Re: Obsolete packages in Experimental

2006-01-26 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
apt-show-versions | grep /experimental

should work too, but I haven't tested it (no experimental packages
installed on this machine)


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Re: Obsolete packages in Experimental

2006-01-25 Thread Jérôme Warnier
Le vendredi 20 janvier 2006 à 14:17 +, Paul Brossier a écrit :
 On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 04:09:28AM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote:
  
  [Jérôme Warnier]
   Or even better: a list of all packages already installed on my system
   which have an experimental version?
  
  There might be a better way, but assuming you have experimental in your
  sources.list...
  
 
 aptitude search ~Aexperimental | grep ^i
Right, and if the second character on the line is a B, that means this
packages is already from experimental.
So you could filter the ones you could still upgrade with:
aptitude search ~Aexperimental | grep ^i|grep -v ^iB

Thanks
 ciao, piem



Re: Obsolete packages in Experimental

2006-01-25 Thread Jérôme Warnier
Le vendredi 20 janvier 2006 à 15:04 +0100, Michal Politowski a écrit :
 On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:34:11 +0100, Jérôme Warnier wrote:
 [...]
  BTW, is there a way to list all packages in experimental?
 
 aptitude search '~Aexperimental'
 
  Or even better: a list of all packages already installed on my system
  which have an experimental version?
 
 aptitude search '~i~Aexperimental'
 
 Also
 aptitude search '~S~i~Aexperimental'
 will find packages where the installed version is the one in experimental.

Thanks a lot



Re: Obsolete packages in Experimental

2006-01-25 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 04:25:52PM +0100, Jérôme Warnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
was heard to say:
 Le vendredi 20 janvier 2006 à 14:17 +, Paul Brossier a écrit :
  On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 04:09:28AM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote:
   
   [Jérôme Warnier]
Or even better: a list of all packages already installed on my system
which have an experimental version?
   
   There might be a better way, but assuming you have experimental in your
   sources.list...
   
  
  aptitude search ~Aexperimental | grep ^i
 Right, and if the second character on the line is a B, that means this
 packages is already from experimental.
 So you could filter the ones you could still upgrade with:
 aptitude search ~Aexperimental | grep ^i|grep -v ^iB

  Err, the B means that the package is currently in a broken state.  That
might be strongly correlated with being experimental, but there's no
guarantee in either direction ;-).

  To get a list of currently installed experimental packages, install
aptitude = 0.4.0 and do:

aptitude search '~S~i~Aexperimental'.

  Daniel


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Re: Obsolete packages in Experimental

2006-01-20 Thread Jérôme Warnier
Le jeudi 19 janvier 2006 à 16:38 +, Adam D. Barratt a écrit :
 On Thursday, January 19, 2006 11:35 AM, Jérôme Warnier
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  After the last update of OOo in Sid (aka Unstable), I wonder if it is
  generally considered acceptable to keep obsolete packages in
  experimental (currently, Sid has 2.0.1-2 and Experimental 2.0.1-1).
 
 Further to other answers, in this particular case you were about six and a
 half hours out of date ;-)
You were right. It is out of experimental now.

BTW, is there a way to list all packages in experimental?
Or even better: a list of all packages already installed on my system
which have an experimental version?
I would like to see which ones are available.


 =
 [Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:06:31 -0800] [ftpmaster: Ryan Murray]
 Removed the following packages from experimental:
 [...]
 openoffice.org |2.0.1-1 | source, i386, powerpc, sparc
 openoffice.org-base |2.0.1-1 | i386, powerpc, sparc
 [...]
 openoffice.org-writer |2.0.1-1 | i386, powerpc, sparc
 [...]
 --- Reason ---
 [rene] NVIU
 --
 =
 
 (i.e. rene, the archive cruft remover flagged the experimental packages
 for removal as there was a newer version in unstable).
 
 Cheers,
 
 Adam



Re: Obsolete packages in Experimental

2006-01-20 Thread Peter Samuelson

[Jérôme Warnier]
 Or even better: a list of all packages already installed on my system
 which have an experimental version?

There might be a better way, but assuming you have experimental in your
sources.list...

  t=$(tempfile);
  awk  $t '/^Package:/{print ^ $2 $}' \
/var/lib/apt/lists/*_dists_experimental_main_binary-*_Packages
  dpkg --get-selections | awk '/\tinstall$/{print $1}' | grep -f $t
  rm $t

This relies on package names being regex-friendly.  (I think the only
regex character they can have is ., which causes few problems.)


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Re: Obsolete packages in Experimental

2006-01-20 Thread Michal Politowski
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:34:11 +0100, Jérôme Warnier wrote:
[...]
 BTW, is there a way to list all packages in experimental?

aptitude search '~Aexperimental'

 Or even better: a list of all packages already installed on my system
 which have an experimental version?

aptitude search '~i~Aexperimental'

Also
aptitude search '~S~i~Aexperimental'
will find packages where the installed version is the one in experimental.

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Re: Obsolete packages in Experimental

2006-01-20 Thread Paul Brossier
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 04:09:28AM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote:
 
 [Jérôme Warnier]
  Or even better: a list of all packages already installed on my system
  which have an experimental version?
 
 There might be a better way, but assuming you have experimental in your
 sources.list...
 

aptitude search ~Aexperimental | grep ^i

ciao, piem


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Re: Obsolete packages in Experimental

2006-01-19 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 12:35:45PM +0100, Jérôme Warnier wrote:
 After the last update of OOo in Sid (aka Unstable), I wonder if it is
 generally considered acceptable to keep obsolete packages in
 experimental (currently, Sid has 2.0.1-2 and Experimental 2.0.1-1).
 
 If not, is there a way to remove packages from Experimental?

If the (source) packages have the same names as the packages in
unstable they will get removed semi-automatically by the ftp-masters
so just wait for it.
If they have different names, I think a bug report against
ftp.debian.org is needed.

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Re: Obsolete packages in Experimental

2006-01-19 Thread Peter Samuelson

[Jérôme Warnier]
 After the last update of OOo in Sid (aka Unstable), I wonder if it is
 generally considered acceptable to keep obsolete packages in
 experimental (currently, Sid has 2.0.1-2 and Experimental 2.0.1-1).

Hmmm, I thought experimental was garbage-collected automatically in
this case.


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Re: Obsolete packages in Experimental

2006-01-19 Thread Jérôme Warnier
Le jeudi 19 janvier 2006 à 12:43 +0100, Frank Lichtenheld a écrit :
 On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 12:35:45PM +0100, Jérôme Warnier wrote:
  After the last update of OOo in Sid (aka Unstable), I wonder if it is
  generally considered acceptable to keep obsolete packages in
  experimental (currently, Sid has 2.0.1-2 and Experimental 2.0.1-1).
  
  If not, is there a way to remove packages from Experimental?
 
 If the (source) packages have the same names as the packages in
 unstable they will get removed semi-automatically by the ftp-masters
 so just wait for it.
They have the same name. I guess it will be removed soon then.

 If they have different names, I think a bug report against
 ftp.debian.org is needed.

Thanks



Re: Obsolete packages in Experimental

2006-01-19 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Thursday, January 19, 2006 11:35 AM, Jérôme Warnier
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 After the last update of OOo in Sid (aka Unstable), I wonder if it is
 generally considered acceptable to keep obsolete packages in
 experimental (currently, Sid has 2.0.1-2 and Experimental 2.0.1-1).

Further to other answers, in this particular case you were about six and a
half hours out of date ;-)

=
[Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:06:31 -0800] [ftpmaster: Ryan Murray]
Removed the following packages from experimental:
[...]
openoffice.org |2.0.1-1 | source, i386, powerpc, sparc
openoffice.org-base |2.0.1-1 | i386, powerpc, sparc
[...]
openoffice.org-writer |2.0.1-1 | i386, powerpc, sparc
[...]
--- Reason ---
[rene] NVIU
--
=

(i.e. rene, the archive cruft remover flagged the experimental packages
for removal as there was a newer version in unstable).

Cheers,

Adam


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Re: Obsolete packages

2000-04-03 Thread Petr Cech
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 09:41:29AM +0200 , Michael Meskes wrote:
 After upgrading my machine I found some obsolete packages. Before purging
 them I'd like to know if there are replacements:
 lde

yes. it had RC, and it is still in mess due to some strange gcc header
interactions :(

 manpages-net

this package appeared only for a short time (and yes, I have it installed
too). I think it was in Incoming only.

 gtkbrowser

woody

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Re: Obsolete packages

2000-04-03 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 10:08:13AM +0200, Petr Cech wrote:
  manpages-net
 
 this package appeared only for a short time (and yes, I have it installed
 too). I think it was in Incoming only.

How about re-creating it?

Michael
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Re: Obsolete packages

2000-04-01 Thread Michael Meskes
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 01:57:25PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
 Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote a free reimplementation of this,
 gnuhtml2latex, so html2latex was removed.

Got this too. Thanks.

 These both still seem to be in woody.

So maybe they had release critical bugs. I cannot check that right now.

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Re: Obsolete packages

2000-04-01 Thread Michael Meskes
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 02:25:16PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
 # apt-get install intlfonts-european
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 Package intlfonts-european has no available version, but exists in the 
 database.
 This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
 never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents
 of sources.list
 However the following packages replace it:
   xfonts-intl-european

Thanks. Got this.

Michael

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Re: Obsolete packages

2000-04-01 Thread Michael Meskes
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 08:15:22AM -0500, Michael Alan Dorman wrote:
  eaudio
 
 Um, xmms I think.

Since xmms does not mention eaudio anywhere in its control file I though
these two programs were completely different. 

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Re: Obsolete packages

2000-04-01 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 08:15:22AM -0500, Michael Alan Dorman wrote:
   eaudio
  Um, xmms I think.
 Since xmms does not mention eaudio anywhere in its control file I though
 these two programs were completely different. 

Well, the author of eaudio dropped eaudio in favor of working on xmms,
so, yes, they're completely different, but, no, xmms is the official
successor to eaudio in the original authors eyes..

Mike.



Re: Obsolete packages

2000-03-31 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 09:41:29AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote:
 intlfonts-european

# apt-get install intlfonts-european
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Package intlfonts-european has no available version, but exists in the database.
This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents
of sources.list
However the following packages replace it:
  xfonts-intl-european
E: Package intlfonts-european has no installation candidate
#

There you go :)

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Re: Obsolete packages

2000-03-31 Thread Colin Watson
Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
After upgrading my machine I found some obsolete packages. Before purging
them I'd like to know if there are replacements:

html2latex

Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote a free reimplementation of this,
gnuhtml2latex, so html2latex was removed.

lde

gtkbrowser

These both still seem to be in woody.

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Re: Obsolete packages

2000-03-31 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 html2latex

tetex, perhaps?

 eaudio

Um, xmms I think.

 gtkbrowser

Hmmm.  No idea.

Mike.