Re: RFA: jabberd2 -- Jabber instant messenger server
sorry, mistyped the 'un' ;) On 21-12-2012 07:07, Michael Tokarev wrote: On 21.12.2012 02:29, Willem van den Akker wrote: Thanks for getting new [udns] version into stable. FWIW, it is not stable, it is unstable. This version will not hit stable before wheezy is released. /mjt
Re: RFA: jabberd2 -- Jabber instant messenger server
Thanks for getting new version into stable. gr, Willem On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 16:53 +0400, Michael Tokarev wrote: 18.12.2012 17:51, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 18 dec 12, 09:20:25, Willem van den Akker wrote: Hi, I am willing to maintain the packages jabberd2 and udns. I have already uploaded new versions of both packages to mentors.debian.org. http://mentors.debian.net/package/udns http://mentors.debian.net/package/jabberd2 Regarding udns, the package doesn't appear to be orphaned (no O: bug against wnpp). In this case uploading a new package might be considered a hijack. If you want to help you should definitely contact the Maintainer first. The package hasn't been orphaned, but I as the only upstream author asked for it to not enter.. lenny (!) because I thought I implement some different API for it. But in recent years I haven't done a thing about it (except of accepting some patches which implements support for additional RR types, and fixing bugs in these patches). #493599 - while most technical points are gone now, one point raised there is valid: maybe there's no need to have yet another resolver? I dunno, I wrote it for a reason but I don't have time to support it, and while it does not have lots of bugs, it is missing some features, in particular it is DNSSEC support. Besides, I'm now a debian developer, and it'd be quite a bit silly to ask another person to package my own software for debian... ;) /mjt
Re: RFA: jabberd2 -- Jabber instant messenger server
On 21.12.2012 02:29, Willem van den Akker wrote: Thanks for getting new [udns] version into stable. FWIW, it is not stable, it is unstable. This version will not hit stable before wheezy is released. /mjt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50d40ab3.7070...@msgid.tls.msk.ru
Re: RFA: jabberd2 -- Jabber instant messenger server
18.12.2012 17:51, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 18 dec 12, 09:20:25, Willem van den Akker wrote: Hi, I am willing to maintain the packages jabberd2 and udns. I have already uploaded new versions of both packages to mentors.debian.org. http://mentors.debian.net/package/udns http://mentors.debian.net/package/jabberd2 Regarding udns, the package doesn't appear to be orphaned (no O: bug against wnpp). In this case uploading a new package might be considered a hijack. If you want to help you should definitely contact the Maintainer first. The package hasn't been orphaned, but I as the only upstream author asked for it to not enter.. lenny (!) because I thought I implement some different API for it. But in recent years I haven't done a thing about it (except of accepting some patches which implements support for additional RR types, and fixing bugs in these patches). #493599 - while most technical points are gone now, one point raised there is valid: maybe there's no need to have yet another resolver? I dunno, I wrote it for a reason but I don't have time to support it, and while it does not have lots of bugs, it is missing some features, in particular it is DNSSEC support. Besides, I'm now a debian developer, and it'd be quite a bit silly to ask another person to package my own software for debian... ;) /mjt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50d1b8b2.2060...@msgid.tls.msk.ru
Re: RFA: jabberd2 -- Jabber instant messenger server
Hi, On 19.12.2012 13:53, Michael Tokarev wrote: Besides, I'm now a debian developer, and it'd be quite a bit silly to ask another person to package my own software for debian... ;) while this is definitely a matter of personal preferences and you are of course all allowed to do so, let me tell you that there is an opposing position to yours as well. Some people (hi Jakub!) do not package their own upstream software on purpose for Debian because they believe that biases their work on either side. Clearly there are situations where packaging and distribution related tasks contradict with upstream's priorities and point of views. The Debian principle of backporting important fixes instead of upgrading for example is one of these things where upstream developers tend to say WTH? Why don't you just use my latest version. -- with kind regards, Arno Töll IRC: daemonkeeper on Freenode/OFTC GnuPG Key-ID: 0x9D80F36D signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: RFA: jabberd2 -- Jabber instant messenger server
On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 16:53 +0400, Michael Tokarev wrote: 18.12.2012 17:51, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 18 dec 12, 09:20:25, Willem van den Akker wrote: Hi, I am willing to maintain the packages jabberd2 and udns. I have already uploaded new versions of both packages to mentors.debian.org. http://mentors.debian.net/package/udns http://mentors.debian.net/package/jabberd2 Regarding udns, the package doesn't appear to be orphaned (no O: bug against wnpp). In this case uploading a new package might be considered a hijack. If you want to help you should definitely contact the Maintainer first. The package hasn't been orphaned, but I as the only upstream author asked for it to not enter.. lenny (!) because I thought I implement some different API for it. But in recent years I haven't done a thing about it (except of accepting some patches which implements support for additional RR types, and fixing bugs in these patches). #493599 - while most technical points are gone now, one point raised there is valid: maybe there's no need to have yet another resolver? I dunno, I wrote it for a reason but I don't have time to support it, and while it does not have lots of bugs, it is missing some features, in particular it is DNSSEC support. Besides, I'm now a debian developer, and it'd be quite a bit silly to ask another person to package my own software for debian... ;) /mjt Hi, Yes I would be silly to ask an other person. But I just gave you a little help. Jabberd2 is orphaned. I would like to adopt it. However it depends on udns and thats why I created a package. I could ask you first, however DD's are often very busy and I could take a little work out of their hands. #493599. Jabberd2 only depends on the library. Also Jabberd2 wont use another resolver in a short time [1]. So we are stuck with udns. I personally do not find ejabberd an alternatieve because it needs tons of elang files. Greettngs, Willem [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/jabberd2/+bug/496824)
RFA: jabberd2 -- Jabber instant messenger server
Hi, I am willing to maintain the packages jabberd2 and udns. I have already uploaded new versions of both packages to mentors.debian.org. http://mentors.debian.net/package/udns http://mentors.debian.net/package/jabberd2 Greetings, Willem vdAkker
Re: RFA: jabberd2 -- Jabber instant messenger server
On Ma, 18 dec 12, 09:20:25, Willem van den Akker wrote: Hi, I am willing to maintain the packages jabberd2 and udns. I have already uploaded new versions of both packages to mentors.debian.org. http://mentors.debian.net/package/udns http://mentors.debian.net/package/jabberd2 If your intent was to contact the current Maintainer you should CC them explicitly. RFA bugs are filled against wnpp and there is no way to tell if the Maintainer is subscribed to the bug. If your intent was to look for sponsors there is a special procedure for that, but you should still CC the original Maintainer, as they might want to sponsor you. In the particular case of jabberd2 you should most definitely contact the Maintainer first, because: - it is a Team (they will probably welcome your help) - they are not the original Maintainer who filed the RFA (they may have forgotten to close the bug) Regarding udns, the package doesn't appear to be orphaned (no O: bug against wnpp). In this case uploading a new package might be considered a hijack. If you want to help you should definitely contact the Maintainer first. Kind regards, Andrei P.S. This is probably off-topic for debian-devel, you might want to follow-up on debian-qa P.P.S. I am not a Debian Developer -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#589304: RFA: jabberd2 -- Jabber instant messenger server
Package: wnpp Severity: normal X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Hi, I no longer have the time and motivation needed to maintain jabberd2 and jabber-muc packages as I'm using now ejabberd which has the features I need. I would like the XMPP team or someone else adopt these packages or I'm afraid that I will request the removal from the archive. Main problem with jabberd2 is that depends on libudns0 which won't move to testing (see #493599), probably some patches could be merged from cwave[0] to solve these issues. [0] http://code.google.com/p/cwave/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
