Re: Packages still in Potato
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 09:39:12PM +0200, Peter Makholm wrote: If a package works, has no new upstream versions and doesn't get outdated policywise there is no need for a new version of the package just because we're making a new release. The making a release may not be the best reason. But a regular interval certainly is. One of my packages hasn't been updated since potato. It turns out to no longer compile from source. however, that kind of bug is typically only found when a buildd tries to build a new version. It's not enough for the packages to be able to run, they have to be buildable as well. And because that depends on the state of the rest of the system, we will have to test for it once in a while. Bit rot really does exist. -- Bart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Packages still in Potato
IMO each package should at least once per release upload a status report. Also there was ample time for the transition of each package to the pool. These are the reason behind the mailing to each maintainer of packages still in Potato. While most of the answers I got were positive, there were some few I simply don't want to get a second time. Therefore I've lost interest into this matter. I'll append the list of maintainers/packages I haven't gotten any answers so others may finish what I started. Just keep in mind there might be wrong or missing entries since I have no desire to do any checks. For me this matter is now solved, with my script I'll simply apply option --transform=pool. O. Wyss --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] tkxanim [EMAIL PROTECTED] rtlinux-doc [EMAIL PROTECTED] theme-converters [EMAIL PROTECTED] termcap-compat [EMAIL PROTECTED] mdate [EMAIL PROTECTED] festvox-don festvox-rablpc16k festvox-rablpc8k festival-doc festlex-cmu festlex-poslex festvox-kallpc16k festvox-kallpc8k festvox-kdlpc16k [EMAIL PROTECTED] ibm-jdk1.1-installer [EMAIL PROTECTED] hbf-cns40-1 hbf-cns40-2 hbf-cns40-3 hbf-cns40-4 hbf-cns40-5 hbf-cns40-6 hbf-cns40-7 hbf-cns40-b5 xcin2.3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] libgd-gif-tools libgd-gif1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] perlmenu [EMAIL PROTECTED] fda hpscanpbm iroffer makepasswd [EMAIL PROTECTED] gilt [EMAIL PROTECTED] adbbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] gwm gwm-doc [EMAIL PROTECTED] enscript xdigger [EMAIL PROTECTED] flexml [EMAIL PROTECTED] gnuhtml2latex [EMAIL PROTECTED] workbone [EMAIL PROTECTED] floppybackup [EMAIL PROTECTED] rcs ??? [EMAIL PROTECTED] gnosamba linleech [EMAIL PROTECTED] lclint-doc [EMAIL PROTECTED] scansort [EMAIL PROTECTED] nsmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ttysnoop [EMAIL PROTECTED] debian-test [EMAIL PROTECTED] fortunes-it [EMAIL PROTECTED] knl [EMAIL PROTECTED] cern-httpd jargon [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmake [EMAIL PROTECTED] cvs-pcl elib [EMAIL PROTECTED] sendmail-wide [EMAIL PROTECTED] chos nstreams [EMAIL PROTECTED] cedicttools ttfprint lpkg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Packages still in Potato
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Otto Wyss) writes: IMO each package should at least once per release upload a status report. Also there was ample time for the transition of each package to Disagreed. We should make package uploads just to make uploads. If a package works, has no new upstream versions and doesn't get outdated policywise there is no need for a new version of the package just because we're making a new release. (Well it might be impossible for a package in potato not being policywise outdated) -- Emacs er det eneste moderne styresystem der ikke er multitrådet. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Packages still in Potato
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 09:39:12PM +0200, Peter Makholm wrote: If a package works, has no new upstream versions and doesn't get outdated policywise there is no need for a new version of the package just because we're making a new release. And what makes you think there has been no new upstream versions for all those packages? I know that mdate has had substaintially newer versions out for almost two years now. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's not a habit; it's cool; I feel alive. If you don't have it you're on the other side. - K's Choice (probably referring to the Internet) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Packages still in Potato
David Starner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And what makes you think there has been no new upstream versions for all those packages? Nothing. I commented on you general opinion. -- Emacs er det eneste moderne styresystem der ikke er multitrådet. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Packages still in Potato
David Starner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 09:39:12PM +0200, Peter Makholm wrote: If a package works, has no new upstream versions and doesn't get outdated policywise there is no need for a new version of the package just because we're making a new release. And what makes you think there has been no new upstream versions for all those packages? I know that mdate has had substaintially newer versions out for almost two years now. RCS hasn't had a new upstream version in 7 years. -- Carlos Laviola [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux http://www.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Packages still in Potato
On Wed 10 Apr 2002, Bob Hilliard wrote: Otto Wyss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Packages: dict-easton, dict-gazetteer, dict-hitchcock The listed packages are still located in the Potato directory, possibly because there wasn't any update necessary during the full Woody development phase, but maybe also because there is no interest in these packages. So please check your packages and do an upload, so they get into the pool, or orphan them so others can take over or they get removed. Please inform me what you are doing or not doing. This way I may ask others to do NMU's just in case. These packages have not needed any updates. The last update was solely to add the /usr/share/doc directory. I had not contemplated another upload until post-woody, when the /usr/doc symlink could be removed. In previous releases (before the pool concept was adopted), the unstable directory contained symlinks to the unstable directory, and the last step before release was converting any remaining symlinks to hard links. Is it really necessary to make a new upload, rather than copying or linking these packages to the pool? I will make a new upload before the woody release if it is necessary to do so. Please let me know it this is required. I got a similar message from him. He hadn't done his research all that well either, as one of my packages _had_ been uploaded since potato, but for some reason isn't built on arm and hence isn't migrating to woody. Besides, I'm fairly confident that packages won't silently disappear from woody just because they're not currently in /pool/, the situation isn't that different from earlier releases where the files were still in the previous release's hierarchy, and were moved to the new release hierarchy when that was released (or was it when it was frozen). I'de hate to see a flurry of useless uploads just because of an (incorrect) perceived threat to the packages' existence. Paul Slootman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Packages still in Potato
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 03:57:26PM -0400, Bob Hilliard wrote: These packages have not needed any updates. [...] Is it really necessary to make a new upload, rather than copying or linking these packages to the pool? I will make a new upload before the woody release if it is necessary to do so. Please let me know it this is required. It's not necessary. Otto's mails seem to be useful only as a way to find invalid Maintainer: fields, because the good maintainers won't care and could only get misled into thinking they need to upload, and the bad ones will ignore the mail anyway. -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Packages still in Potato
Otto Wyss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Packages: dict-easton, dict-gazetteer, dict-hitchcock The listed packages are still located in the Potato directory, possibly because there wasn't any update necessary during the full Woody development phase, but maybe also because there is no interest in these packages. So please check your packages and do an upload, so they get into the pool, or orphan them so others can take over or they get removed. Please inform me what you are doing or not doing. This way I may ask others to do NMU's just in case. These packages have not needed any updates. The last update was solely to add the /usr/share/doc directory. I had not contemplated another upload until post-woody, when the /usr/doc symlink could be removed. In previous releases (before the pool concept was adopted), the unstable directory contained symlinks to the unstable directory, and the last step before release was converting any remaining symlinks to hard links. Is it really necessary to make a new upload, rather than copying or linking these packages to the pool? I will make a new upload before the woody release if it is necessary to do so. Please let me know it this is required. Bob -- _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] |_) (_) |_) 1294 S.W. Seagull Way [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palm City, FL USA GPG Key ID: 390D6559 PGP Key ID: A8E40EB9 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
