Re: locale errors
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Pfaff) wrote on 17.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Meskes) wrote on 17.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No! You cannot use libc5 compiled perl with glibc locales! Wait for a libc6 version of perl and everything should be fine again. This is, of course, a problem nearly as serious as that about utmp. Not really. This is an issue only with `unstable' (as far as I can tell from the discussion), and `unstable' means exactly that--everything might not work properly. What has that to do with anything? The only difference between the utmp and the locale problem is that the utmp problem hits everyone using libc5-compiled stuff on a system with libc6, whereas the locale problem hits only those people that also live outside the USA and actually use some locale settings. Both problems are only in unstable, because both have the same reason: libc6 on-disk data structures differing from libc5 ones. MfG Kai -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: locale errors
Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No! You cannot use libc5 compiled perl with glibc locales! Wait for a libc6 version of perl and everything should be fine again. Yes, you can (at least I'm having no trouble at all whenusing glibc 2.0.4-1 and locales 2.0.4-1). _Please_ try these packages before reporting another bug on locales. I'm simply not seeing them. Helmut -- Helmut Geyer[EMAIL PROTECTED] public PGP key available : finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RE: locale errors
I'm sorry Helmut, but: gauss:meskes 124) dpkg -l libc5\* libc6\* locale\* perl\* | grep ii ii libc5 5.4.33-4 The Linux C library version 5 (run-time libr ii libc5-altdev5.4.33-4 The Linux C library version 5 (alternative d ii libc6 2.0.4-1The GNU C library version 2 (run-time files) ii libc6-dev 2.0.4-1The GNU C library version 2 (development fil ii libc6-doc 2.0.4-1The GNU C library version 2 (documentation f ii locales 2.0.4-1Locale data files and utilities. ii perl5.004-1Larry Wall's Practical Extracting and Report ii perl-curses 1.01-1 Curses interface for Perl ii perl-debug 5.004-1Allow debugging perl scripts (and perl). ii perl-suid 5.004-1Runs setuid perl scripts. ii perl-tk 400.202-2 Perl module providing the Tk graphics librar ii perlmagick 1.11-1 A perl interface to the libMagick graphics r ii perlmenu4.0-1 Menu and Template (curses-based) UI for Perl gauss:meskes 125) cat t #!/usr/bin/perl print Hello World\n; gauss:meskes 126) ./t perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LC_ALL = de_DE, LANG = (unset) are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C). Hello World I would have expected this to work (once again libc5 locale support was taken from glibc) but apparently it doesn't. Do oyu have any idea where to look? Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes, Projekt-Manager| topsystem Systemhaus GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Europark A2, Adenauerstr. 20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 52146 Wuerselen Go SF49ers! Go Rhein Fire! | Tel: (+49) 2405/4670-44 Use Debian GNU/Linux! | Fax: (+49) 2405/4670-10 -Original Message- From: Helmut Geyer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 1997 12:15 PM To:Michael Meskes; debian-devel@lists.debian.org Cc:Die Adresse des Empfängers ist unbekannt. Subject: Re: locale errors Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No! You cannot use libc5 compiled perl with glibc locales! Wait for a libc6 version of perl and everything should be fine again. Yes, you can (at least I'm having no trouble at all whenusing glibc 2.0.4-1 and locales 2.0.4-1). _Please_ try these packages before reporting another bug on locales. I'm simply not seeing them. Helmut -- Helmut Geyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] public PGP key available : finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: locale errors
Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm sorry Helmut, but: gauss:meskes 124) dpkg -l libc5\* libc6\* locale\* perl\* | grep ii ii libc5 5.4.33-4 The Linux C library version 5 (run-time libr ii libc5-altdev5.4.33-4 The Linux C library version 5 (alternative d ii libc6 2.0.4-1The GNU C library version 2 (run-time files) ii libc6-dev 2.0.4-1The GNU C library version 2 (development fil ii libc6-doc 2.0.4-1The GNU C library version 2 (documentation f ii locales 2.0.4-1Locale data files and utilities. ii perl5.004-1Larry Wall's Practical Extracting and Report ii perl-curses 1.01-1 Curses interface for Perl ii perl-debug 5.004-1Allow debugging perl scripts (and perl). ii perl-suid 5.004-1Runs setuid perl scripts. ii perl-tk 400.202-2 Perl module providing the Tk graphics librar ii perlmagick 1.11-1 A perl interface to the libMagick graphics r ii perlmenu4.0-1 Menu and Template (curses-based) UI for Perl gauss:meskes 125) cat t #!/usr/bin/perl print Hello World\n; gauss:meskes 126) ./t perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LC_ALL = de_DE, LANG = (unset) are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C). Hello World I would have expected this to work (once again libc5 locale support was taken from glibc) but apparently it doesn't. Do oyu have any idea where to look? I will look into this mnore carefully tonight. If I can reproduce the problem, I'll try to fix it. If I can't I'll tell you where you might look for the problem. Helmut -- Helmut Geyer[EMAIL PROTECTED] public PGP key available : finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: locale errors
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Re: locale errors
Damn, pinepgp is screwing up auto signatures. Sorry. === On 17 Jun 1997, Ben Pfaff wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Meskes) wrote on 17.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No! You cannot use libc5 compiled perl with glibc locales! Wait for a libc6 version of perl and everything should be fine again. This is, of course, a problem nearly as serious as that about utmp. Not really. This is an issue only with `unstable' (as far as I can tell from the discussion), and `unstable' means exactly that--everything might not work properly. That is true, but like the utmp problem, it's not going to go away by itself. If we want to be able to have a system where both libc5 and libc6 programs can coexist, we run into a problem with utmp. The 2 libraries manipulate utmp differently, so if you run both libc5 and libc6 binaries that try to manipulate utmp, it gets corrupted. Similarly, if we install libc5 locale files, libc6 programs can't use them. If we install libc6 locale files, libc5 programs can't use them. These are not trivial problems to fix, and they'll still be around in 3 months if nothing is done in the mean time. I am confident that someone will come up with an elligant solution after the 1.3 release settles down. Erv -- PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Fingerprint: A5 AB 25 7D 7A FD 4D FE BE 21 47 60 0C DC 67 9E ==-- _ / / \ ---==---(_)__ __ __/ / /\ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / / /_/\ \ \- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ /__\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] \_\/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RE: locale errors
I wonder whether it's difficult to fix that. If I recall correctly most of the locale code in libc5 is from glibc anyway. Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes, Projekt-Manager| topsystem Systemhaus GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Europark A2, Adenauerstr. 20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 52146 Wuerselen Go SF49ers! Go Rhein Fire! | Tel: (+49) 2405/4670-44 Use Debian GNU/Linux! | Fax: (+49) 2405/4670-10 -Original Message- From: Erv Walter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 1997 1:55 AM To:Ben Pfaff Cc:Die Adresse des Empfängers ist unbekannt. Subject: Re: locale errors Damn, pinepgp is screwing up auto signatures. Sorry. === On 17 Jun 1997, Ben Pfaff wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Meskes) wrote on 17.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No! You cannot use libc5 compiled perl with glibc locales! Wait for a libc6 version of perl and everything should be fine again. This is, of course, a problem nearly as serious as that about utmp. Not really. This is an issue only with `unstable' (as far as I can tell from the discussion), and `unstable' means exactly that--everything might not work properly. That is true, but like the utmp problem, it's not going to go away by itself. If we want to be able to have a system where both libc5 and libc6 programs can coexist, we run into a problem with utmp. The 2 libraries manipulate utmp differently, so if you run both libc5 and libc6 binaries that try to manipulate utmp, it gets corrupted. Similarly, if we install libc5 locale files, libc6 programs can't use them. If we install libc6 locale files, libc5 programs can't use them. These are not trivial problems to fix, and they'll still be around in 3 months if nothing is done in the mean time. I am confident that someone will come up with an elligant solution after the 1.3 release settles down. Erv -- PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Fingerprint: A5 AB 25 7D 7A FD 4D FE BE 21 47 60 0C DC 67 9E ==-- _ / / \ ---==---(_)__ __ __/ / /\ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / / /_/\ \ \- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ /__\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] \_\/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: locale errors
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Baker) wrote on 15.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I got that (with perl only) before I installed debian; it doesn't like locale settings that other programs seem to get on with OK. Try removing the LANG variable and it ought to work. Is whatever sets LANG (your .bashrc?) something you copied off another system? Removing LANG is, of course, not an option, except maybe for people from English-speaking countries. But setting LANG to _correct_ value (e.g. en or en_US) might help. -- Tomislav Vujec [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To understand recursion, one must first understand recursion... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RE: locale errors
No! You cannot use libc5 compiled perl with glibc locales! Wait for a libc6 version of perl and everything should be fine again. Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes, Projekt-Manager| topsystem Systemhaus GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Europark A2, Adenauerstr. 20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 52146 Wuerselen Go SF49ers! Go Rhein Fire! | Tel: (+49) 2405/4670-44 Use Debian GNU/Linux! | Fax: (+49) 2405/4670-10 -Original Message- From: Tomislav Vujec [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 1997 1:01 PM To:debian-devel@lists.debian.org Cc:Die Adresse des Empfängers ist unbekannt. Subject: Re: locale errors [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Baker) wrote on 15.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I got that (with perl only) before I installed debian; it doesn't like locale settings that other programs seem to get on with OK. Try removing the LANG variable and it ought to work. Is whatever sets LANG (your .bashrc?) something you copied off another system? Removing LANG is, of course, not an option, except maybe for people from English-speaking countries. But setting LANG to _correct_ value (e.g. en or en_US) might help. -- Tomislav Vujec [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To understand recursion, one must first understand recursion... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: locale errors
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tomislav Vujec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But setting LANG to _correct_ value (e.g. en or en_US) might help. perl was giving me errors when I had it set to en_GB (before I installed debian).
Re: locale errors
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Meskes) wrote on 17.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No! You cannot use libc5 compiled perl with glibc locales! Wait for a libc6 version of perl and everything should be fine again. This is, of course, a problem nearly as serious as that about utmp. MfG Kai -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: locale errors
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tomislav Vujec) wrote on 17.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Baker) wrote on 15.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I got that (with perl only) before I installed debian; it doesn't like locale settings that other programs seem to get on with OK. Try removing the LANG variable and it ought to work. Is whatever sets LANG (your .bashrc?) something you copied off another system? Removing LANG is, of course, not an option, except maybe for people from English-speaking countries. But setting LANG to _correct_ value (e.g. en or en_US) might help. Seeing as my LANG _is_ set to the correct value, de_DE (after all, it worked before installing libc6), no, it won't. MfG Kai -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: locale errors
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Meskes) wrote on 17.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No! You cannot use libc5 compiled perl with glibc locales! Wait for a libc6 version of perl and everything should be fine again. This is, of course, a problem nearly as serious as that about utmp. Not really. This is an issue only with `unstable' (as far as I can tell from the discussion), and `unstable' means exactly that--everything might not work properly. -- Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.msu.edu/user/pfaffben PGP key: http://www.msu.edu/user/pfaffben/pgp.html or a keyserver near you Linux: choice of a GNU generation -- Debian GNU/Linux: the only free Linux -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: locale errors
On Jun 15, Mark Baker wrote In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erv Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = us are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C). I got that (with perl only) before I installed debian; it doesn't like locale settings that other programs seem to get on with OK. Try removing the LANG variable and it ought to work. Is whatever sets LANG (your .bashrc?) something you copied off another system? Just set PERL_BADLANG variable in /etc/lilo.conf and /etc/profile and the messages will disappear. -- Riardas epas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: locale errors
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Baker) wrote on 15.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = us are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C). I got that (with perl only) before I installed debian; it doesn't like locale settings that other programs seem to get on with OK. Try removing the LANG variable and it ought to work. Is whatever sets LANG (your .bashrc?) something you copied off another system? Removing LANG is, of course, not an option, except maybe for people from English-speaking countries. MfG Kai -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: locale errors
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erv Walter) wrote on 13.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The locale errors are getting extremely annoying. What is the most correct way to solve the problems. unsetting LANG solves the problem, but I can't find where it is getting set in the first place. That's not the most elegant solution anyway. My locale version is 2.0.4-1 The error (from perl) is: perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = us are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C). Note: There are similar error from other programs (emacs, etc). This becomes particularly annoying when installing new packages (which calls perl many times in a row). Please tell me how to solve this problem Do you have libc6 and friends installed? That seems to be what causes this for me. MfG Kai -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: locale errors
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 15 Jun 1997, Kai Henningsen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erv Walter) wrote on 13.06.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please tell me how to solve this problem Do you have libc6 and friends installed? That seems to be what causes this for me. MfG Kai Yes i do, but uninstalling them is not a solution since clearly that is where Debian is heading. I need a different solution. Can I uninstall locale? I dont use any special services of it (that I know of). Erv - -- PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Fingerprint: A5 AB 25 7D 7A FD 4D FE BE 21 47 60 0C DC 67 9E ==-- _ / / \ ---==---(_)__ __ __/ / /\ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / / /_/\ \ \- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ /__\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] \_\/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM6QhXrkbWT/F2aV1AQFU1AQAtbMMV1d/ZZaS44jUKZB8Bjj4ATe2miqz WIxYM4YoDQYqNGMjq0Yj2qVnZ541PWlnSo9gWbcRNFxSRmD6JqpZT1BY9CdXWSK7 N9/q9qzjfWwK89sodEPaQbws4552X8OHQIs6h2UVaX337Ju3vG77lqeFg3J2/1Cb TpW9doy0yVg= =uLuk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: locale errors
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erv Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = us are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C). I got that (with perl only) before I installed debian; it doesn't like locale settings that other programs seem to get on with OK. Try removing the LANG variable and it ought to work. Is whatever sets LANG (your .bashrc?) something you copied off another system?
Re: locale errors]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Mark Baker wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erv Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = us are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C). I got that (with perl only) before I installed debian; it doesn't like locale settings that other programs seem to get on with OK. Try removing the LANG variable and it ought to work. Is whatever sets LANG (your .bashrc?) something you copied off another system? . Well, I finally found where LANG was being set. It is set in .sd.sh (which is the setup script for StarOffice). I removed it and problems have disappeared (I dont know if I screwed up StarOffice of course :) Erv - -- PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Fingerprint: A5 AB 25 7D 7A FD 4D FE BE 21 47 60 0C DC 67 9E ==-- _ / / \ ---==---(_)__ __ __/ / /\ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / / /_/\ \ \- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ /__\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] \_\/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM6Rhl7kbWT/F2aV1AQFiewP/QjYSPSCF4z5pF6HTvpbQhFEkVx3wCW0v m1OscxOssPNk5mQ1FjxwICTEGyejTbm0GNSxTFTL+LryMtFI1SU+JynlLxlBEeVn UFCOOdYB1nuVF/tktH4F9UHVlp6y7M0pRTmxdx6rKJfYQZ++WlWS/TG8vsHpXtJI Uz+48s0n15I= =x/Kl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
