Re: Bug#595427: wnpp: ITP: winetricks -- Quick and dirty script to download and install variousredistributable runtime libraries

2011-03-23 Thread Jari Aalto
2011-03-15 21:24 Austin English austinengl...@gmail.com:
 On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 13:52, Jari Aalto jari.aa...@cante.net wrote:
    - does not depend on external programs outside of Debian.

 ...vast majority of its uses requires downloading things from outside of
 Debian, typically with a potentially non-DFSG license (Microsoft
 redistributable dlls being one of the most common).

But that does not conern Debian. The winetricks itsef is LGPL and DSFG
compliant.


    - has nothing to do with WINE package itself, so bundling it would
      not be good. Winetricks update schedule is different from WINE.

 Actually, we're looking at making the release schedule match Wine's
 (every other Friday), to make it easier to package. That said, it's
 not a huge deal at the moment, since Debian hasn't updated Wine in
 ages (still waiting on mingw64 to build wine-gecko, last I checked,
 but I'm not intimately familiar with the situation).

If I understand correct, there are no obstacles left with proceeding with
the packaging of winetricks?

Jari


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Re: Bug#595427: wnpp: ITP: winetricks -- Quick and dirty script to download and install variousredistributable runtime libraries

2011-03-23 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2011-03-23, Jari Aalto jari.aa...@cante.net wrote:
 2011-03-15 21:24 Austin English austinengl...@gmail.com:
 On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 13:52, Jari Aalto jari.aa...@cante.net wrote:
    - does not depend on external programs outside of Debian.
 ...vast majority of its uses requires downloading things from outside of
 Debian, typically with a potentially non-DFSG license (Microsoft
 redistributable dlls being one of the most common).
 But that does not conern Debian. The winetricks itsef is LGPL and DSFG
 compliant.

Ew, you certainly know what contrib is about, right?

Kind regards
Philipp Kern


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Re: Bug#595427: wnpp: ITP: winetricks -- Quick and dirty script to download and install variousredistributable runtime libraries

2011-03-15 Thread Jari Aalto
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:52:05 +0200
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 Andreas Barth a...@not.so.argh.org
 
 
 I agree that starting with the current scripts is for starters. But we
 should do it in a way that is prepared for doing it right, and then
 starting with the easier parts of replacing the scripts with the right
 libraries.
 
 Obviously there are some very low hanging fruits within the
 winetricks-scripts (basically everything that is downloaded from an
 open source site).

What is the status of this ITP opened 2010-10-03, 6 months ago? To my
understanding winetricks:

- is DFSG compliant. The current license is GPL.

- does not depend on external programs outside of Debian.

- is a single utility that helps quite a bit to install WINE related
  software much easier.

- has nothing to do with WINE package itself, so bundling it would
  not be good. Winetricks update schedule is different from WINE.

- There is no sense of making integration packages for WINE like
  those of Perl and Python, because WinE/Windows is too unstable
  platform to target at.

Could we just package it as is for the benefit of the users?

Jari


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Re: Bug#595427: wnpp: ITP: winetricks -- Quick and dirty script to download and install variousredistributable runtime libraries

2011-03-15 Thread Andreas Barth
* Jari Aalto (jari.aa...@cante.net) [110315 19:57]:
 What is the status of this ITP opened 2010-10-03, 6 months ago? To my
 understanding winetricks:

 - does not depend on external programs outside of Debian.
 
 - is a single utility that helps quite a bit to install WINE related
   software much easier.

downloaders are typically considered contrib.



 - has nothing to do with WINE package itself, so bundling it would
   not be good. Winetricks update schedule is different from WINE.

Agreed.

 - There is no sense of making integration packages for WINE like
   those of Perl and Python, because WinE/Windows is too unstable
   platform to target at.

I still think that building the packages winetricks downloads (and
installing them by normal debian means) would be helpful. However, I
agree with you that

 Could we just package it as is for the benefit of the users?

that's still better than nothing. Splitting things off could be a
second step.


Andi


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Re: Bug#595427: wnpp: ITP: winetricks -- Quick and dirty script to download and install variousredistributable runtime libraries

2011-03-15 Thread Austin English
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 13:52, Jari Aalto jari.aa...@cante.net wrote:
    - is DFSG compliant. The current license is GPL.

Nitpick, but winetricks is LGPL (same as Wine).

    - does not depend on external programs outside of Debian.

Winetricks can do some things without external help (change the
emulated windows version, change graphics settings, etc.), but the
vast majority of its uses requires downloading things from outside of
Debian, typically with a potentially non-DFSG license (Microsoft
redistributable dlls being one of the most common).

    - has nothing to do with WINE package itself, so bundling it would
      not be good. Winetricks update schedule is different from WINE.

Actually, we're looking at making the release schedule match Wine's
(every other Friday), to make it easier to package. That said, it's
not a huge deal at the moment, since Debian hasn't updated Wine in
ages (still waiting on mingw64 to build wine-gecko, last I checked,
but I'm not intimately familiar with the situation).

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-Austin


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