Re: Policy process (was: [Pkg-sysvinit-devel] Re: Moving /var/run to a tmpfs?)

2006-09-18 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:43:18AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
 Copying the debian-policy list, since this conversation is basically about
 that.
 
 Kurt Roeckx [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I don't think policy changes need to be seconded.  We have a policy team
  that should decide on what comes in policy and what not.  Although, it
  more looks like it's just 1 person doing all the work.
 
  I sometimes feel that they go to slow which changing things, and I'm not
  really sure it's a good or bad thing.
 
  Some of those currently open bugs against the policy package, like your
  ~ in version numbers, really shouldn't be a problem to get into the
  policy.  I don't think anybody has a problem with it.  I think it's just
  that no new version of the policy has been made yet.
 
 Well, policy-process is still shipped with the debian-policy package, and
 my experience in the past is that when I follow that process, the changes
 go into Policy fairly quickly.  Certainly seconding would show that
 someone reviewed the wording of my proposed ~ patch and has confirmed that
 it sounds like an accurate and implementable description of their
 behavior.
 
 Maybe Manoj could weigh in on how he sees the current process?

That document says things like:
 The group that decides on policy should be the group of
 developers on the debian-policy mailing list, which is how it
 was always done; so the group of policy maintainers have no
 real power over policy.

And that is not the impression I get from it.

Also, I believe this has changed since they are now delegates of the
DPL:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/07/msg2.html

But it's unclear to me what this exactly means.


Kurt


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Policy process (was: [Pkg-sysvinit-devel] Re: Moving /var/run to a tmpfs?)

2006-09-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Copying the debian-policy list, since this conversation is basically about
that.

Kurt Roeckx [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I don't think policy changes need to be seconded.  We have a policy team
 that should decide on what comes in policy and what not.  Although, it
 more looks like it's just 1 person doing all the work.

 I sometimes feel that they go to slow which changing things, and I'm not
 really sure it's a good or bad thing.

 Some of those currently open bugs against the policy package, like your
 ~ in version numbers, really shouldn't be a problem to get into the
 policy.  I don't think anybody has a problem with it.  I think it's just
 that no new version of the policy has been made yet.

Well, policy-process is still shipped with the debian-policy package, and
my experience in the past is that when I follow that process, the changes
go into Policy fairly quickly.  Certainly seconding would show that
someone reviewed the wording of my proposed ~ patch and has confirmed that
it sounds like an accurate and implementable description of their
behavior.

Maybe Manoj could weigh in on how he sees the current process?

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Re: Policy process (was: [Pkg-sysvinit-devel] Re: Moving /var/run to a tmpfs?)

2006-09-17 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:43:18AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
 Kurt Roeckx [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I don't think policy changes need to be seconded.  We have a policy team
  that should decide on what comes in policy and what not.  Although, it
  more looks like it's just 1 person doing all the work.
 
  I sometimes feel that they go to slow which changing things, and I'm not
  really sure it's a good or bad thing.
 
  Some of those currently open bugs against the policy package, like your
  ~ in version numbers, really shouldn't be a problem to get into the
  policy.  I don't think anybody has a problem with it.  I think it's just
  that no new version of the policy has been made yet.
 
 Well, policy-process is still shipped with the debian-policy package, and
 my experience in the past is that when I follow that process, the changes
 go into Policy fairly quickly.  Certainly seconding would show that
 someone reviewed the wording of my proposed ~ patch and has confirmed that
 it sounds like an accurate and implementable description of their
 behavior.

Hello,
As a debian-policy denizen, I am quick to second proposal I like.
However, here this a purely the description of what dpkg do.
What matter is whether the text is faithful to the implementation,
not whether I like it or not, and i don't feel qualified to vet the
text.

However, there is at least 2 dpkg maintainers, they are very qualified
to check it, and I expected they would second the proposal.

If they did not see it, I suggest to forward it to them asking for
review and second.

Cheers,
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