Re: Heads up: ffmpeg transition (SONAME Change!)
Reinhard Tartler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear fellow debian developers. Currently debian/testing ships a very old copy of ffmpeg, dated from 0.cvs20070307. We, the ffmpeg maintainers (Fabian Greffrath and myself) do not consider that version of ffmpeg acceptable for release in debian lenny. Many newer applications of ffmpeg (like mplayer) require a newer ffmpeg to build, others (like xine) are waiting for debian to update the ffmpeg package. The new ffmpeg package now has entered unstable and did build on all architectures successfully. Please rebuild your packages against this new version of ffmpeg at your earliest convenience. -- Gruesse/greetings, Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Heads up: ffmpeg transition (SONAME Change!)
* Reinhard Tartler [Tue, 20 May 2008 11:57:39 +0200]: Reinhard Tartler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear fellow debian developers. Currently debian/testing ships a very old copy of ffmpeg, dated from 0.cvs20070307. We, the ffmpeg maintainers (Fabian Greffrath and myself) do not consider that version of ffmpeg acceptable for release in debian lenny. Many newer applications of ffmpeg (like mplayer) require a newer ffmpeg to build, others (like xine) are waiting for debian to update the ffmpeg package. The new ffmpeg package now has entered unstable and did build on all architectures successfully. Please rebuild your packages against this new version of ffmpeg at your earliest convenience. Er, is there a reason you're proposing this, instead of the release team scheduling binNMUs? Cheers, -- Adeodato Simó dato at net.com.org.es Debian Developer adeodato at debian.org Listening to: Mónica Naranjo - Desátame -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Heads up: ffmpeg transition (SONAME Change!)
Adeodato Simó [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Er, is there a reason you're proposing this, instead of the release team scheduling binNMUs? Oh, I'm sorry, you are completely right. Please ignore my post. -- Gruesse/greetings, Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Heads up: ffmpeg transition (SONAME Change!)
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:33 PM, Reinhard Tartler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adeodato Simó [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Er, is there a reason you're proposing this, instead of the release team scheduling binNMUs? Oh, I'm sorry, you are completely right. Please ignore my post. Some packages will need source changes, at least synfig was bit by a structure member changing from a structure to a pointer. KiBi or I will do this one in the next few days. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
Re: Heads up: ffmpeg transition (SONAME Change!)
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 11:28:24AM +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote: Currently debian/testing ships a very old copy of ffmpeg, dated from 0.cvs20070307. We, the ffmpeg maintainers (Fabian Greffrath and myself) do not consider that version of ffmpeg acceptable for release in debian lenny. Many newer applications of ffmpeg (like mplayer) require a newer ffmpeg to build, others (like xine) are waiting for debian to update the ffmpeg package. On a related note, what are the plans for ffmpeg encoding? As it is, the current lenny package seems to have stripped away most everything, leaving the transcoding support of VLC (among others) near-useless (try using MPEG-1 to stream low-bitrate video...). /* Steinar */ -- Homepage: http://www.sesse.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Heads up: ffmpeg transition (SONAME Change!)
removing debian-release, as this discussion is not relevant for the next debian release. Steinar H. Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On a related note, what are the plans for ffmpeg encoding? As it is, the current lenny package seems to have stripped away most everything, leaving the transcoding support of VLC (among others) near-useless (try using MPEG-1 to stream low-bitrate video...). I just added a note about that to README.Debian: http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/pkg-multimedia/experimental/ffmpeg/debian/README.Debian?view=markup Quoting from that: Disabled MPEG encoders == On Debconf 7, the ffmpeg maintainers had a conversation with James Troup from the ftpteam about mpeg encoders in the ffmpeg package. The ftpteam was pretty surprised about the accepted encoders, and admitted that they were accepted by accident. We therefore had no choice but removing them. We agreed on a plan that rather disables than removes the encoders, for details see debian/strip.sh, rendering those encoders unusable. In order to make this fact visible, the source package was renamed from ffmpeg to ffmpeg-free. The plan is to provide a source package called 'ffmpeg' (without the -free) suffix, which builds drop-in replacement binary package with the mpeg encoders enabled. Ideally, we would be allowed to include those mpeg encoders enabled in non-free, but we haven't heared back from the ftpteam about that idea. -- Reinhard Tartler [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sun, 20 Apr 2008 08:43:23 +0200 Help on that is desperately needed. Either by working on creating/packaging/testing/distributing unstripped ffmpeg binary packages or by asking the ftpteam to make an official statement if such a package would be accepted in debian/non-free. I was told that there was an ftpteam internal discussion about that, and even a vote about exactly this topic, but I was not told the result of that vote. -- Gruesse/greetings, Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Heads up: ffmpeg transition (SONAME Change!)
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 11:18:13AM +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote: On Debconf 7, the ffmpeg maintainers had a conversation with James Troup from the ftpteam about mpeg encoders in the ffmpeg package. The ftpteam was pretty surprised about the accepted encoders, and admitted that they were accepted by accident. We therefore had no choice but removing them. We agreed on a plan that rather disables than removes the encoders, for details see debian/strip.sh, rendering those encoders unusable. For those of us not living in jurisdictions where software patents appear very enforceable, is there currently any way to build our own, unstripped packages? (Sort of like the DVD-CSS example script downloading and building the right modules for you.) /* Steinar */ -- Homepage: http://www.sesse.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Heads up: ffmpeg transition (SONAME Change!)
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 12:29:20PM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: [ffmpeg] For those of us not living in jurisdictions where software patents appear very enforceable, is there currently any way to build our own, unstripped packages? (Sort of like the DVD-CSS example script downloading and building the right modules for you.) While requests for reviving non-US (non-JP non-DE) are heard from time to time, it's still not there :( For now, the best choice is the good old debian-non-legal repository available at http://debian-multimedia.org, thanks to great work by Christian Marillat. I don't think there is a reason to have downloaders for perfectly free software if you can have it properly packaged, with both binaries and source, at a place where the patent lobby doesn't rule. Too bad, that repository mixes free but patented pieces of software with outright undistributable ones (hence the debian-non-legal nickname), but unlike most repositories you don't need to worry about quality of packaging. And there's still hope for non-US-JP-DE... -- 1KB // Microsoft corollary to Hanlon's razor: // Never attribute to stupidity what can be // adequately explained by malice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
