Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo
Am Dienstag, den 28.05.2013, 22:45 -0400 schrieb Ryan Kavanagh: On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 05:08:06PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: There have been two responses to your proposal so far, neither of which particularly looks to be in favor of your plan. I don't think it's reasonable to proceed with a mass-bug filing on over 800 packages as a first step, certainly not after such a short comment period. Sorry, I was overly eager in pushing this change. Thanks Steve for being the tempering voice of reason. As for the package count, where did you find the additional 700+ packages? If I'm missing something, please let me know. Of matches in the search[0] Paul Wise linked to, many matches are from the same package, or more prominently (as with e.g., festival, gcc, geiser, id-utils, gcl, etc.), found in the upstream build system but never called at build time (one can deduce this from the fact that they don't build-depend on texi2html). As I stated in my initial email, there are at most 96 packages which would require some form of change, and these are the packages that either build-depend (94) or depend (2) on texi2html. Have you checked indirect build-dependencies on texi2html (e.g. the package build depends on foo, which depends on texi2html)? -- Benjamin Drung Debian Ubuntu Developer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1369819747.2863.4.camel@deep-thought
Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:29:07AM +0200, Benjamin Drung wrote: Have you checked indirect build-dependencies on texi2html (e.g. the package build depends on foo, which depends on texi2html)? ryan@nu:~$ reverse-depends texi2html Reverse-Depends === * translate-docformat Packages without architectures listed are reverse-dependencies in: amd64, armel, armhf, hurd-i386, i386, ia64, kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390x, sparc ryan@nu:~$ reverse-depends -b translate-docformat No reverse dependencies found It looks like one of the two reverse-dependencies has disappeared. But yes, there are no indirect build-dependencies on texi2html. Best wishes, Ryan -- |_)|_/ Ryan Kavanagh | Debian Developer | \| \ http://ryanak.ca/ | GPG Key 4A11C97A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo
Le mardi 28 mai 2013 16:48:50, Ryan Kavanagh a écrit : On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 08:28:37PM -0400, Ryan Kavanagh wrote: See attached for a dd-list of affected packages. On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 04:37:44PM +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: Please attach a list of packages run through dd-list before doing the MBF. Sorry, I guess I forgot to actually attach the list. Let's try that again :) Thomas Preud'homme robo...@celest.fr tcc Thomas Preud'homme robo...@debian.org tcc Fixed upstream already and I cherry-picked the patch for the next upload so -1 :) Best wishes, Ryan Best regards, Thomas signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo
Hi Sébastien, hi all, On Di, 28 Mai 2013, Sébastien Villemot wrote: AFAIK, makeinfo is not able to render @math blocks as images (formatted with LaTeX), while texi2html does. The output of math formulas with On the bug-texinfo list I got the following answer from Patrice Dumas, the author: On Do, 30 Mai 2013, Patrice Dumas wrote: This is already in. There are no built-in command line option anymore, but it would be enabled by something along texi2any --html --iftex --init latex2html.pm or, with tex4ht texi2any --html --iftex --init tex4ht.pm Ryan: I would add this to the MBF email so that people can test it with their packages. Adding a wrapper texi2html that does similar thing could also be an option, as suggested. Norbert PREINING, Norbert http://www.preining.info JAIST, Japan TeX Live Debian Developer DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130530003615.ge15...@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at
Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo
Le lundi 27 mai 2013 à 20:28 -0400, Ryan Kavanagh a écrit : In coordination with Norbert Preining, I propose a MBF against all packages depending on or build-depending on texi2html, asking them to transition from the `texi2html' utility to the `makeinfo' utility from the texinfo package, with the end goal of being able to remove the texi2html package from the archive. This is because: 1) texi2html is dead upstream since 2011 and has been superseeded by Texinfo, as documented on the texi2html front page[0]. 2) texi2html is currently orphaned in Debian since 2013-01-13[1] (I currently have it ITA'd). 3) transitioning from texi2html to makeinfo can be done with minimal effort, see e.g., this patch against bc[2], and now seems to be the opportune time to perform such a transition. AFAIK, makeinfo is not able to render @math blocks as images (formatted with LaTeX), while texi2html does. The output of math formulas with makeinfo --html is very ugly, since it basically dumps the Texi/LaTeX source of the formula in the HTML. Unless I am missing something (like a makeinfo option/flag), it means that makeinfo is not a complete replacement of texi2html, and I would therefore prefer to keep texi2html around (until makeinfo grows the missing feature). I use the ability to have nice math formulas in HTML in one of my scientific packages. -- .''`.Sébastien Villemot : :' :Debian Developer `. `' http://www.dynare.org/sebastien `- GPG Key: 4096R/381A7594 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 08:45:04AM +0200, Sébastien Villemot wrote: AFAIK, makeinfo is not able to render @math blocks as images (formatted with LaTeX), while texi2html does. The output of math formulas with makeinfo --html is very ugly, since it basically dumps the Texi/LaTeX source of the formula in the HTML. I didn't know that, but that seems to be right according to §14.6 of the Texinfo manual[0]. The other differences between texi2html and makeinfo are documented in §22.8 of the Texinfo manual[1]. I would therefore prefer to keep texi2html around (until makeinfo grows the missing feature). I use the ability to have nice math formulas in HTML in one of my scientific packages. That sounds very fair. I can update the texi2html package to the 5.0 upstream release (Closes: #615812) and just disable the test checking which was causing FTBFS---even the pristine upstream tarball fails its tests! Norbert, as Texinfo maintainer, do you know if upstream has an ITA for when the math-images-in-HTML will arrive in makeinfo? Again, to quote from the texi2html front page[2], the route forward for authors is, in most cases, to alter manuals and build processes as necessary to use the new features of the makeinfo/texi2any implementation of GNU Texinfo. The Texi2HTML maintainers (one of whom is the principal author of the GNU Texinfo implementation) do not intend to make further releases of Texi2HTML. On the basis of Sébastien's objection, I propose the MBF to have severity wishlist and the following amended text. Not everybody will be able to transition from texi2html, but those who can should. It will be easier to transition the remaining few packages that use math functionality when makeinfo gains those features than to additionally have to transition all those that could have transitioned now. -- BEGIN AMENDED MBF TEXT -- Dear maintainer, [ This is an automated bug report, submitted as part of the mass bug filing discussed at TODO-ADD-URL-TO-DEVEL-THREAD-HERE ] The texi2html package on which your package depends or build-depends is unmaintained upstream and destined to be removed from the archive in the near future. Unless your package makes use of texi2html functionality not yet provided by `makeinfo' utility from the texinfo package, e.g. rendering @math blocks as images in HTML output, please update your package to use `makeinfo' instead. More details may be found at http://wiki.debian.org/Texi2htmlTransition . Thanks for considering, Best wishes. -- END AMENDED MBF TEXT -- [0] http://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/manual/texinfo/texinfo.html#Inserting-Math [1] http://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/manual/texinfo/texinfo.html#texi2html [2] http://www.nongnu.org/texi2html/ -- |_)|_/ Ryan Kavanagh | Debian Developer | \| \ http://ryanak.ca/ | GPG Key 4A11C97A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo
On 28/05/13 16:01, Ryan Kavanagh wrote: On the basis of Sébastien's objection, I propose the MBF to have severity wishlist and the following amended text. Not everybody will be able to transition from texi2html, but those who can should. It will be easier to transition the remaining few packages that use math functionality when makeinfo gains those features than to additionally have to transition all those that could have transitioned now. Please attach a list of packages run through dd-list before doing the MBF. Thanks, Emilio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51a4c138.4000...@debian.org
Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 08:28:37PM -0400, Ryan Kavanagh wrote: See attached for a dd-list of affected packages. On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 04:37:44PM +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: Please attach a list of packages run through dd-list before doing the MBF. Sorry, I guess I forgot to actually attach the list. Let's try that again :) Best wishes, Ryan -- |_)|_/ Ryan Kavanagh | Debian Developer | \| \ http://ryanak.ca/ | GPG Key 4A11C97A Adam Conrad adcon...@0c3.net glibc-doc-reference (U) Andreas Barth a...@not.so.argh.org mgetty Andreas Metzler ametz...@debian.org autogen Andreas Tille ti...@debian.org blitz++ (U) Andres Mejia ame...@debian.org libav (U) Arjan Oosting ar...@debian.org drift Arthur Loiret arthur.loi...@gmail.com tcc (U) Aurelien Jarno aure...@debian.org glibc-doc-reference (U) qemu (U) Axel Beckert a...@debian.org zsh (U) Barak A. Pearlmutter b...@debian.org bbdb (U) ilisp mailcrypt (U) Barry deFreese bddeb...@comcast.net xnee (U) Ben Pfaff b...@cs.stanford.edu pspp (U) Ben Pfaff pfaff...@debian.org autoconf2.13 Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com time bojo42 boj...@gmail.com pspp Bradley Smith bradsm...@debian.org autogen Christophe Trophime christophe.troph...@lncmi.cnrs.fr blitz++ (U) Clint Adams cl...@debian.org zsh (U) zsh-beta Clint Adams sch...@debian.org glibc-doc-reference (U) Colin Watson cjwat...@debian.org grub (U) D Haley my...@yahoo.com mathgl (U) Daniel Jacobowitz d...@debian.org glibc-doc-reference (U) Davide G. M. Salvetti sa...@debian.org auctex mailcrypt Debian Accessibility Team debian-accessibil...@lists.debian.org flite Debian Common Lisp Team pkg-common-lisp-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org cl-plplot Debian GNUstep maintainers pkg-gnustep-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org gnustep-base gnustep-dl2 (U) gnustep-gui gnustep-make gorm.app (U) Debian Lustre Packaging Team pkg-lustre-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org ldiskfsprogs Debian Multimedia Maintainers pkg-multimedia-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org libav rumor Debian Multimedia Team debian-multime...@lists.debian.org ocp (U) Debian OCaml Maintainers debian-ocaml-ma...@lists.debian.org apron Debian Octave Group pkg-octave-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org dynare octave Debian QA Group packa...@qa.debian.org bc emacspeak Debian QEMU Team pkg-qemu-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org qemu Debian Science Maintainers debian-science-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org maria mathgl rheolef yorick Debian Science Team debian-science-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org blitz++ geomview Debian Zsh Maintainers pkg-zsh-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org zsh Dimitrios Eftaxiopoulos eftax...@otenet.gr mathgl (U) Dirk Eddelbuettel e...@debian.org ess (U) r-base rpy Don Armstrong d...@debian.org lilypond Erich Schubert er...@debian.org enigma ESS Debian Maintainers ess-deb...@r-project.org ess Fabian Greffrath fabian+deb...@greffrath.com libav (U) Federico Gimenez Nieto fgime...@coit.es gnustep-dl2 Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) f...@debian.org translate-docformat Felix Zielcke fziel...@z-51.de grub (U) multiboot (U) Francesco Paolo Lovergine fran...@debian.org zlibc Francois-Denis Gonthier neum...@lostwebsite.net boa Frank Terbeck f...@bewatermyfriend.org zsh (U) Ganesan Rajagopal rgane...@debian.org jlint GNU Hurd Maintainers debian-h...@lists.debian.org hurd GNU Libc Maintainers debian-gl...@lists.debian.org glibc-doc-reference GOTO Masanori go...@debian.org glibc-doc-reference (U) GRUB Maintainers pkg-grub-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org grub multiboot Guus Sliepen g...@debian.org tinc Gürkan Sengün gur...@phys.ethz.ch gnustep-base (U) gnustep-gui (U) gnustep-make (U) gorm.app ocp Hendrik Tews hend...@askra.de proofgeneral Jari Aalto jari.aa...@cante.net genparse Jeff Bailey jbai...@raspberryginger.com glibc-doc-reference (U) hurd (U) Joerg Jaspert jo...@debian.org bbdb elib John Sullivan jo...@debian.org planner-el Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk libav (U) Jordi Mallach jo...@debian.org multiboot (U) Kurt Roeckx k...@roeckx.be libtool Loïc Minier l...@debian.org libav (U) Ludovic Brenta lbre...@debian.org asis polyorb (U) Lukas Loehrer loehr...@gmx.net flite (U) Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org make-doc-non-dfsg vm Mario Lang ml...@debian.org erc (U) flite (U) Martin A. Godisch godi...@debian.org gnugo Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre mathieu...@gmail.com acct Matteo Cypriani m...@lm7.fr fdutils Matthias Klose d...@debian.org bash Matthias Urlichs sm...@debian.org mgetty (U) Michael Banck mba...@debian.org hurd (U) Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org avrdude Michael Prokop m...@debian.org zsh (U) Michael Tokarev m...@tls.msk.ru qemu (U) Michael
Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo
As a final notice, unless I get any objections (there have been none so far), I plan to go forward with the MBF at 03:00UTC on 2013-05-29. As explained on the Texi2htmlTransition wiki page[0], if you are unwilling/unable to transition to texinfo due to missing math rendering, please mark your bug as blocking on http://bugs.debian.org/710171 . I've settled on severity `minor'. Earlier today, I thought of severity `wishlist', but this is neither a feature request nor a bug that is very difficult to fix due to major design considerations, but rather a problem which doesn't affect the package's usefulness, and is presumably trivial to fix[1]. The final versions of the text are -- Dear maintainer, [ This is an automated bug report, submitted as part of the mass bug filing discussed at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/05/msg01516.html ] The package `texi2html` on which #PACKAGE# build-depends is unmaintained upstream and destined to be removed from the archive in the near future. Unless your package makes use of texi2html functionality not yet provided by `makeinfo' utility from the texinfo package, e.g. rendering @math blocks as images in HTML output, please update your package to use `makeinfo' instead. More details may be found at http://wiki.debian.org/Texi2htmlTransition . Thanks for considering, Best wishes. -- for reverse-build-dependencies, and -- Dear maintainer, [ This is an automated bug report, submitted as part of the mass bug filing discussed at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/05/msg01516.html ] The package `texi2html` on which #PACKAGE# depends is unmaintained upstream and destined to be removed from the archive in the near future. Unless your package makes use of texi2html functionality not yet provided by `makeinfo' utility from the texinfo package, e.g. rendering @math blocks as images in HTML output, please update your package to use `makeinfo' instead. More details may be found at http://wiki.debian.org/Texi2htmlTransition . Thanks for considering, Best wishes. -- for reverse-dependencies. Best wishes, Ryan [0] http://wiki.debian.org/Texi2htmlTransition [1] http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#severities -- |_)|_/ Ryan Kavanagh | Debian Developer | \| \ http://ryanak.ca/ | GPG Key 4A11C97A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 07:06:23PM -0400, Ryan Kavanagh wrote: As a final notice, unless I get any objections (there have been none so far), I plan to go forward with the MBF at 03:00UTC on 2013-05-29. As explained on the Texi2htmlTransition wiki page[0], if you are unwilling/unable to transition to texinfo due to missing math rendering, please mark your bug as blocking on http://bugs.debian.org/710171 . There have been two responses to your proposal so far, neither of which particularly looks to be in favor of your plan. I don't think it's reasonable to proceed with a mass-bug filing on over 800 packages as a first step, certainly not after such a short comment period. Why are you not proposing to provide a texi2html wrapper from the makeinfo package which translates the arguments as described on http://wiki.debian.org/Texi2htmlTransition, and have makeinfo Provide: texi2html? That would surely allow you to remove the texi2html package from the archive much more quickly than your current plan, and with less unnecessary pressure on maintainers to transition. This could be coupled with a lintian warning, or other soft means of encouraging maintainers to do the transition. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com vor...@debian.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo
On Di, 28 Mai 2013, Ryan Kavanagh wrote: Norbert, as Texinfo maintainer, do you know if upstream has an ITA for when the math-images-in-HTML will arrive in makeinfo? No I don't know, but I have forwarded the question to bug-texinfo, let us see what we get. Norbert PREINING, Norbert http://www.preining.info JAIST, Japan TeX Live Debian Developer DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130529005505.gh7...@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at
Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 05:08:06PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: There have been two responses to your proposal so far, neither of which particularly looks to be in favor of your plan. I don't think it's reasonable to proceed with a mass-bug filing on over 800 packages as a first step, certainly not after such a short comment period. Sorry, I was overly eager in pushing this change. Thanks Steve for being the tempering voice of reason. As for the package count, where did you find the additional 700+ packages? If I'm missing something, please let me know. Of matches in the search[0] Paul Wise linked to, many matches are from the same package, or more prominently (as with e.g., festival, gcc, geiser, id-utils, gcl, etc.), found in the upstream build system but never called at build time (one can deduce this from the fact that they don't build-depend on texi2html). As I stated in my initial email, there are at most 96 packages which would require some form of change, and these are the packages that either build-depend (94) or depend (2) on texi2html. I'll give it a week long comment period to see if people see any value in the MBF. If there is public support of the idea, then I'll go ahead with it, otherwise I will proceed as described at the end of this email. Why are you not proposing to provide a texi2html wrapper from the makeinfo package which translates the arguments as described on http://wiki.debian.org/Texi2htmlTransition, and have makeinfo Provide: texi2html? If by this, you mean remove the texi2html package from the archive after introducing the texi2html wrapper for makeinfo, and hope people would then transition after being warned by lintian, then it would fail to address Sébastien's concerns. If you mean something else, could please explain in greater detail what you meant, and how it would allow me to remove the texi2html package much more quickly from the archive than with my current plan? This could be coupled with a lintian warning, or other soft means of encouraging maintainers to do the transition. Given the above, I think the best approach, assuming there's no further support of the MBF over the next week, is: * start off with a lintian warning (lintian maintainers willing); * in 3, 4, or 6 months time, proceed with a mass bug filing against the remaining packages. Steve, does this seem reasonable to you? Respectfully yours, Ryan [0] http://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=texi2htmlskip=877 -- |_)|_/ Ryan Kavanagh | Debian Developer | \| \ http://ryanak.ca/ | GPG Key 4A11C97A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:45:25PM -0400, Ryan Kavanagh wrote: On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 05:08:06PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: There have been two responses to your proposal so far, neither of which particularly looks to be in favor of your plan. I don't think it's reasonable to proceed with a mass-bug filing on over 800 packages as a first step, certainly not after such a short comment period. As for the package count, where did you find the additional 700+ packages? If I'm missing something, please let me know. Of matches in the search[0] Paul Wise linked to, many matches are from the same package, or more prominently (as with e.g., festival, gcc, geiser, id-utils, gcl, etc.), found in the upstream build system but never called at build time (one can deduce this from the fact that they don't build-depend on texi2html). As I stated in my initial email, there are at most 96 packages which would require some form of change, and these are the packages that either build-depend (94) or depend (2) on texi2html. Oops, sorry, I misread Paul's mail. I see now that he wrote that there were 877 pages worth [of matches] in Debian sid, not that there were 877 *packages*. So 100 packages does seem much more reasonable to me for an MBF, yes. Why are you not proposing to provide a texi2html wrapper from the makeinfo package which translates the arguments as described on http://wiki.debian.org/Texi2htmlTransition, and have makeinfo Provide: texi2html? If by this, you mean remove the texi2html package from the archive after introducing the texi2html wrapper for makeinfo, and hope people would then transition after being warned by lintian, then it would fail to address Sébastien's concerns. That concern being that makeinfo is not a drop-in replacement for texi2html functionality, and therefore this would cause regressions - ok. If you mean something else, could please explain in greater detail what you meant, and how it would allow me to remove the texi2html package much more quickly from the archive than with my current plan? It is still *potentially* faster, in the sense that in both cases, texi2html can't really be removed until makeinfo is a feature-complete replacement, but in one case we have to wait for all the other reverse-deps to also be updated whereas in the other case we *only* need updates on the makeinfo side (@math support + wrapper) to unblock the texi2html removal. I guess it's a question of whether we think @math support is going to be on the critical path for this transition. This could be coupled with a lintian warning, or other soft means of encouraging maintainers to do the transition. Given the above, I think the best approach, assuming there's no further support of the MBF over the next week, is: * start off with a lintian warning (lintian maintainers willing); * in 3, 4, or 6 months time, proceed with a mass bug filing against the remaining packages. Steve, does this seem reasonable to you? Now that I've read the numbers correctly, I don't mind an MBF here if that's what you prefer. But a lintian warning could probably also be a good approach. Cheers, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com vor...@debian.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature
MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo
In coordination with Norbert Preining, I propose a MBF against all packages depending on or build-depending on texi2html, asking them to transition from the `texi2html' utility to the `makeinfo' utility from the texinfo package, with the end goal of being able to remove the texi2html package from the archive. This is because: 1) texi2html is dead upstream since 2011 and has been superseeded by Texinfo, as documented on the texi2html front page[0]. 2) texi2html is currently orphaned in Debian since 2013-01-13[1] (I currently have it ITA'd). 3) transitioning from texi2html to makeinfo can be done with minimal effort, see e.g., this patch against bc[2], and now seems to be the opportune time to perform such a transition. There are 94 reverse-build-dependencies and 2 reverse-dependencies according to the `reverse-depends' tool. I am prepared to file the bugs against the affected packages, to prepare a lintian check warning against the use of texi2html, to prepare a wiki page documenting how to transition from texi2html to makeinfo, and to start submitting patches. See attached for a dd-list of affected packages. Depending on how pressing people think this issue is, the bugs can have severity wishlist, minor, or normal—I'm leaning towards minor, please let me know if you have a strong opinion otherwise. The proposed bug text is as follows: -- BEGIN -- Dear maintainer, [ This is an automated bug report, submitted as part of the mass bug filing discussed at TODO-ADD-URL-TO-DEVEL-THREAD-HERE ] The texi2html package on which your package depends or build-depends is destined to be removed from the archive in the near future. Please update your package to use the `makeinfo' utility from the texinfo package instead. More details may be found at http://wiki.debian.org/Texi2htmlTransition . Thanks for considering, Best wishes. -- END -- Best wishes, Ryan [0] http://www.nongnu.org/texi2html/ [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=698081 [2] http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/bc.git;a=commitdiff;h=8f6f51467bcb6487579f5372697863bcfb14018a#patch2 -- |_)|_/ Ryan Kavanagh | Debian Developer | \| \ http://ryanak.ca/ | GPG Key 4A11C97A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Ryan Kavanagh wrote: In coordination with Norbert Preining, I propose a MBF against all packages depending on or build-depending on texi2html, asking them to transition from the `texi2html' utility to the `makeinfo' utility from the texinfo package, with the end goal of being able to remove the texi2html package from the archive. This is because: ... There are 94 reverse-build-dependencies and 2 reverse-dependencies according to the `reverse-depends' tool. I am prepared to file the bugs against the affected packages, to prepare a lintian check warning against the use of texi2html, to prepare a wiki page documenting how to transition from texi2html to makeinfo, and to start submitting patches. See attached for a dd-list of affected packages. There are a lot of texi2html uses, 877 pages worth in Debian sid: http://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=texi2htmlskip=877 -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caktje6fc_qmnkb8mcopy0gl0aypxw4feu50hhxmzrs7zygq...@mail.gmail.com
