Re: Out of Date Package and Maintainer Absence
On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 10:27:22PM -0700, Vincent W. Chen wrote: I am willing to co-maintain the package with Manoj, or even maintain it by myself if he's no longer interested in dealing with it. But since there has been no reply from him I now turn to the list: any suggestion on what I should do now, or what I should have done? You should start preparing a newer version of the package, making as few changes to the packaging decisions made by Manoj (e.g. stick with pre-dh debhelper if that's what he's using; don't introduce cdbs or other packaging helper tools if they aren't already in use; stick to the VCS he's using, etc.) and putting your WIP somewhere public, both as a repo that can be cloned and attach a patch to the bug. Tag the bug 'patch', too. That way, we are talking in concrete, not abstract terms. Debian is a 'do-ocracy'. As for getting it into wheezy: I don't think odds are particularly high, but the release team will need to see a newer version of the package in order to decide whether to grant a freeze exception or not. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121004065306.GA25088@debian
Re: Out of Date Package and Maintainer Absence
Hi, On 04.10.2012 08:53, Jon Dowland wrote: As for getting it into wheezy: I don't think odds are particularly high, but the release team will need to see a newer version of the package in order to decide whether to grant a freeze exception or not. It is very unlikely they would unblock a package with major changes such as a new upstream version. Not to say Vincent should not work on it, but it won't be in time for Wheezy. -- with kind regards, Arno Töll IRC: daemonkeeper on Freenode/OFTC GnuPG Key-ID: 0x9D80F36D signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Out of Date Package and Maintainer Absence
On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 09:54:05AM +0200, Arno Töll wrote: It is very unlikely they would unblock a package with major changes such as a new upstream version. Not to say Vincent should not work on it, but it won't be in time for Wheezy. Yes, agreed. There is the small-print reason that the existing version is long unsupported by upstream, but it would be the release team's call, and I agree that it is vanishingly unlikely. The work is worthwhile either way. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121004095749.GA28116@debian
Re: Out of Date Package and Maintainer Absence
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Jon Dowland j...@debian.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 10:27:22PM -0700, Vincent W. Chen wrote: I am willing to co-maintain the package with Manoj, or even maintain it by myself if he's no longer interested in dealing with it. But since there has been no reply from him I now turn to the list: any suggestion on what I should do now, or what I should have done? You should start preparing a newer version of the package, making as few changes to the packaging decisions made by Manoj (e.g. stick with pre-dh debhelper if that's what he's using; don't introduce cdbs or other packaging helper tools if they aren't already in use; stick to the VCS he's using, etc.) and putting your WIP somewhere public, both as a repo that can be cloned and attach a patch to the bug. Tag the bug 'patch', too. That way, we are talking in concrete, not abstract terms. Debian is a 'do-ocracy'. I had already prepared a package at https://mentors.debian.net/package/fvwm, though there were more changes than what you described. Manoj was using hand crafted makefiles, while I changed it to dh. I'll try to cut down the number of changes and remember to tag the bug 'patch'. Thanks for the info. Regards, Vincent Chen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cafuqiezx1owp-oauthqoftob_7t4eyqv2p5t5ummqyutdei...@mail.gmail.com
Out of Date Package and Maintainer Absence
Hi, My questions involve bug #684395 and the FVWM package. Though the bug is only severity: wishlist, I do hope to see newer version make it to Wheezy, seeing as how the last NMU was on 2012 May 5 and the last update by maintainer Manoj was on 2010 Jun 8. As indicated in the bug report, the current version in Debian is outdated and no longer maintained by upstream. I have contacted Manoj and his reply was included in the bug report, but no update has been received from him since, which was over a month ago. I am willing to co-maintain the package with Manoj, or even maintain it by myself if he's no longer interested in dealing with it. But since there has been no reply from him I now turn to the list: any suggestion on what I should do now, or what I should have done? As I stated before, I am not trying to hijack his package. As a user of FVWM I just want to see it updated and some bugs closed. I'm just willing to pick up where he left off and learn the ropes if Manoj don't want to take care of the package anymore. Regards, Vincent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFuqiEZULjUB3tjeDGMmQD=ab96vukoj24jyvn6cbybdetq...@mail.gmail.com
