Re: Call for mascot! :-) -- flying pigs
Phillip R. Jaenke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why a dolphin? Well, they're intelligent. Definitely intelligent. They're pretty cute. :) And they're definitely flexible. (I'd like to see *you* burst out of the water, do a backflip or two midair, and make a perfect reentry.;) Right, and they cooperate reasonably well too. Though our more consertive contingent might not like the fact that they also tend to be somewhat promiscuous. -- Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: Call for mascot! :-) -- flying pigs
Alexander N. Benner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ok .. beat me for this .. but it does not realy meen 'good bye and thankyou for the fish' ! Dolphins are not more intelligent then paes or other animals. Intelligence referes also to somewhat of abstract thinking which no animal has. Um. There's a substantial body of recent psych and animal behavior research that indicates that this isn't nearly as obvious as you seem to claim. Even older research, like that mentioned in Sagan's Dragons of Eden casts doubt on the hypothesis that higher animals like dolphins don't have abstract cognitive processes... -- Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: Call for mascot! :-) -- flying pigs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 1 Feb 1999, Rob Browning wrote: Why a dolphin? Well, they're intelligent. Definitely intelligent. They're pretty cute. :) And they're definitely flexible. (I'd like to see *you* burst out of the water, do a backflip or two midair, and make a perfect reentry.;) Right, and they cooperate reasonably well too. Though our more consertive contingent might not like the fact that they also tend to be somewhat promiscuous. And who says Linux isn't promiscuous?! Can interconnect and/or interface with every single OS that I can think of, one way or another. *grins, and runs away before being pelted with tomatoes and other assorted fruits!* - -Phillip R. Jaenke ([EMAIL PROTECTED] | InterNIC: PRJ5) Look. It works this way. Why? Because the designer said so. Why? Because the designer is a moron. Let's fix it. --anon. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNrYP+jtUbefKjv6dAQGLcQP/VR4SjOS20W3jMBv7515fjS/iN1IAIiSe GNavvF3G3jIwYAuXg3N+7P8muwsnmR1b/XOI2walDpNk9ItqDZuZ/zT9K005hXvc rj3KJ7D1gGdtw4o/S9IuI31nOadr9BopW1UnCcQTUcBzIeuF4xZ30HFFKi1n6gF7 GnsmEBjZVQk= =YWJS -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Call for mascot! :-) -- flying pigs
Anderson MacKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Avery Pennarun wrote: Octopi and ants may also be good, if they have wings. Octopi with wings? Now -that- is a confusing bunch of appendages, if you ask me. =) Squid is a better choice than octopus. Some of them actually do fly for short distances. Perhaps glide is more accurate. -- Kevin Dalley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Call for mascot! :-) -- flying pigs
Kevin Dalley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anderson MacKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Avery Pennarun wrote: Octopi and ants may also be good, if they have wings. Octopi with wings? Now -that- is a confusing bunch of appendages, if you ask me. =) Squid is a better choice than octopus. Some of them actually do fly for short distances. Perhaps glide is more accurate. How about a balrog? They have *lots* of eyes; we wouldn't be limited to 8. -- ...In the UNIX world, people tend to interpret `non-technical user' as meaning someone who's only ever written one device driver. --Daniel Pead
Re: Call for mascot! :-) -- flying pigs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 30 Jan 1999, Ben Pfaff wrote: Kevin Dalley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anderson MacKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Avery Pennarun wrote: Octopi and ants may also be good, if they have wings. Octopi with wings? Now -that- is a confusing bunch of appendages, if you ask me. =) Squid is a better choice than octopus. Some of them actually do fly for short distances. Perhaps glide is more accurate. How about a balrog? They have *lots* of eyes; we wouldn't be limited to 8. Why not Yog Sothoth? *grin* Seriously, IMO, I don't see any reason not to stick with the Penguin. But if ya gotta have a new mascot, IMHO, I think a Dolphin would be nice. And I'm gonna justify it just to drive you all nuts. ;) Why a dolphin? Well, they're intelligent. Definitely intelligent. They're pretty cute. :) And they're definitely flexible. (I'd like to see *you* burst out of the water, do a backflip or two midair, and make a perfect reentry.;) Anyways, back to getting procmail working. Just my $0.02USD. ;) - -Phillip R. Jaenke ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) something is not right, but i don't think it's wrong. --anon. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNrPRBsES8LwwGtVlAQFcVQP/Y4GJnDOjmF+uHOesiBRwuGmn+QerKZGU 0RqbHimqBMBvYn1uHcPZDb0CY0Mgxpvv/4zHeclMNEQxJfhIp39HcbYZvzuMmi0m tNY7J1rJyZtHXmrJ+AouVt1SZ+GY7WHdkE3xiCWYxMUd4nH7UGPdjTJIrVQnr9DD 05QPoL8x8Qg= =ds8J -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Waaaaay Off-Topic] Re: Call for mascot! :-) -- flying pigs
On Sat, Jan 30, 1999 at 10:30:58PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: On Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 05:57:47PM -0600, Anderson MacKay wrote: The key here is cute. People don't want an ugly chicken-like creature that is clearly ready to attack at the slightest provocation. And furthermore, even if it -was- to attack, it really wouldn't do anything. Linus -was- able to give a convincing, -somewhat- alarming description of an angry penguin and why you wouldn't want to mess with him, but really ... chicken? Are you crazy? A mad chicken will pick your eyes out... Or bite your legs off. =) I think someone also recently proposed the Debian Squid. H. I still just don't think that has the necessary intimidation factor. :) And balrogs? Well, I guess that all depends on your interpretation of balrog ... but that definitely is intimidating. Open up a CD, hey look -- it's the Black Fire-Breathing Debian Beast of Death! ;) -- Anderson MacKay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Call for mascot! :-) -- flying pigs
On 30 Jan 1999, Ben Pfaff wrote: Kevin Dalley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anderson MacKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Avery Pennarun wrote: Octopi and ants may also be good, if they have wings. Octopi with wings? Now -that- is a confusing bunch of appendages, if you ask me. =) Squid is a better choice than octopus. Some of them actually do fly for short distances. Perhaps glide is more accurate. How about a balrog? They have *lots* of eyes; we wouldn't be limited to 8. Eh? WTF did you get that from? Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/
Re: [Waaaaay Off-Topic] Re: Call for mascot! :-) -- flying pigs
Previously Anderson MacKay wrote: Or bite your legs off. =) Nah, that was a cute little bunny rabbit :) We could then have conversations like this with our users: CART DRIVER: Bring out your dead! LARGE MAN: Here's one! CART DRIVER: Ninepence. BODY:I'm not dead! Wichert. -- == This combination of bytes forms a message written to you by Wichert Akkerman. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~wichert/ pgpCDJ1e8QWVL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Call for mascot! :-) -- flying pigs
hi Ship's Log, Lt. Phillip R. Jaenke, Stardate 300199.2241: Why a dolphin? Well, they're intelligent. Definitely intelligent. They're pretty cute. :) And they're definitely flexible. (I'd like to see *you* burst out of the water, do a backflip or two midair, and make a perfect reentry.;) ok .. beat me for this .. but it does not realy meen 'good bye and thankyou for the fish' ! Dolphins are not more intelligent then paes or other animals. Intelligence referes also to somewhat of abstract thinking which no animal has. Greetings -- Alexander N. Benner And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. -*- The Bible (Mark 12:29-30)
Re: Call for mascot! :-) -- flying pigs
On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, M.C. Vernon wrote: On 30 Jan 1999, Ben Pfaff wrote: Kevin Dalley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anderson MacKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Avery Pennarun wrote: Octopi and ants may also be good, if they have wings. Octopi with wings? Now -that- is a confusing bunch of appendages, if you ask me. =) Squid is a better choice than octopus. Some of them actually do fly for short distances. Perhaps glide is more accurate. What about a hybrid. An octupus/squid with a penguins head. OR a penguin with octupus tentacles. Same thing. -steve
Re: Call for mascot! :-) -- flying pigs
Alexander N. Benner wrote: hi Ship's Log, Lt. Phillip R. Jaenke, Stardate 300199.2241: Why a dolphin? Well, they're intelligent. Definitely intelligent. They're pretty cute. :) And they're definitely flexible. (I'd like to see *you* burst out of the water, do a backflip or two midair, and make a perfect reentry.;) ok .. beat me for this .. but it does not realy meen 'good bye and thankyou for the fish' ! Dolphins are not more intelligent then paes or other animals. Intelligence referes also to somewhat of abstract thinking which no animal has. Intelligence does not refer to abstract thinking which no animal has. Intelligence refers to the capacity for thought, which even animals such as ants or fleas have to some minor extent. I've never heard it referred to as abstract thought only. Also why don't they have abstract thinking? I'm not up on cetacean biology, so let me discuss primates and analogize back. Primates have enough abstract thinking to speak and assemble objects in search of a future goal. Not much, but not non-existent. Cetaceans are a bit harder to study, as primates think alike, and in different ways from cetaceans. If they have enough intellegence to say good bye and thanks for all the fish, then it wouldn't be at all suprising we missed the intellegence before. Greetings -- Alexander N. Benner And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. -*- The Bible (Mark 12:29-30) But here's the real crux of the matter - we appear to be starting from two different ideological standpoints that each hold part of the answer as postulate. (Atheism over here, which holds that we are merely an evolutionary step from the primates, and are soulless animals oursleves.) As further argument would be fruitless and off topic, I will respond no further on list. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dullard: someone who, wanting a piece of information, takes down the appropriate volume of the encyclopedia, looks up the item they need, and then puts the volume away without reading anything else. - Peter Dell'Orto, paraphrased from Philip Jose Farmer
Re: [Waaaaay Off-Topic] Re: Call for mascot! :-) -- flying pigs
On Sun, Jan 31, 1999 at 01:50:28PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: We could then have conversations like this with our users: CART DRIVER: Bring out your dead! LARGE MAN: Here's one! CART DRIVER: Ninepence. BODY:I'm not dead! I'm waiting for someone not to know where that's from... -- I'm working in the dark here. Yeah well rumor has it you do your best work in the dark. -- Earth: Final Conflict
Re: Call for mascot! :-) -- flying pigs
On Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 05:57:47PM -0600, Anderson MacKay wrote: The key here is cute. People don't want an ugly chicken-like creature that is clearly ready to attack at the slightest provocation. And furthermore, even if it -was- to attack, it really wouldn't do anything. Linus -was- able to give a convincing, -somewhat- alarming description of an angry penguin and why you wouldn't want to mess with him, but really ... chicken? Are you crazy? A mad chicken will pick your eyes out... :) Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09
Re: Call for mascot! :-) -- flying pigs
On Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 01:35:24PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: I mean, how often do you see an Octopus flying across the sky? I can honestly say that I'm more likely to see an octopus fly across the sky than a dragon. I don't think so - Octopi can't fly! (Unless they flap their arms (legs?) really hard, and then they'd run out of energy and die from falling :) Octopi are real, dragons are mytical. I am more apt to see something real flying through the air, no matter how improbable, than something mythical, which I cannot ever see at all. For that matter, how about a flying pig? Then at least outsiders will get the joke. You know, a slightly lean, brightly smiling, winged angel-pig with what might or might not be a curly tail. Hey, he could have a cape, like Super Pig. Think about it, you'll learn to love it. The key here is cute. People don't want an ugly chicken-like creature that is clearly ready to attack at the slightest provocation. Octopi and ants may also be good, if they have wings. Have fun, Avery
Re: Call for mascot! :-) -- flying pigs
On Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 06:14:17PM -0500, Avery Pennarun wrote: Octopi and ants may also be good, if they have wings. Ants with wings would look like termites. Ick... -- David Welton http://www.efn.org/~davidw Debian GNU/Linux - www.debian.org
Re: Call for mascot! :-) -- flying pigs
On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Avery Pennarun wrote: For that matter, how about a flying pig? Then at least outsiders will get the joke. If we're going for flying barnyard animals, I really have to go with flying cows. I mean, I'm sure this is horribly english-language-centric :), but you've got great material both from Python's _Holy_Grail_ and Gary Larson's _The_Far_Side_. The key here is cute. People don't want an ugly chicken-like creature that is clearly ready to attack at the slightest provocation. And furthermore, even if it -was- to attack, it really wouldn't do anything. Linus -was- able to give a convincing, -somewhat- alarming description of an angry penguin and why you wouldn't want to mess with him, but really ... chicken? If it was a rooster, maybe it'd be a little intimidating. That's the great thing about the FreeBSD guy ... he looks nice and all, but he's still got that spear-thing. Octopi and ants may also be good, if they have wings. Octopi with wings? Now -that- is a confusing bunch of appendages, if you ask me. =) Andy
