Re: OpenPKG vs. APT
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Will Lowe wrote: Is there any deb available for it? Not currently. If there's a lot of demand I'll package it, but it seemed silly to bloat the Packages file further by making a .deb containing 139 lines of perl. Why not fileing a wishlist bug against an apropriate package which could include this nice tool. It has to be packaged in any way to get public. A not apt-get - installable aptwatcher makes no sense! Kind regards Andreas.
Re: OpenPKG vs. APT
[Joerg Wendland] If you run stable, use aptwatcher (http://people.debian.org/~lowe/aptwatcher) and each box will mail you when you need to do something to it. Nice tool, seems to be going into some crontabs :-) Is there any deb available for it?
Re: OpenPKG vs. APT
Is there any deb available for it? Not currently. If there's a lot of demand I'll package it, but it seemed silly to bloat the Packages file further by making a .deb containing 139 lines of perl. -- thanks, Will
Re: OpenPKG vs. APT
On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 11:37:41AM -0800, Will Lowe wrote: Is there any deb available for it? Not currently. If there's a lot of demand I'll package it, but it seemed silly to bloat the Packages file further by making a .deb containing 139 lines of perl. Maybe it should be just added to apt package as an example? Marcin -- Marcin Owsiany [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://marcin.owsiany.pl/ GnuPG: 1024D/60F41216 FE67 DA2D 0ACA FC5E 3F75 D6F6 3A0D 8AA0 60F4 1216
Re: OpenPKG vs. APT
also sprach Will Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.13.2037 +0100]: Is there any deb available for it? Not currently. If there's a lot of demand I'll package it, but it seemed silly to bloat the Packages file further by making a .deb containing 139 lines of perl. this runs from my cron btw, incidentally called aptwatcher too. cat aptwatcher 12 | wc -l 21 apt-get update /dev/null tmpfile=`mktemp /tmp/aptwatcher.XX` trap rm -f $tmpfile exit echo n | apt-get -u dist-upgrade | \ grep ^\(The following\| \|[0-9]* packages upgraded\) $tmpfile [ ! -s $tmpfile ] exit 0 grep -q ^0 packages upgraded $tmpfile exit 0 cat EOF | /usr/sbin/sendmail root Subject: `hostname`: apt upgrades available hi, the following packages should be updated on $HOST: `cat $tmpfile` EOF 20 lines -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; [EMAIL PROTECTED] no keyboard present. press f1 to continue. zen engineering. pgpKnXt1uWmkC.pgp Description: PGP signature
OpenPKG vs. APT
Hi fellows, today I heard about OpenPGK[1] and read its feature list. Unfortunately OpenPKG describes itself as ...the world of cross-platform RPM-based Unix software packaging. It is RPM based but cross-platform. It came to my mind that having a distributed APT would be a great help to administrators managing big networks of Debian/GNU Linux machines (just as I do). OpenPKG would solve this problem but as said is RPM based. Features I would like to have in APT or a wrapper around it: - Package installation, upgrade, deinstallation over the net[2] - dpkg-database/apt-cache queries over the net[3] - central debconf database to allow central administration like cfengine does.[4] Is this functionality that would be interesting for more people? Is anything like that in planning or even development? I would be willing to implement something like that. Regards, Joerg Notes: [1] http://www.openpgk.org [2] think of 'apt-get --host webserver.my.org install apache' or security updates to be done on numerous machines [3] imagine 'apt-cache show apache' with output: Package: apache Priority: optional Section: web Hosts: webserver.my.org (1.3.22-5), intranet.my.org (1.3.19-3) [4] Think of an SSHd installed suid which you want to reconf to not to be suid anymore. The ssh package provides a debconf interface for that. Having over 50 machines running the sshd you simply could 'dpkg-reconfigure --all-hosts ssh' and change the config for every machine running ssh. -- Joerg joergland Wendland GPG: 51CF8417 FP: 79C0 7671 AFC7 315E 657A F318 57A3 7FBD 51CF 8417 pgp0Et6TDMYfE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OpenPKG vs. APT
- Package installation, upgrade, deinstallation over the net[2] [2] think of 'apt-get --host webserver.my.org install apache' or security updates to be done on numerous machines Err, the security implications of such a scheme are kinda imposing. Simpler to use an existing tool like ssh to do the authentication. I have a network of ~80 Debian boxen, and I do something rougly like this: for host in `cat hostlist`; do ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] apt-get update apt-get upgrade done If you run stable, use aptwatcher (http://people.debian.org/~lowe/aptwatcher) and each box will mail you when you need to do something to it. -- thanks, Will
Re: OpenPKG vs. APT
Will Lowe, on 2002-01-11, 16:12, you wrote:
Err, the security implications of such a scheme are kinda
imposing.
Of course you are right.
Simpler to use an existing tool like ssh to do the
authentication. I have a network of ~80 Debian boxen, and I do
something rougly like this:
for host in `cat hostlist`; do
ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] apt-get update apt-get upgrade
done
I meant such as I wrote 'or wrapper'. The problem is that every machine
maintains its very own dpkg/{status,available} etc. I thought of having
something central.
If you run stable, use aptwatcher
(http://people.debian.org/~lowe/aptwatcher) and each box will mail you
when you need to do something to it.
Nice tool, seems to be going into some crontabs :-)
Joerg
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