Re: Bug#595081: ITP: openresolv -- management framework for resolv.conf

2010-08-31 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:48:47PM +0100, Roy Marples wrote:
 Package: wnpp
 Severity: wishlist
 Owner: Roy Marples r...@marples.name

 * Package name: openresolv
   Version : 3.3.5
   Upstream Author : Roy Marples r...@marples.name
 * URL : http://roy.marples.name/projects/openresolv
 * License : BSD-2
   Programming Lang: Shell
   Description : management framework for resolv.conf

   Allows multiple daemons to manage resolv.conf and configures
   local resolvers such as dnsmasq and unbound.

We already have one of these called resolvconf, and it has plenty of bugs
without adding a *second* framework for managing resolv.conf.  Please
coordinate with the resolvconf maintainer and, preferably, merge your
efforts with the existing package.

(In fact, I think that should be a blocker and that the ftp team should
reject any upload of a separate openresolv package.)

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Re: Bug#595081: ITP: openresolv -- management framework for resolv.conf

2010-08-31 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, Roy Marples wrote:
 Description : management framework for resolv.conf
 
 Allows multiple daemons to manage resolv.conf and configures local
 resolvers such as dnsmasq and unbound.

How does this differ from resolvconf which already has significant
buy-in and integration in Debian?


Don Armstrong

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Re: Bug#595081: ITP: openresolv -- management framework for resolv.conf

2010-08-31 Thread Roy Marples
On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 15:17 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
 We already have one of these called resolvconf, and it has plenty of bugs
 without adding a *second* framework for managing resolv.conf.  Please
 coordinate with the resolvconf maintainer and, preferably, merge your
 efforts with the existing package.

I tried many few years ago, but my patches were rejected (I forget why,
don't have the emails anymore), so I created my own variant from scratch
keeping a compatible commandline interface.

#477723 - author is trying to pass resolvconf off to a new maintainer
for over 2 years
The other resolvconf bugs do not affect openresolv, and openresolv also
solves many of them.

 (In fact, I think that should be a blocker and that the ftp team should
 reject any upload of a separate openresolv package.)

I find that a very narrow minded view.

Thanks

Roy



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Re: Bug#595081: ITP: openresolv -- management framework for resolv.conf

2010-08-31 Thread Roy Marples
On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 15:20 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: 
 On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, Roy Marples wrote:
  Description : management framework for resolv.conf
  
  Allows multiple daemons to manage resolv.conf and configures local
  resolvers such as dnsmasq and unbound.
 
 How does this differ from resolvconf which already has significant
 buy-in and integration in Debian?

Taken from
http://roy.marples.name/projects/openresolv/wiki/OpenResolvReasons

  * Works with POSIX shell and userland 
  * Does not need awk, grep or sed which means we can work
without /usr mounted 
  * Works with other init systems than Debians' out of the box 
  * Available as a 2 clause BSD license 
  * Prefer configs via IF_METRIC for dynamic ordering 
  * Configures zones for local resolvers other than libc

The last point is quite important, especially when running VPN systems.
Take the following resolv.conf files which have been generated by a
DHCP client and sent to resolvconf:

# resolv.conf from bge0
search foo.com
nameserver 1.2.3.4

# resolv.conf from tap0
domain bar.org
nameserver 5.6.7.8

In this instance, queries for foo.com will go to 1.2.3.4 and queries for
bar.org will go to 5.6.7.8. This does require the resolvers to be
configured to pickup the resolvconf generated configuration for them
though. openresolv ships with helpers for dnsmasq, ISC BIND,PowerDNS
Recursor and unbound

Other than that, the openresolv is command line compatible with
resolvconf. However, the setup is not. Instead of many directories and
files to manage, openresolv just uses /etc/resolvconf.conf.

Aside from the user specific configuration, openresolv integrates 100%
with a Debian based system.

Thanks

Roy


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Re: Bug#595081: ITP: openresolv -- management framework for resolv.conf

2010-08-31 Thread Roy Marples
On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 15:20 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
 On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, Roy Marples wrote:
  Description : management framework for resolv.conf
  
  Allows multiple daemons to manage resolv.conf and configures local
  resolvers such as dnsmasq and unbound.
 
 How does this differ from resolvconf which already has significant
 buy-in and integration in Debian?

  * Works with POSIX shell and userland 
  * Does not need awk, grep or sed which means we can work
without /usr mounted 
  * Works with other init systems than Debians' out of the box 
  * Available as a 2 clause BSD license 
  * Prefer configs via IF_METRIC for dynamic ordering 
  * Configures zones for local resolvers other than libc

The last point is quite important, especially when running VPN systems.
Take the following resolv.conf files which have been generated by a
DHCP client and sent to resolvconf:

# resolv.conf from bge0
search foo.com
nameserver 1.2.3.4

# resolv.conf from tap0
domain bar.org
nameserver 5.6.7.8

In this instance, queries for foo.com will go to 1.2.3.4 and queries for
bar.org will go to 5.6.7.8. This does require the resolvers to be
configured to pickup the resolvconf generated configuration for them
though. openresolv ships with helpers for dnsmasq, ISC BIND,PowerDNS
Recursor and unbound

Other than that, the openresolv is command line compatible with
resolvconf. However, the setup is not. Instead of many directories and
files to manage, openresolv just uses /etc/resolvconf.conf.

Aside from the user specific configuration, openresolv integrates 100%
with a Debian based system.

Thanks

Roy



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