from damaged gzipped tarballs. I will drop the version from the description and add cpio to the suggests. I added the suggestion to the description because I guess that .tar.gz will be the most common type of file being recovered I agree that that is a common type of file to recover, so that would make it more appropriate to Recommend cpio rather than Suggest. Thijs signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: ITP: gzrt -- gzip recovery toolkit
On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 10:11:41AM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 13:14 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: I will drop the version from the description and add cpio to the suggests. I added the suggestion to the description because I guess that .tar.gz will be the most common type of file being recovered I agree that that is a common type of file to recover, so that would make it more appropriate to Recommend cpio rather than Suggest. a common type? Come on, that's not just common, it's a vast majority of cases. And, a hard Depend on a small priority=important package is not a big burden -- what about just having a dependency without the comment? -- 1KB // Microsoft corollary to Hanlon's razor: // Never attribute to stupidity what can be // adequately explained by malice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Depends vs. Recommends (Was: Bug#378112: ITP: gzrt -- gzip recovery toolkit)
Adam Borowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 10:11:41AM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: I agree that that is a common type of file to recover, so that would make it more appropriate to Recommend cpio rather than Suggest. a common type? Come on, that's not just common, it's a vast majority of cases. And, a hard Depend on a small priority=important package is not a big burden -- what about just having a dependency without the comment? No. And the reason can be found in Policy section 7.2: Depends This declares an absolute dependency. A package will not be configured unless all of the packages listed in its Depends field have been correctly configured. The Depends field should be used if the depended-on package is required for the depending package to provide a significant amount of functionality. The Depends field should also be used if the postinst, prerm or postrm scripts require the package to be present in order to run. Note, however, that the postrm cannot rely on any non-essential packages to be present during the purge phase. Recommends This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency. The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together with this one in all but unusual installations. The dependency system is used to make sure things don't break on the _system_ level. To ease upgrades, transitions, etc., dependencies (Depends) should be kept to the absolute minimum. Cheers, -- Jens Peter Secher _DD6A 05B0 174E BFB2 D4D9 B52E 0EE5 978A FE63 E8A1 jpsecher gmail com_ A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q. Why is top posting bad? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ITP: gzrt -- gzip recovery toolkit
On Thu, 2006-07-13 at 19:35 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: Please install cpio 2.5 or higher to facilitate recovery from damaged gzipped tarballs. I will drop the version from the description and add cpio to the suggests. I added the suggestion to the description because I guess that .tar.gz will be the most common type of file being recovered and because suggests/recommends do not tell humans exactly how/why cpio is useful to install alongside gzrt. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#378112: ITP: gzrt -- gzip recovery toolkit
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: gzrt Version : 0.4 Upstream Author : Aaron M. Renn * URL : http://www.urbanophile.com/arenn/hacking/gzrt/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : gzip recovery toolkit gzrecover will attempt to skip over corrupted data in a gzip archive, thereby allowing the remaining data to be recovered. Please install cpio 2.5 or higher to facilitate recovery from damaged gzipped tarballs. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Bug#378112: ITP: gzrt -- gzip recovery toolkit
* Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-07-13 15:54]: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: gzrt Version : 0.4 Upstream Author : Aaron M. Renn * URL : http://www.urbanophile.com/arenn/hacking/gzrt/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : gzip recovery toolkit gzrecover will attempt to skip over corrupted data in a gzip archive, thereby allowing the remaining data to be recovered. Please install cpio 2.5 or higher to facilitate recovery from damaged gzipped tarballs. No need to mension it in the description, that's what dependencies are for. yours Martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux - The Universal Operating System lun4tic was is denn so schlimm an CTCP ? maxx[tm] einfach alles lun4tic bzw. warum kanns dann jeder client? maxx[tm] fehler im system
Re: Bug#378112: ITP: gzrt -- gzip recovery toolkit
[Martin Wuertele] Please install cpio 2.5 or higher to facilitate recovery from damaged gzipped tarballs. No need to mension it in the description, that's what dependencies are for. Presumably he intends to merely Recommend cpio, in which case it's entirely appropriate to explain why in the description. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bug#378112: ITP: gzrt -- gzip recovery toolkit
On Jul 13, Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Presumably he intends to merely Recommend cpio, in which case it's entirely appropriate to explain why in the description. README.Debian maybe, but not in the description... -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bug#378112: ITP: gzrt -- gzip recovery toolkit
Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) On Jul 13, Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Presumably he intends to merely Recommend cpio, in which case it's entirely appropriate to explain why in the description. README.Debian maybe, but not in the description... The package description is the appropriate place to document what the recommendations are there for. Contrary to README.Debian, it is shown by apt frontends at the time where a user need to decide whether he can ignore the recommendation (for example, if the recommended packages are uninstallable on his system for some reason). -- Henning Makholm Set your feet free! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#378112: ITP: gzrt -- gzip recovery toolkit
* Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-07-13 16:48]: [Martin Wuertele] Please install cpio 2.5 or higher to facilitate recovery from damaged gzipped tarballs. No need to mension it in the description, that's what dependencies are for. Presumably he intends to merely Recommend cpio, in which case it's entirely appropriate to explain why in the description. No need to mension it at all (skipping woody): cpio |2.5-1.3 |stable | source, (...) cpio | 2.6-15 | testing | source, (...) cpio | 2.6-16 | unstable | source, (...) yours Martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux - The Universal Operating System Rhonda weasel: wenn du typo3 auf die asteria gibt, dann lock ich dich eigenhändig aus
Re: Bug#378112: ITP: gzrt -- gzip recovery toolkit
* Martin Wuertele [Thu, 13 Jul 2006 22:24:38 +0200]: Please install cpio 2.5 or higher to facilitate recovery from damaged gzipped tarballs. No need to mension it at all (skipping woody): ^^ Hopefully it == the version :) As Henning, I also think briefly mentioning relevant Recommended packages is appropriate for package descriptions. cpio |2.5-1.3 |stable | source, (...) cpio | 2.6-15 | testing | source, (...) cpio | 2.6-16 | unstable | source, (...) Cheers, -- Adeodato Simó dato at net.com.org.es Debian Developer adeodato at debian.org — Quieto parao. Usted no está en condiciones de ir a ningún sitio. Dígame dónde está la muchacha y yo iré a por ella. — No sé dónde está. — Le voy a pedir que sea algo más específico. -- Carlos Ruiz Zafón, “La sombra del viento” -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
