Re: Intent to package: eggdrop
On Tue, 5 May 1998, Johnie Ingram wrote: This software has served the #debian channel for over 9 months, and is GPL. From the README: Eggdrop is an IRC bot, written in C. If you don't know what IRC is, this is probably not whatever you're looking for! Eggdrop, being a bot, sits on a channel and takes protective measures: to keep the channel from being taken over (in the few ways that anything CAN), to recognize banished users or sites and reject them, to recognize priveledged users and let them gain ops, etc. This has been discussed before, after you proposed to do this on 'Mon, 17 Nov 1997 07:34:31 -0500'. The outcome was that it might be too dangerous to package a program that can do as much damage as an IRC bot can do when it is improperly configured. You might want to check out the discussion at http://www.nl.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-devel-9711/threads.html#00801 The consensus about this may have changed since then, so I'm not saying you should not package it. However, think twice and discuss it on debian-devel before you do so. Remco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intent to package: eggdrop
Hi, I guess we shold also remove rm. That program can be downright nasty in the hands of the uninitiated. What about mkfs? oh, man, the kind of damage _that_ does. Oh, you say that that can only harm the local machine? Well, we should take away all the MTA's then (is spam not 80% of all traffic now?). And all the mail user againts (quite dangerous in the hands of the uninitiated, and can reall mess up peoples mailboxes). Since when have we refused to package things cause they are ``dangerous'' or not the right religion? Stopping egg drop is a bad precedent (it is not as if egg drop is not freely available at that). If you do not make mistakes, you can't learn that much either. Remco == Remco Blaakmeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Remco This has been discussed before, after you proposed to do this Remco on 'Mon, 17 Nov 1997 07:34:31 -0500'. The outcome was that it Remco might be too dangerous to package a program that can do as much Remco damage as an IRC bot can do when it is improperly Remco configured. You might want to check out the discussion at Remco http://www.nl.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-devel-9711/threads.html#00801 Remco The consensus about this may have changed since then, so I'm Remco not saying you should not package it. However, think twice and Remco discuss it on debian-devel before you do so. In this case, I think the consensus would not be achievable. I for one shall oppose any attempts to bann a package cause it may be to dangerous for our users. This is not an elite cabal. I see that netgod has already uploaded; if he backs out, take this as an intent to package eggdrop. I apologize of this sounds confrontational; that was not my intent, but it has begun to sound that way (even to me ;-) manoj -- New York is a jungle, they tell you. You could go further, and say that New York is a jungle. New York *is a jungle.* Beneath the columns of the old rain forest, made of melting macadam, the mean Limpopo of swamped Ninth Avenue bears an angry argosy of crocs and dragons, tiger fish, noise machines, sweating rainmakers. On the corners stand witchdoctors and headhunters, babbling voodoo-men -- the natives, the jungle-smart natives. And at night, under the equatorial overgrowth and heat-holding cloud cover, you hear the ragged parrot-hoot and monkeysqueak of the sirens, and then fires flower to ward off monsters. Careful: the streets are sprung with pits and nets and traps. Hire a guide. Pack your snakebite gook and your blowdart serum. Take it seriously. You have to get a bit jungle-wise. Martin Amis, _Money_ Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intent to package: eggdrop
On 5 May 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Hi, I guess we shold also remove rm. That program can be downright nasty in the hands of the uninitiated. What about mkfs? oh, man, the kind of damage _that_ does. Oh, you say that that can only harm the local machine? Well, we should take away all the MTA's then (is spam not 80% of all traffic now?). And all the mail user againts (quite dangerous in the hands of the uninitiated, and can reall mess up peoples mailboxes). Since when have we refused to package things cause they are ``dangerous'' or not the right religion? Stopping egg drop is a bad precedent (it is not as if egg drop is not freely available at that). If you do not make mistakes, you can't learn that much either. I know why you are so cynical and you may be right. It was not me who actively opposed to the packaging of eggdrop in the previous discussion about this subject. But the result from that discussion was that eggdrop wasn't packaged, so I asked for another discussion. I don't really have a strong opinion in this case, so go ahead and package eggdrop if you like. Remco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Intent to package: eggdrop
This software has served the #debian channel for over 9 months, and is GPL. From the README: Eggdrop is an IRC bot, written in C. If you don't know what IRC is, this is probably not whatever you're looking for! Eggdrop, being a bot, sits on a channel and takes protective measures: to keep the channel from being taken over (in the few ways that anything CAN), to recognize banished users or sites and reject them, to recognize priveledged users and let them gain ops, etc. - PGP E4 70 6E 59 80 6A F5 78 63 32 BC FB 7A 08 53 4C __ _Debian GNU Johnie Ingram [EMAIL PROTECTED] mm mm / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __netgod irc.debian.org mm mm / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / m m m / /__| | | | | |_| |Those who do not understand UNIX mm mm \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ are doomed to repeat it, poorly. GO BLUE -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
