Re: New Cinnamon Maintainer, looking for help
Hi Marga, On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 08:13:38PM +0200, Margarita Manterola wrote: There's also nothing stopping you from going to the web interface and checking. Actually, there was. I lacked the time and tools to do so when I posted my emails, which is why I asked rather than checking. I would love to see cinnamon actively maintained in Debian and I'm glad there's interested in doing so. I just wanted to make sure that those involved were aware of the process for taking over a package, so there wasn't unnecessary hostility or other problems. So far, nobody replying to my messages has indicated that they are aware of the procedure, and intend to follow it. You will see that before the commits made by Maxy and me there are also the commits made by the previous maintainer. So, yes, it's a clone. Great! The original mail said new packages because most of them are actually new. I see. Thank you for clarifying. Sure. We have now both been added as admins of the pkg-cinnamon repo and will consider moving the git repos there. Since we want MORE people to contribute instead of less, we wanted to get the administrative procedures out of the way, and that's why we originally chose collab-maint instead of waiting for pkg-cinnamon to be made available. I'm personally a big fan of collab-maint and would suggest that when the MIA situation is resolved, if you wanted to keep it in collab-maint I don't see why you should move it again, personally. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140501103049.ga5...@bryant.redmars.org
Re: New Cinnamon Maintainer, looking for help
¡Hola Jonathan!
El 2014-04-28 a las 16:13 +0100, Jonathan Dowland escribió:
The current package is maintained in git already at
http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-cinnamon/cinnamon.git. I haven't
checked but in an ideal world your repository would be a clone of this, to
make
eventual harmonisation easier.
Sadly the current pkg-cinnamon project in alioth has no active admins, so I
can't push in those repositories, so the current packaging efforts are in:
git://git.debian.org/git/collab-maint/cinnamon/cinnamon.git
and
git://git.debian.org/git/collab-maint/cinnamon/{upstream-name}.git
I'll ask the alioth maintainers about taking over the pkg-cinnamon project,
but I think I'll keep the collab-maint git repositories, so even if I get
attacked by ninjas it's easier for a fellow contributor to keep it up to date.
Happy hacking,
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The remaining 10% of the code accounts for the other 90% of the development
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Re: New Cinnamon Maintainer, looking for help
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:46:25AM +0200, Maximiliano Curia wrote: ¡Hola Jonathan! El 2014-04-28 a las 16:13 +0100, Jonathan Dowland escribió: The current package is maintained in git already at http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-cinnamon/cinnamon.git. I haven't checked but in an ideal world your repository would be a clone of this, to make eventual harmonisation easier. Sadly the current pkg-cinnamon project in alioth has no active admins, so I can't push in those repositories, so the current packaging efforts are in: Hi, yes, I realise you can't push to that repo, so you have another. That's not my point. There's nothing stopping your other repo from being a clone of the original, so there's a relationship between your efforts and the current package in Debian. Then, when the developer MIA / package maintainer situation is resolved, these can all be reconciled. I'll ask the alioth maintainers about taking over the pkg-cinnamon project, but I think I'll keep the collab-maint git repositories, so even if I get attacked by ninjas it's easier for a fellow contributor to keep it up to date. Did you refresh your understanding of the MIA process? Taking over the repo, or the package, is not the way to go about solving this problem! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140429130723.ga27...@bryant.redmars.org
Re: New Cinnamon Maintainer, looking for help
Hi, I've been working with Maxy in creating these packages and I can answer your questions. On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org wrote: Hi, yes, I realise you can't push to that repo, so you have another. That's not my point. There's nothing stopping your other repo from being a clone of the original, so there's a relationship between your efforts and the current package in Debian. There's also nothing stopping you from going to the web interface and checking. If you go to: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/cinnamon/cinnamon.git;a=shortlog You will see that before the commits made by Maxy and me there are also the commits made by the previous maintainer. So, yes, it's a clone. The original mail said new packages because most of them are actually new. Since cinnamon 1.7, the cinnamon desktop environment has added many more packages that were not included in that release, and so it was impossible to clone from them. The packages uploaded by the previous maintainer were cinnamon, muffin and nemo. The packages currently prepared by us are: cinnamon-desktop, cinnamon-menus, cinnamon-session, cinnamon-themes, cjs, cinnamon-screensaver, cinnamon-settings-daemon, muffin, nemo, cinnamon, cinnamon-control-center, cinnamon-bluetooth Then, when the developer MIA / package maintainer situation is resolved, these can all be reconciled. Sure. We have now both been added as admins of the pkg-cinnamon repo and will consider moving the git repos there. Since we want MORE people to contribute instead of less, we wanted to get the administrative procedures out of the way, and that's why we originally chose collab-maint instead of waiting for pkg-cinnamon to be made available. -- Besos, Marga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cap+fksojxfse7q_y45z+neguzejfrhzmrv4dvnbkrf6w6ha...@mail.gmail.com
Re: New Cinnamon Maintainer, looking for help
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 04:14:36PM +0200, Maximiliano Curia wrote: The cinnamon package and dependencies included in Debian are currently uninstallable, and have been unmantained for a year. I have prepared new packages, adding their sources to the collab-maint alioth project. There's still quite a lot of work to do in order to bring these packages into Debian shape, so I encourage anyone who's interested to contact me, so that we can work together. You should not start with fresh packages. We have processes for managing this situation: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/beyond-pkging.html#mia-qa The current package is maintained in git already at http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-cinnamon/cinnamon.git. I haven't checked but in an ideal world your repository would be a clone of this, to make eventual harmonisation easier. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140428151302.ga3...@bryant.redmars.org
Re: New Cinnamon Maintainer, looking for help
Hi! On Apr 26, 2014 4:26 PM, Maximiliano Curia m...@debian.org wrote: Hi, Cinnamon is a desktop environment based on GNOME, but with a different shell and some other replaced parts (screensaver, file manager, system settings, etc). It was created by Linux Mint, but it's independent of the distribution. The cinnamon package and dependencies included in Debian are currently uninstallable, and have been unmantained for a year. I have prepared new packages, adding their sources to the collab-maint alioth project. There's still quite a lot of work to do in order to bring these packages into Debian shape, so I encourage anyone who's interested to contact me, so that we can work together. I'd love to help, somehow. -- Matteo F. Vescovi Debian Maintainer GnuPG KeyID: 0x83B2CF7A
New Cinnamon Maintainer, looking for help
Hi, Cinnamon is a desktop environment based on GNOME, but with a different shell and some other replaced parts (screensaver, file manager, system settings, etc). It was created by Linux Mint, but it's independent of the distribution. The cinnamon package and dependencies included in Debian are currently uninstallable, and have been unmantained for a year. I have prepared new packages, adding their sources to the collab-maint alioth project. There's still quite a lot of work to do in order to bring these packages into Debian shape, so I encourage anyone who's interested to contact me, so that we can work together. -- I decry the current tendency to seek patents on algorithms. There are better ways to earn a living than to prevent other people from making use of one's contributions to computer science. -- Donald Knuth Saludos /\/\ /\ `/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: New Cinnamon Maintainer, looking for help
On 26.04.2014 16:14, Maximiliano Curia wrote: Hi, Cinnamon is a desktop environment based on GNOME, but with a different shell and some other replaced parts (screensaver, file manager, system settings, etc). It was created by Linux Mint, but it's independent of the distribution. The cinnamon package and dependencies included in Debian are currently uninstallable, and have been unmantained for a year. I have prepared new packages, adding their sources to the collab-maint alioth project. There's still quite a lot of work to do in order to bring these packages into Debian shape, so I encourage anyone who's interested to contact me, so that we can work together. Hi Maximiliano, I'm not Cinnamon user, but I have contact by the another users with that environment. I can help you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/535bca66.1090...@linuxmint.pl
