let's not yet hijack this package (Re: Intend to hijack xchat-xsys)

2008-03-12 Thread Bart Martens
On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 22:19 -0200, UlisesVitulli wrote:
 Hi debian-devel,
 
 I've been talking with the maintainer[1] of xchat-xsys[2] 

Private conversation ?

 for several
 bugs

I don't see several bugs.
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=xchat-xsys

 and many new upstream releases hold back on Debian, 

Two upstream releases.

grep ^v xsys-2.2.0/ChangeLog | head -n 3
v2.2.0
v2.1.0
v2.0.9

Please report a bug to the bts requesting the newest upstream release to
be packaged in Debian.

 and he
 communicated me that he is not longer interested on maintaining it any
 more.

Private conversation ?

 Unfortunately, my suggestion of orphaning the pkg made no difference
 to the current maintainer, as he showed no cares at all for it.

Maybe the maintainer does not agree about orphaning ?

 
 With a modest popcon of 242[3] and a bug related to a dep, rendering
 the pkg in an unusable state, 

Please report this bug related to a dep in the bts.

 this package needs attention.

I suggest that you use the bts to document that in public.

 If there are no objections, 

I object.

 I plan to upload a new pkg 

Please follow the NMU procedure if you want to update the package
yourself.  The current 0-day NMU upload policy might be applicable
depending on the severity of the bugs to be fixed.

 which, not only
 solves the critical bug I mentioned, 

Please report this critical bug in the bts.

 it incorporates about 2 years and
 a half of updates, 

Almost 2 years.  And, yes, that's a long time, giving the impression
that the maintainer is no longer interested, or at least temporarily not
active.

 solving two bugs more listened on BTS.
 

If you have fixes for existing bugs in the bts, then please post the
fixes to the bts.

Regards,

Bart Martens



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Re: Intend to hijack xchat-xsys

2008-03-12 Thread William Pitcock
Hi,

On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 22:19 -0200, UlisesVitulli wrote:
 I've been talking with the maintainer[1] of xchat-xsys[2] for several
 bugs and many new upstream releases hold back on Debian, and he
 communicated me that he is not longer interested on maintaining it any
 more.

Tell him to orphan the package, then. Alternatively, but more
controversially, you might consider orphaning it yourself, and CC'ing
the maintainer. But that's controversial, and I wouldn't recommend it
unless you can back up your claims.

William


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Re: Intend to hijack xchat-xsys

2008-03-12 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:19:01PM -0200, UlisesVitulli wrote:

 I've been talking with the maintainer[1] of xchat-xsys[2] (...)
 Unfortunately, my suggestion of orphaning the pkg made no difference
 to the current maintainer, as he showed no cares at all for it.

If he showed no care at all for it, I would presume he would also be
OK with you adopting the package? You don't need him to orphan it
first, if he tells you (e.g. in an email), OK, it is yours, you can
make an upload changing maintainer to you, and it is not (socially) a
hijack.

If he actively vetoed you adopting the package, well, there's
something I don't understand, so I can't express an opinion.

-- 
Lionel


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Re: Intend to hijack xchat-xsys

2008-03-12 Thread Margarita Manterola
Hi all!

  I've been talking with the maintainer[1] of xchat-xsys[2] for several
  bugs and many new upstream releases hold back on Debian, and he
  communicated me that he is not longer interested on maintaining it any
  more.
  Unfortunately, my suggestion of orphaning the pkg made no difference
  to the current maintainer, as he showed no cares at all for it.

The maintainer stated that he's not using Debian anymore, and thus
doesn't want to bother orphaning the package.  Also he said that he is
ok with Ulises becoming the new maintainer.

Thus, THIS IS NOT A HIJACK.  This is an adoption without an O: bug,
which is actually quite a common practice when the old maintainer and
the new maintainer agree on this via IRC or some other medium.

There was no need to contact debian-devel about this.  I thought we
had already agreed on this.

-- 
Besos,
Marga


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