Re: ITP: adun.app -- a Molecular Simulator

2006-10-02 Thread Frank Küster
Gurkan Sengun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 2006-08-31 13:24:21 +0200 Steffen Joeris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi
 
 On Thursday 31 August 2006 01:58, Gürkan Sengün wrote:
 Package: wnpp
 Severity: wishlist
 
 * Package name: adun.app
 Maybe I miss some essential parts, but I always wonder why some people add a 
 .app to the software name? Can you please give me a short explanation or 
 point me to a previous thread?

 they don't. it's just the debian packages that do. to not rape the debian
 package name space. 

That's a worthwile goal.

 please check the mailing list archive for details.

 why, are you having a problem with the names?

I think this is also already in the archives:  To the knowing, the .app
suffix indicates that it is a Gnustep application.  To everyone else,
.app is pretty much meaningless.  Therefore I'd prefer if you'd use a
suffix with a less arcane meaning, like -gnustep.

Regards, Frank
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Re: ITP: adun.app -- a Molecular Simulator

2006-10-02 Thread Miles Bader
Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 .app is pretty much meaningless.  Therefore I'd prefer if you'd use a
 suffix with a less arcane meaning, like -gnustep.

Does anyone truly care?  Is it worth any effort to rename?

-miles
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Re: ITP: adun.app -- a Molecular Simulator

2006-10-02 Thread Frank Küster
Miles Bader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 .app is pretty much meaningless.  Therefore I'd prefer if you'd use a
 suffix with a less arcane meaning, like -gnustep.

 Does anyone truly care?  Is it worth any effort to rename?

It's an ITP, why not do it better with new packages?

Regards, Frank
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Re: ITP: adun.app -- a Molecular Simulator

2006-10-01 Thread Gurkan Sengun
On 2006-08-31 13:24:21 +0200 Steffen Joeris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi
 
 On Thursday 31 August 2006 01:58, Gürkan Sengün wrote:
 Package: wnpp
 Severity: wishlist
 
 * Package name: adun.app
 Maybe I miss some essential parts, but I always wonder why some people add a 
 .app to the software name? Can you please give me a short explanation or 
 point me to a previous thread?

they don't. it's just the debian packages that do. to not rape the debian
package name space. please check the mailing list archive for details.

why, are you having a problem with the names?

 Cheers
 Steffen

yours,
Guerkan




Re: ITP: adun.app -- a Molecular Simulator

2006-08-31 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 10:12:04PM -0400, Daniel Dickinson wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 09:24:21PM +1000, Steffen Joeris wrote:
   * Package name: adun.app
  Maybe I miss some essential parts, but I always wonder why some people add 
  a .app to the software name? Can you please give me a short explanation or 
  point me to a previous thread?
 
 IIRC .app is usually used by apps with gnustep support (e.g. WindowMaker
 dockapps). It doesn't normally mean they only work on gnustep though,
 just that they use some features from gnustep, when available.

Just like all the stuff that prepends 'k' or mispells its initial letter as
'k'.


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Re: ITP: adun.app -- a Molecular Simulator

2006-08-30 Thread Steffen Joeris
Hi

On Thursday 31 August 2006 01:58, Gürkan Sengün wrote:
 Package: wnpp
 Severity: wishlist

 * Package name: adun.app
Maybe I miss some essential parts, but I always wonder why some people add 
a .app to the software name? Can you please give me a short explanation or 
point me to a previous thread?

Cheers
Steffen


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Re: ITP: adun.app -- a Molecular Simulator

2006-08-30 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 09:24:21PM +1000, Steffen Joeris wrote:
 Hi
 
  * Package name: adun.app
 Maybe I miss some essential parts, but I always wonder why some people add 
 a .app to the software name? Can you please give me a short explanation or 
 point me to a previous thread?
 

IIRC .app is usually used by apps with gnustep support (e.g. WindowMaker
dockapps). It doesn't normally mean they only work on gnustep though,
just that they use some features from gnustep, when available.


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Re: ITP: adun.app -- a Molecular Simulator

2006-08-30 Thread Hubert Chan
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:12:04 -0400, Daniel Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 09:24:21PM +1000, Steffen Joeris wrote:
 Hi
 
  * Package name : adun.app
 Maybe I miss some essential parts, but I always wonder why some
 people add a .app to the software name? Can you please give me a
 short explanation or point me to a previous thread?

 IIRC .app is usually used by apps with gnustep support (e.g. WindowMaker
 dockapps). It doesn't normally mean they only work on gnustep though,
 just that they use some features from gnustep, when available.

To clarify, .app is generally used by GNUstep programs, and for some
dockapps.  Dockapps that are not written specifically for GNUstep don't
use GNUstep features at all, and those that use GNUstep features rely on
GNUstep.  I am not aware of any that don't rely on GNUstep, but that use
GNUstep features when present.

There seems to be only a handful of dockapps that use .app, though, so
if you see a package that says .app, chances are that it's a GNUstep
program.  And nearly all GNUstep programs say .app.

The .app comes from the NeXT nomenclature of programs.

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