Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes: ]] Ben Finney | The VCS browser link for ‘python-coverage’ used to work before the | changes this year. Now it leads to a 404 response. Fixed. Confirmed fixed, thank you. -- \ “Roll dice!” “Why?” “Shut up! I don't need your fucking | `\ *input*, I need you to roll dice!” —Luke Crane, demonstrating | _o__) his refined approach to play testing, 2009 | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ty9hdgpi@benfinney.id.au
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
I'd like to see hgweb repo browser any time soon, too. It's very annoying that it doesn't work any more. -- WBR, Andrew On 5/28/11, Darren Salt li...@youmustbejoking.demon.co.uk wrote: I demand that Bernd Zeimetz may or may not have written... [snip] Please provide a proper gitweb instance or at least a proxy at that url to the anonscm gitweb instanace. I'm still seeing directory listings instead of the expected repository pages for /hg/xine-lib/*... [snip] -- | Darren Salt | linux or ds at | nr. Ashington, | _ ASCII ribbon | using Debian | youmustbejoking | Northumberland | ( ) campaign against | GNU/Linux| ,demon,co,uk|| X HTML e-mail / \ www.asciiribbon.org Nothing endures but change. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51dfe230e8%li...@youmustbejoking.demon.co.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAMb-mAxBc29s3h=rpxc69b_thpctfkt2_-iu+a95tmsbx5h...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
O. Andrew bugzi...@tut.by writes: I'd like to see hgweb repo browser any time soon, too. It's very annoying that it doesn't work any more. If you don't make the alioth admins guess which URLs work or not, things may actually be fixed. :) -- Stig Sandbeck Mathisen s...@debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/7xfwl1leo4@fsck.linpro.no
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
* Stig Sandbeck Mathisen s...@debian.org, 2011-08-16, 14:32: I'd like to see hgweb repo browser any time soon, too. It's very annoying that it doesn't work any more. If you don't make the alioth admins guess which URLs work or not, things may actually be fixed. :) There's nothing to guess here. None of http://hg.debian.org/ URLs work, because, well, there is no hgweb running on alioth. -- Jakub Wilk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110816130303.ga3...@jwilk.net
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes: ]] Sven Hoexter | On the other hand there are all these packages in stable with broken | Vcs fields now. Still not nice but assuming that most contributions | will be based on what's in unstable that might be bearable. What VCS fields are broken? The VCS browser link for ‘python-coverage’ used to work before the changes this year. Now it leads to a 404 response. URL:http://bzr.debian.org/loggerhead/collab-maint/python-coverage/python-coverage.debian/ -- \ “There's no excuse to be bored. Sad, yes. Angry, yes. | `\Depressed, yes. Crazy, yes. But there's no excuse for boredom, | _o__) ever.” —Viggo Mortensen | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87y5yuc7l7@benfinney.id.au
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
]] Ben Finney | The VCS browser link for ‘python-coverage’ used to work before the | changes this year. Now it leads to a 404 response. | | URL:http://bzr.debian.org/loggerhead/collab-maint/python-coverage/python-coverage.debian/ Fixed. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87hb5hlx03@qurzaw.varnish-software.com
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes: ]] Ben Finney | No change on my side; still 404 when I visit the VCS repository link. Clear your browser cache, then: I had, but still got the same wrong URL. But: curl -i http://bzr.debian.org/collab-maint/comixcursors/comixcursors.debian/ HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently [...] Location: http://anonscm.debian.org/bzr/collab-maint/comixcursors/comixcursors.debian/ I can repeat this result, so the server is doing the right thing. Thanks, and sorry to everyone else for the noise. -- \ “[F]reedom of speech does not entail freedom to have your ideas | `\accepted by governments and incorporated into law and policy.” | _o__) —Russell Blackford, 2010-03-06 | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87r573y15f@benfinney.id.au
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no wrote: [various URLs have been fixed] http://pkg-java.alioth.debian.org/ has a link to http://git.debian.org/?s=pkg-java . This doesn't give a flat 404, but an index page that's rather useless. I suppose a flat redirect from http://git.debian.org to http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb isn't possible? Thanks, -ch -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktik-myjptejbvwiy17+hyh9d98s...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
]] chris h | On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no wrote: | [various URLs have been fixed] | | http://pkg-java.alioth.debian.org/ has a link to | http://git.debian.org/?s=pkg-java . Fixed now. It seems like the search is quite slow, I'm not entirely sure why that is, though. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87y61buz36@qurzaw.varnish-software.com
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes: wsvn is already on the list of stuff still to fix as listed on http://titanpad.com/yyhfwA9Pyr . Added wsvn rewrite config to the pad. -- Stig Sandbeck Mathisen s...@debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/7xboy8snrp@fsck.linpro.no
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes: ]] Ben Finney | Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes: | ]] Ben Finney | | Neither the VCS repository link nor the VCS browse link work for | | URL:http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/comixcursors.html. | These have been fixed now. | | Not for me. The VCS repository link just gives a 404 error. Indeed, fixed now. No change on my side; still 404 when I visit the VCS repository link. -- \ “Writing a book is like washing an elephant: there no good | `\place to begin or end, and it's hard to keep track of what | _o__) you've already covered.” —anonymous | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87zklrybbw@benfinney.id.au
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
]] Ben Finney | No change on my side; still 404 when I visit the VCS repository link. Clear your browser cache, then: curl -i http://bzr.debian.org/collab-maint/comixcursors/comixcursors.debian/ HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently [...] Location: http://anonscm.debian.org/bzr/collab-maint/comixcursors/comixcursors.debian/ curl -i http://anonscm.debian.org/bzr/collab-maint/comixcursors/comixcursors.debian/ HTTP/1.1 200 OK [...] Regards, -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87oc27wr5q@qurzaw.varnish-software.com
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
]] Ben Finney | Neither the VCS repository link nor the VCS browse link work for | URL:http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/comixcursors.html. These have been fixed now. | The VCS browse link doesn't work for | URL:http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/lojban-common.html. Ditto. (Now, loggerhead has fallen over or is a fragile piece of software, so that bit's still broken, but the apache config is at least correct.) -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87wrgxioqu@qurzaw.varnish-software.com
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes: ]] Ben Finney | Neither the VCS repository link nor the VCS browse link work for | URL:http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/comixcursors.html. These have been fixed now. Not for me. The VCS repository link just gives a 404 error. (Note that the correct response will look like an empty directory; the VCS's hidden directory won't show up on a default directory listing from the web server.) | The VCS browse link doesn't work for | URL:http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/lojban-common.html. Ditto. That one's fixed. I highlight these two because they're using different ways of getting at the VCS repositories; previously both of the following would work: $VCSNAME.debian.org/$VCSNAME/$PROJECTPATH/ $VCSNAME.debian.org/$PROJECTPATH/ -- \ “Oh, I realize it's a penny here and a penny there, but look at | `\ me: I've worked myself up from nothing to a state of extreme | _o__) poverty.” —Groucho Marx | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87r575ynwd@benfinney.id.au
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
Tollef, ]] Ben Finney | Neither the VCS repository link nor the VCS browse link work for | URL:http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/comixcursors.html. These have been fixed now. | The VCS browse link doesn't work for | URL:http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/lojban-common.html. Ditto. Great! Can the SVN ones be similarly fixed; e.g. http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/insighttoolkit.html Thanks, -Steve signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
]] Steve M. Robbins | Can the SVN ones be similarly fixed; e.g. | http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/insighttoolkit.html wsvn is already on the list of stuff still to fix as listed on http://titanpad.com/yyhfwA9Pyr . -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87d3ioj422@qurzaw.varnish-software.com
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
]] Ben Finney | Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes: | | ]] Ben Finney | | | Neither the VCS repository link nor the VCS browse link work for | | URL:http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/comixcursors.html. | | These have been fixed now. | | Not for me. The VCS repository link just gives a 404 error. Indeed, fixed now. | (Note that the correct response will look like an empty directory; | the VCS's hidden directory won't show up on a default directory listing | from the web server.) I know about this, and I think it's a terrible decision from the bzr team to by default point people to what looks like a completely empty directory. This is quite separate from wrong redirects, though. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/878vtcj3um@qurzaw.varnish-software.com
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 20:56:25 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 21:15 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
vasks has the copy of the repositories.
wagner NFS mounts the repositories read-only.
vasks is {git,svn,…}.debian.org (so ssh://git.d.o/ continues working),
making svn:// and similar protocols work requires TCP proxying.
[...]
The majority of published references to VCS repositories are URLs for
anonymous access. Also regular Alioth users will be more aware of the
Alioth reconfiguration than others, and will know that they need to
change the read-write/push URLs. Therefore I think it is more important
that the URLs for anonymous access continue to work.
I concur. In addition there's way less committers (with their respective
clones, chekouts, etc) than current anonymous cloned trees.
thanks,
guillem
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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 08:17:03AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 20:56:25 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: Hi, The majority of published references to VCS repositories are URLs for anonymous access. Also regular Alioth users will be more aware of the Alioth reconfiguration than others, and will know that they need to change the read-write/push URLs. Therefore I think it is more important that the URLs for anonymous access continue to work. I concur. In addition there's way less committers (with their respective clones, chekouts, etc) than current anonymous cloned trees. In general I'd agree but I think it's too late now to switch back. I for one already started to change Vcs-* fields, fix checkouts etc. where needed. Other people did so aswell. My guess is that we're in the middle of this nice epic chaos and switching back now would make it even worse. On the other hand there are all these packages in stable with broken Vcs fields now. Still not nice but assuming that most contributions will be based on what's in unstable that might be bearable. Sven -- And I don't know much, but I do know this: With a golden heart comes a rebel fist. [ Streetlight Manifesto - Here's To Life ] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110606071833.GA2388@marvin
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
Hi, Am Montag, den 06.06.2011, 09:18 +0200 schrieb Sven Hoexter: On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 08:17:03AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 20:56:25 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: The majority of published references to VCS repositories are URLs for anonymous access. Also regular Alioth users will be more aware of the Alioth reconfiguration than others, and will know that they need to change the read-write/push URLs. Therefore I think it is more important that the URLs for anonymous access continue to work. I concur. In addition there's way less committers (with their respective clones, chekouts, etc) than current anonymous cloned trees. In general I'd agree but I think it's too late now to switch back. I for one already started to change Vcs-* fields, fix checkouts etc. where needed. Other people did so aswell. My guess is that we're in the middle of this nice epic chaos and switching back now would make it even worse. On the other hand there are all these packages in stable with broken Vcs fields now. Still not nice but assuming that most contributions will be based on what's in unstable that might be bearable. if there is consensus to switch back for anonymous access, then it should be doable to also support the anonvcs-links, so that your modified checkout keeps working. I for one am going to wait for this to settle completely before even thinking about changing the VCS fields in all my and my team’s packages... Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer nome...@debian.org | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: nome...@joachim-breitner.de | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 10:02:42AM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: Hi, if there is consensus to switch back for anonymous access, then it should be doable to also support the anonvcs-links, so that your modified checkout keeps working. Sure but it would still mean that we first managed to break anonymous checkouts for a few weeks and then unbreak it by breaking the commit access. I'm not sure if that's such a great idea now after the changes started to trickle down. I've no good idea how to meassure the impact beside counting packets on vasks and guessing if it's worth to switch again. Sven -- And I don't know much, but I do know this: With a golden heart comes a rebel fist. [ Streetlight Manifesto - Here's To Life ] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110606082122.GD2388@marvin
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
On 11-06-06 at 09:18am, Sven Hoexter wrote: On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 08:17:03AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 20:56:25 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: Hi, The majority of published references to VCS repositories are URLs for anonymous access. Also regular Alioth users will be more aware of the Alioth reconfiguration than others, and will know that they need to change the read-write/push URLs. Therefore I think it is more important that the URLs for anonymous access continue to work. I concur. In addition there's way less committers (with their respective clones, chekouts, etc) than current anonymous cloned trees. In general I'd agree but I think it's too late now to switch back. I for one already started to change Vcs-* fields, fix checkouts etc. where needed. Other people did so aswell. My guess is that we're in the middle of this nice epic chaos and switching back now would make it even worse. On the other hand there are all these packages in stable with broken Vcs fields now. Still not nice but assuming that most contributions will be based on what's in unstable that might be bearable. I think that switching back even when some have already adapted is still the best approach (if technically sensible to revert at all!): I don't mean to punish early adopters, but places with links difficult to change should in my opinion take priority, as early adopters likely can also early revert. Regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 10:24 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On 11-06-06 at 09:18am, Sven Hoexter wrote: On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 08:17:03AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 20:56:25 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: Hi, The majority of published references to VCS repositories are URLs for anonymous access. Also regular Alioth users will be more aware of the Alioth reconfiguration than others, and will know that they need to change the read-write/push URLs. Therefore I think it is more important that the URLs for anonymous access continue to work. I concur. In addition there's way less committers (with their respective clones, chekouts, etc) than current anonymous cloned trees. In general I'd agree but I think it's too late now to switch back. I for one already started to change Vcs-* fields, fix checkouts etc. where needed. Other people did so aswell. My guess is that we're in the middle of this nice epic chaos and switching back now would make it even worse. On the other hand there are all these packages in stable with broken Vcs fields now. Still not nice but assuming that most contributions will be based on what's in unstable that might be bearable. I think that switching back even when some have already adapted is still the best approach (if technically sensible to revert at all!): I don't mean to punish early adopters, but places with links difficult to change should in my opinion take priority In particular all the Vcs-* links baked into stable are hard to change at this point... Ian. -- Ian Campbell Current Noise: In The Woods... - ...In The Woods Some people say a front-engine car handles best. Some people say a rear-engine car handles best. I say a rented car handles best. -- P. J. O'Rourke -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307349822.775.421.ca...@zakaz.uk.xensource.com
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
]] Sven Hoexter | On the other hand there are all these packages in stable with broken | Vcs fields now. Still not nice but assuming that most contributions | will be based on what's in unstable that might be bearable. What VCS fields are broken? -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/871uz7nue2@qurzaw.varnish-software.com
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 12:09:41PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: Hi, What VCS fields are broken? Oh I see for gitweb and git://git.d.o everything is already in place and svn.d.o redirects for /wsvn/ and others are already on the todo list. Sorry for the noise and false claims. Sven -- And I don't know much, but I do know this: With a golden heart comes a rebel fist. [ Streetlight Manifesto - Here's To Life ] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110606104904.GE2388@marvin
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
On Mon, June 6, 2011 12:09, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Sven Hoexter | On the other hand there are all these packages in stable with broken | Vcs fields now. Still not nice but assuming that most contributions | will be based on what's in unstable that might be bearable. What VCS fields are broken? There are still many links that have now broken. The Vcs-Browse link here's an example: http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gnupg.html and on the secure-testing mailinglist we also got a report from a user that his existing RSS feeds from wsvn do not work anymore. http://titanpad.com/yyhfwA9Pyr also lists a few others that don't work yet. Cheers, Thijs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/53263be76acd341aed82009a2c06c958.squir...@wm.kinkhorst.nl
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes: ]] Sven Hoexter | On the other hand there are all these packages in stable with broken | Vcs fields now. Still not nice but assuming that most contributions | will be based on what's in unstable that might be bearable. What VCS fields are broken? Neither the VCS repository link nor the VCS browse link work for URL:http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/comixcursors.html. The VCS browse link doesn't work for URL:http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/lojban-common.html. (All of those worked before the migration TTBOMK.) -- \“It is undesirable to believe a proposition when there is no | `\ ground whatever for supposing it true.” —Bertrand Russell, _The | _o__) Value of Scepticism_, 1928 | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87r5761o3h@benfinney.id.au
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
]] Bernd Zeimetz
| On 05/26/2011 07:54 AM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| ]] Scott Kitterman
|
| | Was there some discussion of this with Alioth users before it got
| | changed?
|
| No.
|
| And while I apologise for the problems we've had with the migration, I'd
| like to ask people to just accept some of the changes we've made even
| though you think it makes URLs uglier. They're done to avoid cyclic
| dependencies between services.
|
| Please explain that.
vasks has the copy of the repositories.
wagner NFS mounts the repositories read-only.
vasks is {git,svn,…}.debian.org (so ssh://git.d.o/ continues working),
making svn:// and similar protocols work requires TCP proxying.
ergo, circular dependencies between the hosts. This is something we
want to avoid.
| And I still think loosing the old names is a very annoying PITA.
I'll add SRV records the moment git and svn support resolving resources
using SRV record, you can have the old names back then.
regards,
--
Tollef Fog Heen
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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 21:15 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
]] Bernd Zeimetz
| On 05/26/2011 07:54 AM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| ]] Scott Kitterman
|
| | Was there some discussion of this with Alioth users before it got
| | changed?
|
| No.
|
| And while I apologise for the problems we've had with the migration, I'd
| like to ask people to just accept some of the changes we've made even
| though you think it makes URLs uglier. They're done to avoid cyclic
| dependencies between services.
|
| Please explain that.
vasks has the copy of the repositories.
wagner NFS mounts the repositories read-only.
vasks is {git,svn,…}.debian.org (so ssh://git.d.o/ continues working),
making svn:// and similar protocols work requires TCP proxying.
[...]
The majority of published references to VCS repositories are URLs for
anonymous access. Also regular Alioth users will be more aware of the
Alioth reconfiguration than others, and will know that they need to
change the read-write/push URLs. Therefore I think it is more important
that the URLs for anonymous access continue to work.
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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
On 05/26/2011 07:54 AM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Scott Kitterman | Was there some discussion of this with Alioth users before it got | changed? No. And while I apologise for the problems we've had with the migration, I'd like to ask people to just accept some of the changes we've made even though you think it makes URLs uglier. They're done to avoid cyclic dependencies between services. Please explain that. I can't see how a cyclic dependency could happen there. And I still think loosing the old names is a very annoying PITA. -- Bernd ZeimetzDebian GNU/Linux Developer http://bzed.dehttp://www.debian.org GPG Fingerprints: ECA1 E3F2 8E11 2432 D485 DD95 EB36 171A 6FF9 435F -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4de89df6.9070...@bzed.de
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
I demand that Bernd Zeimetz may or may not have written... [snip] Please provide a proper gitweb instance or at least a proxy at that url to the anonscm gitweb instanace. I'm still seeing directory listings instead of the expected repository pages for /hg/xine-lib/*... [snip] -- | Darren Salt | linux or ds at | nr. Ashington, | _ ASCII ribbon | using Debian | youmustbejoking | Northumberland | ( ) campaign against | GNU/Linux| ,demon,co,uk|| X HTML e-mail / \ www.asciiribbon.org Nothing endures but change. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51dfe230e8%li...@youmustbejoking.demon.co.uk
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
And while I apologise for the problems we've had with the migration, I'd like to ask people to just accept some of the changes we've made even though you think it makes URLs uglier. They're done to avoid cyclic dependencies between services. Please note, that not only git links are (have been) broken. See i.e. Vcs-* from eglibc or libbsd packages: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-glibc/glibc-package/ svn://svn.debian.org/pkg-glibc/glibc-package/ http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/glibc-bsd/?op=log The page http://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/Svn is not updated either and still suggests using http://svn.debian.org/wsvn Please consider some redirection instead of 404 page. Thanks Petr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.lrh.2.02.1105270918090.22...@sci.felk.cvut.cz
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
]] Petr Salinger | http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-glibc/glibc-package/ Yeah, wsvn isn't enabled yet. | svn://svn.debian.org/pkg-glibc/glibc-package/ This works just fine for me. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87boyoo6u0@qurzaw.varnish-software.com
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
On Wed, 25 May 2011, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: It also seems that repositories hosted in public_git don't show up on gitweb anymore. Example: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=users/lucas/packaging-tutorial.git I agree that most of them should be moved to a packaging team, but sometimes it makes sense to host temporary repos in one's home. This has been fixed in the mean time. The main listing still only shows a subset of repositories but if you know the correct url, then you can at least access it. (The problem was broken symlinks in wagner:/git/users/ while they were fine on vasks:/git/users/) Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Developer Follow my Debian News ▶ http://RaphaelHertzog.com (English) ▶ http://RaphaelHertzog.fr (Français) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110526060345.gc30...@rivendell.home.ouaza.com
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
On 2011-05-26 08:03 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Wed, 25 May 2011, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: It also seems that repositories hosted in public_git don't show up on gitweb anymore. Example: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=users/lucas/packaging-tutorial.git I agree that most of them should be moved to a packaging team, but sometimes it makes sense to host temporary repos in one's home. This has been fixed in the mean time. The main listing still only shows a subset of repositories but if you know the correct url, then you can at least access it. But the Vcs-Browser field from debian/control still does not work, links on packages.qa.debian.org lead to a 404: The requested URL /gitweb/gitweb.cgi was not found on this server. Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87wrhducz6@turtle.gmx.de
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
On 05/25/2011 03:04 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
How about posting those rewrites here or, even better, helping out the
Alioth admins to deploy them? I guess they could use some helping hands
more than a bug report sent to -devel.
They are well documented in /usr/share/doc/gitweb/README with various
examples. I'm using
RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} ^$
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^/$
RewriteRule ^/$ /index.html [L]
RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} ^.+$
RewriteRule ^.*$ /gitweb.cgi%{REQUEST_URI} [L,PT]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^/.+\.git.*$
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/repos/.*$
RewriteRule ^.*$ /gitweb.cgi%{REQUEST_URI} [L,PT]
which should be similar to alioth's needs.
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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
On Thu, 26 May 2011, Sven Joachim wrote: But the Vcs-Browser field from debian/control still does not work, links on packages.qa.debian.org lead to a 404: The requested URL /gitweb/gitweb.cgi was not found on this server. That was a temporary glitch, it's fixed now. Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Developer Follow my Debian News ▶ http://RaphaelHertzog.com (English) ▶ http://RaphaelHertzog.fr (Français) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110526091655.ga32...@rivendell.home.ouaza.com
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
On 05/24/2011 01:00 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 23.05.2011 22:35, schrieb Roland Mas: - anonymous read-only access to the repositories is available by HTTP from wagner, at URLs that look like http://anonscm.debian.org/$scm/$project for $scm in arch bzr darcs git hg; Please provide a proper gitweb instance or at least a proxy at that url to the anonscm gitweb instanace. Breaking a massive amount of URLs in packages - and even worse - in upstream documentation, blog posts and pretty much everywhere else which refers to some repositries. That is not funyy and such massice changes without even discussing them first makes the new alioth unusable for me. -- Bernd ZeimetzDebian GNU/Linux Developer http://bzed.dehttp://www.debian.org GPG Fingerprints: ECA1 E3F2 8E11 2432 D485 DD95 EB36 171A 6FF9 435F -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ddcddf3.2070...@debian.org
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:46:11PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: On 05/24/2011 01:00 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 23.05.2011 22:35, schrieb Roland Mas: - anonymous read-only access to the repositories is available by HTTP from wagner, at URLs that look like http://anonscm.debian.org/$scm/$project for $scm in arch bzr darcs git hg; Please provide a proper gitweb instance or at least a proxy at that url to the anonscm gitweb instanace. The old URLs now redirect to the new ones, so nothing should be broken. -- James GPG Key: 1024D/61326D40 2003-09-02 James Vega james...@debian.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
On 25/05/2011 13:20, James Vega wrote: On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:46:11PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: On 05/24/2011 01:00 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 23.05.2011 22:35, schrieb Roland Mas: - anonymous read-only access to the repositories is available by HTTP from wagner, at URLs that look like http://anonscm.debian.org/$scm/$project for $scm in arch bzr darcs git hg; Please provide a proper gitweb instance or at least a proxy at that url to the anonscm gitweb instanace. The old URLs now redirect to the new ones, so nothing should be broken. User-repositories are still broken though (take src:kino as an example). Regards, -- Mehdi Dogguy مهدي الدڤي http://dogguy.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ddce6c5.4040...@dogguy.org
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
On 25/05/11 at 07:20 -0400, James Vega wrote:
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:46:11PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
On 05/24/2011 01:00 AM, Michael Biebl wrote:
Am 23.05.2011 22:35, schrieb Roland Mas:
- anonymous read-only access to the repositories is available by HTTP
from wagner, at URLs that look like
http://anonscm.debian.org/$scm/$project for $scm in arch bzr darcs git
hg;
Please provide a proper gitweb instance or at least a proxy at that url
to the anonscm gitweb instanace.
The old URLs now redirect to the new ones, so nothing should be broken.
I must admit that I prefer shorter URLs. Wouldn't it be possible to
continue using http://{git,svn}.debian.org/ instead (without
redirection)?
Before: http://git.debian.org/?p=devscripts/devscripts.git
After: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=devscripts/devscripts.git
It also seems that repositories hosted in public_git don't show up on
gitweb anymore. Example:
http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=users/lucas/packaging-tutorial.git
I agree that most of them should be moved to a packaging team, but
sometimes it makes sense to host temporary repos in one's home.
- Lucas
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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 01:23:49PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: On 25/05/2011 13:20, James Vega wrote: On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:46:11PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: On 05/24/2011 01:00 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 23.05.2011 22:35, schrieb Roland Mas: - anonymous read-only access to the repositories is available by HTTP from wagner, at URLs that look like http://anonscm.debian.org/$scm/$project for $scm in arch bzr darcs git hg; Please provide a proper gitweb instance or at least a proxy at that url to the anonscm gitweb instanace. The old URLs now redirect to the new ones, so nothing should be broken. User-repositories are still broken though (take src:kino as an example). Yeah, that's a separate, known issue. -- James GPG Key: 1024D/61326D40 2003-09-02 James Vega james...@debian.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
On Wed, May 25, 2011 13:20, James Vega wrote: On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:46:11PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: On 05/24/2011 01:00 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 23.05.2011 22:35, schrieb Roland Mas: - anonymous read-only access to the repositories is available by HTTP from wagner, at URLs that look like http://anonscm.debian.org/$scm/$project for $scm in arch bzr darcs git hg; Please provide a proper gitweb instance or at least a proxy at that url to the anonscm gitweb instanace. The old URLs now redirect to the new ones, so nothing should be broken. That's not quite true, examples are on http://titanpad.com/yyhfwA9Pyr and people that experience unlisted brokenness can add more there. Thijs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/3805d2ab74b8b4e473c6de67a1778d8d.squir...@wm.kinkhorst.nl
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
On Wednesday, May 25, 2011 07:20:01 AM James Vega wrote: On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:46:11PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: On 05/24/2011 01:00 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 23.05.2011 22:35, schrieb Roland Mas: - anonymous read-only access to the repositories is available by HTTP from wagner, at URLs that look like http://anonscm.debian.org/$scm/$project for $scm in arch bzr darcs git hg; Please provide a proper gitweb instance or at least a proxy at that url to the anonscm gitweb instanace. The old URLs now redirect to the new ones, so nothing should be broken. Will now redirect is not the same as unchanged. While this does change the urgency of updating the relevant VCS- fields in debian/control, I don't think it avoids the need to update them eventually. Was there some discussion of this with Alioth users before it got changed? Scott K -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201105250757.25299.deb...@kitterman.com
Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
On 05/25/2011 01:30 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
I must admit that I prefer shorter URLs. Wouldn't it be possible to
continue using http://{git,svn}.debian.org/ instead (without
redirection)?
Before: http://git.debian.org/?p=devscripts/devscripts.git
After: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=devscripts/devscripts.git
Even better would be http://git.debian.org/devscripts/devscripts.git
which is easy to handle with some rewrites.
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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
Bernd Zeimetz be...@bzed.de writes:
On 05/25/2011 01:30 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
I must admit that I prefer shorter URLs. Wouldn't it be possible to
continue using http://{git,svn}.debian.org/ instead (without
redirection)?
Before: http://git.debian.org/?p=devscripts/devscripts.git
After: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=devscripts/devscripts.git
Even better would be http://git.debian.org/devscripts/devscripts.git
which is easy to handle with some rewrites.
It is probably easy given enough information, yes. What was that URL
used for? Gitweb? Git checkouts over HTTP? Something else?
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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]
]] Scott Kitterman | Was there some discussion of this with Alioth users before it got | changed? No. And while I apologise for the problems we've had with the migration, I'd like to ask people to just accept some of the changes we've made even though you think it makes URLs uglier. They're done to avoid cyclic dependencies between services. Regards, -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87oc2qqa56@qurzaw.varnish-software.com
